

[00:02:24] hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti welcome to meme rates no welcome to Sunday slapping welcome to whoop review Sunday we're going to review just a whole bunch of different tiny whoops
[00:02:43] many of them stored quite nicely in these very cool little cases that tiny sells that I really really dig okay didn't need to get this one out I I guess all the all the 75s are sitting here on the on the bench I didn't expect that there was like a moment of panic of like oh God someone stole someone stole all the 75mm
[00:03:11] rigs I guess if somebody's going to steal a bunch of rigs I'd rather themel steal all the 75s not really though I've I've fallen in love with a bunch of these 75mm rigs somebody asked me the other day to do a whoop Fleet review I did one few months ago 2 3 4 months ago
[00:03:30] but a bunch of stuff has changed and it's a really good thing to kind of do it's like when I started thinking about it I realized that is one of the more valuable things that I can do for you guys because it gives me the chance to kind
[00:03:48] of talk about the strong suit of 40,000 KV Motors 32,000 KV Motors 28,000 KV Motors lightweight rigs heavyweight rigs right it's really I I I try not to have builds that are like show Queens basically like like just they
[00:04:08] sit on the so show Queens or Dino Queens in the car world show Queens are cars that you don't drive you you trailer them to a show they're super clean Super well restored whatever but you don't actually use them say
[00:04:30] I mean you are using them it's a show car and you're bringing it to shows so you are using it but you're not like using it like a car should be used right which is as a car which is something to drive around and then like Dino Queens are like Mega horsepower builds
[00:04:49] that you trailer to the dyo and then they lay down, 1500 horsepower and then you put it back on the trailer and take it back home and then wait until the next Dino day and so I don't have any builds that are I I have builds that are top to bottom meant to be flown for a specific use and
[00:05:09] you guys can potentially learn a bunch from that because I've spent a lot of time dialing in each one of these builds and so a fleet review every three or four months is probably a really good thing and again it gives us a chance to talk about some of the progress that's been made right the one
[00:05:27] that I did three or four months ago we weren't as dialed in on 75mm builds so we can kind of talk a little bit more about that so it'll be fun crom was first and the chat Striker was next schneer FPV after that apparently Teddy has learned to use the computer because on Teddy's one-year
[00:05:49] adopt adoption anniversary the other day few days ago I very so all right story time when when we first got Teddy he was super timid he was super scared and he wouldn't like jump up on the couch he wouldn't play with us
[00:06:10] he was he was just scared of the world I don't know what his previous owners did to him but they were not very nice it didn't seem like and for when when we just we couldn't get them to play when we first got him home or or relax or anything so we're looking
[00:06:28] around for different stuff to kind of play with them we gave him a bunch of toys didn't nothing I grabbed a sweaty old I don't know why it would be sweaty but tennis ball from the garage and just dropped it on the floor towards him and he ah and he freaked out and it was like his favorite toys running around with it and so
[00:06:47] tennis ball or just ball as we call it around here was like his number one toy but like he fell so in love with it that like it was too much like Teddy doesn't have an off switch or he doesn't even have a he doesn't have a dimmer switch he doesn't have an off switch
[00:07:06] he's either awake and a complete chaos Gremlin of Doom or he's asleep and is the best but when he's awake and has tennis ball It's Like Cocaine bear dog he's just nuts and whole whole stuff it under like shelving units and that he
[00:07:33] can't get at it and then he'll freak out and he'll just and he'll just scream it's a specific scream that that we can hear that we know he's lost his ball under something and it doesn't stop and he just sits there freaking out until
[00:07:55] somebody comes and gets it and he'll do this for hours like like and he'll do it upstairs and I'll have to walk up and the down the stairs two 300 times and so it's just insane So eventually we had to take ball away and
[00:08:13] I mistakenly gave it to him the other day on his adopted adoption anniversary and he just lost his mind again and freaked out and now we've had to take it back away from him and he's just he's just he walks around and looks up
[00:08:30] at stuff and sniffs and sniffs and he's just been completely insane for the past few days and he's so crazy actually that he's learned to use the computer and he's created a YouTube account called schneer FPV and now he's in the chat harassing me to you know
[00:08:49] hopefully get his ball back it's gone Teddy it's gone the ball is gone you couldn't control yourself and now I've had to take it away it's just in the garage wait no it's not it's it's
[00:09:10] outside on top of the tall table schneer FPV is not actually Teddy it's a real person but it's absolutely hysterical that there's someone in the chat called schneer FPV a day after I I took his ball away and he's just desperately been
[00:09:29] walking around the house I I originally put it on top of the the C the the 3X3 cax Cube that's over there and the could smell it and within 10 minutes he's at the base of the cube
[00:09:48] just so then I moved it outside and I put it in the wheelbarrow outside again within like being let outside twice he's at the wheelbarrow and then so now I've had to put it up on top of the table at some point I'm just going to I can't possibly get rid of it I can't get rid of it it's
[00:10:08] impossible but he's just insane Cloud Hopper Frank Nicholas Zoe 101 Dog with a Blog Troy pre-log fre lojo notice Cloud Hopper with a $5 Super Chat thank you brother he says check your email finally hit sub 17 65mm with 2G
[00:10:28] how the hell did you do that with 2g4 four when did you send the email my my email is an utter war zone if you guys email me don't expect a response for a week it's sucks in there I my email is is bad it's not a great way of getting in with
[00:10:59] me unfortunately Instagram is the best I get the least spam on Instagram holy I'm going to try to not show your email address but that's some pretty serious lightning so this is the old school Mobula 6 canopy really lightweight eyes I've I've I I forgot to show this on the
[00:11:24] on Friday's stream but I've got a Mobula 6 canopy I saw somebody do this I'll show you in a minute I saw somebody do this a long time ago and then I kind of forgot to do it and then Cloud Hopper sent me a picture of his Mobula 6 canopy that he shaved that I showed previously a little bit of material off of but now he's gone
[00:11:42] completely off the deep end and really lightened it up so he's got the super light antenna oh and he's doing the the very cool V setup with the antenna I'm far too lazy for this but this is very very very cool damn light AF
[00:12:01] canopy 702 28,000 I'm shocked that this is under that this is under 17 GS I wouldn't think that with the heavy ass 2g4 you'd be able to do it there must be a lot of weight removed from this canopy very cool this is a super light antenna too this is like A2 G antenna
[00:12:29] that's obviously going to help quite a bit good work dude very cool a 2g4 build under 17 Gams is the dream because the 2g4 is actually like reliable and durable and doesn't have weird random jellow in the middle of the
[00:12:47] in the middle of the throttle dude good work very cool very very cool if you want to talk directly to me in the chat all you got to do is type CiottiFPV you got to spell it right don't put any spaces in there if you want to
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[00:15:13] without even thinking about it do it it'll take like 10 minutes of your time do it now do it now massive shout out again to Mac W5 RTM old guy with sorry old guy and a drone he's getting out of FPV for the
[00:15:32] time being and sent me a whole shitload of really really really cool stuff some of which I'm going to be doing testing on so you're going to see me down here with the with the tweezers and with the screwdriver kind of screwing around cuz I'm moving some of these parts around taking some stuff off so
[00:15:49] that I can do some thrust testing with it so don't be don't be weirded out by me like looking down a whole bunch I'm just trying to do three things at once trying to answer questions live stream and take apart at once because welcome to being Your Own Boss
[00:16:10] my friends you you get to always do more than one thing but you don't have a boss so it's worth it is it's is sometimes it is it's the most timec consuming thing you'll ever do but if it's with something that you love it's fun you just have to you got to be careful because it's really easy to start to
[00:16:35] like need right that's the trick that your brain plays on you need to do stuff like this when like you're sitting on the couch watching TV with the family and you're supposed to be actually present watching TV with the family as opposed to half watching TV
[00:16:55] with the family half trying to dig the godamn plug out of the AO for the 7,000th time but you can make it work you can do we can do hard things friends we can do hard things wow these plugs are on here what I'm digging at right now these are iflight BNF's it looks
[00:17:18] like and they've got 0803 19,000 KV Motors on 1S oh the things that are wrong with that 803 is way too big of a motor for a 1.2 in prop 19,000 KV is way too low of a KV for a 1.2 in prop but 0803 19,000 KV on 2S is going to be
[00:17:53] fire on the 2sx S I guess I should probably not scream scream the word fire in a house full of [Laughter] people as I was screaming it I was like wait no don't do that do that the only thing that could have
[00:18:35] possibly made that funnier is if like as soon as I did that I heard like stomp stomp stomp stom stomp of everybody like running out of the house oh but I live with people that know what an absolute lunatic that I am so nobody even responded at
[00:18:57] all ah ah what's going to suck though I'm going to put these 8031 19000s on eventually when BetaFPV eventually ships my order that I placed like a week and a half to two weeks ago when they finally ship that
[00:19:14] order and eventually it gets here with the replacement 2S AIO I'm going to put that WalkSnail 2S build back together and these motors are going to probably be incredible and then I'm going to crash
[00:19:32] it a couple times and the motor shafts are going to bend like a because it's a heavy rig with a 1 mm motor shaft and then I'm going to be like twice as sad as ever before because it's going to I'm going to realize look I've tried these motors before
[00:19:51] actually I tried these so these are Zing 0803 19000s and I tried them ages ago on the tiny lifter builds and I loved them but then I like bumped the build into the railing on at the time I was living at the in the apartment in alfaretta and the motor shafts Bend I didn't even crashed the
[00:20:15] rig I like bumped the rig into the railing and recovered and it bent one of the motor shafts and then I crashed it from like 3 ft and it really bent one of the motor shafts and then I took those Motors off and never put them back on because they were impossibly fragile
[00:20:34] but what I will say is that the tiny lifters are some fat ass so maybe on these WalkSnail builds they'll be at least a little bit more durable and also back then we didn't have a lot of the motors that we do now
[00:20:53] so it'll be interesting to compare them to like the t-motor 102 19,000 or 18,000 whatever the hell they are and the 802 25,000 that I currently have on it and there's some other Motors that I'm going to be testing on it as well so that'll be pretty cool I'm looking forward to
[00:21:13] that I'm taking these motors off of here I'm actually going to keep a set of these motors there's a set of flywoo 102 23,500 on one of these that are the purple and gold I if you're looking for the flywoo 102 23 no
[00:21:35] these are the WASP I have a set of the WASP major motors for sale as well 22.6 x 6.5 it's basically a 2306 not really but sort of awesome Motors big Power I have a set of the black flywoo Robo 102 23,500 for sale they
[00:21:54] perform like 102 22,000 there's nothing wrong with them but you don't get the extra power that you would think from the the higher KV to reiterate what we talked about on last live stream my testing that I did last week on the spreadsheet live streams and Chris
[00:22:12] roster's testing that he just did of a ton of tiny whoop Motors has shown us that the KVs are just absolutely all over the place oh I forgot to show you this so when when you look at tiny whoop Motors and they have a KV stamped on them pretend they don't and just throw a dart at a dart board and
[00:22:30] whatever the number is there's probably a better chance it'll be that KV than anything else happy models KV numbers are way wrong the the number stamped on the Bell is like between 2 and 6,000 KV higher than the motors actually
[00:22:50] are the other manufactures aren't as bad although t-motor is pretty bad too t-motor and HappyModel are the worst offenders t-motor has a motor that's like almost 10,000 KV off which is that's grounds for a Beatdown but here's what you can do to really
[00:23:09] lightweight your Mobula 6 canopy that I saw forever ago and forgot to show you guys well I forgot to do it which is why I forgot to show you guys but you can just basically cut the ass off of it you guys saw what cloud Hopper did a minute ago which is to just absolutely eviscerate the damn thing if you want
[00:23:27] to be a little bit safe than that I think this is the safest way to lightweight a Mobula 6 ball sack canopy and still have it be nice and strong I'm going to be trying this out I'm going to put this on to one of the 65mm Rigs and give it a shot so more info to come this
