

[00:02:23] Welcome Friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti welcome to the show that was the meteor 75 Pro BetaFPV meteor 75 Pro BNF just with a propeller swap I
[00:02:40] moved it from the GemFan 45mm Tri blades that it comes with over to these HQ 45mm Tri blades these are a little bit lighter and they seem to be a little bit better bounced and it flies really
[00:02:57] good like this setup is like shocking and we're going to talk more about it tonight we're going to compare it to a couple of the 75mm custom built rigs which have vanished
[00:03:13] they're similar to this this one has WalkSnail but we've spent tons of time and admittedly the the the 75mm custom builds do fly a little bit better but for a BNF this is hysterically
[00:03:28] good but we're going to compare it to a couple of the custom builds that we've been working on forever and talk about what I would upgrade on it as well as we'll look at the tune real
[00:03:42] quick I was able to push the tune up a little bit with these slightly balanced more balanced propellers and really really impressive stuff really decent BNF with the
[00:03:56] 75 air coming out you might see these 75 Pros start to get discounted because maybe they'll do a lightweight version of this for anybody that doesn't know 75 Pro meteor the the
[00:04:14] pro designates slightly bigger propellers there's a 65 Pro that I really don't recommend and then there's the 75 Pro and that Pro designation means that they've moved
[00:04:28] from like basically 40 mm propellers to 45s and so the frame is bigger the props are bigger luckily they put like the perfect Motors on this rig which is the main reason that it flies so good and so
[00:04:45] you've got a it is actually 75 motor so when when we say 65mm tiny whoop 75mm tiny whoop we're talking about the motor to motor distance we're not talking about the size of the
[00:04:58] propellers 65mm propellers are 2 and2 in the actual propellers that we run on 65mm rigs are 1.2 in right and so this motor to motor distance actually is 75 but they've made the ducts bigger in
[00:05:17] the frame and in the process like the whole frame has gotten bigger so the the the motor to motor motor post to motor post distance hasn't changed from the other 75s but
[00:05:29] everything else has and it's gotten it gets significantly heavier we're going to weigh a bunch of these in a little bit and you'll get to see and it flies heavy like there there's no
[00:05:38] mistaking the extra weight but it handles it really well the the bigger props these 1102 22,000 KV Motors the package really really really works well together so that's what
[00:05:52] we're going to talk about tonight my friends I've still got these flight files playing Northern Tier was first in the chat not applicable was next Curtis Hayes Andrew Taylor Douglas 6 JP spin
[00:06:04] Cloud Hopper safe Zone Tim's notice JP spin rander davs mcmas Andrew Taylor low Rolland Groove Kevin James cxb FPV CA 1973 Cloud Hopper render notice Paulie new Andrew Taylor skull 901
[00:06:21] Scotty Scott Dave S Bren Anderson sleepy CBR Zoe 101 demo FPV Fusion Catalyst Josh s County FPV what's up everybody thanks for coming welcome to whoop Wednesday my friends head on over to
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[00:07:44] of time maybe not that long in the chat if you want to talk directly to me all you got to do is type cfpv there he is oh my god dog easy tried to grab me just freaked the
[00:07:58] [@$#%] out type CiottiFPV into your comments in the chat and it'll light up an orange or do a super chat we are trying the hglrc Spectre one to 2S AIO and I'm
[00:08:16] going to test it and beat the [@$#%] out of it and probably destroy it for you beautiful people and then we'll all know together MCM says stuck in the chicken Co-op no he put a [@$#%] you he put a dash in
[00:08:28] there hey types co- op that's Co-op that's not Coupe that's Co-op stuck in the chicken Coupe cleaning the chicken poop I should be ripping my tiny whoop for tyrant's whoop
[00:08:41] boot it was a dad joke in the end Cloud Hopper says Black Market FPV has 2g4 Mobula 6es in stock 106 bucks no batteries there you guys go get you a 2g4 what fuzzy dog what do you want why do
[00:08:58] you run away like this why run I I I pick you up and I hold you up to the camera I don't beat you you were a spoiled ass son of a [@$#%] aren't you come
[00:09:14] here come to me come hither come say hi to the internet dog no he escaped my grasp again oh now he thinks it's a game oh [@$#%] [@$#%] what have I
[00:09:35] done oh you guys only got one driveby he went he went upstairs on that on that last driveby good call Cloud Hopper thanks for letting the people know render says I have the same 75mm pro at home and it's
[00:09:55] honestly stupid how smooth and responsive it is LOL I'm really surprised I'm really really really surprised and it did not take very much to get it like absolutely dialed
[00:10:07] so we're going to dive into it watch some footage I already played some footage at the intro to the stream I got some more to play for you ccbr says what's up CV and gangly gang what's up
[00:10:16] homie Fusion Catalyst says it's 85mm s not 75 really I'll be damned they they lied they're supposed to change the name to meteor 80 Pro then those donkeys looks like you're
[00:10:36] right what the hell BetaFPV that's that word that's that word bait and switch it's a bait and switch get your money back guys good luck with that in China
[00:10:53] uh China China [@$#%] piece of [@$#%] goddamn Nazis walking Among Us cmk says Hot Boy Summer what's up homie kinetic says are you going to start recommending the a75 no especially because I haven't
[00:11:11] flown one yet the I mean here's what I can probably say though if you want a 75mm rig and you don't want to upgrade it the air 75 much like the air 65 is probably a great
[00:11:29] bat I can't specifically speak to it because I haven't flown it but well hold on let me see BetaFPV air 75 let me make sure that the motors aren't dumb so what do you got what did you put on
[00:11:54] here 802 23,000 KV motor well could be worse it would really be nice if that was like a 25,000 KV but something that we're learning is that BetaFPV Motors are underrated I'd mistakenly
[00:12:19] said last stream and the stream before that HappyModel Motors are overrated they actually turn a lower KV than what is stand on the Bell as it turns out HappyModel are the ones that are right
[00:12:36] look here here's let me preface all this with it kind of doesn't matter sort of HappyModel makes the the motors that are the most efficient and the most powerful and
[00:12:48] so get HappyModel Motors and if you want more KV and more power get the higher KV Motors if you want less power and more runtime get the lower KV Motors cool the problem with all of this
[00:13:05] is if you want to try to compare a BetaFPV motor to a HappyModel motor and you're if you use the the KV values that are stamped on the Bell that's going to be a problem whether the HappyModel
[00:13:20] Motors are overrated and the BetaFPV Motors are dead on you can also substitute me saying BetaFPV here with VCI and a couple of the other companies it doesn't really matter as much
[00:13:32] who's right and who's wrong here but it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas it's beginning to look a lot like HappyModel is right and everybody else's is wrong my
[00:13:48] testing and Chris rosser's testing shows that HappyModel is the HappyModel Motors are much lower KV than what's stamped on the Bell we are not measuring KV the way that you're
[00:14:05] supposed to but there's a whole bunch of different ways you can kind of measure KV but regardless this here by Stephen Merill on Facebook I'm going to drop a link into the chat here for you
[00:14:18] beautiful bastards Stephen Marl Merill is testing the KV the right way who who's to say if this is the right way or not this is certainly the way to test it with the most expensive gear so you know
[00:14:36] that's probably the right way and so the the way that he's testing it with an oscilloscope he's showing that the HappyModel 723000 are coming in at 3,120 KV he is also
[00:14:55] tested he has also tested and then look and then look BetaFPV 20,000 sorry 27,000 KV is actually coming in at 32,00 273 KV HappyModel 26,000 KV is coming in at
[00:15:13] 2,740 KV look HappyModel is absolutely slaying with their Motors so I don't know maybe they're right th this this doesn't necessarily surprise me that these numbers are correct that the happy
[00:15:29] Motors are doing so well in this testing because like look HappyModel has made more of these motors and their Motors constantly give you more power and more efficiency both of those things
[00:15:41] it's ridiculous and so I don't know just maybe the company that's making the best tiny whoop Motors also H have they're dialing their Motors in properly in terms of the KV ratings all that
[00:15:56] being said like I said a minute ago it doesn't matter the the if you you if if you're buying any other motor than HappyModel you're going to get something that's either not as efficient or
[00:16:11] not as powerful but it's kind of both like for the amount of power that they have they won't be as efficient and so it sort of doesn't matter until one of these other companies starts making a
[00:16:24] motor that can compete with HappyModel buy HappyModel Motors and if you want more power than their 30,000 KV buy their 32,000 KV right like you don't know sitting here exactly the right KV
[00:16:41] for the amount of power that you want you don't because you haven't flown every single motor and so you're going to have to guess anyway so look like if you want a 702 with a bunch of power get
[00:16:53] the 36,000 KV from Tiny whoop.com and then if it's too much power you can motor limit's down if you want motors with like a medium amount of power get the 30 or the 32,000 if it's
[00:17:06] too much you can scale it down if you want all the power in the universe get the 40,000 from Weeble right 32,000 you can also get from weeed so it's kind of doesn't matter but it
[00:17:20] does because you buy a BetaFPV aiio sorry BNF and it comes with a set of Motors it let's say it comes with a set of 0702 28,000 and you decide like all right I'm
[00:17:34] going to change the frame and I'm going to change the motor over to HappyModel if you want that same amount of power you you can't buy a HappyModel 28,000 you actually have to buy a happy
[00:17:46] model 32,000 from Weeble because because BetaFPV is grossly understating the the amount of KV that the motor actually makes so so it's super annoying
[00:18:01] but for the most part just buy HappyModel Motors and then whatever the a HappyModel 30,000 KV versus a 32,000 KV they're they're correct the 32,000 KV is going to make a little bit more power
[00:18:16] than the 30 it's this isn't the end of the world because like what we're not seeing is like a HappyModel 26,000 making more power than a 30 than a HappyModel 30,000 right like the HappyModel
[00:18:29] Motors line up perfectly the KV goes up the power goes up the RPM goes up it is as expected and so if you're getting something other than HappyModel you're on your own and but what I can tell
[00:18:43] you is that with a lot of the testing it looks like everybody is understate is is underrating their Motors so pretty much all the other motor manufacturers the number that's on the
[00:18:56] Bell you're going to get more Power and less efficiency than what that says or you can flip it and say that HappyModel is overrating their Motors and when you buy a HappyModel motor
[00:19:11] you're going to get less KV than what is stamped on the Belt it doesn't really matter those two things say the same exact thing but there you guys go I gave you the link to that post I'm
[00:19:22] going to close that tab now so the air 75 has a good set of Motors on it's going to be really good I I wish those were a little bit higher KV but it's a lightweight rig
