[00:01:57]   my you dirty rat bastards my name's AAR my name's Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti welcome to the show it's whoop Wednesday godamn it that's why I'm in a good mood now I was just out touching

[00:02:39]   women that's why I'm in a good mood Wednesday nights are West Coast Swing nights at Wicked Westy what's up friends tonight we take a look at some more flight footage from

[00:02:54]   these two dirty rat bastards the these are basically Mobula 7 elrs 1S with motor swaps different propellers BT 2.0 different antenna or micro the things that matter are that

[00:03:18]   BT 2.0 Swap and motor swap one of them is on RC and power 0703 27,000 the other one is on VCI 0802 8 27,000 which do you think you were just watching which one of these do you

[00:03:35]   think that you were watching in the in the little intro there there's a the the eagle eyed among you will be able to figure it out there's a huge clue I think there's a huge clue I'm not

[00:03:49]   sure if you guys can see it through the live stream or not but type in the chat VCI or RC in power VCI is an 0803 RC and power is an ' 0703 let's see let's see what you guys

[00:04:06]   think see if anybody can kind of figure it out tonight we're going to do Q&A as we always do we're going to explore these two and we're going to fly them I got four batteries four 42 450mah 1s

[00:04:20]   batteries on the charger ready to go so we'll fly them around the house like lunatics and talk about it the are they the ultimate 75 MIM analog rig motor does anybody know why towards the

[00:04:39]   end of the the intro there's the reason why was was was there what else I don't know that's it that's what we're doing tonight what's up Chad FPV toast Cloud Hopper Curtis Hayes doubles FPV robox MC MCAS

[00:05:00]   Frank Nicholas Scotty Scott danzil the terrible Smoking Dog Kujo James Thomas Spaceman spiff Levi FPV King dinglang Northern Tier Douglas 6 MC mucus witchat witch cat is an interesting

[00:05:14]   YouTube name Curtis Hayes danzil the terrible James Thomas Rob axelon 661 FPV Curtis Hayes what's up everybody thanks for coming everybody's saying RC in power you're

[00:05:30]   all wrong the clue was all the jello could you guys see the Jello-O it's actually not even Jello it's just like massive vibrations it's just a ton of a ton of vibrations on this this

[00:05:51]   rig here with the VCI 803s on it these VCI 803s I've put a bunch of batteries through and so I've crashed a bunch and now the 1 mm motor shafts are all bent to Hell which is putting a ton

[00:06:05]   of vibrations into the FPV feed and it's shaking so hard that it's just like Blurry like there were times that I was flying where I could barely see where I was going because it was vibrating so

[00:06:17]   hard and everything was was was like smearing all over the place cuz I was flying towards Sunset the RC and powers are like kind of brand new all although within four batteries of flying

[00:06:33]   these they started to already get beat up and the and the 1 mil motor shaft started to bend up and I started to get core temperature warnings and other

[00:06:45]   nonsense so kind of sucks they both fly phenomenal like the the flight characterist SS with either one of these motors and these HQ Ultra fragile but also ultra light 1.6 in by blades is

[00:07:12]   fantastic these these fly so good but the problem is runtime I'm only getting like a little bit over 2 minutes of runtime out of these and as we've been discussing recently is really hard on the

[00:07:31]   batteries like if you run a battery down on a quad from fully charged to dead in two minutes that battery is getting its ass kicked and that battery is going to get really hot and it's not going to

[00:07:44]   last very long and so as as much as I love the way that both of these motors perform they are too tall and not why enough to stay cool the 802 IA 27,000 KV Motors yes they're still only 8 mm

[00:08:10]   wide but they're only 2 mm tall so you've got that four to one ratio and because of the fact that it's only 2 mm tall it doesn't make enough power to generate enough heat to

[00:08:27]   become inefficient these two motors 82.8 which we're just going to start calling 0803 okay 83 369 that's like a 2 2.66 I guess it would be to one ratio not good enough

[00:08:48]   703 369 that's a 2.33 width to one ratio not high enough both of these motors suffer with that same problem when you when you push them hard I'm super interested to see how these do inside the house I

[00:09:09]   think these are both going to be completely fine inside the house because we're not going to be nosed down whing around outside let me let me play some more flight footage for you guys

[00:09:20]   of these two I'm going to play so at the beginning of the stream that was the VCI 083s I'm going to play another another file from them I think think let me turn the audio on for a

[00:09:35]   second here and make sure look at that beautiful OSDI had The Full FPV Experience today all OSD not working like just all kinds of annoyances all right let's see all right let's try this again

[00:09:54]   82.8 the new all right so 82.8 here you guys go I'm just going to play this while I talk over it just want to make sure that that was coming through so these are

[00:10:12]   the 080 2.8 I hope that you can see the vibrations that are happening there it's there's just there's a spot in the throttle where it vibrates like crazy it's a little bit above the the hover

[00:10:24]   Point so at one point I'm just like cruising down the little gutter run and it's I I I I really like could barely see where I was going also like for no reason it was on rate

[00:10:37]   profile too so I had so many weird problems today it was it was super super super strange super frustrating day trying to get these two things up these were two this is one brand new

[00:10:51]   X12 and another pretty much new X12 and so I put them on the flight5 got everything dumped in there and I mean it should have been so much smoother than it actually

[00:11:05]   is tell me in the chat can you guys see the vibrations can you guys see at some point like for example it's was just there there it is and it's good it comes and it goes every once in a while

[00:11:17]   it stays John says Lou okay so you guys can see it all right cool so I don't have to like look at that look how bad that is oh my God it's so bad sometimes there it's would

[00:11:28]   appear that it is 28 % throttle where that's happening me 28 29% throttle is where is where that's happening and it's just from these motors being a little bit beat up like here's

[00:11:40]   the thing though I have not I probably only have like 20 batteries on these motors but like look how good it flies already getting a low battery warning so these motors are fantastic I I

[00:11:55]   love their weight I love the amount of power that they make but they are getting too hot and then they are getting inefficient and they're just eating this they're just eating

[00:12:08]   these 1S 450s and if you go up to a 1 S550 that bad look at how bad that is if you go up to a 550 that battery is so heavy and you're going to really lose like this performance like these rigs

[00:12:20]   fly great on these ons 450 folded cell batteries like this is the right battery for it but like this flight style of like putting the nose down and bombing around the yard it's not it

[00:12:36]   like it's not it's not a good match for for these motors if if you don't care about 2 minute and 15sec run times and or your batteries getting their ass kicked and there we go with another core

[00:12:52]   temperature warning even on a 12 amp AO right which is outrageous but I these motors make great power I I will absolutely say that both of these motors make incredible power on these HQ ultral

[00:13:08]   light 1.6in Bri blades I'm so happy with the way that they actually fly it's just like from a weird logistical or whatever standpoint it's just it's just doesn't work you're going

[00:13:24]   to you're going to annihilate all your batteries if you want something so what is this 073 here's an 0703 battery well a little bit of an 0703 battery probably I'm G

[00:13:41]   to I'm willing to bet that this is when the OSD was not working so this is when when I didn't have OSD but this is the first battery that I flew on the o73 so RC and power 0703 27,000 KV Motors something

[00:13:58]   weird was happening I I think there was actually too much filtering so you're going to see some like weird Jitters and strangeness that went away as soon as I removed some of the filtering

[00:14:11]    having too much filtering is just as much of a problem sometimes as having too little filtering it's a little bit of a different problem but you got to have the right amount of

[00:14:20]   filtering you can't have too much you can't have too little right around now is when I realized that I don't have OSD and I'm like well I can fly a little bit more but I don't want to hurt this

[00:14:31]   battery not having OSD it was because it was set to HD for whatever reason betaf flight's got some really weird bugs right now that that we've been seeing lately super strange bunch of

[00:14:45]   super strange things in in BetaFlight right now I mean none of them are really the end of the world they're just super annoying so here's the 0703 is very very similar flight characteristics

[00:14:58]    little tiny bit lighter still great power they are because they are even taller and well the they are they're they're 2 they're 02 of a millimeter taller and then they

[00:15:17]   are 1 mm less wide they're even harder on the batteries because they're just getting even hotter right they're a taller motor they still make good power right like 803 versus 703 that

[00:15:36]   that 3mm height really really does make great power but they they just they're they just Hammer the hell out of the batteries let's play another I think this is the 07 03s again doing let's

[00:15:51]    this is me getting really frustrated dude Power Teddy was also being a bastard today RC and power RC and power there we go cool so this is the second battery I put through the you you guys will

[00:16:06]   actually get to watch these RC and power motors so that that was just the very first battery I ever flew on them I think this is the second battery you guys are going to get to see the crashes

[00:16:18]   that bend the motor shafts on these motors to the point where I start to get core temperature warnings in the fourth battery that I fly on them it's the the whole 1 mil shaft thing and

[00:16:30]   like there's a bunch of people that say oh well if it's not a HappyModel motor the 1 mm shafts are plenty strong [@$#%] four batteries and these and these RC and power and and

[00:16:41]   everybody says oh the RC and power ones are the strongest no absolute nonsense I did not crash this thing hard once and these motors are already starting to get ruined so absolute

[00:16:55]   bollocks to one millimeter motor shafts being enough the people that are saying that surprise surprise right in your eyes are the people that don't fly or they don't crash and it just it

[00:17:07]   drives me so insane that those people are saying oh this is durable like how do you not know like how how how do you not know that you don't fly hard and that you don't crash and then you go on

[00:17:20]   [@$#%] Facebook and you tell hundreds if not thousands of people oh they're plenty durable is maddening I like seriously never ever ever ever listen to any of the advice on Facebook guys like