[00:23:49] saves I forget I'll tell you right now so the entire canopy is well there's also a little support piece that I don't have in here but just the canopy itself is 74 and then cutting its ass off which is this piece here brings it down to
[00:24:15] 057 so there you go it's not nothing and as long as it's durable like this to some extent like why not do this my main reason for why not do this is that you lose these holes holes and I use those holes
[00:24:32] for my antennas I stick my antennas out of those holes and it's really really nice so this is going to be interesting I don't know what antenna I'm going to put with that guy but I'll do it one of these days and you'll get to see
[00:24:53] it and then you can call me a I don't know where I'm going with that you can call me donkey there we go right I'm GNA now throw this away I only kept it to show you and now I've shown you all right in
[00:25:18] the chat Scher FPV says if if Teddy's flying is as bad as mine you might want to duck LOL crom says meme rates Plus Horizon mode for Less crashing does horizon mode use rates or does it use if it does then that would be the that would be the jam who's who's who did the meme rates
[00:25:43] I told you guys on the last stream some I I I said go do the meme rates now and nobody listened but surely after the live stream someone did meme rates here's what meme rates are you go to BetaFlight you go to rate profile three because you're not going to want this to be your main R rate profile but save
[00:26:04] this as rate profile 3 because it's hysterical and you never use rate profile 3 so turn on rate profile 3 go to actual rates if it's not already and for your Center sensitivity do 100 for your maximum rotation do 2,000 that's the Max and then for your Expo do
[00:26:24] 1.0 that's the Max and then go outside and do it with goggles on first I guess and you'll laugh but then where you'll really laugh is when you take your goggles off you line of sight that right in front of you you you blip you blip the throttle and then you Hammer roll you will not
[00:26:45] believe what you see and hear it is amazing so go do it go do M meme rates as a matter of fact put meme rates on rate profile three for every single rig you own and then next the next time that that somebody says Ah how fast does it go how high does it go say shut up
[00:27:05] stand there and watch this and then bring it back in and go to Your Meme rates and blip the throttle in front of yourself and do the thing and they'll go wow and then you go it's cool isn't it now get the out of here you little bastard don't do that don't be mean to
[00:27:24] children unless they deserve it don't be mean to Children you monster Jesus what's wrong with you I don't need this right sometimes it's hard to throw things away throw things away you lunatic there it is I threw something away a Pache smoke W CER says hello gangly gang how you all doing
[00:27:56] please say again thanks again to David Ciotti really appreciate what he did can't hang have a great stream Apache smoke wooden sniper and quad bot are the guys that have been doing all these time stamps on all the live stream so we owe them both our greatest thank yous and it's just amazing that they continue to do that my dad has been hanging
[00:28:16] out on the giveaway live streams and he sends a PayPal donation in for me to put the the time Stampers on the on the end of the giveaway and this last giveaway Apache smoke wounded sniper won that giveaway so he's got a bunch of really cool stuff coming to him well well well deserved and so that's why
[00:28:39] he's thanking my dad for that for anybody that's not there's your inside baseball for this for this live stream all right let me get caught up on chat here I am quite a bit behind soggy says do you recommend four blade props or two blade props for 30,000 KV Motors neither
[00:29:00] I recommend three blade props all of the four blade tiny whooop props are way too heavy most of the three blade tiny woop props are way too heavy there are two really good three-bladed tiny props though that pair really well with
[00:29:20] 30,000 KV Motors to be honest with you though there are only three tiny whoop props that you should be even remotely interested in because there are three tiny props that destroy all of the rest for the small ones for the 1.2 in props those are the geman 1210 by blades
[00:29:38] the geman 129s triblade and the HQ ultra light triblade these are the three newest props and I said they just destroy all the other propellers so next time you do an order from somewhere get two or three or four sets of all three of those propellers and you're good to go you'll they are different significantly
[00:30:03] different between the three of them test all three pick which ones you like the best away you go you'll have the best propeller for you there is no best propeller there is best propeller for each one of us it's kind of sort of but there's not really best of anything there's just different so there you
[00:30:21] go my friend vpro says I tried to flash a 2g4 of a friend's with 96 6K because he won't need better breaking anytime soon and it started overheating have you seen this before blue j.1 648 is fine I have not seen that I I've only run 96 once or twice because I don't like it but
[00:30:43] I've have not seen that or heard of that that's interesting if going back to 48 makes it stop doing that I would just run it on 48 it's there's not a big Improvement in efficiency or power going from 48 to 96 there is a big difference 24 to 48 so 48 makes the most
[00:31:02] sense because you get Best of Both Worlds you get almost as much breaking motor breaking as you do on 24 but then you get almost as much efficiency and power as you do on 96 Frank Nicholas says you'd scream too if you lost your balls Walter van Denard says I flight
[00:31:21] I light a candle for him too Colin Stapleton says just ordered parts for a new 75 m playground Ripper Mobula 7 frame super xv2 082 33,000 KB Motors that's a lot I would motor limit those down a little bit for the record pinch Cam and canopy now the two to
[00:31:41] three week wait for tiny whoop to ship across the pond it's nice that they actually are willing to ship overseas a lot of companies don't even do that anymore you will dig that definitely Moto limit those 802s down a little bit initially 33,000 KV it's really starting to look like
[00:32:00] 27,000 KV is about as high as you want to go on an 802 for 1.6 in props but getting the 33,000 KV Motors is actually a really good idea because then you can motor limit down of which there's little to no negative effects and then someday if you want to use those Motors on a 65 you can run them at 100% or if
[00:32:22] you just are super power hungry they the 33,000 KV will work on the the 1.6 inch prop it's just it's really it's putting a lot of stress on the AO but it will work and it will probably be fine pretty much forever but speaking of
[00:32:43] aios somebody commented on the most recent live stream or maybe the one before that and he saidyou should check out the hglrc Spectre AIO I've got seven of them running and I was like okay either one of two things is going
[00:33:02] on here either this person doesn't fly very much because if you've got seven different rigs how are you going to fly each one of them a lot so either either they only fly each one of those rigs One battery per month and that's why the hglrc product hasn't caught on
[00:33:20] fire yet or it's actually a decent aiio but then what he said next is what in inged me which is that he has it running on 2S on some of these Rigs and it does say here that it's 1 to 2S and it also says here that it's using 10 amp fets so I am in
[00:33:45] and we are going to this 533 2207 fund has kind of stalled and died so we are going to change this to the hglrc might not catch fire fund and let's see let's see what we do
[00:34:15] here so we're we're giving hgrc another chance man we're giving him another shot never say that I don't give people Second Chances because here here's the second chance of for hdlc to not catch on fire so HDC Spectre AIO 75
[00:34:37] bucks I'm intrigued man it's got a VTX on board it's got elrs on board f411 10 amp fets 1 to 2S what could be wrong what what could possibly go wrong the it's got motor plugs it's got the the ceramic antenna off on
[00:34:55] the side this is the rear here's the battery pads here on the side so this is the rear of the board and so this ceramic antenna is probably going to hit the the Mobil 6 canopy that I really like so I'll probably end up just removing the ceramic antenna and replace it with a piece of wire that's fine
[00:35:16] the UFL for the video antenna is kind of here in the middle which is fine this is a totally fine location for it I wish it was centered so that you could use a MC stinky canopy with it but how much can you if the aiio doesn't catch on fire
[00:35:34] that's a good start the the not having the UFL Port perfectly centered but it not catching on fire I'll take that any day of the week most tiny whooop AOS if you're somewhat new here are just just woeful pieces of human
[00:35:51] slime and so it's very hard it's been very hard for us to find any whoop aios that are even remotely worth a and this one I have admittedly not tried because many many many years ago I swore off hdlc
[00:36:11] products because they kept catching on fire and it wasn't just one and it wasn't just two and it wasn't just three eventually I I gave hdlr C stuff another shot and it let me down again and I said okay fool me once shame on you fool me
[00:36:31] twice don't get shamed again there's a quote from a movie that that I was just trying to do and I I think I butchered pretty good it's a does anybody know what movie that is and or what the quote is the they ends up saying I I Won't Get Fooled Again and then somebody's like you mean the song I think that's
[00:36:58] how it goes but hey screws up that saying he screws up the fool me once shame on me fool me twice Jame on you I don't know Screw you I'm not stupid I just have a worthless memory welcome to clinical depression it destroys your
[00:37:25] memory my memory is pretty good with certain things though so can't complain this is a this is another one of these speaking of memory loss this is another one of these HappyModel Mobula 7 V3 frames which is awesome in Gray so this is very cool I'm stealing this
[00:37:50] frame for the for the 2S WalkSnail builds thank you old guy in a drone he's got a bunch of these again speaking of aios he's got a bunch of these iflight aios in here which I'm going to try out as well we're we're
[00:38:11] going to we're going to have tried a bunch of tiny whoop aios recently not just the 2g4 and the X12 and the beta FP well we've tried a bunch we've tried most of them not these ey flights though not that hglrc so this this iflight AO
[00:38:30] I'm willing to bet is not the way that we want to go mainly because it's got pins it's got a the VTX pinned to the top of the aao and pinned components are something that has always been a bad idea in FPV and
[00:38:50] those those pins have pretty much always broken when you've started to crash the whatever that has that setup on it so I'm willing to bet that this this iflight AO is is not going to be a winner but we'll at least give it a shot and see it's worth a
[00:39:08] try oh this is a weird version of this Frame hold on let me show you something wait no it's not it's this is interesting hold on I gotta get this out of here to show you this this is this is set up
[00:39:32] very different than I'm used to what is it using a oh no okay never mind it's just sitting the wow that's really strange I don't know how to show you that but basically this was set up oh oh no I see never mind never mind never mind oh
[00:39:51] that's interesting no never mind oh wait no it's true oh this is weird hold on this is a this is a strange is this not the HappyModel frame it sure looks it's got something super weird about it though oh what oh no no what oh did
[00:40:22] he trim these down it what it looks like is that one of he trimmed them down okay okay never mind never mind it's totally normal he trimmed down one three of the four posts to make it work better with this AIO but the the
[00:40:40] the regular version of this frame has extra tall extra tall posts which are actually really nice for doing it as a WalkSnail build because you have to run double grommets and the double grommets really work well on these posts but this one has three of the posts trimmed down which
[00:41:00] won't work as well I'm still going to order another one damn it I still need to order another one of these V3 frames th this one will work though this one will work on a pinch it's just the top WalkSnail set of grommets will kind of float but that's the way it is on all the 65mm builds and I actually have not had a
[00:41:16] problem yet with that so we'll be all right it'll be fine very cool this is a nice little backup frame that I can use to bolt yet another set of Motors too because once I get the 2S walks snow rig back up in the air we're going to start testing a
[00:41:36] bunch of different Motors on 2S and I am very excited about that because there are certain Motors that I've been really interested in in the manufacturer or in the sizing of the motor but it's too low of a KV for 1
[00:41:56] s and that just completely disqualifies it unfortunately and so it's really good that that we've got some other options matter of fact I'm just going to bolt Motors directly up to this Frame I'm going to
[00:42:15] bolt a set of these 0803 o perfect the one problem with this Mobil 7 V3 frame for the 2S WalkSnail build is that the the basically this Frame was designed for a 3mm tall motor if you put a 2mm tall motor like an 802 or a 102 on this the propellers run really low in
[00:42:43] the duct and the propellers actually hit these duct standoffs just barely and just during Turtle mode but it's still kind of a pain in the ass there are motorizer that BetaFPV sends with all of their air 65 frames now that you can use but you're bolting extra weight on like