[00:19:34] and them being 25 23,000 KB I think it says they're probably actually going to make the power of like a 25 or a 26 in HappyModel world and that's actually really nice so the air 75 is probably
[00:19:47] really really good I don't recommend you upgrade it though because it is direct soldered motors which is a total pain in the ass they use an external receiver setup their camera and canopy are pretty
[00:20:03] much the light almost the lightest setup available it's so light that like you don't really have to worry about it so the air 75 is a great rig to just fly the mobula
[00:20:15] 71s elrs is the rig is the 75 rig that you're going to buy if you want to upgrade if you want to change Motors because you're probably going to have to because the motors that comes with are
[00:20:25] too low of a KV the the X12 AIO is is really stuck in that frame but luckily the Mobula 7 1S frame is awesome I'm sorry Mobula 7 V4 frame is awesome and then the camera and canopy it comes
[00:20:42] with are Ultra lightweight as well so it's but you obviously could upgrade them so there you go if you want to buy a 75 that you're going to upgrade I still think the mbula 71s is
[00:20:55] the best bet if you want one just to fly around meteor 75 air or this the meteor 75 Pro I'm actually pretty shocked by this if you want something as more of an outdoor and indoor kind of
[00:21:13] rig meteor 75 air if you want more outdoor maybe it can still do in it can still fly indoor but more outdoor than indoor meteor 75 Pro is going to be good for
[00:21:30] that or strictly outdoor you could you could maybe say that this is strictly for outside and so let me get caught up on chat and then we will dive into this thing look at what I did to
[00:21:42] the tune talk about the upgrade path and we'll even fly it around in the house and see if I can not kill everything in sight it's awful heavy to be this is the last time I'm going to
[00:21:56] fly this thing around in the house because I'm really tempting fate like the the weight that this thing is when you crash into your personal belongings it hits hard and I don't need to be breaking
[00:22:09] [@$#%] so again this is really this is an outdoor tiny whoop and we'll talk about the negatives too of this guy hold on render says that extra 5 m is pro that's actually the title of my
[00:22:32] sex tape Striker says I remember your simple tuning guide but I don't remember the thing the thing what's the thing tuning in 2024 is just either moving the master multiplier up until the Quad starts
[00:22:49] acting or sounding funny and then backing it off a little bit if you're if that's too simple for you you grab the very first D gain slider you move it from 1.0 up to 1.2
[00:23:01] fly it make sure all is well then you move it to 1.3 and you take the second slider p and I you move that up to 1.1 fly it make sure it's cool I don't need that [@$#%] to be
[00:23:18] on every single night this is silly what alarm is that that's my 10:30 alarm edit every day no not every day we're going to turn that off Wednesdays and Mondays because I'm streaming when that goes off
[00:23:35] there we go still reminding myself to edit every day just not while I'm doing something else and then you keep that ratio and you just keep sorry the ratio is like this
[00:23:47] 1.3 1.1 top two SL top two sliders 1.5 1.3 1.7 1.5 1.9 1.7 and up you go at some point it'll start acting funny back it off a little bit away you go your tune is
[00:24:04] perfect brand Anderson says explains the 80 mimer frames remember you got one 82 right the the Newbie drone the Newbie drone cockroach 82 kinetic says pyro also has 2g4
[00:24:26] wow they really still have them in stock pyro still has 2g4 Mobula 6es in stock 102 bucks 19,000 KV version hang on to those Motors and then you can put them onto a 2S rig Curtis hay says WTF
[00:24:41] calling people Nazis he says you're losing some of your subscribers with recent name calling right that's fine it's fine I have always wanted to punch a Nazi but
[00:24:52] I probably won't get a chance to so this is me e- punching a Nazi JP spin says my looks like a weed whacker after running about 25 batteries a day in my yard I've replaced the props a few times but
[00:25:04] this little guy just takes it if you want to get the green off the easiest way I've found is to take just a little bit of rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip and then just run it around inside the
[00:25:14] Ducks it'll just melt most of that grass out it's good works really really well flyzone says Josh s says I have several crazy b1s light boards and OG BetaFPV 1S boards but they are FR Sky
[00:25:30] d8 I do have a 4 in one I can use them on my elrs box or should I just go ahead and use them I mean the the old school free Sky stuff it totally works like yes
[00:25:45] there's 10 milliseconds more latency yes there's significantly less range but like for flying in the house outside the house it's not bad at all it's totally flyable one of the really
[00:26:01] nice things about using ancient transmitters is that free sky is on here forever so that's one of the few things good about running the old transmitters but man use
[00:26:14] them use them they'll they'll totally work they will hone your skills almost as good as I mean trying to think if it'll if it's you'll be flying with more latency so
[00:26:31] you'll have to work a little bit harder but in reality like you'll just crash more what I was going to say is it'll be like swing with a weighted bat because it's won't be as good but I don't
[00:26:41] necessarily think so you'll technically have to work harder because you'll have to be quicker but that you'll just crash more that's just going to cause you to crash more so
[00:26:56] no no Curtis says render I've had people contact me via DM about how CV is alienating them by King people Nazis that voted for one of the president's candidates can't believe he's bring
[00:27:09] politics into this look man I can do what I want this is my [@$#%] live stream and the the a person went on live TV and said I will make it so that you don't have to vote anymore that is
[00:27:21] unacceptable let alone the thousands of other things that the piece of [@$#%] has done that are completely unreasonable and so yes I'm going to call him a Nazi I will forever call him a Nazi because
[00:27:31] he is a Nazi sorry if you don't then that's your issue not mine not liking someone calling a Nazi a Nazi is your problem not mine so get away from the the Nazi stop being pro-nazi like
[00:27:48] it's really important okay ask anybody that never mind never mind but I will bring politics into this live stream when I [@$#%] damn well please cuz this is mine this is not your guys you can give
[00:28:02] me feedback all you want but this is bigger than this live stream like us electing that person will destroy all of our ways of life and probably plunge this country into literal Fascism and
[00:28:18] that's not okay all right so I don't give a [@$#%] I don't give a [@$#%] how many people I lose because I'm calling a Nazi a Nazi straight up there are things that are more important than subscriber
[00:28:31] counts and one of them is us not putting a Nazi in charge of America again like have we did we honestly not learn the first time Jesus Christ come on chick with a stick says your hair
[00:28:48] makes me eggplant thank you very much Striker says I said something earlier about the spacing between p Pi gain and Dain that was the thing like. 2 to3 is is a good it's kind
[00:29:05] of salt to taste I like a lot of Dain it makes the Quad feel very I mean damped but that's kind of what d stands for it really it gives the the it gives the r I I once
[00:29:20] heard it explained as it makes the the quad fly it's underwater and what's funny is somebody was saying that like in a bad way about Dain I that's actually the thing that I like most
[00:29:33] about what extra Dain flies like also degain is what handles prop wash and bounceback and those little like jutters that you'll get every once in a while when you stab the throttle and so
[00:29:46] pushing the Dain up3 higher than everything else in the sliders it just works really really well it makes it attack those bad behaviors more and it also makes the flight footage
[00:30:02] just kind of look more buttery so ster also says I wanted to know about the tuning thing because my 802 25,000 finally got here and I'm finally in the air again hell man very cool
[00:30:14] Curtis hay says I've looked everywhere for Mobula 8 stack screws even tiny whoop said they don't know what they use do where to find some race day quads used to have
[00:30:26] them but I think think I remember them going out of stock and they weren't under Mobula 8 they were under mobula 7 I want to say there it is so I think this is what you're talking about so the it
[00:30:46] doesn't it doesn't look like it well here's how you can tell right so these posts are extra long on this Frame and so the the screws are extra long to meet up with those these do not
[00:31:01] look longer but they do look at the look at the blank area here this threaded area is the normal screw length but then they also have this blanked out area so these are the longer screws here
[00:31:14] and it looks like they are in stock $1.99 for you at some point I had at some point I bought a few extra packs of these so that if you guys needed them I could send them to you but I think
[00:31:25] I've sent them all out by now strager says I don't hate the meteor 65 Pro as much as I thought I would but once I get the 75mm framing I'm going to go crazy very cool
[00:31:44] scrolling back up strier says I'm surprised the five amp can handle those 45mm Tri blades on the 1102s do you think it'd be better on a 10 amp or 12 amp for sure we
[00:32:01] saw that in the in the testing well we saw it with a 2g4 I I have not we can test it we can test it let's let's test I think we can see it I I I think be able to see the
[00:32:30] RPM come down the second that I spin the motor up what were we doing the testing with we were doing it with the GemFan props right all right so in in all right so we're going to test
[00:32:51] this on motor one and I'm going to put it onto the exact same prop that we were testing oh what am I doing it's a 1.5 there we go all right so let's see let me get
[00:33:11] the power supply set set up back together here hang on I'm actually super interested in this sorry to like derail the live stream but I'm actually really really interested if
[00:33:24] there's any difference between the 2g4 and the BetaFPV 5 amp so I'm setting the power supply on four amps just like I did last time let me just make sure that the
[00:33:40] leads aren't touching each other okay all right four amps of output hook this up we're going to go to the motors tab Wang it up to 100% And then we'll look we got to look really
[00:33:57] quick quickly at whether or not the the RPM shoot up and then come down that was what was what was happening on this same set of motors with the 1610
[00:34:12] byblade let's do it there's BetaFlight beater flight all right Motors tab let's get this plugged in all right so this is the exact same scenario as we had
[00:34:37] before fire up motor one and then we're going to take a look at the RPMs so you're looking right here guys you're looking for this number to go up and then come back down hopefully it well
[00:34:49] we'll see let me make sure that this thing is spinning properly first it is indeed all right so here we go nah look at that it's staying up at 53,000 let's try it
[00:35:04] again yep it stays up at 53 that's pretty cool let me see how that compares to the sheet on the sheet with this same propeller BetaFPV 1102 22,000 look at that 52,000 so the
[00:35:24] 2g4 could only spin this propeller up to 52,000 on the BetaFPV AO it spins it up to 53 but more importantly it holds it there it spins it up to 53 and then it stays there
[00:35:45] so either the 2g4 I was using wait a second no no no no no the 52,000 would have been from the X12 I think I think I would have retested on the X12
[00:36:08] so that's interesting I didn't expect that I would assume that they all use the same fets but maybe not I mean who's to say let me look I don't really know I don't know the different chips well