[00:17:36]   I over the past couple of years I've paid really close attention and looked at Facebook replies when I go on there and sort like what I'm paying attention to is how often people give

[00:17:47]   dead ass wrong information and I'm not kidding there's no reason for me to say this other than it being true it is more than 50% that people are dead ass wrong on

[00:18:00]   Facebook do not listen to anyone on there that you haven't like vetted by going to their page or hunting them down on YouTube and seeing how good of a pilot they are right that's going to

[00:18:10]   tell you how long they've been flying whether or not they actually crash ever right sometimes that can be a little bit hard because people a lot of people will edit's out but you'll be

[00:18:22]   able to get a good feel for it you're you guys are smart but I mean the the easy button is just to not get any of your info from Facebook cuz it's

[00:18:32]   just I mean you have a better chance getting the wrong answer there than the right answer and that's insane like that's absolutely insane here we go with some core

[00:18:46]   temperature jams look at how long this so it the core temperature is up there because it was sitting on the ground but look how long it took for it to get below 158 it was sitting there at

[00:18:58]   58 for like a worrying amount of time and so here we go this is battery number three with the RC and power 703s I haven't changed any filtering any pids any of that kind of stuff the

[00:19:15]   the pids are really not even all that aggressive at this point like it flies all right but I could still easily get it to prop wash so I would love to be so there's a

[00:19:25]   crash not a very hard one but a crash nonetheless you you guys are literally getting to see all of the crashes that have that have already hurt these 703 RC and power

[00:19:38]   motors here's one I mean that's a hit right I mean it's a hit to like a plastic garbage can it's I'm not like dropping it into into the concrete or anything but like that's a

[00:19:52]   legitimate crash sure I'll I'll I'll cop to that being an an actual hit but like I mean there was not a single crash that I was like oh my God these motors are [@$#%] now so make

[00:20:08]   your own mind up like you're you're getting to see it all of it I'm not going to hide anything not that I have a reason to right like I love RC and power motors I I I would love for for either

[00:20:20]   one of these motors to be good enough you can actually there you go you can actually already start to see the vibrations happening and the blurriness going on it's not as bad as the VCI

[00:20:29]   Motors but it wasn't there a minute ago this is the third battery on these motors maybe the fourth there there there's a chance that I flew One battery on these motors a couple of weeks ago

[00:20:41]   I'm not totally sure but this is a pretty fresh set of motors and I did change the change the propellers out I spun the before I flew this I spun the motors up and here here's the other

[00:20:56]   problem 2 minutes and 11 seconds and the battery is all the way down to 360 the lowest the battery was 3 was all the way down to sagging down to 315 like could you fly this battery a little tiny bit more

[00:21:11]   maybe sure but like you're just going to start to hurt it like look it's bouncing back 363 364 365 this battery will not bounce back to 3.8 if I'm lucky if I'm lucky it'll get the 3.7 so I mean

[00:21:26]   that's a battery that's pretty dead and the motors are sagging it like crazy and now here's the the I believe this is the last battery I flew on it you can see some of the vibrations

[00:21:38]   and now you're going to start to see some core temperature [@$#%] popping up from the from the vibrations from those couple of crashes so I mean

[00:21:51]   unfortunately in order for the look like what the hell in order for these motors to be realistic even if you're willing to deal with the the the run the lack of runtime really they're going to

[00:22:05]   need to come out with a version of them that's got a 1 and a half millimeter motor shaft the the 1 mil motor shaft is just not enough there's a crash but like come on that's not like I I have

[00:22:17]   certainly not abused these motors and they're they're just I don't know man H very very frustrating because the flight characteristics are awesome like I these these two rigs fly

[00:22:35]   so good these motors have like way more grunt than the 802s and then way more grunt than the 802s and the 102s and the 1102s like the this is how I want these rigs to fly but the motor shafts

[00:22:55]   are too small and they just gob up the battery when when you fly it like this and so is like this is so frustrating I mean I guess like I mean look the the the igal motors fly pretty good on these

[00:23:16]   analog builds I'm pretty happy with them th this this ruins me though like flying these with these motors it's like oh my God like this is it like this is what I want and the the ow Motors are

[00:23:28]   not not quite here the the 102 and the 1102 22,000 KV Motors they don't fly anything like this I mean they're they're they they I I prefer the ow Motors to the to the 102s and the

[00:23:45]   1102s unless I'm just out bombing around so this is the flight performance that I want so bad but we're just no like this is not the way if they make either one of these

[00:24:02]   motors with a 1 and a half millimeter motor shaft I might be willing to just kind of like suck up the the run time there the core temperature was getting really bad now at the end of this

[00:24:15]   battery like I might be willing to take the hit on the runtime with the 1 and a half mil shaft because I it at least like like peace and love FPV thank you for the

[00:24:31]   Super Chat brother he says keep doing what you're doing man we're lucky to have you thank you man that's super cool of you to say super chatting the weed number I I'm usually willing to

[00:24:44]   overlook like one massive pain in the ass but two pains in the ass it's it's not no no I'm not I I can't Overlook that it's too much runtime and [@$#%] runtime and

[00:25:05]   they're fragile no and the the [@$#%] run time I'm much more willing to overlook than them being fragile the fragile thing is just obnoxious on one hand like this is why I I keep the motor plugs so

[00:25:21]   that it's easy to replace these but like dude I killed these RC and power motors in four or five batteries and there weren't any really hard hits like that's ridiculous that's going to be like a

[00:25:34]   fresh motor every every time I go out and fly right cuz like I usually go out and fly like five or six batteries and then I have to come in and replace one of the motors [@$#%] that no way dude

[00:25:46]   the VCI Motors did seem to hold up a little bit better I'm probably like maybe 30 or 40 batteries into these but these are also in way worse shape than the RC and power

[00:26:00]   motors so no it's so painful I'm like I'm very this makes me so sad man we've got these motors that that have the right flight performance

[00:26:19]   but The Run time's definitely an issue and I wasn't even pushing that hard like I I still have the the up tilt pretty low on both of these and I'm still in this like kind of feel them

[00:26:35]   out and don't totally destroy them like if I were to spend more time on these motors I would start flying way more nose down and that would that would be eating the battery in like a minute

[00:26:46]   50 a minute 40 maybe even a minute 30 so H brutal man brutal so so I mean the the jungle gy Basher formula is still the Ia 802 27000 they have the best mix of

[00:27:12]   durability flight performance runtime I mean those are really the three those are the three big things they fly great they feel great they're they're they're

[00:27:28]   I like I kind of wish that I hadn't tested these motors what I mean like like by testing these motors it's like oh my god with a little bit more flight performance it's so

[00:27:46]   good but like we can't have that oh God I don't know man I don't know if either one of these gu motor manufacturers make these motors with a one and a half mil motor

[00:28:09]   shaft I might I will I will absolutely test the [@$#%] out of them to see how durable they actually are I'm super curious to see someone else's 1 and a half millimeter well I I no I can't say

[00:28:21]   that because like there's flywoo 102s with the 1 and a half mil motor shaft which is Bomb proof proof RC and power 102s with the 1 and a half mil motor shaft it's totally bomb proof

[00:28:34]   but the HappyModel 1 and half mil motor shafts are bomb proof too so a durable version of these motors would be fascinating that that would really kind of like test my ability to put

[00:28:52]   up with really short run times because man do these fly good but I'm taking both of these apart I there's there's no reason for these to be together because the motor shafts are going to get even worse

[00:29:11]   and the runtime kind of sucks like I'm I the the the freestyle 75mm rig is going to be the the the one with the igal motors which is I don't even think it's put together

[00:29:26]   actually the these are no I'm going to I'm going to pull these both of these apart and put them back on to 802 27,000 30,000 maybe even 33,000 I meant to say 802 just now I

[00:29:42]   hope I said 802 not 702 because these that that's the right setup I am so sad about all this I'm like heartbroken we'll we'll fly a couple batteries here tonight around the house

[00:29:56]   with these because these are these are especially with these propellers these are shockingly good inside the house they do crash hard and I'm not going to leave these together to fly them around

[00:30:14]   the house the 75mm inside the house thing is a bad idea in my opinion if you have any belongings that are remotely valuable because these things just they just hit hard like when when a 65mm

[00:30:29]   rig hits something it's makes like kind of a noise like a slap when these hit something inside it's like I guess there's not much of a difference there but what I

[00:30:39]   mean it's it's more like a thump and you thump something glass really hard and you are knocking that [@$#%] over and then it's possibly smashing on the ground and

[00:30:52]   I ain't playing that game I'm not knocking over like Maggie's grandmother's dishes onto the floor and having them blow up like that's just not cool so but we I'll

[00:31:06]   fly these around a little bit just so that you can kind of see like if you can only have one tiny whoop for inside and outside and you're going to fly mainly outside but you want to fly every once

[00:31:17]   in a while inside I I don't know maybe you're going to get [@$#%] runtime outside and you're going to blow these motors up pretty quick if you crash but that's on you I I I try

[00:31:30]   to give you guys as much of my opinion as I possibly can and then let you see it for yourselves and then it's on you if if I if I say that I think it's a bad idea and then you go down that road too

[00:31:44]   look I have a funny feeling that you're going to end up coming to the same conclusion as me but I get it I there's some stuff that I just won't take anybody else's opinions on and I

[00:31:55]   have to kind of test it myself that's pretty human kind of thing let me get caught up on chat because you guys are are going bananas over there robax if you this is my full-time job

[00:32:06]   friends I've been doing this full-time for 3ish years I would love your support to help me do it this is completely crowdfunded this way when I review stuff there's no [@$#%] like

[00:32:18]   if companies choose to send me stuff I explain to them like look I'm not pulling any punches it's does mean something when a company sends me stuff cuz means that they're