[00:43:04] where the motors are which is the worst possible place to bolt extra weight so that sucks but one of the motors I really want to test on that 2S rig are these 083s so I'm going to take them off and bolt them directly on here and then this Frame will be ready to go for 082 testing I wish I hadn't just removed
[00:43:23] all the goddamn screws from this Frame that was stupid thing to do Colin steton oh no we got that you're going to dig that build Colin that's gonna absolutely rail Cloud Hopper says is there a second email there is a second email
[00:43:43] that got to 16.9 gram the clear canopy is even lighter that's weird did you dig more plastic out of it or is just the clear plastic lighter that's weird B says think you broke some headphones and eardrums with that screen did I I tried to scream straight up so that it wouldn't be that loud sorry guys sorry headphone wearers
[00:44:03] parkour guy says open the stream up to you yelling fire and my car speakers were up all the way sorry dude bad says as someone who travels around training Fire Marshals I know shouting fire often does nothing other than people look at you and go oh what a strange person oh
[00:44:23] no I can totally see that though I can totally see Society not responding to someone screaming fire that's that is American that is the Legacy that we will leave the world here in America people crying wolf parkour parkour guy says I did the meme rates and it's just incredible
[00:44:49] line of sight and yes Horizon mode uses rates confirmed awesome very cool so put those put the meme rates on and then use Horizon mode because try as you saw in the intro of this video trying to find level after you've spun at 2,000 degrees per second is like
[00:45:08] pretty impossible so you're going to want you're going to want to use put hor you should already have Horizon mode on a switch as your oh my God I lost video as your response to oh my God I lost a video it's a
[00:45:24] it's a really nice hack for not losing a quad you push too far like for example you fly behind like a shed that's like a half a mile out and you lose complete video you can flip the switch Horizon mode turns on it levels it out and you blip the throttle and that'll blip it up hopefully above
[00:45:45] whatever thing has blocked your video signal and so it's just really really nice to have like an oh switch that you can flip rather than just immediately disarming In fairness it is the safest to just disarm it in that scenario and take the walk but not always like if you're in
[00:46:06] that scenario and you're flying above people it is not the safest to automatically disarm it's is the safest to flip the switch and have Horizon mode level itself out and maybe jump up and get signal back rather than dropping a drone on someone's head so I would I would much rather and it's
[00:46:28] not like you're not the idea is not to flip it into Horizon mode and Go full throttle and leave it for five seconds it's to blip the throttle to try to get video back real quick before you then eventually disarm it if you don't get video back but and that that's what makes it safe you
[00:46:47] know absolute worst case scenario you lose video and it flips upside down you're blipping the throttle into the crowd rather than hammering the throttle into the crowd right but I mean you should not be in a scen like you should
[00:47:04] always be in a scenario where if you're flying over people for the record you should always be upright it's really not a great idea to go inverted over people just just in general right just from like a let's plan for the worst kind of thing which you should be doing at all times when flying these
[00:47:24] things cuz you can hurt someone so get your make sure your brain is firmly planted in risk management mode when you're flying these things above people and just and look like if you're flying above people the
[00:47:42] footage is going to be awesome and so you don't need to make it more awesome by being inverted stay right side up and just enjoy a situation that not many people have gotten to do right it's not very common that we can put a camera at 20 30
[00:48:03] 40 80 100 miles an hour above a crowd of people so let that do the heavy lifting don't go bananas flying like your pants are on fire trying to make it even more crazy because you'll just hurt somebody or to be honest it can kind of take away from it like being right side up in a
[00:48:22] steady cruise over a large group of people like good to go that that is awesome that if if you then start flipping and flopping around to some extent you can't even tell that you're above people why would you do that don't do that these motors are held in by little tiny M
[00:48:48] 1.3 socket headed screws which I have exactly 1.9 sets of I have one full set and then I have a second not full set there are one too few which is infuriating beyond the bounds of
[00:49:11] rational thought now I think I know where those screws came from I guess they came with these I flate murders and maybe just maybe there is one extra in this little bag that I just hesitated to throw away
[00:49:37] but then went n throw it away you idiot no there's not there's not an extra one in there I wonder where these come from they I I'm intrigued by them but they are super annoying because who the hell carries around an M 1.3 driver with them so they're actually really not a good idea but they're cool looking it's
[00:49:56] cool looking to have little socket headed screws holding your tiny whoop Motors on rather than stupid little Phillips head screws but I I my 1.9 sets of these just sit in a box I do not use them what is that on
[00:50:14] the side of the motor oh it's a little chip in the powder coating that's interesting see parkour guys is enjoying meme rates why aren't you o RF FPV says will you have a live stream about pit tuning absolutely not I just saw your last was two years
[00:50:39] ago there's really not much of a reason to pit tune anymore the the stock pit tune is really really good and I talk about pit tuning every other live stream at this point because it is is so easy to do now the absolute easy button for pit tuning is to just take
[00:51:03] the master multiplier slider and move it up if you want a more aggressive pit tune you move it up until the point where the motors get hot or the motors start making funny noises or the rig tries to fly away on its own and then you back it off a little bit and that's it that's really legitimately all you need to know about tuning if you want
[00:51:23] to be a total nerd like a bunch of us sure you can learn a little bit more about tuning but it's a waste of time I hate to admit's but it is a waste of time the way that we should all be tuning is to just take the master multiplier and move it up and down because doing that get you a tune that is 95% of the way there why the hell we
[00:51:49] continue to pour our time to get the extra into getting the extra 5% is completely and utterly Beyond me it really doesn't make sense you will have more fun and get much better as a pilot just using the master multiplier and
[00:52:08] focusing on flying and for most people that's where the fun is there are those of us that are I guess masochistic maybe that have to push it even farther and if that's you I've got step
[00:52:28] two for you which will take you from 95% perfect to like 98% perfect forget the master multiplier and grab the degain slider the very first slider and start moving that up move that from 1.0 to 1.2 fly it make sure the motors aren't too hot make sure it's not making funny
[00:52:46] noises trying to fly away on its own then move it up to 1.4 and take the second slider and move that up to 1.1 second slider is the P Andi gain slider fly it make sure it's not up come back if you need more pit gain move them both up by point two
[00:53:05] you've now got a little ratio going on they those top two sliders were here you move the the top one to 1.2 and then you did this with them 1.4 1.1 and now you just maintain that ratio and you just keep moving that ratio up
[00:53:23] higher and higher and higher until it starts making funny noises or the motors get too and then you back it off and that's it that is a 98% perfect pit tune if you have electronic components that are garbage or a build that is garbage or you're building something
[00:53:41] like wacky like a 10 in or a 12 in or like something that BetaFlight was kind of not designed to be used with which is pretty rare because BetaFlight was really designed to be used with everything quad related but sometimes you do have builds that are jacked
[00:53:58] up or totally weird then you might you might need to use pit tuning but if you've got a rig that's on shitty equipment fix the shitty equipment the amount of time and effort that you will spend trying to get a rig to fly right with shitty equipment
[00:54:18] pales in comparison to getting half decent equipment and the tune that you will end up with at the end of the day after spending all that time and all that effort will still suck yes the rig will be flyable but the tune will suck shitty Electronics shitty build quality
[00:54:37] shittily designed frames stuff you can put lipstick on those pigs all you want it's still a pig at the end of the day getting decent quality frames Motors and electronics are the way for sure so
[00:54:55] that's what we talk most about because that's how to get a rig that actually flies good diving deep into tuning is not the way to get a rig that flies as good as diving deep into Electronics the mechanical system basically right we're talking about Hardware versus software
[00:55:15] and most people have the hardware wrong good Hardware with dead stock software flies amazing and so that is the the the main emphasis here there is really no reason to dive super deep into pit tuning and to be honest I've lost track of a lot of the newer developments in
[00:55:41] pit tuning although it's a p a pit controller is a pit controller but still I haven't paid much attention because it's just not the the it's not the way it's not the way to get a good flying rig in 2024 anymore is it still does it still have
[00:55:59] value absolutely but it but look UAV Tech Brandon's baked beans Chris Rosser these guys put enough information out into the world for us to know plenty more than we need to about pit tuning so that's kind of the deal
[00:56:20] there but if you have any pit tuning specific questions by all means I stream for 10 hours a week every week come on in ask them tag me ask the questions and we'll talk about them that's that is the beauty of long form content is that we can have those actual conversations to get to the bottom of stuff rather
[00:56:42] than cramming one tenth of the necessary information into a two-minute long video or a one minute long short and then sending it out for a million people to look at and get half the story and hurt someone or hurt themselves or blow a bunch of up because you know
[00:56:59] that is the beauty of short form content is that you get just enough information to think that something but you don't actually know anything and that is how this hobby will
[00:57:16] die short form content will kill us all Walter says you're the best Stay Gold will thank you brother Kevin James says hello brand Anderson says haven't done meme rates yet but did but did up my indoor rates and can now power roll
[00:57:36] nice if you guys haven't with your rates in a while do it's good it's every once in a while you want to go in there and move them around see if you still like where they're at trer says just got some 802 25,000 for 1.6 was thinking on those 33s but I realized I'm probably upgrading to 102s when someone makes a high KB KV or VCI very
[00:57:56] cool Freer says my cat is catatonic on my lap I miss that man I I miss cats falling asleep on top of you and just being like a bag of liquid strer says is that Spectre HDC AO if it works I'm going to need a few for 75
[00:58:16] those are incredible 10 amp fet seam appetizing I forgot to mention here's the only problem with this AIO that's oh oh oh there it is that's the only problem with this aiio that's a bit much but if it works and it doesn't catch on fire it's got
[00:58:42] 10 amp fets I don't think the X12 is available anymore right HappyModel X12 somebody was telling me that the X12 is no longer being made well that person is dead ass wrong okay so the X12 is still out there I
[00:59:00] don't know man my first X12 did not last very long only a couple batteries eventually I got another one which has lasted a bunch of batteries but it is dying the the motor 3 fets are dying so I don't know about the x12s they've never and here's the big problem the X12 is an oversized
[00:59:20] AO and it only fits in the Mobula 7 V4 frame so even if it was a durable flight controller having only one frame option sucks a big bag of donkey dicks so if this Spectre is good it is definitely not oversized
[00:59:42] right we can see the sides actually come in a little bit so it might even be like UND sized enough to run on this stupid medeor 65 and 75 Pro frames oh no no just the 65 Pro frame they need to be undersized well I actually don't remember but whatever it's definitely not I'm not going to say
[00:59:42] definitely it doesn't appear to be oversized in the same way that the X12 is that's what I'll say that's what I have to say in order to not say the wrong thing without knowing it got me but 75 bucks is is a bit much but 10 amp 10 amp fetsone
[00:59:42] to 2S let's get one and test it maybe kilo zebra says You Won't Get Fooled Again quote wasn't a movie it [Laughter] was oh you're right oh God you're right oh my God you're right
[00:59:42] it wasn't a movie it was real life it was real life and it was someone that we elected to run the goddamn country oh man we are some dumb in this country are we not oh we are so dumb in this country that we elected that person and then we
[00:59:42] elected someone not only Dumber but that is orange and a Nazi we really we we deserve we deserve everything bad that that has come our way because we keep doing this we keep doing this it needs to stop my friends it needs to
[00:59:42] stop oh boy we can't keep doing this we cannot keep doing this we literally will not survive okay oh my God you're right it was George Bush oh my God oh my God oh my God our lives are a