[00:36:27] enough to know well no that's pretty obvious here hold on let me see maybe there's maybe there's writing on the fets that I can read oh there is somebody typed this into chat for
[00:36:43] me 3 AAA 33w 3 AAA 3 3 3 W is that a three that's a three oh no that's e e eew eew 3 aaae eew that's on the BetaFPV one here's the 2g4 that be damn they are different e
[00:37:22] w o r a holy [@$#%] okay why would they be using different fets e e w o r a huh I won't be able to see the well I might be able to see hold on let me see what fets the X12 uses wow those are
[00:37:45] going to be totally different those are going to be totally different because they're 12 amp but just for the sake of looking this is the oh wait a
[00:38:09] second what is this the X12 now this is another 2g4 this 2g4 has fets that say eew o XA is that another a hard to see eew two A's o xaa what the hell why do these all have
[00:38:41] different numbers on them here's the X12 X12 fets say where the hell are the X12 fets e wow the X12 fets are way bigger and they've got all kinds of [@$#%] stamped on them z32
[00:39:11] two waaa w25 a wow they are like triple the size that's incredible no wonder the X12 is oversized those are giant fat that's got to be them there's no fets on the top interesting
[00:39:34] completely different completely different fets on each one of these I didn't expect that but that's really good news that the that the BetaFPV AIO is able to hold that RPM steady that that would
[00:39:57] make sense because this thing makes really good power and I feel like when I had the when I had the these big ass Motors on the 2g4 it did not it did not feel as good as this
[00:40:17] so that's pretty cool damn why are there so many different fats on there that's I expect that interesting that makes makes testing this stuff that much more impossible
[00:40:31] great where we at in Chad here Trier says no we got that monkey dluffy says I agree with SE Johnny then says can we get a rant about how dance has been instead of politics it's been really really good
[00:40:52] if if if you want look first all first off if if you're single look men if you are single get your [@$#%] ass to dance classes you will meet very cool women there
[00:41:12] and like women that are willing to move their bodies and dance with like weird dudes and it's just it's a really good spot to meet women I I I wish back in my single days I'd
[00:41:26] known this one one simple thing that could make meeting women a lot easier it's way better than like going to a bar it's a way better it's a great way of meeting
[00:41:40] women it's also a great way of meeting other people that are willing to like leave the house and do [@$#%] I've met some really really really cool people in this world over the last
[00:41:51] like four or five months you will start moving your body which is awesome for folks that don't have like an established workout routine so that's huge it's forces you and and
[00:42:09] you'll get tired and you'll get slightly in slightly better shape and it might even become like the thing that makes you want to work out a little bit because like I don't know for me it's
[00:42:20] always that like the times in my life that I've been in good shape it's because I've had a thing that I've enjoyed doing that either forces me to move my body or I want to do a better
[00:42:35] job at it so I want to get my body to work better what I'm saying like I can't I can't just work out for the sake of working out I hate it I absolutely hate it I hate every second
[00:42:48] of working out and so there has to be like a clearly defined goal like I have to be doing it so that I get better at this other thing that I'm doing that I enjoy if you have a
[00:43:06] partner dance is such it's is like you're going to learn how to talk to the other person like with your body language and with like without words and you're going to look into their eyes and you're going
[00:43:23] to laugh and you're going to make mistakes together and it's going to be difficult and some stuff is going to be really hard for your partner some stuff is going to be really hard
[00:43:33] for you and you're going to be there for them when they're [@$#%] up and they're going to be there for you when you can't get it right and I it's you see people
[00:43:45] dance in everywhere right all over TV and movies and everything and I I just didn't realize what and you think it's just like a phys physical thing it's just like oh you just have to
[00:43:59] move your body around that way it's not like it is it is very mental and you there are like all these things that your body can do that like you haven't told it to do and you'll start to
[00:44:12] do that stuff and you'll be like wow that's pretty rad and then like there's these muscles that you haven't turned on in forever and they'll be sore and then it's just like oh well that's cool too
[00:44:21] it's really really really cool from like a self-confidence perspective it's mindblowing like how often are you like in this awkward like whatever maybe
[00:44:35] there's music on maybe you're whatever just hanging out at somebody's place maybe there's not music on and you just [@$#%] feel awkward just standing there in your own body well guess what dancers
[00:44:45] don't feel awkward standing in their own body like a lot of what you're doing to learn how to dance is just becoming more comfortable in this [@$#%] meat sack that you walk around in every day right
[00:44:56] so like from this self-confidence confidence piece it's Mega and if you're in a room of people and there's a person in that room that is like good at dancing that's one
[00:45:11] of the coolest people in that room room regardless and so I don't know I want to be the coolest person in the room for a change I'm sick of being the [@$#%] nerd in the room I'm sick of feeling
[00:45:19] like the least cool person in every single room that I go into so I don't know it's pretty cool it's I I I've I I've for forever when there would be situ like
[00:45:37] look I I I've been a musician forever so I've always felt music very deeply and if you put some drums in front of me I'm totally comfortable and I'm like in and I'm like on and I'm in
[00:45:52] the moment and I'm living my best life you take those [@$#%] drums away from me and it was always like like God forbid there's other people dancing then it's just
[00:46:04] like I look so dumb and this goes ahead and takes care of that so I don't know if if if you connect with any of that stuff just go do it look man there's there are things in life that
[00:46:20] are so much harder than than learning to dance it ain't easy though you're going to feel like an [@$#%] but man is it a is it a good chance to force yourself out of your comfort zone and do
[00:46:33] something difficult and move your [@$#%] self around and meet other people that are the like look you go to a beginner dance CL class everybody there is a beginner everybody there
[00:46:43] sucks as bad as you do and that's awesome it's a bunch of people that are like willing to push themselves and want to learn this thing and is cool you are surrounded with your
[00:46:54] people today in this moment like those other people walked out the door to go to that dance class today and you're now there with them that's a bond that you will have with those people
[00:47:06] forever and it's rad you guys will dig it the the one of the hardest parts about dance is walking out the door to go to your first actual lesson once you've done that it's like well
[00:47:20] [@$#%] it I'll just go to another one I I'm not going to waste the $10 or the $5 on this one I might as well go to another one and then it's easy because like you learn a lot like you will doing
[00:47:30] like two or three dance classes you will learn enough to own a wedding next wedding you go to you will [@$#%] own you will be like the second best dancer there and you will be way more
[00:47:43] comfortable and you will have way more fun because you won't be like awkward what do I do with my hand it's just such a basic thing that like everybody should kind of know
[00:48:00] because like there's music all over the place and there are opportunities to like actually Dance all over the place that like you just stay the hell away from because like I don't know I'm not
[00:48:11] good at it and so do it there is is that ranty enough I wanted to really get into it to really get a get some passion going for a good [@$#%] off rant so Johnny then if you
[00:48:28] have any interest whatsoever in dance find a local beginners dance class doesn't matter what it is Tango salsa West Coast Swing east coast swing line dancing it doesn't matter go to a
[00:48:43] beginner dance class local to you and you might really dig it worst case scenario you moved your body around you got a little bit of exercise you met some cool people that were super
[00:48:54] uncomfortable as well and you being super uncomfortable made them a little bit more comfortable there there no there's nothing bad about going and checking it out go to a second
[00:49:06] one go to a third one I've definitely found that like the you learn a ton at the first one you learn a ton at the second one the third one that you go to you'll actually start to feel like
[00:49:22] you're kind of dancing the the first couple that you go to you're just doing the movements with your meat sack that the that the inst it's not any of this but like you can only see my upper half
[00:49:33] you're you're putting your feet where the instructor has told you you're if it's a if it's a coup's dance class you're interfacing with the other person the way that the instructor
[00:49:44] showed you how to put your hand here put your hand in their hand and so the first couple you're just like knocking out these really basic things by the third one you will be so much better
[00:49:55] because you've done that simple little like couple of hours of groundw work and then you can actually start to feel like you're doing something and you'll actually like start feel like start
[00:50:05] feeling like there's some progress and that's when it'll start to get kind of fun but don't just do one do at least two or three because the first one is rough for
[00:50:18] sure but if you if you find a class with like lots of beginners and a good instructor it's something that you might dig and might get you laid so do it because you want
[00:50:37] that JP spin says now I want a Ciotti wig to troll what's that mean Curtis say says exactly what I needed thank you you're certainly welcome Striker says 1S 5 amp cross AO testing would go
[00:50:50] hard I might if given the opportunity I will certainly fire up a couple of Motors with my little setup on on the on the BetaFPV 5 amp the fact that we got 1,000 of
[00:51:09] 1,000 extra RPM over the X12 it's interesting not interesting enough to like drop everything and go bananas but like next time I'm perfect example for you perfect
[00:51:28] example I've got a meteor 65 Pro here that is going to get torn apart and so when I tear this apart and take the motors off of it I will slam four 70 72s on here and we'll put the 1210 props on
[00:51:45] it and we'll fire it up in BetaFlight and see how the numbers line up with the 2g4 that we were testing so that's coming up don't don't think I'm going to do
[00:52:02] this with every a though for the record but I I look the the reason I was willing to go down the the the spreadsheet rabbit hole with this is that I knew good and godamn I didn't
[00:52:13] want to do this this is this is torture for me but I knew that having this data would benefit me and you guys like I I I knew that having this data
[00:52:27] in in that like you can kind of do it's going to be hard to nail this exact voltage without an adjustable power supply like but you can technically do this testing with batteries if you get
[00:52:42] the voltage just right on the battery and you get the battery to Sag down with the 1210 prop to 3.8 volts that's really what it's going to be about but that's not all that difficult you fire