[00:32:30]   somewhat like confident in their stuff because I tell them straight up like look if it's sucks I'm telling a couple of thousand people that it sucks if that's not okay with you don't send me

[00:32:42]   anything and so the folks that actually do then send me stuff like just that that actually means a lot to me right there and so I will praise them for sending me stuff but if it

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[00:33:07]   content right which is good but like you guys are paying the bills and that's sort of a model that I stole from Joshua it's why Joshua's reviews are so good and so and so

[00:33:21]   like Fair is that he's not like if if a company stops sending him stuff he doesn't care same thing for me like I I I don't expect to be sent anything it's just like a cool little bonus when when they

[00:33:34]   do choose to send me something and so totally crowdfunded hanging out certainly helps click the thumbs up button do the YouTube things that's all great but really if you have a couple

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[00:35:51]   thinking about doing some group sessions where instead of you having to pay4 $4 for a half an hour of my time or 60 bucks for an hour of my time to get a one-on-one session I'm thinking about

[00:36:04]   doing like some Sim sessions where it's like 10 bucks to jump in for a half an hour and I and I have to just like kind of cross my fingers that I can get like two or three or four people to do that

[00:36:17]    and then basically like we all jump into the Sim and I can go we'll do like a Discord audio session or whatever so everybody can hear me and then what I can do in the simulator is I

[00:36:31]   can I I can T tonight we're doing a half an hour on power loops and then you guys can all spectate me and then I show you a couple things you're going to have a stick overlay on

[00:36:41]   the bottom of your screen showing you my sticks and veloc drone and then I can show you look here's a couple of the key points of a power Loop and then all right you guys now go do it and I can

[00:36:51]   spectate you guys one by one and so I spectate the first person and then I say okay here's a mistake that you're making that everybody makes and I talk through it and then maybe I can say like

[00:37:00]   everybody jump back and spectate me real quick if you want I'm going to show this one mistake and then boom put you back onto it and then I can spectate the second person

[00:37:10]   and they do a couple power Loops oh here's another Super common mistake that I just saw talk through it boom boom boom boom boom boom boom is that would anybody be interested in that

[00:37:20]   this way it's not 40 bucks or 60 bucks which is that's a chunk of money if it's 10 bucks are there more people that would be willing to do it let me know say yes type yes in

[00:37:32]   chat if if you'd be down for like a $10 half an hour session and I think it would just be like power Loops one night mattye flips another night split s's another night building Dives another

[00:37:49]   night that kind of thing if it and then like it would be open for you guys like if a bunch of people request trippy spins I'll say no but if a bunch of people request like flying low or

[00:38:02]   dialing in your rates or some [@$#%] right like I would say yes to those but it's an immediate no on trippy spins because they're bad and you shouldn't do them and if you do them

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[00:39:14]   do that so the the two ways that I support people is that I have changed all of my bookmarks to not just be pyrro drone.com it's someone's affiliate link so that when I click my P I don't really

[00:39:27]   use bookmarks but just play along when you click your bookmark for each one of these websites it is someone anyone's affiliate link or if you don't use bookmarks like me and you just go up

[00:39:39]   to the URL bar and when you want to go to Amazon you type AMA and it suggests it go up there type AMA it's going to suggest regular old Amazon.com or if you keep looking at that 55 Barrel 55 gallon

[00:39:52]   barrel of lube it's going to suggest that the most commonly visited Amazon page off on the right you can remove those suggestions or depending on what browser maybe you have to rightclick it

[00:40:04]   there's a way to remove the suggestions remove them and then come here and click my Amazon affiliate link two or three or four times in a row and then your browser will think you want to go to

[00:40:17]   this affiliate link every single time you type AMA for Amazon and then you can do that with each one of these and this way you're supporting someone somebody's going to be able to make better YouTube

[00:40:27]   content content for you and everybody wins cool do itI've got affiliate links for Amazon get FPV pyro drone race day quads newbie drone wee bed FPV BetaFPV fpv cycle oh my God brain 3D hd0

[00:40:41]   flywoo emac bang good camera butter and AliExpress do it my friends if they're not my affiliate links use somebody's it's free money and the person whose affiliate links you use is going to be

[00:40:53]   able to make better [@$#%] for you on YouTube and that's a good thing isn't it isn't it do it Rob axon says Ola senior gangly what's up homie mck buas says hello gang and C FPV anybody in sacko

[00:41:09]   this weekend for the West Coast tiny whoop what's sacko where is sacko Sacramento rob a also says finally got some time off my daughter is getting married this weekend congratulations

[00:41:21]   dude that's awesome got family in town wish me luck dude rad that's super cool congrats that's Mega James Thomas says I heard you mention m1.2 X12 canopy screws what

[00:41:33]   do they fit Al they fit the double stack setups basically so WalkSnail or old school hd0 nowadays we can get the ao5 and it's a single stack but if you're going to do a double stack

[00:41:51]   tiny whoop m1.2 by2 screws are the right length they engage the the posts in the frame enough where you actually get good durability that's it that's what they do and then also the BetaFPV 0702

[00:42:10]   30,000 KV a good match for the Cockroach V3 no they are too tall and they are not very efficient if you already have those Motors you're going to want to match them up with any of the other

[00:42:25]   frames the Mobula 6 2024 frame the beta 65 airframe the weeed FPV crown frame the old school meteor 65 Frame if you want something that's bomb proof those are the good ones those are the

[00:42:43]   four good frames with the higher duct height if you don't have those Motors yet don't buy those Motors the the the seven the only 702 Motors to buy are HappyModel they are more powerful and

[00:42:59]   more efficient than any of the other 0702 which is like ridiculous but happy botle has been making 702 is longer than anybody else so I I guess it makes sense they've found some magical unicorn dust

[00:43:12]   unicorn dust so Curtis Hayes says is it too hot to fly outside so you fly behind the door no it's the mosquitoes the they're just vicious here I I don't know what it is

[00:43:27]   I am super super super looking forward to the end of mosquito season because if I go out if I stand outside that front door and fly one battery I will have like four or five

[00:43:40]   mosquito bites all over my ankles and legs and [@$#%] it's just awful it is absolutely awful and they like bite me in the face and [@$#%] too it's the the mosquitoes here are just

[00:43:52]   dicks Earth Walker says yes I see the vibration it's cool good good good good cmk says I will say I crash hard AF 65mm 072 and R destroy Motors prematurely I'm talking I'm

[00:44:09]   talking 15 story Falls onto the concrete and zero damage with what what's kind of interesting with 65 mimer rigs the lightweight 65mm 702 builds is like they're so lightweight that I mean other

[00:44:25]   than like inverting them and going full thrott like if you crash at like falling speed they just they don't hit hard and they're so light that there's not a lot of energy

[00:44:37]   behind that hit so I don't care if you send a 65 mil rig up to the [@$#%] Empire State Building and disarm it it's going to it if they reach terminal velocity pretty quick so hitting

[00:44:51]   from the top of the Empire State Building versus hitting from like the ceiling in the living room here is not not all that different and just these 65 mil builds they are just

[00:45:04]   so well balanced in terms of durability flight characteristics power to weight ratio all up weight like all the things they are just absolutely magical and it's the 75 mil rigs are just not there

[00:45:20]   like we the the the 75mm rigs just don't they they're not as well balanced they're either overpowered and they get [@$#%] runtime or they're overpowered and they're fragile or they're

[00:45:36]   underpowered and they're durable or they get great runtime but they don't have [@$#%] for power like there's always this there's always a caveat there there's there's not like a 75 millimet rig that

[00:45:49]   ticks all the boxes in the anywhere near the way that the 65s do that being said the 65 mil rigs are mainly for kind of flying in the house but like CMYK for example he rips

[00:46:05]   65s outside and it looks great and sometimes I think it looks better than than these do but I mean it really this does make more sense outside there's wind out there we want to cover

[00:46:21]   more ground if we can find this perfect kind of I mean it's really down to the motors like the the the Mobula 7 V4 frame on an analog 1.6 in build here it's plenty durable eventually you'll break it for

[00:46:38]   sure but if you reinforce these bottom if you do a couple of things basically this frame in my experience is plenty durable the main thing that you really do need to do is reinforce

[00:46:53]   see that black stuff that's e7000 same thing E6000 but it's black if you reinforce those posts top and bottom before you put the build together this Frame is like shockingly

[00:47:06]   durable even when you slam the hell out of it outside and so and these frames are also pretty lightweight like they're they're they seem to be the right weight the there's also

[00:47:20]   the metor 75 airframe which is a gram lighter and it's been really durable I haven't actually need to reinforce anything on that frame unfortunately that frame only clears aios that are

[00:47:34]   like cut like the cross style aiio so you're really limited on what on what AO that you run in that frame which is why I end up with these Mobula 7 V4 frames and damn near everything we've

[00:47:47]   got a couple of good propellers these HQ ultra light 1.6s they are too fragile but the flight performance is awesome so if you if if you don't crash very often these are a

[00:48:01]   great propeller if you crash I mean just not even often like if you crash you're definitely going to want the GemFan 1610 byblade which is a great propeller do I wish it was a little bit

[00:48:14]   lighter to get this kind of flight performance sure if it was a little bit lighter would it probably become this fragile probably but between this and that prop like they're both

[00:48:26]   awesome this this is the this is the GemFan 1.6 here so we've got a good frame we've got a good propeller we don't necessarily have the best flight controllers right now for these you

[00:48:47]   can use the 5 amp flight controllers and they're okay but man are we pushing the limits the X12 is like okay but it's oversized which is super annoying so you can only run it in in this m 7 V4