[00:59:42] bad comedy are like oh wow two people two people caught that oh boy that is brutal Walter says I cry when lie to me but not because you lied to me because I I cannot thrust you for live live what the hell does that mean ster says Walter paus who's
[00:59:42] thrusting who quad bod's in the house he says Teddy being chaotic surely all you have to do is plug him into USB and back off his pids a bit oh how I wish that dog had a PID a pit controller C says I did shave just a bit more off the clear ball sack and I
[00:59:42] swapped the battery wires to the lighter blue and white BetaFPV wires gotch you Urban beekeeper that's a great YouTube name right there I can't put my elbow down because I got all over the desk says I saw your awesome R34 stream got me thinking that it'd be sweet if there was a game in Sim that had both cars and drones at the same
[00:59:42] time Urban I'm about to blow your nipples clean off search you YouTube for aceto Corsa FPV mod and you will find that there is there's a FPV mod for accetto Corsa that will allow you to join other people's rooms and Chase the
[00:59:42] around this is the one of the very few things this is one of the very few moments where I actually regret not having a PC it doesn't happen often but it has happened in the past once or twice but there's this also in veloca drone you can buy a a
[00:59:42] little thing that there's some like fake drift cars that go around the track it's not great they don't really accelerate and decelerate in the the the right locations that a real drift car would but it's fun it's very fun actually so veloc drone or that
[00:59:42] accetto Corsa mod will work I think you'll have to buy accetto Corsa though and if you're not a motorsport person that might be a little that might not make much sense but that ACC setup I I I'm going to try to so the the place that I chase the RC drift cars
[00:59:42] at is called torque Motorsports and it's actually a Sim place like the the RC drifting is just because they have extra space but the the place stays in business by having a bunch of sim rigs with accetto Corsa on them and people come in and pay to use the Sim
[00:59:42] Rigs and they are moving they're doing so well that they're getting a bigger spot and when they move I'm going to talk to the owners about getting that ACC mod set up with like a big screen so that I can
[00:59:42] go there and jump on the big screen and Chase the guys that are currently in there drifting so that their friends can like watch along and it'll be very fun for me and it'll just be like a really cool thing so that that's something that that I'm going to talk to them about at some point because
[00:59:42] they've got a bunch of big ass TVs on the walls just looping unfortunately all those t TVs are broken at the moment cuz usually what I do is hook up my goggles to HDMI going into those big TVs and I display my analog Endor WalkSnail feed on those big ass
[00:59:42] screens which is really cool but those those three sets of screen one by one those those sets of TVs have stopped working and right now all three of them are not working I guess they're not fixing them because they're moving tro prog says curious why Horizon mode and not angle mode on the saf switch
[00:59:42] angle mode does not use your rates and angle mode does not let you invert so I had it set up with angle mode for a while when I would accidentally have angle mode on I would take off I would blip the throttle I would go to do a roll angle mode would set me to the
[00:59:42] would go to the Le the maximum angle level that it has set say that's 45 degrees and my brain would go and I would sometimes end up crashing because I was just so confused that I expected it to do a full roll and it like hung up here all weird likee
[00:59:42] when I switched it over to Horizon mode my brain stopped taking a in those moments and it would do a full roll but also Horizon mode uses your rates so two two reasons there hush Los says have you or anyone tried using Square wires for winding
[00:59:42] Motors I haven't even heard of the square wires I've I've seen it used on high-fi speaker coils less air gap I've never and will never handwind a motor interesting here's my guess my guess is that they don't make Square wires thin enough and or single
[00:59:42] strand I think the I think the windings have to be single strand and wire if they make Square wires single strand I bet you they don't make them thin enough the the winding material for these little tiny Motors has to be ultra Ultra ultra
[00:59:42] thin Earth Walker says I think I remember you saying you don't like bumping feed forward up correct have you found negative to it or just haven't found it necessary the negatives are that it makes your flight footage look very Jitter because your fingers are are kind of
[00:59:42] jittery and so high feed forward feels great when you fly it's feels awesome because the quad tracks your sticks like beautifully but then when you go and you look at your footage every single twitch that you've made on your fingers is there so if your
[00:59:42] fingers a little bit shaky you can actually have shakiness in everything but mainly just like we we tend to be pretty aggressive and pretty like poppy with our fingers and so with a lot of feet forward your the rig is like all over the place and every little like if you come down and you make like a little left to right correction with
[00:59:42] high feed forward you see that you see every tiny little correction and they just they end up looking like mistakes running really low feed forward it'll smooth that stuff out so it doesn't read to someone watching the footage as a mistake and it just looks better your footage looks better with low feet
[00:59:42] forward but you are introducing a little bit of delay so it's what do you want goodlook footage or do you want the quad to feel really good if nobody watches your footage fly a quad that feels good if there's people watching your footage or just if
[00:59:42] you want your footage to look better try low or no feed forward or FPV says because my Mobula 624 out of the box came with a really high value on the first turn term in the OSD simplified tuning that that sounds like the beginning of a question but there's no end to the
[00:59:42] question oh I bet you I bet you ORF typed the rest of the question and then hit enter and it was over the character limit or if tag me again and retype the end of that because YouTube has a character limit and I think you got bit by it bad says my X12 has been a
[00:59:42] pig since the day I got it's currently lives in my sketchy flying I might lose this rig whoop I I I have I have heard from a bunch of people when when my first X12 died I said everybody that's going to buy an X12 cuz this was early days of the Mobula 71s which is
[00:59:42] where the X12 came with came on I said everybody else that's getting this rig let me know how your X12 does and a bunch of people had problems so the X12 does not seem to be anywhere near as reliable or durable as
[00:59:42] the 2g4 which is a super shame but again it's oversized you can only put it in one frame that kind of sucks so hopefully this hdrc Spectre is good because then we don't have to get extra anymore and that's pretty awesome
[00:59:42] because it's annoying to be like forced to buy what what is nice about the X12 is that it has those higher amperage fets and it is okay I have gotten a half decent lifespan out of this one over here but not that great of a lifespan if I'm honest I'm
[00:59:42] probably if I had to guess I'm probably only about a 100 batteries into it which is not nearly enough I have two G4S with thousands of batteries on them that are still running strong they do eventually die but so does
[00:59:42] everything MC Muka says Bush mixed up the saying with the song from The Who it was it was hysterical it was really H it wasn't hysterical it was sad but Walter says don't ignore the audio freak who's the audio freak kinetic says I got a set
[00:59:42] corer for like three on sale the FPV mod is super fun even chasing Bots awesome Earth Walker says that makes sense that it's for footage quality regarding feed Ford yep or FPV here we go so the beginning of what he was saying was because my 64 2024 came out of the box with a really high value on the first term which is p gain I'm sorry
[00:59:42] which is dgame D gain in the simplified tuning one out of the box hang time upside seems pretty bad but I'm not sure if that's just tiny whoops indoor yep that's what it is should I tune or let it be no when when you guys buy BNF's as long as they BNF out of the box leave them alone fly
[00:59:42] them until they explode and then change things when you buy a BNF the manufacturer has had a pilot tune it and so and look that pilot is probably better than you so trust them leave it also if you fly 10 batteries on it and it stops working contact the manufacturer and say
[00:59:42] or the place that you bought it from contact the place that you bought it from first and sayI didn't change a goddamn thing I put 10 batteries through this and it's on fire you need to send me another one and they'll usually send you another one if you say to them I with the tune and and
[00:59:42] changed a bunch of and then it blew up it's going to be a much different conversation and they're going to be much more hesitant to send you another one because potentially you it up so if you're going to buy a BNF leave it alone if you fly it a
[00:59:42] bunch if you fly 50 batteries through it at that point I don't feel right about contacting the re if it blows up contacting the reseller and being like this blew up send me another one it's like well no If you flew three If
[00:59:42] you flew 50 batteries and pounded on it pretty good it's kind of like well I mean you can have your own opinion on that and your opinion can be that I'm high and that you should be able to fly a thousand batteries on it and still return it that's that's your choice but for me I don't know
[00:59:42] 50 batteries is is pretty good at that point it's a working rig right and if if at that point it fails it's probably your fault if you babied it for those 50 batteries and you're babying it on the 51st battery and it blows up okay fair enough make him send you another one but like I don't
[00:59:42] know I feel like after 50 batteries and look you should be beating the out of these things it's one of the great joys of this hobby is that you can
[00:59:42] smash the living out of this stuff you're totally safe some of it'll survive if it doesn't survive it's cheap and easy to fix and you can fix it here at your workbench not in your garage in this sweltering heat punching metal bleeding dying wishing that you never been born
[00:59:42] that's just me but it's you should be flying hard and crashing it is one of the great joys of this Hobby and it will provide you great grief in your underneath no it won't that's something different
[00:59:42] fly harder Friends crash more so there's that which is weird leave it be leave it be the the tune that the Mobula 6 2024 comes with is really good the tune that most quads come with nowadays are really good
[00:59:42] and you will probably make it worse by screwing around with it parkour guy says it's honestly incredible a chip so small and cheap can even take 20 20 batteries worth of abuse yes yes that that is very very very true and so if
[00:59:42] if we get 50 batteries out of some gear I'm like all right not too bad not too bad all right we're going to get the the fleet review started in a minute now that it's 418 we will get the fleet review started
[00:59:42] right at 420 so that you stoner donkeys can get all messed up on a Sunday and enjoy the rest of your night and the first level of enjoyment will be looking at some stranger on the internet's quads and him telling you all about them but for right now I I've
[00:59:42] been forgetting to assemble things I'm going to put these 0803 I flate 19,000 KV Motors into this mbula 7 V3 frame off axis ism I'm already messed up LOL alaxis got off to an early start this Sunday that's okay you guys do you
[00:59:42] just don't drive man don't get into any cars have your fun at home sober the up' be cool if there was a version of weed that didn't stay with you as long right like that's one of the things that I will say makes law making around alcohol and just
[00:59:42] alcohol in general a little bit better is that you can get all silly and then sober up a lot quicker than than getting all mangled on the Met but maybe there is I don't know it's been a while maybe there
[00:59:42] is bad flew is AOS 3.5 in thick fog today I was looking I managed to fly back with stop crashing don't don't say those things on the internet don't say that don't make me say that that's not me that's someone else and they're just kidding FAA I
[00:59:42] swear they're just kidding they actually it was totally safe for them to fly back they just they sent me an email just now they said the email saysI'm going to say something controversial in your chat real quick so that you can get more views I just read the email while I was looking down at this
[00:59:42] motor I trust you guys but look don't kill anyone don't hurt anyone if you're flying a 5 in rig don't don't hurt anybody for God's sakes don't be that person don't be that guydon't you don't want to be that guy I love how we have a we have the saying don't be that
[00:59:42] guy what we don't have what saying we don't have is don't be that girl because what women are not dumb like us it's not chauvinism that we don't have the female version of that saying it's intelligence level face
[00:59:42] it we are the dumb we are the smooth brained ones let's just let's just cop to that and let's have a sense of appreciation for how much we've been given as men in this world that we much of which we really don't
[00:59:42] deserve off ax says men are just more Curious I mean while that's true we are also much Dumber much much Dumber all right I got these motors on here actually check this out I'm going to prove to you that a 3mm tall motor is what these frames want by putting
[00:59:42] a prop on here real quick so this is the Mobula 7 V3 frame and when you do a 2mm tall motor the tips of the propeller are absurdly close to hitting the the supports on this Frame one two three four supports but