[00:52:54] the motor up with the prop on in BetaFlight and right above the RPM number is the voltage number so you'll just have to do a little bit of screwing around to figure out what you need to do to get
[00:53:07] the battery to Sag down to 3.8 volts when you read that RPM my guess is you'll want a battery that's at like 4.1 volts would be my guess I think if you've got and you can like
[00:53:23] screw around with different battery sizes right like a 450mah battery is going to be easier and it's going to stay at 3.8 Volts for longer than a little 300 right a little 300 you're
[00:53:36] going to do test like one or two Motors and then this little battery is going to be dropping down to like 3.75 3.7 volts and that's not enough that's going to throw off the results and so the
[00:53:48] the bigger the BT 2.0 battery that you've got the better and you can kind of see how your [@$#%] Stacks up against this I have put this here I'm going to put this Link in chat there's a
[00:54:04] link to this motor torque production spreadsheet I I got to call this spreadsheet something different I'm going to call this spread sheet tiny whoop
[00:54:17] RPM testing that makes a little bit more sense tiny whoop RPM testing I think it's about right jmo says getting a WalkSnail vrx this week can you recommend literally
[00:54:32] any BNF WalkSnail cop that's capable of carrying a GoPro 11 mini can you recommend any well isn't there something where there are no more WalkSnail BNF's didn't walks
[00:54:50] snail stop sending their stuff to companies to put them into BNF's just Mo if here's the deal if I make a suggestion based on the tiny little bit practically no information that you've
[00:55:08] given me here all that recommendation is going to be is me telling you like what I like and you're different you're a different person you're a different pilot you have different specs I
[00:55:21] don't know if you're flying around people I don't know what kind of runtime you need there are just so many questions that I would need to really give you a recommendation
[00:55:32] right now all I can say is to look at look at what's available there's probably not going to be a whole hell of a lot available and then once what's available that is buy and fly has
[00:55:46] walks snail and you're going to be definitely well I mean not definitely but I don't know if you're looking for something that's 2 and2 inch 3 and2 in 3 in whatever
[00:55:56] but when you find those then you can search the name of that BNF here on YouTube and there will be a bunch of people a bunch of reviewers that have been that have reviewed
[00:56:07] them look for reviewers that fly them in their review and in my opinion try to find a reviewer that when they're flying it they're better than you are I always want if if I'm going to take
[00:56:21] somebody at their somebody's recommendations somebody telling me about what it flies like like if they're not a very good pilot I I I really question like what those words
[00:56:32] mean like there's look the placebo is really strong and so in order to get around the placebo you have to be really good and you have to be like better than you would think to be able to like notice
[00:56:46] the subtleties and actually be able to put that Placebo aside and really tell what's going on with the rig and so for me look for a reviewer that's like a properly Good Pilot and
[00:56:59] there you go Alan lman with a $20 Super generous super chat but then he retracted they retracted his comment and I don't have a way of undoing that that's a shame Alan thank
[00:57:12] you so much Allan I'm gonna assume that your comment wasseti this is for the this is for the hdlc might not catch fire fund so I'm going to put it on in here thank you so much dude very very
[00:57:26] generous of you there we go hglrc Spectre AIO we're on our way thank you Alan super super generous kinetic says is the 2g4 without the mpu 6000 still good yep it sure is just
[00:57:44] Mo bunch of retracted messages here I can see these though oh wait no I can't I guess I can't retract them that's what it is when you guys retract your comments I can't see them it's when other
[00:57:58] moderators hide your comments that I can unhide them Zoe 101 says what fets do the BetaFPV air aios use that is a good question I'm kind of curious myself and it's not all that difficult
[00:58:18] to take a look let's see ah [@$#%] I don't have to do that H I didn't have to do that all I had to do was this this this is in here isn't it yep there it is all right let's take
[00:58:39] a look beta 65 air uses e another different yet again e eew 4 D like David a like apple a like apple e e Ernie Ernie Wisconsin four Delta Al alpha
[00:59:10] alpha wny do why is it every single Why does every single AO have different numbers stamped on the fets that's wild has anybody been Googling these numbers as I've been telling them
[00:59:25] to you the these should come up like if you put these if you put fet and then fine I'll do it eew 4 d AA eew look W4 da AA fet and it'll come up see there you go Reddit of
[00:59:52] course Reddit but NASA what no that's not it oh that's not actually it but sometimes it'll come up I guess this one's not coming up if you tried hard enough no no no no no I did not mean
[01:00:11] feet usually it'll come up sometimes it won't apparently poor a little meteor 65 air got all wet from the dog bowl and committed suicide poor little
[01:00:30] fella low roll and groove now that's a YouTube name says the 2g4 that I'm working with right now has ew2 PA AA not sure what the different letter means me
[01:00:46] either let's Google them real quick ew PA AA fat Lovelier microphone Set what if we just search for eew Fett ah here we go there's that Reddit post again but this
[01:01:12] is kind of getting us closer maybe I don't know if you're so inclined you can go deep pretty deep down that rabbit hole I'll bet but I ain't in I ain't into it sleepy CBR says I super chatted
[01:01:25] 20 bucks for the hdrc fund but I posted under my human name so I removed it thank you very much for that sleepy CBR I didn't realize that was you oh yes I did yes I did yes I did yes
[01:01:38] I did yes I did yes I did yes I did thank you so much homie very cool of you I can't believe I guessed it right I can white hands [@$#%] down hands down the best YouTube name I've seen
[01:02:00] maybe this year maybe this [@$#%] year definitely this month white powder x white P wde capital r lowercase x that's awesome white powder says you've always been the coolest guy in the room
[01:02:21] since I've known you air quotes thank you dude just Mo says I've been watching the planet of the ape series for the past five hours thank thank God see if you went live or I I would have un
[01:02:32] unived myself genuinely in game Co power says excellent [@$#%] off rant Top Notch thank you dude cronic nugget says I'm still trying to figure out why my battery voltage
[01:02:45] fluctuates so much at constant throttle the amp draw can change as much as 3 amps and my voltage changes constantly as much as .5 volts at constant throttle the only
[01:03:02] thing let me let me take a guess chronic nugget you're flying outside when that's happening aren't you let me take another guess you live somewhere that's windy don't you I could be
[01:03:14] totally off but you guys see what I'm getting at here the pit Loop is constantly doing its thing 4,000 or 8,000 or 3,000 times a second the gyro is sending data into the pit Loop
[01:03:28] and then the pit Loop is figuring [@$#%] out to try to fix the any little weird movements that are happening from the wind hitting the quad tiny whoops with these big ducts on them they're
[01:03:40] going to get affected quite a bit so a tiny whoop just cruising along if you're outside I can totally see the amps and the voltage moving all around because you've got a terrible look at how bad
[01:03:51] this aerodynamic situation is right like imagine this and then there's like wind coming in from the side from the front from the left from the right if that's happening inside your house and
[01:04:03] you don't have like some weird big vent system in the house that's creating a bunch of moving air then I would be then I would be a little bit more concerned it's probably still the pit
[01:04:19] Loop though it's if it's doing it in the house so turn your turn your HVAC system off and then fly around the house and see if you can get it to do it or not do it if the problem goes away there
[01:04:31] you go if it's still doing it the only thing that I can think is that your pit tune is like at the razor's Edge and anything is causing it to happen even at like a constant
[01:04:44] throttle like even at a constant throttle there's going to be a little bit of variation and if it just happens to like if if the RPMs just happen come up a little bit to where there's some weird
[01:04:58] resonant frequency that'll then feed into the pit Loop and then that'll make it make this make it come maybe like do that and ramp up the motors a little bit and then bring the motors back down
[01:05:08] so I just hit you with a bunch of stuff hopefully some of that makes sense but I bet you you're flying outside when that's happening that's going to be my guess Kevin summer
[01:05:19] says two weeks to castle crash oh my God is it really only two week weeks Jesus there there you go friends get your tickets before they're gone chronic what's the Kevin can you drop the
[01:05:30] link to the website in the chat chronic nugget says I'm flying outside I told you but it's not super windy around me doesn't matter if there's any wind and if it's a tiny Whoop That is your
[01:05:40] problem I'll bet it doesn't happen to my other quads oh okay it doesn't happen to my other quads which is why it puzzles me so much it's a oh okay it's a 3in running those 1 156s all right well
[01:05:52] look those 1 156s are super super notchy and that's going to put a bunch of vibrations into the frame here's how you you troubleshoot this chronic take your take your master multiplier wherever it
[01:06:06] is and move it if it's at 1.0 move your master multiplier to 0.5 if it's at 1.5 move it to 1.0 move your master multiplier down a shitload and then go fly around and see if it changes
[01:06:22] anything alternatively take your filter sliders and move them if your filters are really aggressive make them a lot less aggressive if your filters are not very aggressive make
[01:06:36] them much more aggressive move them a bunch in One Direction or the other and see if that changes the behavior by making the pit Loop more or less active and making the filters more aggressive
[01:06:50] or less aggressive we're going to start to figure out what the hell's going on my guess is that those 1 156s are so notchy and vibr that they're putting a bunch of Vibes into that build and
[01:07:04] that's just making the pit Loop like like super nervous and that those vibrations are happening all the time because the motor is always on I bet you if you went to a different motor the
[01:07:17] problem would go away I had a really tough time with those 1 156s they are a super aggressive like Razor's Edge kind of motor and I think that's what what you got going on there chronic says I
[01:07:32] haven't really messed with the tun much so it's still stock I'll play with it though that's what she said they make so much power versus the 1804s I might motor limit them motor liming them
[01:07:44] might help actually because it'll take the top amount of power out of the pit Loop so in addition try motor limiting them they make an absolutely absurd amount of power to the point where
[01:08:04] like there aren't many VI batteries that cannot melt in the face of those 1 156s these are RC and power 1506 that we're talking about it's actually an old school motor that I rode off a long
[01:08:17] time ago because of issues like this but I am kind of sort of interested in and look they're a somewhat lightweight motor with a 3mm motor shaft and M5 prop mounting and that is very rare and very