[00:49:02]   or V3 frame if you go 2S Motors are really like the big limiting factor but there's there's not as far as I'm concerned there's not a perfect 75mm setup yet there's not

[00:49:19]   like an off-the-shelf easy to build easy to repair you don't have to customize tons of stuff and then fly it carefully because you spend an hour customizing it you don't want to break

[00:49:31]   it again and have to spend that hour again we're just not there yet with with the 75s we're we're certainly nowhere near where we're at with the 65 builds which

[00:49:47]   is maddening because it's getting to the point where I'm starting to feel like I've spent more time trying to find the magic 75mm formula than I have on the 65 mil stuff

[00:50:02]   that is not true though because like the first year to two of these live streams was like all 65 all the time other than the tiny lifters cuz back then like there wasn't [@$#%] for 75s like they were

[00:50:16]   a disaster back then so it wasn't even worth spending any time on them once we got like the 1 and a half millimeter motor shaft 802s these got a lot better even though that motor

[00:50:29]   doesn't have quite as as much power as I would I wish that it did but there you gothere's a big old 75mm rant for you tiny shark FV says does your golden ratio of tuning also apply

[00:50:45]    for other siiz drones like 2 and a half 3 and a half 5 in absolutely look at the popular motor sizes in all of FPV right right 5in rigs 236 that's 4:1 basically 4:1

[00:51:04]   2207 3:1 7421 right 3:1 4:1 right there 3 in rigs 1404 Motors 4 8 12 16 right in between 3 and four to one it just it happens over and over and over again in FPV that that three or

[00:51:26]   4: one ratio of Motors is where you want to be the way you said tuning are you talking about P to d r p and I to D ratio in the tuning with the sliders if so absolutely having

[00:51:45]   look all it is really it's less of like a golden ratio per se that's a that's a cool name to put on it but it's more of just adding extra Dain additional Dain eats well I

[00:52:01]   mean just Dain in general is what eats prop wash I actually didn't start with the whole like push more degain in thing because of that it was because it Smooths out the footage a little bit

[00:52:19]   additional Dain will very slightly delay the the attack the the the quad going off of set point and then coming back onto set point you you can actually see it in the blackbox logs

[00:52:36]   a rig that has the the sliders down the middle so no like additional D gain basically to the factory P to D ratio it will if if your sticks do this hold on if your sticks do that the quad will

[00:52:54]   damn near perfectly follow that I don't like the way that looks that looks jittery with my fingers because I'm pretty aggressive pushing the sticks out and then bringing them back and that

[00:53:07]   makes the footage look very Poppy and very like Twitchy and I just don't like it I I don't like the way that that looks when I watch that footage back it looks like I'm nervous it looks like I

[00:53:17]   don't know what I'm doing it doesn't have this cool like purposeful more smoothed out look to it that pushing that Dain SL lier up in the old days it would be just adding five extra points

[00:53:30]   to Dain adding 10 extra points to Dain that gives you this instead of like instead of this it becomes and then when it catches up to set point it's does one of these instead of

[00:53:46]   going and so for racing where the footage doesn't matter you don't want to do this unless you're trying to eat up more prop wash then maybe you wouldn't want to push

[00:54:00]   the the Dain as far as I do I I push it pretty aggressively right ratio of pushing it three farther on the slider that's quite a bit and the the main reason I'm pushing

[00:54:15]   it so hard is to get that smoothness but as a nice side effect it absolutely gobbles up prop wash and so it's really nice that it kind of works that way and I do

[00:54:28]   that on absolutely everything I have for a long time this is one of the very first things I learned probably like seven years ago with tuning is that degain is what eats the prop wash p and

[00:54:43]   I gain well not really I gain but P gain is what makes the Quad sharp and so when the wind if you're flying and the wind hits it how quickly it pushes Back Against the Wind to stay because your

[00:54:58]   set point is that you're just cruising straight ahead and then the wind hits it and that pushes it off set point the PID Loop's job is to fight against that and get it back onto set point and so if you

[00:55:11]   lower your P gains really low there will be a noticeable Bobble where the wind pushes it and you don't have enough P gain to attack it quickly enough and so it goes and then it fixes itself and

[00:55:23]   then it's back as you push the P gain up that gets quick quicker and quicker and quicker to the point where you don't even see it whereas Dain is you're

[00:55:33]   pushing you're putting it into its dirty air or you're you're doing like a dive or or I mean it's does in that same scenario actually With the Wind if you have a ton of P gain and not enough D

[00:55:45]   gain to balance it out you're going to get like a noticeable quick Twitchy correction if you push a bunch of d-gain in it's going to smooth that correction out and it's going to make that less no

[00:55:56]   noticeable it just makes the footage look better like straight up like additional Dain just makes footage look better it makes it look less Twitchy less like hky jerky all over the place

[00:56:07]   regardless of if that's you on the sticks or if that's the wind hitting it and what's really F always fascinated me is that the wind hitting it is going to push it off set point you moving the

[00:56:21]   sticks believe it or not outside of feed forward is the way the pit Loop and the rates work when you move the sticks you're actually putting it off of set point and the pit Loop is going to catch

[00:56:34]   up with what you're doing with the sticks feed forward is so good because so think about that right like when you move the sticks it's the same it's almost the same thing as the wind

[00:56:47]   hitting it so it has to react right and so that's why feed forward is so magic because before feed forward and with every other FL FL firmware and this is why none of the other flight firmware

[00:56:58]   will ever catch up with BetaFlight until they Institute some sort of a feed forward setup it's all reactionary so you move the sticks and then the however aggressive your pit Loop is or isn't it

[00:57:10]   has to react to that stick movement when you push the sticks it doesn't push the quad it puts airor into the pit Loop and then the pit Loop reacts to that to that error in the olden days before feed

[00:57:24]   forward and again all the other flight firmware the more aggressive you make your pit tune it is going to affect the way that your rates feel and perform because the more aggressive the pit tune

[00:57:39]   the quicker it's going to react to going off set point when you move the sticks so you have to balance your rates with the pids which is super annoying because when you start moving the pids up a lot

[00:57:53]   of times you'll have to back your rates off because all of sudden you're over rotating on stuff with feed forward it completely takes that out of the equation because feed forward looks at

[00:58:04]   what the sticks are doing and it pushes the quad I I don't run a lot of feed forward because that happens so quickly that the footage starts to kind of look jittery but like for Racers or people that

[00:58:17]   aren't so insane about the footage looking buttery smooth as I am feed forward is a [@$#%] miracle and if I ever build a racing rake it's going to have a ton of feet forward because it

[00:58:29]   works so well you can actually run a pretty loose pit tune and beat the living hell out of the quad but then push a shitload of feed forward in and that'll give you razor sharp reactions

[00:58:42]   so that you have something that's like really durable but it still is like on top of your stick movements so there you go there's a we're ranting tonight my friend

[00:58:57]    peace and love thank you again for the $420 weed number Super Chat much appreciated my friend Curtis Hayes says tell your dad we missing him on

[00:59:08]   stream it's a lot man the fact that he's ever watched any of these streams as a miracle because he's not into FPV and I'm like way down the rabbit hole like like think about watching a a

[00:59:19]   a live stream think about watching a West Coast Swing live stream with people that are like super experienced for hours for 2 hours what I mean like you don't know anything about

[00:59:32]   West Coast Swing why it'd be brutal it's so cool that that he's ever watched these but it is what it is MC buas says shitr run time is my excuse for being

[00:59:45]   late for work whatever works man whatever whatever keeps you employed scrolling back up to see where I was wow okay I'm way way behind all right man we're going to dive into

[01:00:01]   some Q&A here for the next probably 20 minutes or so Beretta is in the house how the hell are you Beretta says maybe I stick to high 102 Motors I wish there were high KV 102 Motors 22,000 KV

[01:00:16]   to me is not really high enough KV 102 Motors are great the the RC and Power 102 22,000 KV Motors are amazing for a 75mm rig that you take outside put the nose down and just rip

[01:00:34]   around just carry a bunch of speed and just cruise around the neighborhood super quiet incredibly durable really really really fun those Motors don't have enough RPM to like hurl you up over

[01:00:49]   stuff and so that's what what really drives me nuts even better believe it or not than the and power 102s are the BetaFPV 1102 22000 they barely weigh any more and they have

[01:01:02]   even more grunt and sometimes I swear to God that they get more runtime it's weird but those two Motors are awesome and it's very fun to go outside and just charge around the neighborhood

[01:01:16]    but it's that is to me that is like old school tiny whooping where you're flying like an RC car forward back left and right can you change elevation of course but it's like a

[01:01:32]   two-dimensional almost flying style and I'm super spoiled with rigs that have more of a three-dimensional flight style basically meaning that they have enough RPM and just raw power at

[01:01:47]   the top of the throttle where they can generate a bunch of upward momentum and so I can like throw them up over stuff and that's just like the next level of sort of flying to me and so

[01:02:00]   then you start looking at like the 802 27,000 KV ow Motors and you get significantly more of that you don't get quite enough of it in my opinion with these guys I do these

[01:02:18]   give me everything that I want the these are how I want a 75mm rig to fly but they're fragile and the runtime sucks and so if we were to scale it all out these two rigs are over here where

[01:02:35]   you get the N I guess these two rigs would be here where you get no no they would be over here they would be over here the 102 rigs are over here where they don't have enough power

[01:02:48]   but they have great runtime oh that's the other thing I forgot to mention 102s and 1102s it's a very wide motor so they stay nice and cool and you get great run time even if you go charging around the

[01:02:58]   neighborhood 50% throttle cruising 60% throttle cruising the motor is so wide that puts a bunch of that motor Bell in the airf flow and that keeps it nice and cool and magnets perform really well

