

[00:03:06] Fu don't be like this please hang on everything was completely fine the past couple of streams oh please don't be like this kind of fitting though for honest hang on right
[00:03:42] well there it is let's see if it runs even remotely decent what's up guys Friday it's Friday it's Friday we're going to look at these RC and power 1021 19000s
[00:04:07] tonight moderators please prevent me from completely losing my mind and exactly what I mean in the chat crom was first cold pow Bob Bruce LOL I I've had to restart the
[00:04:26] computer already so I lost a bunch of the chat but hello all the ksen PTO 801 Bob Bruce Frank Nicholas Gusto FPV Douglas 6 thrash FPV Spaceman spiff doubles FPV
[00:04:41] kro Curtis Hayes Scotty Scott Cloud Hopper fre lojo thrash again Gusto D cabaca random videos daily Smoking Dog Kujo Preston roach Uriel Dave S Kevin J what's up
[00:05:01] if you want to talk to me in the chat all you got to do is type c FPV if you want to support me head on over to se fpv.one Pito says jfyi solution
[00:05:32] jfyi oh I think just FYI for Mo for Motors not not starting at full battery was to lower startup power interesting good good good good troubleshoot dude for 28,000 KV 1100 men 1200 Max
[00:05:51] worked for 40,000 I had to go even lower the issue was only with higher capacity batteries the the higher capacity batteries are not going to sag as
[00:06:06] much so that makes sense super cool that that makes a lot of sense that makes a lot of sense thrash FV says can you recommend the air 511 for durability hell no at this point or is it still too early to
[00:06:22] truly tell the big problem with not just the air 5 And1 but all of the new new aios all of the new Ultra lightweight aios basically when I say that I just mean the both of the BetaFPV ones and the
[00:06:39] HappyModel one because this is happening on all of them is the UFL ports are super fragile to the point where like you just shouldn't remove the if it comes with an antenna on the UFL
[00:06:56] Port Port you should leave that antenna you should E6000 it down and that's it that is the antenna that that board has forever I think it actually makes the most sense to buy the BetaFPV air 5 in1
[00:07:14] by itself not a part of the BNF and then it should come without an antenna snap to it get yourself an ort micro and snap that on there you 6,000 it down and then that's the
[00:07:32] antenna that that thing has forever although here's the problem with that the problem with that is going to be that the the micro V antenna you're going to have to feed it
[00:07:46] through the the canopy and it's not going to be able to go through th this head on the antenna is going to be too big to go through any of the holes in the canopies so if you ever need to
[00:07:57] switch canopies you're going to have to you're going to have to remove that antenna and that's going to potentially rip that UFL Port off
[00:08:16] so I don't know as far as I'm concerned it's the the the 2g4 is still available all over the place wee bed has them I think pyro drone and get FP you both have them as
[00:08:31] well it's not that much heavier than the air 5 And1 and the the new HappyModel Super X so just run that I'm I will not spend a dime on either of the new aios just because of how
[00:08:53] fragile the UFL ports are it's just silly that that's just insane that you can't unplay plug and plug antennas without ripping the UFL Port off so that's kind of where
[00:09:06] I'm at with it everyday with Bruno says good day hope all is well Bruno nothing as well nothing as well abam says what's up Cloud Hopper says have you tried the X12 Pro AIO yet picked up a few
[00:09:26] and have built one so far it's been too rainy to fly it yet I forget what the difference is between the X12 and the X12 Pro but I have not tried it yet if I buy
[00:09:44] another X12 it's will be the X12 Pro I think the main I I think the X12 Pro is only available on AliExpress and I don't order from overseas anymore
[00:09:59] I'm Uriel says spit's out you're in a bad mood every day with Bruno says palpe thank you dude speaking of I I assume this is you Bruno Bruno aroyo welcome to the gangly gang man thank
[00:10:17] you for the support joining the the patreon very very cool of you man oh I got to jump on that Mark is unre Bruno with a $20 PayPal thank you dude so much he says 10 bucks for you 10
[00:10:33] bucks for Teddy thank you dude very very cool let's in honor of Bruno there we go Teddy eats well tonight thank you dude very very cool and I said welcome to the
[00:10:51] gangly gang brother you're going to love it sleepy CBR jumping back onto the PayPal or whatever it is the the website patreon patreon welcome back to the gang gang friend not that you ever really