[01:08:37] interesting so I'm and I haven't tested them in like five or six years probably and so maybe now with RPM filtering with the the better Dynamic filtering with all
[01:08:51] the new [@$#%] in the new versions of BetaFlight maybe we can tame those Motors down but it's still going to be hard like there there's still going to be a pain in the ass of those Motors I
[01:09:01] am caught up on chat so we're going to talk about the meteor 75 Pro a bunch more the flight footage that you watched at the beginning of this live stream was the seventh battery that I flew I
[01:09:15] flew two batteries two batteries two batteries one last battery I think that's what I did and I'm going to play some some of that flight footage now for
[01:09:29] you oh man these are all this I changed from MP4 over to Ts for transport stream and I don't really like it much the transport streams are nice because if you accidentally end the file it
[01:09:49] doesn't grenade the entire file but the transport streams kind of suck because I can't look at a preview the preview just shows only the audio which is extra annoying so I'm G
[01:10:10] to have to just count backwards here so we've got 75 Pro and then 75 that's a garbage file because it's only 14 Megs so I can get rid of that one 75 Pro
[01:10:30] 75 that's a garbage file too small this is another garbage file too small another garbage file what the hell there we go there's a full file so 75 Pro 75 75 what's this going to
[01:10:52] be 141 Megs what the hell what's 141 Meg flight file 50 seconds why did it stop oh I brought it back inside okay so that's garbage 63 how big are you 584 there we go so this is probably let me open
[01:11:13] this one up okay so here's the I guess I didn't fly two batteries on the 75s I must have just FL in one all right so there's this then there's it there we go there we okay all right so
[01:11:27] here you go so this is the this is the first or second battery that I flew on the 75 Pro this is a good one this is a great this is how you should start this is how you should always
[01:11:41] start your day ready you wake up you go outside and you're like all right cool I'm G to fly this is going to be a great day here we go all right taking off contct and all right
[01:11:55] that's always how you want to start I got it out though no I didn't so here you go here is the meteor 75 Pro binding fly from BetaFPV this is what you're going to get in
[01:12:09] terms of camera quality VTX power I think I had this down on maybe 100 mows it's okay BetaFPV vtx's are never great they're never like the ABS abute worst but they're also never all that
[01:12:28] great so in terms of like an upgrade path for this BNF one of the things I would do pretty early on would be to swap it to a different VTX setup that is probably going to mean that you
[01:12:43] need no you won't need to change the canopy you can reuse the canopy you could technically just swap the VTX it's going to be kind of annoying because the the camera cables
[01:13:02] on this camera are the stupid shitty ones with the PVC installation but you could do it you could do it I would recommend I don't really love this camera either if if I was going to go
[01:13:15] through the the pain in the butt of swapping the VTX on this thing I would also take that as a chance to swap the canopy and the camera sketchy little crash there sketchy sketchy [@$#%] to do
[01:13:28] that up in the trees but whatever we got away with it that could have very easily been the end of this 75 Pro so that's one of the things that can definitely be improved about this the
[01:13:40] camera is okay the camera is not terrible the the VTX I think is is the the biggest weak point so at some point maybe swap the VTX out but I mean look this works we're flying around
[01:13:50] the house we're going up above the house we're going up in the trees when I went behind like three or four or five trees it's the the the video started to get really bad I don't know if that
[01:14:02] that's in this file or not we're looking at a 2 minute and 30 second run time I was nose down charging around pretty good on this battery the last battery that I
[01:14:14] flew the run time was a lot better I wasn't being as aggressive I wasn't covering as much ground basically runtime comes down to how much ground you cover if you're flying around
[01:14:26] really fast covering a lot of ground your runtime is going to come down significantly this is that last battery that we watched at the intro and we can see 3 minutes and 6 seconds so I
[01:14:35] was just I just wasn't jamming as much I I I I specifically for this last battery was like all right let me just chill out a little bit and not just like rail this thing back and forth across the yard at
[01:14:47] full speed over and over and over again because that's what really chews up batteries so but we're still moving around right like I'm weaving it out of trees and [@$#%] but I'm doing
[01:14:58] more I'm just flying slower really if if you fly fast it eats the battery if you fly slower it's a lot less hard on the battery also big elevation changes like this taking the amount of
[01:15:14] energy to get 30 40 50 feet up whatever it is to get to the tops of these trees that chews up a bunch of power but once I got up there I was just kind of chilling out I wasn't covering tons
[01:15:26] of ground at full speed and now even when I'm cruising I'm cruising a little bit slower on this battery so there you go there's a couple of flight files from the 75 Pro here comes a couple of
[01:15:40] flights on 75mm rigs that I have custom built and I'm going to get you some weights here in a second I can really I don't know if this is the 703 or the 803
[01:15:55] rig but I'll be able to tell you by the RPM that this thing shows when I disarm it so when it disarms it I'm going to try to take a look at the at the RPM that this thing is turning and then I'll be
[01:16:11] able to tell you which rig this is let me get a couple of weights for you cuz one of the things that you're going to notice is that these custombuilt 75mm rigs the flight footage looks a
[01:16:23] little bit different and it's mainly down to the weight there's a big difference in weight between these rigs so meteor 75 Pro BNF 31.2 gram dry no battery
[01:16:41] 31.2 one or the other of these 75mm rigs you're watching me fly right now is 22.4 gram and the other one is 25 gram have I armed yet so there you go there's the VTX just kind of falling on
[01:16:58] its face just back behind the house the the 2 G4S do not get that bad back behind the house not by a long shot so there's the weakness of the the BetaFPV external VTX it's okay it
[01:17:14] totally works it's just not great so there was a disarm let's see what the let's see what the RPM is come on right over here and there so 40,000 RPM that is almost certainly the 703 rig so
[01:17:33] what you're looking at right now is probably this rig that weighs 22.4 gram so 22.4 gr versus 31.2 massive difference in weight massive massive massive difference in weight but this guy has Motors and
[01:17:56] props that are big and pitchy enough that it can handle that weight does it feel drastically different flying it absolutely that extra weight makes it slide a bunch more when you try to
[01:18:10] change direction it won't want to it'll want to carry its momentum more just like in general when you move the sticks around the heavier rig is going to be a little bit slower to respond so it's
[01:18:22] it is flying a heavy rig in every sent to the word these little 75s are going to be much better for like indoor and outdoor much lighter they'll break less of your [@$#%] they're more
[01:18:34] reactive which will basically just you'll have quicker reaction times to try to avoid [@$#%] inside the house so here's a little bit more so this what you're looking at is a Mobula 7
[01:18:49] HappyModel Mobula 7 1S elrs with a motor swap also with bt2 2.0 added in and an ort antenna little bit of a better antenna here but these are VCI 0703 23,500 KV motors with oh
[01:19:06] here's the other big difference with the HQ 1.6 in ultral light by blades the meteor 75 Pro is on HQ 45 mm Tri blades these are 11 72 22,000 KV Motors big ass motor so give it a big
[01:19:29] ass propeller these are 0703 23,500 KV Motors so much less Stater volume but a little bit higher of a KV so the by blades also there is not I wish there was but there is not a
[01:19:47] triblade version of this HQ 1.6 in ultral light byblade so if there was I'd probably have that on here I would definitely have it on this other rig that we're going to take a look at
[01:19:58] flight time 3 minutes and 20 seconds coming up here battery is at like a little bit below 3.5 so you're going to get a little bit more runtime with these rigs go figure they're lighter weight
[01:20:11] and so there you go this this rig will carry around a 550mah battery though with how fat and heavy it is you can put a bigger battery on it these 75s they'll fly with the 550
[01:20:23] but the extra weight you can really feel if you want to screw around with bigger and smaller batteries 650 550 450 this will do it more power more weight so the the extra weight of a battery is not as
[01:20:37] much of a ding these guys that are lighter they're more sensitive to the weight of the battery changing but you don't need to run the bigger batteries you can get over three minutes on a 450
[01:20:47] on these guys so this next flight file is almost certainly going to be the 0803 the VCI 8 83 rig let's take a look so let me go back here and see if yesterday me remembered to give it a
[01:21:09] good Full Throttle blast and then land it so I can look at the RPM nope yesterday me did not remember that I can absolutely tell you that this is the 0803 rig so now you're getting to see
[01:21:21] really the the highest level of resp respon time and power and all the good stuff that I've been able to get from these 75mm rigs there you go 44,000 RPM on that so
[01:21:36] significantly higher and that's God knows if there's a Full Throttle blast in there to really let the motors wind up so what we're flying now what you're looking at now is a 25 gram
[01:21:51] same build Mobula 71s elrs with a motor Swap and BT 2.0 very simple also with an ort antenna and so I'll let this file play and then we will go back and I'll put on the the meteor 75
[01:22:07] profile last look at that look at it just oh man this thing flies so good on these 0802 this analog rig flies so good on these 82.8 27,000 KB Motors it's really ridiculous it's a shame that the walks
[01:22:22] snail rig that the the runtime becomes such a problem cuz these motors work so these are the best Motors on the WalkSnail ons builds but a minute and 50c of runtime and ruined 450 Mah
[01:22:39] batteries I I can't sign up for that and I don't want to sign you guys up for that either that's a bit much so here's me struggling eventually we'll figure it out so this is the
[01:22:56] this is the rig where motor number three the the the fets are starting to die on Channel 3 and so that's what you saw me struggling to get off the ground there but showing you
[01:23:08] there some like really big gentle movements man I just ran it right into the house there I just saw 46,000 RPM so these are the 083s even though this is lighter you can still do
[01:23:21] those like big gentle movements and whatnot and again these rigs are much lighter you could get away with flying them inside the house I'm just noticing there's a there's a bunch of canopy in
[01:23:33] view here on the left what the hell is that about why is that oh [@$#%] the the camera is not attached to anything how the hell that happened what happened here oh it fell wow it fell out
[01:23:54] of the screw can't say I've ever seen that before well that'll be a super easy fix there you guys go the the camera backed out so I was flying this thing with the camera like relatively
[01:24:13] sideways which makes it way harder to fly actually if you've ever flown well [@$#%] if you've ever flown a fractal frame you'll know good and well how hard it is to fly with a that's sitting