[01:03:10]   when they're nice and cool so those Motors you get great runtime you can charge around the neighborhood it's awesome but you just you miss out on that one thing you miss out on that high

[01:03:17]   KV I I that's why I wish there were 27,000 29,000 KB 102s 11 2S maybe someday we'll get them then you've got the 802 27000 where they're not as efficient but you get more of that RPM and you get

[01:03:38]   more of that upward momentum to start throwing them over the roof and the trees and [@$#%] it's not quite enough this these are enough these have that and so what's interesting is

[01:03:56]   like it would be almost impossible for me if I could only have one 75mm rig I would have a hell of a time choosing between 802 27,000 and 102 or 1102 22,000 because each one of them does a

[01:04:12]   very specific thing really really well neither one of them like really stands out enough these guys do these these really stand out and the flight performance really stands out but then

[01:04:23]   we lose runtime and we lose the the YouTube just completely [@$#%] the bed oh man I just lost all that I just lost the whole chat oh man YouTube why do you suck so

[01:04:40]   bad all right hold on I gotta that's super annoying I'm gonna have lost a whole bunch of a whole bunch of chat comments probably that sucks let's see let's see how much it

[01:04:55]   oh I lost a ton oh man there's like super chats that I can't see oh come on YouTube get your [@$#%] together man all right well I lost everything before 10:39 if you super chatted me before

[01:05:18]   10:39 and I didn't read it yet do me a huge favor and tag me and sayI super haded xll y cents and here's what I said I hate to make you do that but blame YouTube I got nothing mck M says

[01:05:34]    if if you can help with my half mates yes what's a half Maddie I can help you with anything brother I I my ability as an instructor is is pretty damn good I got super lucky and was able

[01:05:48]   to instruct at the racetrack autocross and track days for many many years and just just I I learned how to explain things to people when they're super stressed out

[01:06:04]   doing something really difficult doing something really fast-paced and I also learned how to like explain things in a couple of different ways so that one of those ways will click with their

[01:06:14]   brain so I'm really good at instructing in the simulator with FPV and so I can help you with damn near anything 661 says holy crap weed is selling just the bells for 0702 is with

[01:06:30]   one and a half millimeter shafts five bucks each you're welcome a while ago months ago when zotech told me that he was going to be getting 1 and a half millimeter

[01:06:47]   motor shaft 72s I said dude please please please ask HappyModel if you can get just the bells I will love you long time and he did so you're welcome I'm gonna get a bunch of

[01:07:07]   those tiny shark FPV says thoughts on the spider itsy cin frame especially versus getting just a 2 and a half inch cin frame I've heard good things about it I forget who who makes

[01:07:21]   that but I had a really negative interaction with that person on Facebook he was just for no reason like a total dick to me and so that really tainted my fair warning that that totally

[01:07:34]   tainted my view of his products regardless of that though my main problem with that frame is that there's like no real prop protection like and I get it right like the FAA puts a rule in

[01:07:51]   place that says you have you can have no externally rotating parts that can lacerate the skin and so we take we want something that's going to fly as good as possible and be as light

[01:08:04]   as possible so we will take the tiniest little bit of carbon fiber and we will run it just barely around the outside of where the prop is going to be and [@$#%] you f FAA I made this Frame so that

[01:08:16]   it's is within your rules and away we go well I don't want to be the guy that puts one of these things into it look eventually you're going to have a rig fall out of the sky and it's going to

[01:08:32]   hit somebody and I try really hard to have to use frames that when not if that happens that person does not get [@$#%] up because I don't want to be that guy and so frame is not

[01:08:50]   for me that that that amount of prop protection is just nowhere near enough there are some brilliant there are a ton of great Pilots that run that frame and

[01:09:04]   like I get it and you do you but it's not I'm not doing it that that it is just too sketchy also one piece of carbon fiber like smashing into someone's

[01:09:20]   farhead that's going to I mean carbon fiber is kind of nasty stuff when it's got like an edge on it like that I I it just no that ain't that ain't going to be me

[01:09:37]   but maybe that's me being a [@$#%] old man and yolo [@$#%] [@$#%] everyone else like I don't know if if if that's you I I guess good luck hopefully your [@$#%] doesn't fall out of the sky they

[01:09:50]   all fall out of the sky eventually though right so I don't know maybe I'm being too cautious but I'm not gonna be that guy sorry and so I I need I need more more prop protection

[01:10:02]   than I at the like no I I need more prop protection I I need something above and below the prop line so that like there's not fingers going in there there's not hopefully not hair going in there and I

[01:10:17]   also need if it's going to be straight carbon here I'll show you I need something like I I need something like this like a nice little 3D printed and maybe this exists for that frame on

[01:10:30]   thingiverse it probably does I I need something that's going to like if this hits somebody in the forehead they're not going to the hospital if this hits somebody in the forhead like

[01:10:44]   that might be a hell of a gash and it ain't me so but look that frame because because of how little protection that frame offers it's going to fly amazing right and so and and

[01:11:05]   the better the better a frame F flies the less likely you're going to be to hit someone but I'm not I'm not worried about me hitting someone I'm worried about it falling out of the sky

[01:11:16]   and and hitting someone when I have I have no choice right that's what I'm planning for I'm not necessarily planning for me to hit people like I already like I've got

[01:11:26]   those 3D printed things on the front of that so if I do hit someone right it's fine I go a step further than that and plan on the absolute worst case which is that it's not me being an idiot

[01:11:39]   it's just our awful components that we have no choice but to like just eventually failing as they all do regardless of what you like it doesn't matter if it's acon or

[01:11:53]   or t-motor or hobby Wing or whatever eventually it's going to let go and so that's where I'm at right I'm planning for eventuality so that I'm not that guy hopefully

[01:12:09]   Beretta says I found the HappyModel 0 72s to not hold up to my outdoor bashing I don't really fly the 65mm rigs outside those are those are indoor rigs to me

[01:12:25]    that's one of the big reasons I've been pushing so hard on the on the 75mm stuff we have Motors available that have 1 and a half mil motor shafts although now we're starting to get 72s with 1 and

[01:12:36]   a half mil motor shafts and those are going to be indestructible for life so that's the that's the that's the the solution for you Beretta is to get some of these 0702 HappyModel

[01:12:51]   Bells from wee bed with the 1 and a half mm motor shaft and then you're good to go once I get a bunch of those I am almost certainly going to build an outdoor 65mm rig to just kind of

[01:13:06]   see and then and then I can do a 65 versus 75 outside kind of thing and that'll be that'll be interesting because something that cloud Hopper actually pointed out recently is that

[01:13:22]   the the 65mm rigs are so much lighter now that they actually have better power to rate ratios than I think he said any of the 75mm rigs which is like not totally surprising and so I don't

[01:13:39]   know maybe you never know 65 could be better outside than 75 I doubt it because there's wind outside and the 65mm builds in the wind are just a joke I love

[01:13:53]   flying the 65s at jungle gyms cuz they're so much lighter they're so much more accurate but good God if there is any wind it is like so difficult to accuracy that you had a minute

[01:14:07]   ago when there wasn't any wind is gone because they're getting push so hard from the wind and that's where the the obsession with 75s really came from and the whole like Jungle Gym

[01:14:20]   Basher setup so I don't doubt that 1 mm motor shaft 65mm rigs don't hold up super super super well outside although I've heard the opposite CMYK flies 65s a lot outside and he's been okay with the

[01:14:39]   durability but see that's the thing about durability is that one per like okay durability in one person's eyes can be completely unacceptable for another person and that's okay that's totally

[01:14:51]   okay right that's one of the reasons that I'm so hardcore about Mot motor plugs if you have a build with motor plugs when you wreck a motor it's no big deal you don't have to pull the whole

[01:15:03]   goddamn thing apart to desolder and resolder a new motor you [@$#%] pull three screws you pull the propeller you swap the new one in and you're back up in the air in like 4 minutes versus 40

[01:15:15]   minutes of removing all 12 motor screws pulling the canopy out you're wearing all of those Motors as you pull the screws out every time you're wearing ing the frame every time it's you know

[01:15:28]   so there you go LPB with a $5 Super Chat he says link above Levi you cannot only moderators can put links into the chat something really dumb that YouTube does is that for you you think you put a

[01:15:46]   a link there and it in your chat it looks like you've got that link there nobody else can see it's the stupidest thing ever so tell me what to search for on

[01:15:59]   Google to get to the link that you shared because I I nobody can see your link unfortunately Chet tonian says I made a 2g4 fit an air 75 frame it took a good amount of trimming but

[01:16:12]   nothing excessive running 802 27,000 is my favorite 40mm even with a CO3 and heavy BetaFPV canopy I've got a good call actually I've got a air 75 frame that I clearance to fit a

[01:16:32]    hglrc Spectre AIO which I do not recommend you get I got two in a row and they were both bad right out of the box fets blew up instantaneously on both of them and

[01:16:47]    I I I removed a bunch of material to get that to clear just to kind of give you guys some idea of what that what that looked looks like you can see right here there was a bunch that I

[01:16:59]   had to remove and I had to put a big you can really see it better on the other side that's where like the motor plugs sit so you got to do that and then you got to remove some from in here as

[01:17:11]   well it's totally doable whether or not it'll make this weak to the point where it breaks I doubt it but you never know my main issue with that is again going back to you spend a half an hour

[01:17:29]   modifying this Frame to get the AIO to fit every single time you fly this in the back of your head there's that half an hour and you're never going to push this super super super hard and just not

[01:17:42]   give a [@$#%] if you break it because that if you break it you're going to have to spend that half an hour again and so I really really really try super hard to run off the shelf components so