[00:59:42] I had guessed it's a pretty good guess educated guess that with a 3mm tall motor the props will clear just fine and I'm going to prove that to both you and myself right now but first what I'm going to do is take my99 mm drill bit of which I have
[00:59:42] many extras that you can purchase if you'd like and I'm going to just drill out one of these one millim propellers just a little tiny bit I'm going to drill it out to 99 millim and then it's going to fit properly on this motor without ruining it and you should too if you I swear to
[00:59:42] God if you don't have a 099 mimer drill bit in your house to do this with you are just making your life misery putting propellers on that are too tight ruins Motors it ruins your fingers and it will ruin your life so don't do
[00:59:42] it don't do it I've now drilled this one out and now it will fit just tight enough but not too tight on this motor shaft what I do remember about these iate 083s though is they have really long motor shafts like they're too long and they stab your finger oh see
[00:59:42] see all right and so so I'm trying to put this prop on it's almost all the way down it's getting really difficult to put on when that happens stop don't just smash it on there the rest of the way it'll become impossible to remove take your prop puller pull it off and now try
[00:59:42] one more time sometimes they just need especially when you've drilled them out they get some plastic on the inside so sometimes it just needed to be put on the motor shaft once try it one more time nah it's not going so we're going to drill it out a little bit more don't start spinning it this is
[00:59:42] also something I've learned don't spin propellers when you're taking them on or putting them off most motor shafts not the wee bed ones but most motor shafts are not knurled and so spinning the propeller as you take it on or put it off is going to weaken the connection point between the motor shaft and the
[00:59:42] bell and you can easily start slipping motor shafts on that motor because of that so stop twisting your Motors off and on use a goddamn .99 mm drill bit to get the inner diameter of the propeller correct and then push the propellers straight down and use a
[00:59:42] and also buy the the Clone popper is my favorite from Tiny woop.com the Clone popper has the best Little Hook here it's got the thinnest Little Hook here which makes a huge difference between that and a 99 mm drill bit your tiny
[00:59:42] whoop life will drastically improve and there it is and now it went all the way down with just the right amount of force it's not going to come off and oh tons of room yep these
[00:59:42] Mobula 7 V3 frames are really looking for a 3mm tall motor see the Gap there between that standoff down there and the tip of this propeller with a 2 mm tall propeller the tip of the propeller is right down on this and if you Turtle mode when you Turtle mode the propeller spins this direction when you Turtle
[00:59:42] mode the tip of the propeller catches on that and it bends the tip of the propeller down which is not great tip of the propeller is where the majority of the inefficiencies are going to so these Mobula 7 V3 frames love 3 mil tall Motors or you can run the little motor spacers that you get with
[00:59:42] meteor 65 air frames cool off axis is off to see the wizard Striker asking me to recommend frames for 650 gram all up weight 5 in with 227 011 mini old school Glide frame will totally work I would do the new school Glide
[00:59:42] frame or maybe like AOS those are some of the most popular frames old school Glide frame will work up to 650 grams Earth Walker says I mostly enjoy hemp these days interesting slightly intoxicating after maybe 30 minutes and then just C CBD effects
[00:59:42] after that I didn't realize that it's pretty cool parkour guy says I stay drunk way longer stop drinking so much drink less and it'll wear off quicker wonder if there's I'm sure there's data on that how long each stays in your system Zoe 101 says how much
[00:59:42] for the 0.99 drill bit and where can I get it just message me five bucks which just basically covers the shipping if if you want to be a super ultra Chad as Internet Endor young people say go over to my Etsy store which is linked on
[00:59:42] C fpv.one or two or like something else that's on there and do a little Etsy order or message me what you want from Etsy and get like two things for $10 or what I mean and that way I'll do a little bit better than
[00:59:42] breaking even you don't have to do the order through Etsy you can certainly just message mecan I get two c FPV magnets and a .99 mm drill bit and I'll say yep it's 15 bucks there's a link on my PayPal you can I mean you can just go to
[00:59:42] cfp.net or whatever or the the holographic sticker and I'll send it out to you whatever it's all good it all works I man you gotta really got to drill these out twice damn the you could probably get away
[00:59:42] with a 1 mm drill bit but the 0 N9 I would so that you don't have to drill stuff out twice this is the second time I'm having to drill this propeller out but I would way rather have to do this a second time then over drill it
[00:59:42] so these .99 mil drill bits are kind of perfect for that because if anything they're going to take off too little material but that that kind of depends on you you want to you want to just put the prop onto the drill bit real quick and just remove
[00:59:42] as little material as possible and then test fit's you'll get into the flow right like you got to do four props at a time so the the first and second propellers you'll kind of figure out how much material to sort of remove man this one's being a real bastard
[00:59:42] though nope I'm not going to put I'm not going to put any more force on that it's just going to get stuck on there man it already is Jesus yikes you got to be careful with the the the only thing I will say about the Clone popper I have seen a couple people break one of these little
[00:59:42] teeth off of it as far as I'm concerned that's on you you should not putting be putting propellers on that get that jammed on there you should also not be cranking on this thing that's 3D printed that hard that you can break these little guys maybe maybe you weren't but get a 0 N9 mil drill bit get
[00:59:42] your props fitting properly stop jamming them onto the motors so hard and you'll be better it'll be better I should say so this is now the third time I'm having to drill this one and I'm just kind of pushing the propeller a little bit sideways into the drill bit just to take a little bit of extra Material off and now I can't imagine that that won't
[00:59:42] be right perfect now that one's already down cool I'm going to leave it there this is just my extra frame with these 083s I just want wanted to go through that whole cycle with you guys cuz it's really does make a big difference and when you get the when you get the like this set of props now is good to go for like ever
[00:59:42] you know it's I know it seems like a total pain in the ass but like you drill out a set of props and then they're they're good you'll use them for a while so it's not like you have to drill them out every single time you
[00:59:42] change props what's up tool VC he says hi my friend first message from a new in Sweden good to have you Valor says what do you think is the best 75mm frame Valor There is almost
[00:59:42] never a best there's only ever different different products will have different strengths and weaknesses there is never one that is just the best you might find one that is best for you I unfortunately don't know you so I
[00:59:42] don't know what attributes are the the most important for you so this whole using the word best all the time thing is really really bad we want to get away from that if you go to come on to YouTube and someone is saying like this is the best what they're actually saying is I think this is the
[00:59:42] best for me you're a different person than them so there's a very good chance that it won't be the best for you right so keep that in mind that's a that's a thing that plagues FPV every sing it feels like every single review that comes out the product is the best it's weird like I don't understand how every
[00:59:42] product could possibly be the best me being tongue and cheek right but get that out of your head 75mm frames are kind of all over the place and there are certain ones that work with certain batteries and then but
[00:59:42] like the the two that kind of raised to the top for 1S cuz I haven't really tested all of them for 2S are the Mobula 7v4 and the meteor 75 air the meteor 75 air though will not work with some aios like it won't work with the the
[00:59:42] HappyModel 2g4 AIO for example so the Mobula 7 V4 is awesome because it works with every aiio and it's pretty damn good the meteor 75 a is a little bit lighter which I love but you've got to have like an undersized a for it to work you can't have like a square looking which
[00:59:42] is what the 2g4 is AO so those are two of my personal favorites and many people's favorite frames there are a whole bunch of other ones out there that might work better for whatever aiio you're on whatever all up weight you're targeting whatever battery you want to use right like they're they're just
[00:59:42] different attributes to different ones so almost caught up on chat here bad says you need need to get a prop popper I currently use a key cap remover works really well they do work really well I've used one of those before they just get bent up eventually ster says
[00:59:42] I think favorite is a much better word than best many say the best just mean their favorite true two stick Studios says what antenna upgrade do you recommend for the V 800d for best indoor signal the best antennas that I've found are true RC their most expensive
[00:59:42] antennas are their singularities and they're also their best they're what a lot of longrange guys run so true RC Singularity antennas are awesome
[00:59:42] Zoe 101 dog with the blog says do you pay the same shipping price through Etsy versus on your own I do I don't let Etsy handle shipping I do it myself I'd rather you be in a full dollar amount then Etsy skiing off the top yep that's why I say that if you want to do it just a direct like PayPal or what whatever it's that's a little bit better Etsy doesn't take much but they
[00:59:42] take a little bit the the biggest problem with Etsy is they do not message me when I get new orders so if you guys ever do an Etsy order and it's like a month later and you're sitting there like what the I literally have not seen that order yet the only way that I can see my orders is if I log specifically into Etsy on my desktop and
[00:59:42] go hunting for the orders it's maddening so that's another reason why maybe don't use Etsy use to see what I have and to see what the pricing is and then go to my website and hit the PayPal button and just send me something with a note address what you want and Away we'll go that'll get your stuff shipped
[00:59:42] way faster ster says has the durability on the meteor 75 eror checked out will a cross AIO fit cross AIO will fit durability has not been really checked because it's so brand new Caleb Beck says did you ever figure out why your VTX was overheating from about a week ago or two ago having issues with 75 whop yep had nothing to do with
[00:59:42] the VT VTX it was the ESC that was overheating and it was because it was a 2g4 we talked about it on Friday's stream it's because the 2g4 AIO only has 5 amp fets and we were running super powerful
[00:59:42] Motors on it and they were the motors were so powerful that they were overheating the fets I now have those Motors on the X12 AIO and it's completely fine and that AIO that was overheating I now have on a less powerful motor and it's completely fine so the
[00:59:42] VCI 0 82.8 it's an 0803 0803 27,000 KV motor is super powerful we're about to fly it in a little bit here and it's too much it's too much for the 5 amp fets so that's kind of cool it's kind of cool that we've found the limit of the 5 amp fets and it's 0803 27,000
[00:59:42] KV all right I got to make a huge mess in front of myself but that's fine because I got most of the disassembly that I wanted to do out of the way whoop Fleet review we're going to start off with 65s and we're going to move up to 75 these
[00:59:42] awesome little cases are available over on Tiny whoop.com the printing is beautiful the layer lines are hysterically thin and it's really really really welld designed they have these for 65s and 75s they have a two whoop version and a four whoop version I actually have the the two whoop
[00:59:42] version on on this one there's not really the best spot to put batteries absolutely you can just dump a bnch you put your quads on the outside you can absolutely just dump a bunch of batteries in the middle but then they're kind of all over the place there's a two whoop version of this that has like the
[00:59:42] top and the bottom but they're skewed a little bit and there's two excellent little compartments for you to drop batteries in and so I have one of those on the way I had to do a tiny whoop order the other night and so I'm looking forward to that I'm looking forward to the two whoop version I'm going to switch over Walter says is it fart Friday fart
[00:59:42] Friday it is Zoe sent message on Discord awesome thank you thank you whoop Fleet review here we go friends hold on hold on let me get all the 65s out here all right we're good it all started not all of it but like as of two
[00:59:42] years ago this is the longest running 65 that I've got this is what really I did most of the experimentation on to develop the Ultimate Freestyle tiny whoop this is a mob an old school Mobula 6 elrs with a motor swap BT 2.0
[00:59:42] Swap and at this point an antenna swap also the the the ceramic antenna on this one broke off and I replaced it with a little piece of wire which I at this point I kind of do preemptively cuz I know that the ceramic tower is going to eventually break off for how hard and often I crash for some people the ceramic