[01:24:25] sideways because their camera mount doesn't like locate the camera in any meaningful way and so you pretty much always fly with a camera that's not straight all right so hang on I got to get
[01:24:43] this move up a little bit get get into there I mean this should be an easy fix but I do need to get this to sit I need the camera to move just right so that the screw drops into the little
[01:25:04] piece every single person with a mobula right now that's taking the canopy apart is going oh my God that's the most annoying part I just got it well [@$#%] this will be a lot better
[01:25:18] to fly now my God why is that not it doesn't look it's threading in there pirate streams for an hour there's something going on there that's just going to pop right out
[01:25:43] again isn't it I'm going to have to pull that apart that there's something not happy about this I think maybe the the little piece on the back has the little piece that you
[01:26:00] screw down to the back of the camera I think it might be stripped I got to replace my sometimes I'll run the same thing forever and I'll one day I'll realize like I've had this
[01:26:11] I've run like a thousand batteries through this camera mount no wonder why it's stripped out as hell let's take a look at BetaFlight and see what I did with I I
[01:26:22] actually don't I don't remember what the stock tune was but I can show you where my tune's at and then you can probably get yours pretty much exactly where I'm at
[01:26:36] again the the one modification I've done is switch the propellers over with the GemFan 45mm propellers you might not you might but you might not be able to get the tune as aggressive as what you're
[01:26:49] about to see I've found that these HQ ultr light props are really really well balanced I'm really impressed by them they're also lighter weight so you're going to get better response time
[01:27:00] better pit Loop performance and it's just going to feel a lot crisper in the air so in pit tuning as you can see I've gone pretty aggressive which is why having these really well balanced
[01:27:15] propellers is awesome so damping degain slider I've got maxed all the way up at 2.0 tracking p&i gain slider I've got sort of maxed for me I like this ratio I like this ratio where the Dain is.3 on
[01:27:31] the sliders ahead of the p&i gains so 1.7 there stick response feed forward gains don't use my values use your own if you want more better stick response move this up if you want smoother flight
[01:27:44] footage move this down Dynamic damping dmax I have all the way up at 1.2 that's where I like it drift wobble I gain slider down at 08 it's really hard to tell if the ey gain
[01:27:56] is set wrong anyway just leave it at 08 in my opinion or leave it at 1.0 it's fine pitch damping and Pitch tracking as usual I've moved them up to 1.1 the pitch the battery is spread more across
[01:28:09] the pitch axis than the roll axis so give the pitch axis a little bit more Authority because it has to move that weight more than the roll axis does and then the master multiplier I have
[01:28:22] all the way up at 1.4 you can see the pit gains are [@$#%] Skyhigh 107 123 I gains up in the 150s 170s regular D gains 80 and 100 DX up at 120 150 so big rig big pit
[01:28:42] gains a lot of times th this is most of my 75 millim rigs are pushed this far because the motor prop all up weight battery situation on 75 millim rigs is not great it is not nearly as locked in
[01:29:01] as 65mm Rigs and so in order to get the response time in order to get the the the just the flight feel out of 75mm rigs this is where my pids end up I just keep pushing them farther and farther
[01:29:14] and farther and farther and farther and it's nice that they can handle that but I do wish that we could really and we are but I wish that we would nail down the the perfect motor for a 75
[01:29:27] mimer rig a little bit faster than we have be have been I think I know what it is I think it's an 803 but unfortunately there aren't many of those in existence right now so this
[01:29:38] is where I've got that set the rest of this stuff is just like kind of personal preference I've got a little bit of throttle Expo but not much and then filter settings are kind of specific
[01:29:50] because these these BetaFPV 5 amp cross looking aios have BMI 270s in them and the BMI 270 is a pretty specific kind of Gyro this filtering layout was given to me by
[01:30:09] Brandon's baked beans he does tons of work with blackbox logs and is just awesome in terms of like a smart person he charges a dollar a minute which which is incredibly reasonable for
[01:30:26] like full-blown blackbox tuning so if you have an unruly rig or if you just want to get your tune absolutely perfect Brandon is your guy and he's done tons of work he's a [@$#%] genius
[01:30:37] level tuner and so every single BMI 270 rig that he runs he uses a similar almost identical filtering setup to this and basically what you do is you go into the presets and you just search
[01:30:52] for clean and then you run your your Baseline is the clean build with RPM filtering or without it depends on your rig in this case with RPM filtering so this is the Baseline the the clean filter settings
[01:31:08] from BetaFlight and then you come in here to filter settings and you turn the gyro slider off for the gyro filter multiplier you turn off gyro low pass one you turn on gyro low pass S 2 you
[01:31:24] put this static cut off frequency really low at 135 but then you change the filter to pt2 you then come down to the gyro RPM filter and you bring the harmonics down to one and then you can pretty much
[01:31:39] leave everything else alone if you want to move the dterm filter slider up a little bit you can but don't go too crazy with it because the BMI 270 gyro is really sensitive you're going to save
[01:31:49] this then you're going to come into the CLI and you need to do a something and I'm going to drop it into the chat with what you need to do this is just changing the
[01:32:00] internal the internal Hardware filtering I have to unplug this it's getting really hot it changes the internal Hardware filtering on the p on the BMI 270 gyro and it's the reason
[01:32:14] that you've put that that low pass 2 at such a low cut off frequency what you're basically doing is you're all owing betaf flight's gyro filtering to do the job that the Gyros Hardware
[01:32:29] filtering would normally do because beta BetaFPV sorry BetaFlight does a better job than the BMI 270s built-in Hardware filtering does and that's it that's the filtering that has worked
[01:32:43] extremely well in fairness the stone stock filtering worked totally fine on this thing so you really don't need to go down the rabbit hole but if you want to there you go that's how you do
[01:32:58] it that's how to get it tuned exactly the way this one is which is what you were watching in the flight footage in the beginning of the stream and then a couple of minutes ago it's easy to
[01:33:06] tell if it's flown through this because you can see the blue ducts in the bottom of the of the screen so if you look back at this stream and you're wondering which rig this is if you see blue it's
[01:33:17] this one if you see gray if it's one of these two Mobula 7 based builds the bigger meteor 75 Pro frame I don't like it is extremely heavy and it is also physically bigger the the the
[01:33:37] guards are physically farther out and so you get more duct in view you have to basically the when when you buy this as a BNF the the up tilt is set it's a static up tilt it looks to be
[01:33:53] about 20° which is a lot flying this in the house is a little challenging because you're like looking up like this inside the house you want like 5 degrees or 10 degrees of uptilt so that you can
[01:34:04] slow down and fly slowly and whatnot this is challenging even though it's got like 20° of uptilt there's still a bunch of duct in view which I don't like I really do not like the way that it looks
[01:34:20] a tiny little bit of like clear or smoke crotch gray on the bottom is okay but this has a bunch of duct in view I would definitely Swap this out to the Black version of this Frame that would
[01:34:32] be like the first thing I did if I was going to continue to fly this so that and the other thing like I said the 75 Pro frame is really heavy it's pretty stout it's a
[01:34:46] pretty stout frame which is probably why we can get the pit So High but it's I don't love this Frame if I'm honest but it's your only option if you want to do these bigger props there are no other
[01:35:00] whoop frames that'll that'll spin the 45mm props so kind of is what it is these HQ props are really really good I also I'm going to try this on the by blades but to be honest I I think that
[01:35:13] these HQ Ultra brand new ultralight 45mm tries are the way to go the motors are some of my favorite tiny whoop 75mm outdoor Motors these are the BetaFPV 1102 22,000 KV Motors they did great
[01:35:30] in our testing they are relatively efficient they make great power especially when you put a great big propeller on them this is a 45mm triblade right this is a lot of
[01:35:45] propeller but this is a lot of motor 1102 is a big Stater so these motors work really well with these props the AIO is the old school like they've put it in a million different
[01:35:57] quads BetaFPV F4 cross style Ao No VTX built in but it does have elrs built in in fairness there were two of these one of them was this one was was new in the box this one had been
[01:36:17] flown the first battery that I flew on this thing the AO literally lit on fire so the the old school BetaFPV cross F4 is not the best AIO ever it's certainly not the worst AIO either
[01:36:34] it's an all-in-one that pretty much all the racers I think are still running Maybe not maybe they've switched over to the 65 a I don't really pay attention to the whoop racing scene but this has
[01:36:46] been a very popular AO for a long time yes they fail sometimes but it's not that bad this is one of the best of the aios so great that it has this AIO in it the canopy it's okay it's a little
[01:37:03] heavy the Mobula 6 canopy is is really The Sweet Spot in my opinion but this canopy is okay incidentally this canopy will work this is the only other canopy poured molded canopy that
[01:37:21] will work with the with the WalkSnail light actually so if you don't like the idea of having your WalkSnail light lens hanging out like this this meteor 75 canopy is the other
[01:37:36] option be careful there's two versions of this canopy there's a version of this canopy that's really silly looking because it's designed to have like a [@$#%] Crown stuck into it and this one
[01:37:48] is kind of designed anyway but this canopy looks like this the other one doesn't look like this and this is the one that works with the with the WalkSnail light so this canopy is
[01:37:59] okay it gets a pass with me but there aren't a lot of cameras that'll work with it so so be careful the camera I believe this is the BetaFPV CO2 camera you guys were looking at it you make
[01:38:13] your own judgment I don't think it's great I don't think it's terrible either analog looks like ass no matter what so on one hand who cares on the other hand I do think that the cam Nano 3s look
[01:38:24] better than this this just looks like kind of grainy and noisy to me which I don't really love so I won't use these cameras on really anything but they're okay if you buy this as a bind and fly
[01:38:33] this camera is fine fly the [@$#%] out of it VTX is the weak point for sure that would be the thing that I would swap out you can certainly try the easy button is to swap the antenna out put
[01:38:47] a Singularity Ultra short on this guy and it'll work a lot better than the janky s whip antenna you can also do one of these micro vs but the micro is going to be really long you're going to
[01:39:00] have to manage the length of that antenna a I don't have one on the desk but the the the TR RC Ultra short which is really just this short it's just going to hang right out the
[01:39:15] back here and it's one of it's arguably the best whoop antenna that there is and so try that try a different antenna first I think in the long term you might wind up swapping