[01:17:55]   that it's just like just break it fly it as hard as you possibly can don't care about breaking it because breaking it is $3 and 15 minutes of work or or whatever it may be right versus 45 minutes I I

[01:18:13]   totally get it believe me I totally get customizing stuff but once you really start flying hard everything starts breaking and when you've custom when you have that cycle of spending a bunch of time

[01:18:30]   customizing stuff it's adds up it really does start to add up and so there's only a one gram difference between that frame and the Mobula 7v4 and so I'm like no that's that

[01:18:46]   that's not enough to Warrant it if it was a two G difference I'd probably be shaving material from those air 75 Fram cuz that's legit but one G is

[01:18:59]   like no also the the X12 AIO is is full-blown too wide for that air 75 frame like you would have to cut the entire inside of the duct here out to get it to fit and that's just it's just

[01:19:17]   ridiculous the 2g4 you don't have to do that but the X12 is a little bit bigger and so it just absolutely will not fit in this like technically you could get it to fit but it would no you would

[01:19:29]   have to cut the inside of the duct out that's ridiculous B says I put the hd0 ao5 in the air 75 frame with 102 21,000 very cool I am super curious about the the ai5 in a in a 75mm

[01:19:50]   frame I haven't done it because the I've just not been really impressed with the range of hd0 and 75mm rigs are going to be flying outside the house and so at

[01:20:05]   the moment to me for me the best use of that HD zero board is indoor stuff I got to fly that rig more actually I I built that thing and then I I flew a few batteries and

[01:20:19]   then I just kind of stopped flying it I don't know it's again I I I I constantly go back to this thing with hd0 where it's like yes the image quality is is is better than analog but it's not

[01:20:40]   that much better yes the latency is super low but like so is analog and it's just it's just keeps falling into this awkward like Middle Ground where like if I want to be able to see

[01:20:57]   where I'm going Andor to have good DVR it has to be WalkSnail and then if I want to like fly really hard analog is cheaper and lighter and I can still kind of see where I'm going and it's so like

[01:21:13]    I love that it exists though for for look I'm lucky I've got I've got a pair of fat sharks for analog I've got the HD zero goggles set up with analog so for me analog is like no

[01:21:27]   big deal there's loads of people who are looking at spending 150 or $200 on buying an analog set of goggles or a module for their HD zero goggles that's an awful lot of money for those people

[01:21:41]   it makes so much sense to just never go analog and just to get the ao5 so it's amazing that that it exists but for I'm different right like I I have a ton of analog stuff and that

[01:21:58]   changes it a little bit so just B says when I plugged in the USB into the ao5 I shocked myself that I f up the AO I don't know did you I have no idea does it does it still work

[01:22:21]    that's interesting justo says did a nity test and it seems fine I mean you got to put power to it to find out so like there's nothing you can do it's either [@$#%] up or it's not so

[01:22:36]   like just put power to it right like there's you didn't like you didn't like solder two components together or anything weird you just plugged into the computer what I mean so

[01:22:47]   you just you got to just put power to it there's nothing like you can preemptively do before you put Power to it to like bring it back to life I guess you or like make it not be blown

[01:22:59]   up or whatever MC Muka says you don't dig the 2G for just what you don't dig the 2G for just because of the esc's oh oh oh oh yes the only thing that's not genius about the 2g4 is the fact that

[01:23:22]   it's only got five esc's if it if the 2g4 had 12 amp esc's every other AIO could go to hell for Life there'd be no reason to buy any other aiio ever I would buy 50 of the

[01:23:37]   damn things and just sit on them for years and just Dole them out for like $200 per because it would be God's ESC forever unfortunately the 12 amp fets I believe are bigger than the 5 amp fets

[01:23:53]   and like we're already trying to cram a billion things on these aios so I I've yet to find a 12 amp AIO that is anywhere near as good as the 2g4 but if you put Motors that

[01:24:11]   aren't like horrendously overpowered on a 2g4 they're fine the 2g4 Works totally fine with 802 27,000 you pushing it to its absolute Max but I've flown a lot of batteries on

[01:24:27]   that combo and it's been totally fine 102 1102 22,000 KV Motors same deal you are pushing those 5 amp fets to their bitter limit but you're not over that limit to the point where you start

[01:24:42]   getting core temperature warnings all the damn time so but unfortunately all of those Motors just don't have quite enough power for me I just I just want a little bit

[01:25:01]   more so tiny shark FPV with a 250 what is that symbol it's like a squiggly P it's a oh it's a Philippine peso thank you dude 250 Philippine Pesos thank you for that detailed answer you're certainly welcome

[01:25:18]   thank you for supporting the insanity that is doing FPV fulltime Scott FPV says what's up guys been a while since I've had the chance to catch you live I've work working second shift glad

[01:25:28]   to have you back my friend chonan says speaking of bad ideas 2S analog Odin running BetaFPV 1102 18000s off an X12 I have no idea how the x12s are going to be on 2S my guess is that they're

[01:25:43]   going to be not great because like I haven't had a great time with them on on S I I've I've been through two x12s already I've heard from lots of people that they have not had great durability

[01:25:54]   experiences with x12s at the moment it seems like it is the best of the 12 amp Allin ones so that's my main worry is that it's not going to last very long on 2S but 1102 14000 on 2S are

[01:26:13]   going to blast six with 1610 props that's going to absolutely rail the power to weight ratio is going to be nuts because it's an analog rig although the odonata frame I think is a little on

[01:26:34]   the heavy I mean compared to a plastic frame it's a fat bastard in terms of the other 1.6 in frames I think it's maybe a little bit heavier than some of the others I could be dead

[01:26:47]   ass wrong there though but those Motors on 2S are going to make gobs of power and so the fact that that frame is going to be a little bit heavy is it's it's

[01:27:01]   going to offset that my main issue with that build is going to be that without the without the prop guards to slow it down and keep it from sliding around that's a build that like you're going to

[01:27:16]   have a little bit of trouble so that's that isn't obviously like a front yard backyard setup if you're front and backyard is like mine where there's a whole bunch of really cool little gaps

[01:27:28]   to shoot in between bushes and plants and [@$#%] not having the prop guards that thing's going to be very slidy and it's going to make hitting those gaps a little bit annoying a

[01:27:41]   lot harder than something like this the the magic the absolute magic of these two things on these big power motors is that it's enough power to like throw it and play play vertically around around

[01:27:54]   the trees and whatnot but then when you slow down and you pull the throttle down and you fly at 30% throttle it's light enough and it's super accurate like a little razor and you you see me

[01:28:05]   shooting in those tiny little gaps next to the right side of the front door and that's so much fun it's so cool to be able to slow down and shoot that little stuff and duck in in here oh

[01:28:15]   there's a tiny little Gap there I can get through there and then and then when you're when you get sick of flying small you can Hammer the throttle and send it up to the the Treetops and then dive

[01:28:25]   back down and it's this like again going back to balance like these from a flight characteristic standpoint are like very balanced and you can do much like a 5-in rig you can fly them big as

[01:28:40]   hell or you can fly them small they have this like incredible range of performance you don't get that range of performance with the the lower powered motors you don't get that range of

[01:28:54]   performance when you remove these prop guards because there's nothing to stop it from sliding right it's just it becomes way more aerodynamic from this perspective and the more aerodynamic it

[01:29:08]   is here the worse the slide is going to be when you're flying Straight Ahead or when you're flying towards a gap and you got it a little bit wrong and you make the correction the more a the the the more

[01:29:20]   aerodynamic it is the more it's going to want to not correct with you and then you're going to have to overcorrect or you're going to have to lose the Horizon and pull one of these and then you go

[01:29:29]   towards the Gap doing that and it looks terrible so man these these things are these 75s are super interesting because of that but it's just we have not found the perfect motor

[01:29:44]   quite yet but we will maybe Beretta Beretta says sent you the chat via Discord what chat is oh awesome thank you very cool oh Discord really there we go oh my God rad

[01:30:05]   teleport FPV with a $5 Super Chat he says thanks for the honesty and the shared knowledge thank you for supporting me my friend it is my pleasure Levi FPV with a $5 Super Chat I

[01:30:15]   think I might have gotten that one berdetta thank you so much this is awesome opening browser and then there's Levi and all right cool so I don't think I I missed that much I

[01:30:30]   I I caught all the the tags and we are good sweet teleport FPV says [@$#%] happens just sent a few bucks your way and said thanks for all the knowledge you share dude thank you

[01:30:43]   very much 661 FPV says I have the 2g4 and an air 75 just had to direct solder the camera to the flight control oh oh right that's the the camera plug right right right good call just had the

[01:30:58]   direct side of the camera to the flight controller there are pads on the bottom yep that aren't too hard to solder didn't have to remove the cam plug from the flight control I

[01:31:05]   actually have a I have a Mobula 6 canopy and a and a RunCam nano3 here with no plug on it because this is what I had on my the the most recent X12 that failed the one of the things that

[01:31:19]   failed before the whole thing [@$#%] the bed was that camera plug broke off of it and so I direct soldered it on here so that's so the the that'll be the other thing that you have to do to get a

[01:31:32]   2g4 into an air 75 frame you're going to have to clearance where I showed you guys earlier and then you're also going to have to direct side of the camera because that that camera plug

[01:31:42]   is going to be too far out and it's going to push into the duct and you do not want that because that will be basically hard mounting the AO and then all the vibrations from the motors and

[01:31:51]   props will dump straight into that AIO and it'll suck drones in FPV says so I just plugged in my air 75 and went to move it and felt something burn me it's the tip of