[00:59:42] antennas never break off super oh oh oh sorry frame swap as well The HappyModel frames are just super fragile so they'll break right away the the old sorry the old Mobula 6 HappyModel frames would break right away this currently has a cockroach 65 V3 frame on it but
[00:59:42] next time I have to take this apart I will be swapping this over to a cockroach light AF frame newbie drone cockroach light AF frame to save a little bit of weight on this thing this is really the best all-arounder
[00:59:42] great for inside works for outside this will let you do any like any of the tricks you've ever seen me do that are like ridiculous and gnarly I'm able to do on this rig it's got just the right amount of power super durable this is it man this is it 2g4 AIO the old school
[00:59:42] mobula 6 canopy RunCam nano3 I love these ort micro V antennas I run them right through one of the holes in the top of the canopy I use one of the higher up holes so that it can't bend down and get into the propellers it's still sort of can but it usually doesn't I've been using higher and
[00:59:42] higher holes this is this is just a PCB material so it's pretty godamn durable so you smash it a lot but they've they've been totally fine very simple easy to rebuild if you lose it not expensive there's like 150 bucks all in in this build
[00:59:42] and that's with the that's assuming that you bought the BNF and for a hundred bucks and then spent $4 something dollars on the motors and another six on the antenna if you just buy the 2G 4 you could build this for basically 100 bucks if you can find
[00:59:42] the 2g4 AIO in stock it's 50 something dollars and then the motors are 40 something and then a couple bucks for the frame couple bucks for the canopy camera will be another 20 I guess you'll be like 120 bucks because of the camera but inexpensive build unbelievable flight characteristics
[00:59:42] looks pretty good in this configuration too the light blue this is on Tiny whoop 0702 32,000 KV Motors the moon Travelers they these are actually like 29,000 KV Motors when you do the when when you when you actually spin them up to calculate the K the KV we
[00:59:42] have learned in the last couple of weeks that HappyModel Motors are very overrated the the KV numbers on the motors are way too high which is a part of the reason why their motors have always seemed to be very effici efficient but their Motors are also very
[00:59:42] efficient is a fact but when when you buy a 32,000 KV HappyModel motor just know that you're getting like 3 to 4,000 less KV so if you want 30,000 KV Buy 32 or 36 if you want 32,000 KV buy the 36 if you want 36,000 KV by the 40,000 KV that's
[00:59:42] just sort of how it works but man Ultimate Freestyle tiny whoop this is phenomenal I have built and sold a bunch of these I have turned probably hundreds of people onto this combination of parts and the messages that I get back are holy this is unbelievable not like wow you're the worst why would
[00:59:42] you tell me to buy to build such a heap of I don't think I have I've had a single person that is stuck to the formula and built this to the formula and not been like Blown Away by it's just fantastic so man Ultimate Freestyle tiny whoop this is this is where a lot of that work is gone
[00:59:42] this is basically the same thing but with the the black V3 frame this one is going to stay on the Cockroach 65 V3 frame because this has the 36,000 KV more powerful Motors more powerful Motors I want a more durable frame
[00:59:42] this is also like between these two rigs this this has a bunch more power once that gets onto the lightweight frame it'll be lighter so these two will be a really cool point and counter point less power less weight more power more weight it needs the more durability for the more weight right but it's I
[00:59:42] like to have rigs that are that I can fly them back to back and talk about this one has more weight for more throw and more power for that look how our run times were affected look how the flight characteristics are a little bit different yada y y so same exact
[00:59:42] formula oh also GemFan so lower KV Motors three blade props higher KV Motors byblade props this is currently on GemFan 1210 by blades this is on the HQ ultr light YOLO as I call them Tri blades the lower KV the three blades
[00:59:42] higher KV two blades I would not want to run these 36,000 KV or 40,000 KV Motors on Tri blades that seems like that'd be asking an awful lot of the little 5 amp feds it would probably be fine but I try to keep it sort of realistic moving
[00:59:42] into 2024 we've had a couple of well so the 2g4 aios are not really all that avail ailable anymore although a couple of companies get FPV and Pyro drone have gotten a bunch of them in stock lately which is kind of weird but HappyModel did tell me a while ago
[00:59:42] that the 2g4 is no longer being made I don't know if they've changed their minds on that or what or if they've just found a bunch of old stock and that's what they've sent to get FPV Andor pyro drone but whatever at the moment you might be able to buy a 2g4 if you can if you can find one snag them
[00:59:42] I still think it's the best AIO that's ever been produced for a tiny whoop so just snag one to have it but moving into 2024 HappyModel put out a new BNF called the Mobula 6 2024 a name that is not going to age well maybe it is I don't know
[00:59:42] and that's this guy here it is now fully upgraded but out of the box the Mobula 6 2024 is damn good the fully upgraded version is ridiculous this is like the version one which was direct soldered I don't think they even sell this anymore now that it's the version
[00:59:42] two which has motor plugs which I actually like better the whole motor plug thing just makes motor swaps a lot easier and you're going to blow up Motors on Tiny whoops it's a it's just a part of the game and if a motor repair is removing three screws and unplugging it you're going to fly that
[00:59:42] tiny whoop a lot harder versus a motor repair being cutting connectors off of the fresh motor Des taking apart the entire build so that you don't melt the frame and the process so now we're talking about removing 12 motor screws and four stack
[00:59:42] screws and then desoldering the existing motor cutting the the connectors off the fresh motor stripping tinning resoldering the the fresh motor and then reassembling the entire build right that amount of work you're not going to fly that rig as hard so I don't love that these
[00:59:42] motors are direct soldered but it is a little bit lighter you save 6 of a gram by cutting off the motor connectors and removing the the connectors from the AIO that's a lot that that is a solid amount of weight so if you're direct soldering your Motors my hat is off to
[00:59:42] you your rig is going to fly better but I do not envy you when it's time to replace those Motors and so just just think about that this is a fully upgraded Mobula 6 2024 and it flies unbelievable GemFan 129s propellers
[00:59:42] which get a little bit more power out of these 28,000 KV HappyModel 0 72s so at aate rated 28,000 KV they're actually only like 25 or 26,000 KV which is why these 129s propellers are so good these are the most pitchy lightest weight
[00:59:42] propellers that there are the the HQ ultral light Tri blades are much less pitchy they are a little bit lighter but they are much less pitchy these propellers really wake these lower KV Motors up this is a newbie drone light AF frame and I've converted
[00:59:42] this to the old school abula 6 canopy with nano3 camera to save a little bit of weight and then the micro antenna this thing weighs 16.6 gram like this it's all off the- shelf parts and it's just blasts this is so much fun to fly if
[00:59:42] you buy a Mobula 6 2024 I think that you should do these same upgrades it really brings the thing alive I also have a BetaFPV meteor air 65 that unfortunately crashed into the dogs bowl and the VTX on it blew up but that rig
[00:59:42] as a BNF I think is actually a little bit better it's a little bit lighter and if you're not going to upgrade it's a little bit better than the Mobula 6 2024 the Mobula 6 2024 takes upgrades better and is better when you upgrade it so if the plan is to
[00:59:42] upgrade it down the road get the Mobula 6 2024 if the plan is just to take it out of the box and fly that the hell out of it get the beta air 65 now we get into my RC drift car chasing rigs which use this batwing Mount that Tim's created for me that is
[00:59:42] available on my 3D printing patreon text Channel shouldn't there be another analog one of these did I take two of these apart did I lose a rig h no there it is there it is there it is there it is oh right right right I forgot to talk about this I'm going to switch the frame on one of
[00:59:42] these so these are the analog RC car chasing rigs the camera is all the way up front for no props no ducts in view also this makes the camera sit lower to the ground when I'm I I fly on the carpet and so the camera being that
[00:59:42] low to the ground versus the camera being up here it actually does make a big difference and these are much easier to fly super low to the ground and so 2g4 sing true RC Singularity antenna because I only fly these things low to the ground where
[00:59:42] this antenna sitting right next to the AIO becomes not great is when that happens if you if the camera lens is the goggle antenna and you fly this thing in a way that you hide the antenna behind the big old sheet of copper in this
[00:59:42] PCB the signal goes to hell when that happens when you fly above your head so getting these Ultra short true RC Singularity antennas is only really going to give you better performance if you fly it below head level and when you're below head level it's flying around like this and that antenna is almost always other than that
[00:59:42] but it's just barely you can kind of almost see it right so if you're going to fly down like chasing the RC drift cars down below your head these these antennas will work great if not don't run them because it's drastic I flew I flew this
[00:59:42] rig when it had this antenna set up on it 1,400 ft straight up to the top of a radio tower at the top of that radio tower I had zero video when I turned it over it was full static and it went from Full static to Crystal Clear video when
[00:59:42] I inverted this thing because at the top it was this situation where the antenna was completely behind the the the the ground plane in the AI and then I turned it over and now I just had air between the antenna and my goggles and the signal was I you
[00:59:42] not it was perfectly clean so these antennas you got to you got to be careful of that if you're going to be flying above your head a lot if you hang out in the basement and then you fly up in your living room this antenna sitting
[00:59:42] really low is no good you could fix it if I just took this antenna and rotated it to the front and hung the antenna out here it would be totally fine cuz then when I went above myself the antenna would be here and it would be beam and straight but if you're going to have the antenna next to the the PCB understand
[00:59:42] that the PCB has a big sheet of copper in it and that copper will block the RF coming off this and you'll be relying only on bounces right at the top of that radio tower there was nothing for the signal to bounce off so I had no video Food For Thought friends so this is and so these RC drift
[00:59:42] chasing rigs have to be built in the in the cockroach 65 V3 frame cuz it has these little hooks on the frame and I use those hooks for the camera mount other than that these are just standard Mobula 6 elrs builds 2g4 AIO
[00:59:42] 0702 I have different Motors on different ones this one is the the throttle resolution King on 28,500 KV Motors I have another one on 36,000 KV motors which I can kind of throw it around a little bit more and so different rigs for different kind of
[00:59:42] flight styles for different purposes right tons of throttle resolution on this one this is the one that I fly really low all the time and try to just stay on the RC drift cars doors if I want to do some more like crazy wild and try to like throw up over the car get inverted do weird power loops and I do it with this one with the
[00:59:42] 36,000 KV Motors this guy is actually going to get pulled apart so there's two different versions of the Cockroach cockroach 65 V3 frame this is the lighter weight version of the frame in I want to say polypropylene don't quote me on that but
[00:59:42] it's a softer plastic they also sell it in I was right about that PP they also sell the frame in PC polycarbonate in a more clear more brittle plastic but but it is a stronger plastic and I'm going to move this one over to that frame this is the
[00:59:42] 36,000 KV version more power I'm going to try it on the more rigid frame unfortunately this Frame is a little bit heavier which I don't love but I'm wondering if with this Frame I can crank the PID tune up a little bit more and
[00:59:42] so I'm going to try it and we'll see what happens I am going to take this though I'm going to swap I'm actually going to combine a couple different things this is currently on the Mobula 6 2024 V2 AIO and this has a little bit of Jello-O in the mid what I
[00:59:42] haven't confirmed that on this build I'm going to fly this build a little bit to see if the jello is there with all of these changes that I've made right different camera different camera mount different frame I haven't noticed I got to fly this and see if it if it still has that Jello problem
[00:59:42] I bet you it does I think the jello problem is related to them removing some capacitance I think one of the ways that they Shrunk the the the aiio down on the Mobula 6 2024 versus the old 2g4 is to remove some of the capacitance HappyModel has done that in the past with the diamond it's why the diamond aiio is
[00:59:42] worthless cuz they removed so much capacitance that the electrical system is too noisy for you to get a half decent pit tune I have I had I had dropped another AIO that I just had sitting here into this one to do some camera testing but this at this
[00:59:42] point is just an extra cockroach V3 frame with an extra little batwing Mountain Camera sitting on it ready to go with middle of the road Motors 0702 30,000 KV so this just kind of hangs out on the desk and then we get into the 65mm WalkSnail