[01:39:27] out the VTX with this when you go to do that just look up any racing 655mm build they've all been using this AO and they've all been putting the vtx's right down below here below the AIO in
[01:39:44] between the AIO and the frame there's like this little channel that has nothing in it and the little tiny vtx's fit perfectly in there if you're a baller the TBS pro32 Nano is the way to
[01:39:56] go there's also the regular TBS Nano tiny little VTX that one's good as well 50 Ms versus 400 the pro Pro 32 Nano has 400 Mill so that'd be great for flying it outside or
[01:40:12] there's some other there's some other tiny tiny tiny little vtx's that you could swap in here that would give you much better performance comes with BT 2.0 which is awesome it's the
[01:40:24] straight plug I would love it for the to be the 180 plug but this came out before the 180 plugs existed so obviously it's not going to be it and that's really it man I
[01:40:37] am I I'm just so blown away at how good this thing flies it's for for railing around outside the house it's awesome and I don't even think they cost that much do
[01:40:49] they BetaFPV meteor meteor 75 Pro $109 what what pyro drone and race day quad sell this for 110 bucks that's awesome I was thinking it would be like 150 because like happy
[01:41:14] model are the ones that make the super cheap stuff but no BetaFPV makes some cheap stuff man at a at 110 look for 110 bucks you can fly this thing outside like you hate it and if
[01:41:25] you lose it really not the end of the world you don't have any time tied up in the build and if you do a custom build on one of these you're going to spend 110 bucks you're probably going to
[01:41:36] spend more than 110 bucks so in terms of like something to fly outside hard and when you fly whoops outside especially when you fly them around trees there's a really good
[01:41:48] chance you're going to lose it forever you put a whoop into the top of a tree it's gone it might get blown out by the wind someday but for the most part it's gone and so flying whoops outside
[01:41:59] is kind of sketchy in that respect and so this makes an awful lot of sense so that you lose it whatever 110 bucks and none of my life spent doing a custom built was lost on that oneway whoop
[01:42:13] you're going to lose one at some point especially when you start flying harder and harder outside just be okay with that upgrading this is also a great platform to upgrade from you've got the
[01:42:29] AIO that I use on all of the WalkSnail 1S builds so that's awesome you've got one of the best set of 75mm Motors the 1102 22,000 you've got a canopy that you C you can use for a WalkSnail build I
[01:42:47] would never reuse this VTX I would probably never reuse this camera and I don't really like this Frame but it's a good day if you buy a BNF that has an aiio and Motors that have
[01:43:03] any use moving forward what I mean and so from like a I can't help but upgrade every single thing that I buy standpoint try to not upgrade this because I think the value of this thing
[01:43:19] is that it doesn't need it like maybe swap the end ten it out but then stop you got 110 bucks in it if you lose it with no upgrades on it you're going to be way happier than if you swap the
[01:43:31] motors or put your favorite colored canopy that you RIT DED or whatever right so I I think one of the really nice things about this is to just buy it and fly it hard outside and just
[01:43:44] eventually lose it if you lose it that means you were taking chances you were trying to get better at flying you were having a really good time you ever notice you're having the best time of
[01:43:54] your life right before you lose one cuz you're doing something sketchy usually and you're about to maybe pull it off in the end you didn't but try it again that's how you get goodyou
[01:44:06] got to break some eggs my friends so really really impressive package for 110 bucks [@$#%] these motors these motors are 40 bucks and this aiio is at least $40 so and you'll reuse those I
[01:44:23] would not recommend this as a platform for a WalkSnail build this Frame is so heavy that as a and I tried this as a WalkSnail build it's just unreasonably heavy this as an analog build is
[01:44:40] right at the limit so I would not recommend a WalkSnail build that has although if you bought this and you decided that you wanted to do a 1S WalkSnail build
[01:44:53] you've got one of my favorite if not maybe my favorite set of 1S Motors you've got the AIO that I use on all these WalkSnail builds so you're close swap the frame out get a in my
[01:45:06] opinion meteor 75 airf frame transfer the motors over get your you [@$#%] you can even use the canopy I think you should get the Mobula 6 canopy but great basis for
[01:45:21] eventually doing a 1S WalkSnail build but you're going to like flying this thing analog it's a really good combo I would definitely recommend that you swap the propellers over though I
[01:45:32] built a lighter version of this at one point analog with the with the Mobula 6 stuff which is why it was lighter weight and the the biggest problem that I had is that the GemFan triblade
[01:45:47] and byblade 45mm props they were just not balanced enough for me to get a really rocking pit tune and also they're they're a heavier propeller these brand new there's a two
[01:45:58] blade and a three-blade version HQ ultral lights 45mm props these are awesome I'm going to try this on the by blades tomorrow but man do I like it on these Tri blades I can almost
[01:46:09] guarantee these Tri blades are way to go so there you go friends meteor 75 Pro most impressive and that does not I do not imp press easily look at the box that it comes in no one
[01:46:28] cares rightfully so it comes with stuff it comes with stupid things that you can clip down to the canopy don't do it what it does come with it's great it comes with one of these things do you
[01:46:41] guys know what this is this is a charger and a tester every live stream that I show this off I get a comment of holy [@$#%] I have one of those and I didn't know it was a cell Checker they give you this as
[01:46:52] a charger USBC and then two charging points ports but right there that little bit of gray it says test and so if you take a battery while this is not plugged into USBC and you plug in to the port
[01:47:08] that says test test the batteriesJesse's in the house what's up homie thanks for coming brother I was just singing the pr I was just saying how how I've been sleeping on the the
[01:47:26] meteor 75 Pro I'm really impressed by how good this thing flies out of the box most impressive let's fly and then sleep my friends let's fly these 75s in the house I'm going to fly this thing in the
[01:47:45] house this is where you'll really get to see how heavy this guy is hold on hold on I'm very behind on chat sorry friends CMYK says you may have had this question before but thoughts on the
[01:48:02] beta FPV flat elrs antennas they've been tested previously that BetaFPV put out an elrs receiver with the flat antennas a long time ago and it was awful the the flat antenna was
[01:48:17] terrible the new air 65 I don't know if that has the same receiver I didn't fly that thing enough before I ruined it to check the elrs range out I would love to have flown it down the street but I
[01:48:31] didn't and so I don't know you're going to have to ask some other folks about it but I'm sure some people have have some strong opinions on Facebook about it SOS Death
[01:48:42] Valley says would it be good on 2S for WalkSnail so this Frame this being the only frame that swings the 45mm propellers will not work with a 2S battery so you won't be able to
[01:48:55] do this as a 2S build nor do you really need to you wouldn't the the point I think of the 75 Pro is the slightly bigger props to pull just a little bit more performance out
[01:49:11] of a 1S Battery on 2S the regular 75mm builds are the way to go there would be little to no benefit at you would have to like run some cockamamy rubber band set up to hold the 2s
[01:49:25] battery and then it's going to be a pain in the ass and do it if you want but don't do it don't do it don't do it's a trap it's a trap I better not have the hiccups
[01:49:41] nail it's a trap they trap in them hoes meteor 75 Pro inside of the house don't try this at home remember that remember on like every single show they would say that at
[01:50:08] least 18 times I remember them saying it on MythBusters over and over and over again I think this is the wrong module like see look at the camera man like like this this camera just just
[01:50:22] doesn't look as good as the RunCam Nano 3 and it's a lot heavier this canopy camera VTX setup on this thing is kind of fat swapping the swapping that whole
[01:50:38] Communications package out would would bring the weight down quite a bit I would guess CMYK says can you would you call an 85 MIM 03 90 gram rig a tiny whoop sort of I guess I'd call it a fatty
[01:50:56] whoop a fat Fat Whoop I forgot to set stuff up oh God so as you can see it's a lot it's a lot in here but especially with the tune cranked as high up as I've got
[01:51:24] it's is flyable you hear that you hear how hard that hit that door oh God and there's a lot of up tilt too so it's really like encourages you to fly fast which is tough because then you hit
[01:51:41] [@$#%] even harder whoa Teddy hello friend I did not know you were there little boy what you doing buddy well he is not impressed Teddy is not impressed by the meteor 75
[01:51:54] Pro oh God here he comes here he comes let's follow this little fuzzball down the stairs what do you say here he comes oh he coming buddy you want to say hi to it want to say hi to it there you go
[01:52:15] good boy so with the it's heavier so it's shooting more wind at him oh Bo buddy this is not the one you want to tangle with oh easy buddy careful oh look at that
[01:52:33] beautiful coat blowing in the wind he needs a groom and he needs a groom and bad oh the the the flowing robes oh you going to eat it you wouldn't dare oh God we inis
[01:52:53] we in this so man like I'm also quite honestly kind of Blown Away at how good it does inside the house the the main problem is the main problem is how hard it hits your things like when this when
[01:53:13] this hits stuff it explo like things explode so and I don't want that for you so this is more for outdoor stuff but if you don't own anything that you care about or everything that you
[01:53:26] own is already broken then I mean fly it inside all you want it's not going to be as good as a 65 inside but this is not Terri this is not bad at all I I am also definitely getting used to
[01:53:39] Flying 75mm rigs cuz I've been doing it a lot lately the other day when I flew the 65mm rig I was very uncomfortable oh no [@$#%] you [Laughter] why do I always crash behind the goddamn
[01:53:59] Ikea Cube oh I got it oh [@$#%] I got it buddy that's what it looks like look at you standing up like a I don't know what animal stands up look at that run time
[01:54:24] inside the house too oh wait no it's not good runtime it's bad runtime but look how high the battery bounced back up 374 we're good for a little more let's get a full a full a full
[01:54:38] banana out of it oh God I don't I don't pretend to know what just happened but I hope I didn't break something the Run time's okay the bigger props give you more efficiency
[01:54:56] but unfortunately the the frame is heavier the motors are heavier the props are heavier right so it's oh oh no oh no hold on ah we're good we're good we're good we're good the the the
[01:55:19] antenna gets pulled down into the propellers and then it jams between the props and the frame it's not a great antenna setup that they've got going on here but we're up to three
[01:55:33] minutes that's okay run time and I was jamming around I wasn't like railing on it that hard but all right now the batteries come down too low there you go 3 minutes and 18