[01:32:07]   the antenna never seen this before what's going on that's antennas that that's that is normal it's so funny it like you almost never touch the the tip of the antennas to have that happen

[01:32:24]   if you don't want it to happen again just take a little bit of E6000 what you've got going on is that you've probably crashed that rig a bunch and it has it has like ground away at the

[01:32:38]   the silicone that's around the metal the the the actual the active element of the antenna and so you've previously you had like the silicone and then the metal the metal active element was down in the

[01:32:53]   silic a little bit well you've crashed it and ground away the silicone so now you've got a little bit of that active element peeking out and that's what burns you that's totally normal

[01:33:02]   you can just put a little bit of little bit of E6000 on the tip there so that it's Rubber and it's not metal and that won't happen again that's a it's funny that happened to me

[01:33:13]    a couple of weeks ago and I was like wow I remember like it hadn't happened to me in years and it you don't get that with like these other style antennas you only get that with those

[01:33:27]   whip style antennas this you'll never have it with like a with a circular polarized antenna right it's all plastic you'll never have that happen that's a

[01:33:40]   that's a funny thing that will happen to everyone at some point Chet tonian with a $10 Super Chat thank you brother here's a great stuff very interesting thoughts on the

[01:33:51]   2s stuff thanks you're certainly welcome Dr also says 100% I'm being shocked from the tip of the whip bit of real what's up with that it's actually heat it's just heat it's not

[01:34:04]   shocking you it just gets hot dronen says that's wild in my seven years of FV never had that happen I it I when it when it happened to me like I said a few weeks ago I couldn't remember the

[01:34:16]   last time that it happened but I know that it had happened before because it's wasn't it wasn't a moment of like like what the hell's going on it was a moment of like oh my God it's been a

[01:34:27]   long time since that happened to me so it's funny ctis says it's called an RF burn interesting I can't imagine that on big ass antennas that's I'm sure people that

[01:34:43]   deal with big ass antennas know about that and avoid it cuz like I that that might be nasty I'm caught up on chat look at me go let's fly my friends did I do all the things I put in

[01:34:59]   the title of the stream six batteries 75 MIM battle Q&A look at us getting some [@$#%] done let's fly the smaller Motors first rc and power 0 703s 27,000 KV

[01:35:18]   HQ farts HQ farts bro HQ ultra light 1.6 in by blades I'm going to use the hd0 goggles because I'm going to DVR this and then I'll have a folder on my desktop with indoor and outdoor flying

[01:35:43]   with these setups because like I said I'm pulling both of these apart if there's a chance I will sell these motors so if you want slightly banged up slightly banged up RCN power 0703

[01:36:03]   27000 or a little bit more banged up than those VCI 82.8 27,000 let me know eventually they'll be up on the on the Etsy store but if you want to get them before

[01:36:18]   that message me because I like with 1 mm motor shafts I just I'm just going to make him even worse all right let's do thisfor the record having a nice big bright LED on

[01:36:45]   the back like this makes these so much easier to find outside when you crash them this is an awesome little piece from Tiny whoop.com it's a an infinitely small and lightweight little PCB that

[01:37:01]   functions as a 180 Dee bt2.0 it comes with a bt2.0 you solder it on there you solder a set of wires on these things are amazing I've got a whole bunch of these coming I'm going to be putting

[01:37:14]   these on everything and you should too these are great Jesse has them in a whole bunch of different colors highly highly highly recommended next time you can't find your tiny whoop

[01:37:27]   after you've crashed it imagine it being that bright it is like proper proper proper brightness it's hard to show it there's a lot of light in this basement but it's really bright even like in

[01:37:50]    broad daylight outside it was very easy to see all right here we go cooking a hot dog oh my God I knew it I knew there I knew that would be a crazy thing ah there he is oh boy

[01:38:10]   what was that what oh my God ah okay all right I got to I've been flying 65s in the house I have to recalibrate to the very different flight experience of something this heavy and

[01:38:29]   Powerful inside the house so just give me a second okay oh my God there we go already with a core temperature warning Jesus Christ son a cracker there we go let's get it upstairs oo it's

[01:38:49]   getting hot 0703 is a Powerhouse for sure but as a motor size it's just not wide enough to stay cool to stay cool enough in my opinion nice and light great power but

[01:39:16]    a bit of a cursed motor size in my opinion if I were to put it into a lighter weight rig that would help for sure that's about it that's about the only way you'd be able to get that under

[01:39:38]   control whoa or if I just flew less hard right like if I just kind of cruise around that core temperature warning will go away it's popping up cuz I'm hammering Full Throttle all the time you

[01:40:04]   know this is shockingly flyable in here the motors are nice and Light which makes this more flyable than than most 75mm rigs would be inside the house still kind of tough it's still a

[01:40:21]   heavy rig nothing like a 65 ah you hear that noise just now when it hit the door that's not a noise that you get with the 65 Mill rigs that's the noise of like break your

[01:40:38]   [@$#%] ah like I'm terrified that I'm going to break some [@$#%] over on the bar cart with with one of these 75s as it hurls itself towards the bar cart oh Teddy careful

[01:41:02]   boy this is a heavier more Angry quad oh whoa so the the other big problem with the core temperature warnings is that you will not get any other warnings such as idiot your battery is low I just

[01:41:18]   hammered the [@$#%] out of this battery let me put it right on the charger 3. Ah that's not too bad it bounced back to 3.7 that's not terrible all right I'm going to get that back

[01:41:33]   up to 3.8 though one more quick one on this guy here hold on let me let me put this in the BetaFlight and take a quick look one of these x12s is a BMI 270 the other one is an

[01:41:51]   ICM 26880 680 I forget let me see which one this is chonan says it's weird to me I've been flying the 0703 on an X12 I've yet to see a core temperature warning and getting two and a half to

[01:42:10]   three minutes I'm guess I'm not flying as hard as you outside versus inside the you can make these 0703 is work but it how hard you fly has a lot to do with all this stuff and I fly hard I

[01:42:24]   use Full Throttle constantly and when I'm outside I'm just hammering and so you can make these motors work if you just Cruise them around you can get three minutes

[01:42:37]   that's not how I want to fly though patiently waiting for BetaFlight to open this is why I'm not saying likedon't buy these motors I I present you guys this info I show

[01:42:59]   you the flight footage I show you how I'm flying and if you fly exactly the same you're going to get a similar experience but if you don't fly that hard then the things are going to

[01:43:11]   it's going to change a little bit e do says what's it like flying for two minutes or more buddy boy what's that noise you're making apparently BetaFlight has just ceased to

[01:43:29]   be oh okay that was weird as soon as I unplugged the I guess that I'm going to assume that was a coincidence that was weird as soon as I unplugged the quad it stopped

[01:43:41]   bouncing turn these goggles off why is it not connecting man I had this problem before it plugs it in just nothing nothing happened what the hell

[01:44:12]   berer it's getting power from the USB it's powering up from the USB but it's not it's not showing up here where I need it to show up hear that beep that's it getting power and firing up the

[01:44:25]    the receiver what the [@$#%] going on oh did this oh no this other one's fine this is one of the things that made me all Angry earlier it's this X12 this X12

[01:44:47]   is is not passing data what the hell was that YouTube just [@$#%] the bed again what the [@$#%] is going on dude what the hell I Hate Everything why can't anything work like

[01:45:21]   we've been making things and making websites and making the internet for how long now why does it why does everything not just work tonian says my computer is unhappy why are you unhappy computer

[01:45:54]    that that's not related to this though I just plugged in that other X12 and it's completely fine this this X12 is apparently dead because like if I can't get it to connect to Beta flate it's worthless to

[01:46:15]   me okay well anybody want an X12 that you can't hook up to BetaFlight what the hell I plug in this other one again just to confirm yep nope this one's fine it's this specific

[01:46:39]   X12 oh wait a second so let's see right stream's totally fine watch this I'm gonna plug in this X12 oh no I thought maybe something about this X12 was [@$#%] with the

[01:46:58]   computer well okay so that's three x12s that have failed on me I know I can still fly this but I mean that like that's a failure this this AO is

[01:47:11]   broken not having USB is a I mean you can't even plug I I can't even plug a I wanted to be able to plug a Speedy be into this what I mean this is wow okay

[01:47:28]   so I mean that that that's pretty much the nail in the coffin for the X12 as far as I'm concerned so there is not there is not a half decent 12 Vamp iio it does not exist

[01:47:45]   the hglrc Spectre is a nightmare and the the H the x12s are us useless too wow okay well I guess now I've got a oneway whoop so I'll put garbage on this and send it into Oblivion and

[01:48:04]   just start flying it like really hard that is incredibly annoying okay well we'll put another battery through it [@$#%] watch this come on there we go oh this will be

[01:48:26]   fun oh these poor Motors are going to get absolutely obliterated though I won't go that hard oh man this hobby is something else the lack of quality we get in these components is mindblowing

[01:48:53]    get a little of that oh [@$#%] oh God so it begins oh no oh get as hot as you want core temperature oh let's do it oh oh that was a big one oh [@$#%] I thought I was going to

[01:49:42]   pull that one [Laughter] off look at the flight performance dude come on can somebody make these motor in a 1 and a half mil shaft please oh H

[01:50:01]   hard unhinged flying we we'll call this oh get out of there get out of there come on come on so this is like the dog's toy area it is just forever a

[01:50:31]   nightmare oh God thank Christ know if I was going to get out of there oh this battery's done wow I ate that battery quick get you some that's B batter is going to catch

[01:50:53]   on fire sorry little battery I bounced back okay there you go oh oh one of those hits was hard this battery's all bent up oh this battery is hot toothis battery is boiling hot from that