[00:59:42] builds of which there are two hold done oh man is that satisfying just having four tiny whoops and a nice little case nice and protected godamn those cases are available on Tiny woop.com I really like them two WalkSnail 65mm rigs this is the one that I used to chase the little RC drift cars
[00:59:42] all of the WalkSnail builds are BetaFPV cross style aios you can kind of see it there it's the same AO that all the racers run it's just the regular old BetaFPV no VTX inside of it elrs AO f411 AIO and then the WalkSnail light system this guy has a true RC
[00:59:42] Singularity left-hand circular polarized which is glued down to the board because it kept popping off batwing Mount and then the camera up front again cockroach 65 V3 frame because I need the hooks for the for the Batwing Mount and then this guy has Weeble FPV 07 both of these guys have Weeble 0702
[00:59:42] 40,000 KV Motors WalkSnail adds a lot of weight and so these 0 72s are the most powerful 0 72s so it really these motors really wake these rigs up and the runtime is not that bad the the freestyle version has the Mobula 6 canopy
[00:59:42] slightly modified you got to file the opening a little bit for the for the light camera but that's it these two rigs are really identical other than the canopy setup versus the Batwing and they both have the same antennas very very fun even though
[00:59:42] this is the freestyle build it's not really I don't know you can do a bunch of free styly stuff with it I'm not totally happy with it from a freestyle standpoint just cuz it's kind of heavy but for most people they would absolutely love this when you start to fly this really hard your run times
[00:59:42] drop below two minutes and that is really hard on the batteries so I don't know for me this is more like an aggressive cop fly it like an aggressive cine whoop don't go completely nuts with it from a freestyle perspective and and
[00:59:42] you're going to really like this thing if you go completely nutty with it and crash it constantly I don't know if it's going to hold up all that well it's kind of heavy it's going to carry all that extra weight into the crashes I think this is better off as like
[00:59:42] like an aggressive cop but if you want a cop build this because it's got no props in view the problem with this is this is a zero uptilt kind of situation here whereas this you can run a bunch of up tilt on it but if you do run a bunch of up tilt tilt on this you're going to be flying it really fast
[00:59:42] and you're going to destroy your batteries and you're going to get really short run time so I don't know at some point this guy might come apart because I don't really find myself flying this hardly ever but I'm leaving it together for right now to see if I can find a good use for it when you run at low camera angle there's a little bit of duct in view so what's the point
[00:59:42] I'd rather have a zero camera angle kind of setup I think what's going to happen is I'm going to pull this apart and put it into and build another one of the these because I use this a good amount and this is fun to fly outside and so I don't know we'll see I'm flying this here and there
[00:59:42] to try to find a good home for it that's all the 65mm rigs 75 mil rigs are kind of in flux they're they're moving around a bunch but we can talk about the current state of there being the now we'll start One S of
[00:59:42] course from the lightest weight 1S this is an old school Mobula 6 converted into a jungle gym Basher old school mobul 6 you buy which which has the 2g4 AIO you buy a mobul 7 V4 frame it drops right in and you swap the motors over
[00:59:42] the easiest motor swap is the tiny whoop IAL special edition 0802 27,000 KV which has a 1 12 mm motor shaft those are the motors that are on on this Frame right here and they just work the 1 and half mm motor shaft is
[00:59:42] strong you can bounce this off of a jungle gym all day long great power great for flying outside little heavy for inside but it's doable at the moment I have it on VCI 0703 23,500 KB Motors and they're pretty damn good they're a little bit lighter
[00:59:42] than those o 0802 Motors they don't make quite as much power but almost and I'm pretty impressed by them they only have 1 mm motor shafts so at the moment I'm basically just seeing how durable VCI 1 mm motor shafts are so that's why I'm running them right now once I've figured that
[00:59:42] out basically once I've bent one or two of these motors up I will pull these off and I will put this back into the frame that's got the 0802 27,000 on it but that's where this guy is that's what you can do with an old school Mobula 6 is convert it to this if you want to fly it outside more than inside
[00:59:42] this is the actual Mobula 7 1S elrs X12 AIO same canopy and camera and then this one has a motor swap the motors that the the mobul 71s Els comes with suck the bells are good so hold on to those Motors don't throw them away the bells you can swap onto higher KV
[00:59:42] Happ model 0802 Staters so definitely hold on to those Motors but the Staters that those motors come with are only 20,000 KV which is way too low you want to be at least like 25,000 if not 27 so that's what this is these are VCI 82.8 27,000 KV Motors and they
[00:59:42] absolutely rip these are the most powerful 1S tiny whoop Motors that we've got right now unfortunately they're on 1 mm motor so you get all this power but probably they'll Break I'll let I haven't really hammered either one of these super hard yet I was I've just been flying them to
[00:59:42] get the flight feel they are going to get just tortured at this point though this is a Mobula 7 frame on Prototype Motors no need to talk about that this is a well now we get into the walks snow rigs we'll talk about this in a second so the walk nail build is exactly
[00:59:42] the same as what we just looked at BetaFPV cross AIO with the WalkSnail light setup Mobula 6 canopy light camera at the moment this is in a so since it's a BetaFPV cross style AIO you can use the M the meteor 75 air frame which I really it's a little bit lighter
[00:59:42] than the mobo 7 frame and now I have at the moment BetaFPV 110222 2000s on here I'm not in love with this motor I think I like these RC and Power 102 2200s a little bit better but the 102s don't make quite as much power but the
[00:59:42] 102s are better balance so you can run a tighter pit tune and you get less Jello-O in your flight footage these 1102s are notoriously not all that well balanced they're also in my experience kind of fragile but is a toss up between these two Motors the other motor
[00:59:42] option is actually these VCI 0802 eights they'll give you the lightest weight and the most power and they're very well balanced the problem with them is runtime they're they're the least efficient out of these motor options and also the one millim
[00:59:42] motor shaft so they're not going to be as as durable all of the 102s and 1102s have 1 and a half millim motor shafts so that's where the 1S walks build is I I'm in between all these different Motors I don't love the way that it performs with any of these motors but you would probably be okay with it I'm a snob when it comes to
[00:59:42] flight performance so most people would would love this build on any three of these motors and then there's the 2S version which absolutely blew me away still testing the different frames that are available still testing different Motors that are available
[00:59:42] walks snail light this AO is very hard to find at the moment it is a BetaFPV 2S 1S to 2S AIO no VTX on board elrs with instead of having a big long USB port to plug into it's got a silly little jst port on the board that they then give you a little adapter to plug
[00:59:42] into which is then USBC which works really well the the point is that when you go to a 2S setup your batteries become a lot taller and some of the 2S frames some of the 2S frames tuck the battery up so close to the board that
[00:59:42] the USB will hit the battery and you can't have that so for my 2S setup I've chosen this wacky kind of AIO although it is hard to find 2S aios with elrs on board that are all lightweight so I think this might be the best AO Choice BT 3.0 I'm doing some motor
[00:59:42] testing right now the my favorite Motors out of three that I've run so far which is not a very big sample size are the t-motor 102 18,000 this currently has old school HappyModel 802 19,000 which are really good not quite as good as the t-
[00:59:42] motors and these are a 1 mil shaft the t- motors are one and a half mil shaft so the t- motors ripped I love them I've also tried the flywoo 102 23,500 you have to really motor limit those awful far down to bring the KV under control bring the RPM under control so there you go that's
[00:59:42] the 2S setup really really good the reason why it's not flying right now is my fault 100% so when it was flying it was remarkably durable oh the batteries are important on that setup tiny whoop has 300mah 2S BT 3.0 batteries hands
[00:59:42] down those are the batteries that you want to run every other battery is way heavier and those batteries have been fantastic on that setup that's the fleet my friends there's also a tiny lifter up here but we've talked about that a ton and that's it that's the fleet every rig has a specific purpose
[00:59:42] some of them are kind of just like testing rigs but eventually they turn from testing rigs sometimes into like I've fallen in love with this combination of Parts this is my heavy powerful version of an indoor or an outdoor rig I like to try to have like two of two of everything because
[00:59:42] if you only have one of something and it breaks you're screwed so what that's turned into a lot of the times is like I'll have two freestyle rigs one of them is a little bit heavier a little bit more powerful one of them is a little bit lighter a little bit less
[00:59:42] powerful right right that's a really nice way of having two rigs that are not drastically different but they're just different enough to where you can keep learning and keep kind of figuring out which you which style you like better heavier more powerful lighter less bright but at the same time you can get better and better and better
[00:59:42] there you go friends MOS 133 says will the ultimate tiny woop page still be updated it will Joshua actually asked me little over a week ago to update it and I just haven't found the time yet but I will two stick Studios says thoughts on air 65 racing version for my first first
[00:59:42] tiny whoop get it's great don't upgrade it don't tune it leave it the hell alone buy it and fly the out of it when it breaks fix it the air 65 is perfect for leaving alone it's not the rig to update upgrade if you want a new currently available tiny whoop
[00:59:42] that you're going to upgrade that's the Mobula 6 2024 the air 65 is 95% perfect the way it is so just leave it alone the Mobula 6 2024 is 80% perfect the way it is you can get it to 98% perfect with some upgrades
[00:59:42] some simple upgrades but the air 65 racing is awesome you'll love it earthwalker says when I replace direct soldered Motors I often just snip the wire in the middle rather than deal with the pads probably not ideal but but works for the
[00:59:42] lazy that'll totally work and it's not even that bad to do it that way it's a little bit bad it's but not even that bad to do it that way Corsair FPV says I've updated my meteor 65 Pro original motors which were 802 19,500 to
[00:59:42] Weeble 702 Gore 28,500 do you recommend me to use GemFan 31 mm by blades instead of 35mm tries I do but those 31 mm props are going to be kind of silly inside of that bigger heavier frame so really what you want to do Corsair is replace the frame as well if you're going to be taking Motors off you might as well replace the frame right it's three or
[00:59:42] four whole dollars so snag yourself a newbie drone light AF frame also get a V3 cockroach 65 V3 frame and it depends if if you want it to just be durable and probably never break put it directly into the V3 frame and swap it over to either the while you're at it buy the three really good
[00:59:42] propellers look spend 20 whole dollars and get all of the good go to newbie drone and get the the light AF frame in the clear color definitely don't buy it in Black get it in either the clear or the white I think you should get it in the clear get the
[00:59:42] the GemFan 1210 by blades the GemFan 129s Tri blades and the HQ ultr light Tri blades now you've got the best frames and all the best props and do that Swap and you will be your brain will melt out of your at how much better that thing flies with that
[00:59:42] setup than it did out of the box you're still going to be a little bit heavy because you're going to have that heavier meteor 65 canopy an external VTX kind of pain in the ass thing but you're going to save a bunch of weight and you'll be blown away
[00:59:42] how much better that thing flies you you'll you'll hardly believe it waler says you cannot walk on one leg you can hop though just Mo says what do you think of the Weeble 40,000 KV on a 75mm HD c0 rig that would last probably about 10 seconds before those
[00:59:42] Motors melted 75mm R 0702 Motors have no place on 75mm rigs they are 65mm motor to motor only 1.2 in prop only for a 75mm rig you need to be on an 802 or bigger for a 75mm HD zero rig you need to be on an 803 or a 102 2 802s are not really big enough for the
[00:59:42] extra weight of a digital video system so 75mm hd0 rig you are into the world that I'm in with this where I can't find a set of Motors that I love but the BetaFPV 1102 2200s are pretty good the RC and Power 102 22,000 are
[00:59:42] pretty good the 0803 VCI 27,000 are pretty good but 72s on a 75mm rig are awful Brandon McAn says I'm a little out of the loop I've been busy being lame with an about of two but about the 65 Air versus Mobula 6 2024 is the difference between the two just tuning or Hardware great question Brandon
[00:59:42] it's Hardware the the air 65 has an internal VTX and an external receiver which is just kind of silly that's just kind of a silly way of doing it but then and then the the camera that it comes with is just kind of okay the