[01:55:50] seconds batter's bouncing back 363 364 36 five there you go so this battle this battery will probably bounce back to like 3.7 which is that's pretty good that's pretty good that's a nice spot
[01:56:05] that way you don't have to like storage charge them they're they're good to sit for a while what I'm saying so that's the meteor 75 Pro now we're going to go ass opposite end of
[01:56:18] the spectrum to the lightweight custom built 7 1S elrs with the 0703 23,500 on it we're still going to run 1S 450 and you'll be able to see the difference small dog how are you
[01:56:43] sir Brandon's MC Bean says don't forget to add a lot of Gyro filtering when using that command on a BMI BMI gyro yall there you guys go co power says if you were starting with tiny whoops would
[01:56:59] you get a meteor 75 Pro or a 65mm like the air or Mobula 6 2024 that's an easy one Cole where do you want to fly more do you want to fly more outside or inside outside 75 Pro inside 65 mil
[01:57:13] build oh wait hold on I got to arm the damn thing oh wrong module it's got no video cuz it's low power in till first and it's all the way down in pit mode right
[01:57:25] now come on come on El s there it is and we got video schn or no schn somebody says in chat that's an easy one brother it's all about that chronic says in your opinion what's
[01:57:43] the best Racetrack and why is it Laguna sea I unpopular ass opinion but I don't love Laguna sea I like it but I don't love it oh God all right I got to adjust to this this
[01:57:59] is this is super different I think it might feel different because of the up tilt hold on right now it actually feels like it has there we go ah it's better
[01:58:25] Teddy what are you doing what is he thinking all right so much better suited rig for flying around inside the house mainly just because it's lighter
[01:59:00] these motors actually don't so th th this power to weight ratio is not quite as good so I don't have as much power but these motors have enough again these are the VCI
[01:59:18] 0703 23,500 these motors have just enough and this is a this is like a relatively balanced rig we don't I haven't talked I've mentioned balance before but we don't talk as much about it as we
[01:59:36] should because it's super important and so this is a balanced rig but this is on the side of Bal this is on like the lower power to weight ratio side of balance what's that I didn't
[01:59:52] chop a leaf off the thing did I oh that's chicken that's doggy's chicken toy ah [@$#%] and so the the 75 Pro is very well balanced the the the power to weight
[02:00:10] ratio the the size it's got it feels right when when a rig is balanced well it feels right this feels right and you can see I'm just I'm able to be more accurate
[02:00:25] you see those like Corrections that I made coming down that dive tunnel just now I can make those Corrections because this thing is lightweight and it and it's like a little bit more
[02:00:35] reactive the heavier rig gets the slower the my eyes are closed for that the heavier it gets the the slower it's reactions are unless you have like an awful big motor
[02:00:52] to really boss it around yay it didn't fall behind for a change so this is a much lighter much aier flight experience here oh God no can you hear the difference when
[02:01:18] this thing crashes too when this thing crashes it like dings off of stuff d d d dink like like well that didn't really hit hard enough to give you a noise but
[02:01:33] like I [Laughter] could oh oh my God that's the greatest thing ever oh my God I love you so much dog I love you so much stop trying to eat it oh
[02:02:03] boy this a little face just comes looks right down on us like what are you doing back there what are you doing back there strange little flying machine well there he is he's keeping an
[02:02:18] eye the teddy charge oh boy oh boy you going to get it again oh come on buddy never oh [@$#%] that might have been just me flying like a buffoon you can also see we've got
[02:02:47] quite a bit more flight time on this thing we're up at 3 and 1/2 minutes we'll probably get to like 3 minutes 50 or so although wait no now is when we come in all right 3 minutes and 40 this let's
[02:02:58] see what the battery bounces back to 364 365 366 so I took not quite as much out of this battery if I'd run them down to the same amount this would be like 6 minutes 3 minutes and 50 so you
[02:03:12] know of course lighter weight rigs you're going to get more runtime that's pretty obvious by now but not drastically different though right like not that much difference
[02:03:27] between these two things and one of these is a BNF one of them is not super hard to get upgraded to this point right unplug Motors unscrew Motors swap
[02:03:41] Motors you will have to do the BT 2.0 though so you will have to use a soldering iron on a Mobula 7 I think right I don't think they come with bt2.0 don't quote me on that they
[02:03:53] they might there's a chance they come with bt2.0 I doubt it though it won't be bt2.0 it'll be a30 which is fine same thing this is the 0803 version prepare for chaos little bit
[02:04:10] more weight bunch more power a bunch more power really this is on the other module what are the odds last battery friends just Mo says how does it compare to the 65 Pro frame I
[02:04:28] find the 65 Pro frame is fun same thing it's kind of heavier but with the 65 Pro frame I just don't get it there aren't really any good propellers available for it which is the biggest
[02:04:40] problem but it just doesn't necessarily the 65 Pro doesn't fix any problems in my experience if you want to if you want to fly inside the house regular 65 is way
[02:04:55] better if you want to fly outside 75 is the way to go oh boy so this is also the rig where the left rear motor is is OBS oh boy is upset with life why is it doing that
[02:05:29] oh boy Teddy this is not the rig to be trifling with Teddy this is not the quad to be trifling with my friend come on man it's this aiio Teddy back up there we go oh [@$#%]
[02:05:54] all right this is going to be a comedy of errors I'm just going to stick with it come on right rear motor there we go this aiio is on its way out this is my X12 that's just like dead oh this thing
[02:06:06] is this tune is at the limit so this is a whole other level of power to weight ratio and response this thing makes this flies like a 65 like a dialed 65mm rig [@$#%] this is one of the more
[02:06:31] impressive this is the most impressive 75mm build I've ever flown it's really really good there we go the Run time's not great but it's actually kind of okay like look at how this thing moves
[02:06:52] around now I'm pushing this thing around harder than I was but I can because of the fact that it's responding quicker I can push it into
[02:07:05] stuff a lot harder because its reaction times will match up with mine does that make sense [@$#%] I was really trying to not crash it this is the rig that that
[02:07:23] Spectre AIO is going to go on oh we just had it there it is nope didn't have it no Teddy no Teddy Teddy there we go look at that power ready watch this this on a dead B battery
[02:07:53] ready that is a tiny throttle blip just wh this is next level if you want a 75mm rig that absolutely tears a hole through the space time continuum on 1S this is the one so look at that run
[02:08:21] time it sucks 2 2 minutes and 30 seconds these motors make mad power I've seen 50 plus thousand RPM even with big old 1.6 in props from these motors they're crazy this flies awesome just
[02:08:39] like it did on the WalkSnail setup but the runtime is the issue I don't know I was flying that pretty hard you probably get 3 minutes out of it but the the these motors are are
[02:08:53] aggressive but they're light as well they're 82.8 27,000 KV and they just absolutely blast so this is my favorite of all the 75s but man I'll tell you what for $110 out of the box this is ridiculous
[02:09:13] this is ridiculous how good this flies can you get something that build something that flies better of course always but how much time are you going to put into it not much how much
[02:09:25] money you going to put into it a bunch more right you got to buy the rig you buy the Mobula 7 1S elrs comes with useless Motors not actually useless the Bells on them are great if you just find
[02:09:36] some 27 30,000 KV Staters match them up with awesome but very cool stuff most impressive great job BetaFPV sorry I was sorry I'm just finding out about this rig now I I I knew about it but I
[02:09:53] just didn't I didn't know it was it was this good right out of the box I figured it would it would feel heavier and it does feel heavy but doesn't feel that
[02:10:06] heavy that one's done there you go friends what do you think of that more BNF reviews is this a good thing or a bad thing this is a bad road to be going down kinetic
[02:10:18] says thanks for the advice about goggles I got a used pair HD2 is in pristine condition I couldn't love them more awesome dude that's the way to do it Zoe 101 says any ideas on a 65mm rig that
[02:10:29] has an almost perfect tune but on Dives it gets y'all wash out would adding more motor idle do it no adding more motor will do it you need more power tiny whoops don't like to dive
[02:10:46] they are a bad on the way down this is what's happening look how awful that is this is the worst aerodynamic setup ever and it's falling straight down so the wind is going crazy you need a
[02:11:00] power train that has to be able to handle all of the swirling air that's trying to make this thing go bananas and then at the bottom it's going to want to do yaw wash
[02:11:11] out y yaw uncontrollable yaw ever if if you build a rig and at any point you go full throttle and instead of just doing what it should it yaws if that ever happens that is an instant message to
[02:11:29] you this doesn't have enough power the only way to fix that is with more power you can make it a little bit better by turning the pids up and breaking out the Y the the the
[02:11:42] yaw pids and making them like really high but real you're just going to make it a little bit better at a time doing stuff the real solution is higher KV Motors lighter all-up weight more
[02:11:55] aggressive propellers propellers that are better matched for the motors just more power and less weight is the solution to Y all wash out you can technically try going from
[02:12:07] props out to props in that might help a little bit so there's a there are some things if it only does it the tiniest little bit you might be able to get it
[02:12:17] out with tuning but more than likely you're just going to spend a bunch of time chasing your tail spend the 40 bucks on a set of higher KV Motors or lighter Motors or whatever and Away you
[02:12:31] go friend M Bean says sounds like a car crash as there a hole in the drywall Kevin Sumer with the last comment of the live stream he says binly reviews did you get did you do the
[02:12:45] YouTuber thing is it's the best thing ever this week remember guys this is the best quad ever it's not the best quad ever but it's way better than I thought and that's a good thing that's always
[02:13:03] nice right Teddy spaghetti right little Teddy boy all right I got you I got you I'm gonna make you make you a star again all right guys thanks for hanging out my name is Teddy spaghetti and I'm a bad
[02:13:19] dog I am the worst not the worst but I'm pretty bad I peed on the bed the other day that's how bad I am stop it get my finger out of your mouth make sure you do the YouTube
[02:13:35] things but more importantly head on over to sepb.net and I can jump off the balcony whenever I want so make sure you take a poop poop safe friends I love you doggy thank you
[02:14:07] for for Shilling that was nice of you his voice sounds just like mine I love you guys goodbye forever I'll see you guys on Friday that was Grim see you Friday at 7:00 here's that last battery that I
[02:14:26] flew with this thing outside just blasting I th this this i' I had such a blast flying this battery here you go people oh here's the end of the battery here's what you
[02:14:39] didn't see at the beginning of the live stream because I cut it short love you guys bye see you Friday a