[01:51:22]   see that that's that I I just hurt this battery you just watched me like really damage this battery I'm going to get it up to storage voltage at the very that's the least I can do it's already at storage

[01:51:36]   voltage it was sagging like a son of a [@$#%] all right if you ever wondered how to destroy your batteries that's how right there discharge them in a minute and a half let me plug it in one more

[01:51:51]   time just just in case well let's try turning off elrs and we'll turn this off maybe there's some weird there's not it's broken it's not coming up it's just stuck in manual

[01:52:09]   selection what a pain in the ass chonan says I bet you fly a few packs plug it in again it works nope Bren says you have a Chromebook in the house I don't know this is a this is a strictly no piece PC

[01:52:22]   household that's not true sage has a PC bran says I had I had to fix my buddy's laptop last night as it couldn't connect to just one AO what turns out

[01:52:35]   that that one AIO needed to use a different port and that one was taken by some device what what is that about I don't really think Max work that way but I don't know much about computers so I

[01:52:49]   could be wrong e do says is it SPI yes yes if it is if it's not you can BetaFPV you can BetaFPV via express lrs what's that mean you can oh you canBetaFlight

[01:53:14]   you oh oh that's right there's that weird there's that weird e thing man I I I remember that from a while back no it's SPI good call e do says as they said in Space Balls even in the future

[01:53:34]   nothing works that's right that's right in Space Balls nothing works I forgot about that chonan says buying $80 Windows laptop and use it exclusively forBetaFlight

[01:53:48]   no no no windows can go to hell forever bran says you should be using app. beta flight.com from now on needs a Chromebase browser what I didn't know that was a

[01:54:09]   thing what what what it's not showing up in here either no compatible devices found so I have to quit out of this maybe no no it's not showing up in here either this is cool though I didn't know

[01:54:40]   this existed the hell how nice is that man I remember in the olden days when there was a beta fight Chrome app I loved it when that went away I was sad

[01:54:53]    know it's not showing up here either is broken it's broken whatever welcome to FPV where everything breaks for no reason forever always chonan says what pit Loop frequency you're running

[01:55:17]   on those x12s the one of them that's BMI 270 is whatever the BMI 270 is 3.3 or whatever the [@$#%] it is I did unplug and replug Brandon the other one is 4K all these

[01:55:32]   are f4s so you really don't want to go beyond 4K I'll try it one more time just replugged it goggles are off transmitters off nothing it's broken oh replug then click can't find my

[01:55:53]   device but if you click autoconnect it just works no compatible devices found cancel autoc connect connect I got nothing select your device I can't find no compatible devices found cancel

[01:56:14]   autoconnect nah nothing nothing unplugging replugging now autoconnect is turned on can't find now I closed the other BetaFlight now it's busted nothing oh well yep it's

[01:56:48]   Chrome 82.8 build the X12 that's not broken flat part away from me here we go this is the rig with all the with all the vibrations and whatnot so buckle up

[01:57:17]   buttercups USB port is broken or dirty I think it's broken it could be dirty n not dirty it's like brand new it looks fine the where it's soldered to the board looks fine too and it's not like

[01:57:48]   wiggling around or anything it's strong weird whatever nothing in FPV ever works we should be used to this by now sometimes stuff works though and then it's like man that's cool all right

[01:58:05]   noticeably heavier noticeably heavier we're we're going to weigh these two in a minute yeah this is oh I missed it this is a lot of a lot of jam for inside the

[01:58:34]   house ah I tried to Matty flip it down into the cube oh I missed it again oh man the core temperature warnings on these [@$#%] 75mm builds are just obnoxious

[01:58:58]   hey nope ah that was an embarrassing crash I just wanted to drop down and do this oh no no I can't believe I caught that oh God again because of the core temperature warning I'm getting no

[01:59:45]   battery low warnings which I personally really rely on minute and 45 what a joke no I mean these voots are cool and all but boy they they just they're just too much they're they're just

[02:00:01]   hitting these oh this battery is Mega hot too Jesus know God damn I was I was moving the plug around and loading up the USB plug up down left and right too to try to get

[02:00:17]   it to work before and it and it's was that didn't make a difference I forgot to mention that a second ago I thought that was when when it when it happened to the AO earlier in the

[02:00:33]   day today that's what I thought it was because it's did connect like one last time but now it won't connect at all these HD zero goggles just did a huge white

[02:00:56]   Flash oh my God it's in a box oh my God Teddy this is not the quad that you want to tangle with my little fuzzy friend ah there it was I was trying to do that before this is so much for in

[02:01:18]   here oh man I dropped it in here perfectly to do all I dropped it in here I I okay come on you bastard Teddy don't do it Teddy Teddy back up what [@$#%] it let it get caught in your beard

[02:01:49]   you're getting groomed tomorrow anyway [Laughter] oh oh man what I just noticed too when you bump into stuff with this the burst of throttle that it gets is like Mega like with a 5- in

[02:02:07]   rig like when you when you hit a tree branch with a 5-in rig it's like the end of the [@$#%] world this is the same way how is that stuck what the hell oh wait's because I'm flying it and I I can get

[02:02:22]   anything stuck anywhere ever stop Teddy Jesus man like went after it I'm going to beat you dog wait till this live stream is over you're getting beaten back up

[02:02:52]   oh God I can't screw around with oh Teddy hold on that's a little too hot this is the X12 that still works I don't want to cook it there we go coming

[02:03:07]   down see all those vibrations oh I almost hit myself in the head that was a full-blown eyes closed moment ah okay here we go great Plinko engaged come on oh God don't destroy

[02:03:42]   everything these are woo these are challenging to fly in the House 2 minutes and 5 there we go we got over the 2minute Mark but again this batter is going to be absolutely on

[02:03:56]   fire it's not as bad this battery is not as bad as the one that that just came off of it for sure it's all right know this this this one was not too hot the one that came off a

[02:04:16]   minute ago was was boiling though was way too hot like like the batteries is now hurt hot well there you go friends if you want Power these motors will give you the

[02:04:33]   power that's for sure I think that I I I believe don't quote me on this but I believe that butterfly FPV also came to the same conclusion about I I think about these maybe both of these I think

[02:04:48]   he's tested both of these motors definit Ely one of these two Motors very recently he came to the exact same conclusion that yes the power is awesome and they fly great but they're just too

[02:05:02]   hard on the battery and I think it's cuz they're too tall I really do I I think that I mean the it's funny the reason that the flight characteristics are so good on these motors is the

[02:05:19]   problem the fact that these motors are so tall is why they make the extra power the fact that they're not wide is why they're so lightweight but then we've just we've gone a little bit too far

[02:05:33]   with them essentially and so the the and this this is actually like a really good this is really good data because what this shows us is that on 080 an

[02:05:54]   8 point an8 by 2.8 that ratio of width to height and a 703 those ratios are it's not enough we need more width we need wider Motors than that in order for them to stay cool in these

[02:06:19]   kind of situations at this kind of KV the other thing that I forgot to mention is that these propellers are the lowest pitch lightest weight 1.6 in props that are available

[02:06:33]   so that it's not like oh it's just cuz you're running too aggressive props no if I mov these over to GemFan 1610s the situation would get significantly worse they would make more power but

[02:06:45]   the situation would get would get way worse so the the the if you want to fly like I fly the ratio of width to height needs to be closer both of these guys are Less Than 3 to one you have to be

[02:07:07]   at the very least at 3 to one or I think you really want to be at three and a half to one or even four to one width height ratio if you're going to be this high of a KV that noise that you

[02:07:21]   hear is Teddy yawning when this dog yawns he yawns like us you like when you yawn you're like right that noise Teddy either learned that from us or I don't know but that's how he yawns when he yawns he

[02:07:38]   goes and it's absolutely hysterical what are you doing why are you so jacked up you're all jacked up on goofballs but you're yawning all over the place oh you fart bag bastard you

[02:07:54]   he's getting groomed tomorrowenjoy this crazy we're Bo both Teddy and I are getting groom tomorrow actually enjoy the full full length snower hair now because it's gone it'll be it will not be as

[02:08:12]   goodlooking on Friday look what look how mangy he looks but he pulls mangi off just like his dad he pulls Ang off very well you are such a funny little boy man are you a pain in the ass sometimes but

[02:08:33]   boy you make me laugh when I'm not crying what are you doing what are you doing up there you sniffing my keyboard stop that stop pushing the keyboard what are you doing

[02:08:54]   what are you up to what you what what's What's your deal look at this look at this hair these look at these Paws look at that look how fluffy look at this look at all this

[02:09:15]   hair me and this dog just hang out man we just hang out after these live streams for hours stays up all night with me now he goes to sleep you're a good dog teddy

[02:09:40]    spaghetti look at you look at you good boy all all right friends thanks for hanging out I'll see you guys on Friday at 7 o'clock no Curtis he just bites bro doesn't matter how you hold this dog he

[02:10:06]   just bites it's just what he does I don't I don't pick him up by his armpits when I hold him I'm actually like holding him by his body I'm not like loading up his armpits

[02:10:17]   I I I've always wondered about that it's always seemed like when like you shouldn't pick dogs up from under their armpits see I I I get him by his little fat body part like in

[02:10:30]   here all right buddy you can go you can go he just bites constantly like if you're if you're hanging out with this dog he's biting you he's a bitey boy but he's only like barely two so he'll

[02:10:45]   he's in all of the all of the all of the miniature schneer people say that from one year to three years they're Velociraptors so he is firmly in Vero Velociraptor age mode whatever get

[02:11:03]   away take your chicken out of here bye wait no here's flying it outside nope because I pulled the memory card here's something else here's me flying around1 billion dollar worth of Exotics

[02:11:22]   at the gig on Friday see you n n a