[00:59:42] motors are direct soldered so to replace the motors is a total pain in the ass and it comes with 20 the the race version comes with 29,000 KV Motors that are actually like 29,000 KV so you just don't need to upgrade it like the
[00:59:42] the the air 65 race out of the box is is really really good the frame is really light the external receiver setup is a little bit weird but whatever it's done for you it's there they use a specific plug which is kind of annoying but whatever it's there it's done it's good
[00:59:42] to go the camera is okay the canopy is okay the whole thing is like a really decent package the the Mobula 6 2024 is almost as good it's not quite as good because the 28,000 KV Motors are overrated they're actually only like 25 or 26,000 KV so it's a little bit
[00:59:42] underpowered with the motors but the motors are on plugs so you spend that extra 40 bucks and you get 40,000 KV motors which are actually like 36,000 KV 36,000 KV motors which are actually like 32,000 KV or 32,000 KV Motors that are actually like the same as the BetaFPV
[00:59:42] 28 29,000 and then you can also go to the old school Mobula 6 canopy and the runcam nano3 camera which makes it even lighter like you can make the Mobula 6 2024 lighter than
[00:59:42] the you can make it a little bit lighter than the air 65 if you're willing to do a bunch of upgrades to it but man the air 65 race is damn good right out of the box and so that's where that line of thinking kind of comes from it is 5117 my friends and I have not flown go
[00:59:42] figure let's fly a few let's fly a few braries pull this memory card and throw them in here all right we're going to do the big dumb and fly 75 millim rigs in the house but I'm going to do it with these
[00:59:42] really lightweight little emac 300mah fatty fat fat batteries that I've moved over to BT 2.0 first up we're going to fly this the VCI 703 rig this is one of the ways that I'm going to put a bunch of crashes into these VCI Motors to see which
[00:59:42] ones hold up and which ones catch on fire and burn the house down ready go it'll be fine here we go we're not why are you not showing me video HD zero goggles come on now little fellas live
[00:59:42] Live HD zero goggles they live all right here we go friends this is basically just a jungle gy Basher with these VCI 0703 Motors 23,500 KV let me make sure the throttle Expo is set right so on the right side of the screen there 38 39 40 30 36 37 35 34 that's my throttle
[00:59:42] position to set your throttle X midpoint properly cruise around the room at your normal cruising speed and just get an idea of what the average is for that throttle number 36 37 39 40
[00:59:42] 36 so the average is basically like 38 come into your menu miscellaneous PP go up to go to the bottom nope that's not the right thing it's in rate and the throttle midpoint is at 38 so it's already set perfectly and there you go that is how you keep your throttle
[00:59:42] Expo midpoint where it should be you're going to have to do that when you change Motors when you change props when you change flying locations if you fly outside you're going to fly faster your cruising throttle point is going to be much
[00:59:42] higher there he is there's the little dog that is heartbroken that ball is gone but it's his own fault if he could have kept it under control with ball we would have let him had it have it but he just he just can't man he
[00:59:42] can't what what what's ah JoJo's Master full adventure let's just absolutely terrorize aelia she kicking it I'm trying to oh man I got look at all this uptail I'm trying to put it right in front of her [Laughter] face all right these 703s are
[00:59:42] really good I'm really impressed by these let's do dumb though and crash the out of them I thought for sure I would crash on that oh that was a that was a cool little wall ride to throw oh uhoh where am
[00:59:42] I oh this battery is dunzo so you can see the run time on these fat boy little 300 MH batteries is not nearly as much as the 450s but it's lighter with these batteries and they these are actually an old g&b battery that quad 66 turned me on to that emac has them
[00:59:42] like white label for or whatever and it's quad 66 said this is one of his favorite batteries of all time and then g&b stopped making it and he was like upset but they have great nice low internal resistance and they just perform awesome the problem
[00:59:42] with them is when you buy them from emac they have gnb 27 leads on them so you got to cut those leads off and solder on and solder on BT 2.0 which really blows it's doable but super annoying all
[00:59:42] right another fresh 300 o rejection oh come on now stop it let me fly house oh God what's happening why are 75 M rigs so hard to fly in the house there we go excuse the mess I'm
[00:59:42] I'm trying to organize a bunch of stuff it is a pig sty around here anybody interested in a beautiful set of JBL Studio 580s let me know cleanest set of JBL 580s you'll ever
[00:59:42] see Don all right let's get upstairs where we can really Hammer this thing wow this battery's getting effed already oh oh upstairs is where the hard crashes happen bro oh almost got her on that
[00:59:42] one JoJo's magnificent Bing Bong fling flong sing along okay that that's not a water balll is it nope good good good good all right this battery is done Zoo oh I'm also for the record flying these pretty
[00:59:42] hard but 75mm rigs for flying outside right you're going to fly hard outside so okay there's 200 two 300 MH batteries we're going to swap over to a 450 and you'll see the difference in runtime for sure you might also see a difference in weight the the smaller Mah batteries
[00:59:42] it's like having a smaller gas tank in a way it's just they will sag more drones and says how often do you play drums every couple of days I've been really trying to get a little bit back into it get my chops back into a choppy place it's awful loud though I try not to
[00:59:42] do it when like Maggie's in her office working cuz like her office is pretty much right above not quite like right above the drum set is the kitchen but then like right next to the kitchen is Maggie's office and she's doing important in there and so I try to wait until she's not in
[00:59:42] there but it's very fun I started playing at like 9 years old and I played all through college and I was really really good I wasn't like the best like there was always a couple of people better than me but I was pretty damn good and I had a real blast doing it actually no we're
[00:59:42] going to run one more 300 because this is the rig to run the 300 MH batteries on I'm not going to put these 300s through the 82.8 rig it'll just sag the batteries back to the 1800s all right one
[00:59:42] more one more you stank ass ho you all better have done your six batteries today whoa that came out of nowhere oh I could have smacked her right in the face but I chose not
[00:59:42] to I could just see her start to smile more and more as it gets more Reckless oh God I don't know what I was doing there okay so now there's a dangly battery you can see it oh we got a dingleberry we got a
[00:59:42] dingleberry try to safely get it down the stairs dingleberry confirmed these these batteries need like a little bit of shimming to fit in the battery tray perfectly just so all right we good we all I'll fly
[00:59:42] it down here for the rest of the 300 MH battery crash prevention saved me twice there couldn't quite get it sorted before the dive tunnel crash recovery work overtime today oops
[00:59:42] oh God that's back behind you that's in a really annoying spot to get to godamn you why there it is okay okay away we go all right there's the four the the 300s the runtime has never been great on them but they perform awesome and if you're going to fly a 75mm rig in the house you should probably have have a few CU
[00:59:42] they are great for that arguably that's kind of their only use same rig 450 mahh battery watch the runtime change and you might see like higher RPM numbers in the in the RPM reporting because the battery just
[00:59:42] it's just has more it's got more to give and now since it's the bigger battery I'm going to push it harder see the tune is kind of falling apart a little bit there let's see if we can get a little more Dean into it to fix that some f tuning wow we already have a lot Jesus
[00:59:42] hell but there's a little bit more oh oh that hit like a ton of bricks in theory it's fine though at this point I just want to annoy aelia [Laughter] oh it's gonna be off on top oh no it's on top oh no it's on top and in the
[00:59:42] plant I don't know if I can reach it I'm gonna have to get the goddamn ladder no no for for I figure if I fall and die while live streaming it'll it'll probably get some views and then the family can maybe live off some of
[00:59:42] that Revenue [Laughter] [Laughter] oh I'm gonna get you buddy I'm gonna get you I'm gonna nibble at those Paws I want to get it back onto the hardwood I knew he would do it I knew it I knew if I chased him he would chase me
[00:59:42] back chase him he can chase us oh it doesn't back up as good as it oh farts oh Jesus oh God Teddy oh he's scared of it oh I hope that didn't ruin it all I think I almost hit him with it wow it went through the it took a hit to go through there but it did go
[00:59:42] through let's see if he's full-blown scared no he's okay he's good he fine see him in there what's he doing will he come to it you realize today you can drive it around like an RC
[00:59:42] car well he come see it no I might have scared him I hope not okay big 450mah battery lots of screwing around so the run time is going to be all screwed up but oh wait what did what was that hold
[00:59:42] on oh I oh okay so that's the move for up there I've been trying to find a move to use use this so I've got this like diagonal channel right like for sake I've got this like diagonal channel of house where I can't do a
[00:59:42] Power loop I can't go up here and do a Power Loop because I'll hit the ceiling see how the ceiling drops down here and I I've never been a really the the only thing I've been able to figure out to do so far is this move oh god oh oh oh I've lost video that's not great oh I'm in the
[00:59:42] kids bathroom oh God okay the only move I've figured out really how to do is like this thing right which you see me do a million times but now I got it's pitch forward and then you stall it out so you run it up here you pitch it forward and
[00:59:42] you catch it you catch it kind of there this battery is starting to look sag but diagonal up catch it and then you run it down backwards I a lot I just got to make sure I clear that railing which I'm not doing a great job with right now so throw it
[00:59:42] up and then I got to try to clear the railing but then I got to also try not to hit the roof oh god oh how many times am I going to crash this thing un recoverable oh
[00:59:42] hey he's not afraid of it he's Invincible why is the why do the stream look so bad what the hell the has it been like that's the that the whole time oh my
[00:59:42] God Woo is maybe the antenna unplugged or something no antenna's fine has it been the whole time that was really bad at the top of the stairs let me make sure that
[00:59:42] the know it's still plugged in for just being at the top of the stairs that looked awful huh there you go that run time is a little bit over inflated because of all the teddy play time just when I was on the ground okay cool all right good last thing I'm
[00:59:42] going to do is an ultra light lightweight 65mm battery just so that you guys can have a little bit of perspective this is a Mobula 6 2024 with couple of mods thrown at it simple stuff nothing nuts and I'm going to run a little 260 MH battery to
[00:59:42] really exemplify the difference between heavy and light a this battery ain't charged what the hell wow it's so different Jesus Christ it is so different still loads of power you might
[00:59:42] be able to tell there's less momentum almost caught it oh God I got a little close on that one where'd he go I can usually hear him clicking around you run back to Mommy no where the hell is he oh
[00:59:42] god there he is he was going to aelia funny little fella so much more acceleration much quicker acceleration much more accurate less less momentum but still plenty of momentum for for throws around the house it's
[00:59:42] just like if you're going to fly something like this outside it might not it might legitimately not have enough momentum for you let me in there son of a let me go through what
[00:59:42] I will burn this battery to the ground if that's what it takes how dare you okay okay okay I'm in a box you you well I probably just ruined that battery over discharging it but whatever at least I tried to force
[00:59:42] it that's what there you go friends Fleet review some flying got all technical for a little while there about that man I will say moving back and forth between flying 75 and 65 is very difficult they they are
[00:59:42] very different animals for inside the house 65 is King unquestionably but for outside there's you can make an argument for either if I could only have one it would for sure be a 65 rig on like 36,000 or 40,000 KV Motors because they rip outside
[00:59:42] so if there can only be one it should be a 65 I think cuz it is so much better inside and then it still works outside 75 is a little bit better outside and kind of works inside but like flying it inside
[00:59:42] you're going to destroy everything you own so don't do that the people that you live with will not be happy about that so 65 for life not really these tiny whoops are cheap enough that it's 300 bucks will get you a
[00:59:42] fully upgraded 65 a fully upgraded 75 and then you've got the mother of all jungle gy Bashers and the ultimate your version of The Ultimate Freestyle tiny whoop thanks for hanging friends CF pv.com to support me it does mean a lot and it is the only way I can continue to do this fulltime I love you goodbye I'm not
[00:59:42] ready let's here's some of the HD RC drift car chasing that I spent another four or five hours on the edit's coming along after the stream the other day be good friends see you tomorrow night at 10