[00:11:21] left Jesus I other than this this is completely off limits as I'm sure that you guys can can already tell and know but I'm putting two things into the chat that you guys should watch unless
[00:11:52] you're a coward the thing that I just put into the chat if you're not a coward watch it's says everything that needs to be said absolutely perfectly if you are on the right side of this
[00:12:09] I'm going to put something into the chat now these are both in General on Discord if you're on the right side of this but you're not willing to punch somebody in the face I want you to watch
[00:12:22] what what I just put into the chat it's very important if you have anybody in your I have a funny feeling that you guys are all good but if you have some if you have one of these people in your
[00:12:32] life that's like oh it just just ignore everything is going to be fine like the second thing that I just put is what you should try to get in front of them because it's just not
[00:12:49] enough it's just it's not enough to just I'm going to leave it there watch those two things they are two of the best things that that I've seen double says you're not alone
[00:13:10] a lot of us are num right now we got each other Northern Tier says with you man all the way all right that's it we're not we're not again actually all right so
[00:13:24] frojo and Frank you're the only moderators it's looking like in chat just be as as don't ban anybody but time people out and I'll see that I I I really I I'm moving on I need you guys to be
[00:13:42] like there on top of it because I'm just the anger is starting to come and I don't that it doesn't Jesus Christ thank you for most of you guys thank you you know
[00:14:19] why I I've I've really tried super hard over the last like 6 months to be much less outspoken about this stuff frankly because it's not good for my business and
[00:14:34] it's I I'm basically just not successful enough to be able to just say [@$#%] it and just fly off the handle all the time anymore and so I don't want that to
[00:14:48] start tonight because if it's gonna happen one night it's going to be tonight I've got some stuff and we're gonna we're g to move on Aber you're you're not the one that's going to get
[00:15:03] timed out brother for saying that Abra the ham with a 1999 Super Chat thank you dude he says a feel bro spit his flux out here thank you dude I have a couple things that I I I don't necessarily know
[00:15:19] if I'm going to bother putting on the Etsy store eventually maybe I will this is a TS 100 although these this soldering iron tip works on a lot of stuff this is a very interesting
[00:15:30] soldering iron tip this is Drew Camden's favorite which is why I got it and I just it's nice don't get me wrong but I just like the regular flat one better that I've been using
[00:15:43] forever this one's nice because you'll get a bigger contact patch you'll get a bigger contact patch with the work from this there you go and you can still use like the the sharp tip part I used
[00:16:06] this a few times and then decided that the regular flat tip is is what I want is what I'm going to use but you guys might like it like I said it's Drew's favorite so I know it's you know
[00:16:17] some people will like it so there's that I have this beat up set of VCI 82.8 27,000 if you just want to see what this motor size flies like perfect if you want your footage to not have jell not
[00:16:40] perfect if you're going to buy a set of these motors and you would like an extra set of Staters for them perfect these Staters are completely fine two of these motors have significantly bent
[00:16:53] motor shafts that will cause jello with HD footage I'm pretty picky with this stuff most people will probably be totally okay with this set of Motors but I'm just telling you right off the bat
[00:17:04] these motor two of the motor shafts are bent more than what I'm willing to put up with the other two Motors are pretty decent but these motors have been crashed a bunch and they only have 1 mm
[00:17:16] motor shaft so fair warning these will be super cheap but they're you're not going to have vibration free footage even on analog but they're not so bad that they don't fly like the rig
[00:17:29] will totally fly fine it's just that you will start to get some vibrations at certain throttle values in your flight footage but the pit Loop can handle them and so I said if if you
[00:17:39] just want to fly these motors to see what they're like this will totally work for you Charles Adams thank you for joining the patreon dude very very cool of you welcome to the gangly gang my
[00:17:52] friend I've also got a set of M4 M4 for God's sakes I forget the name of these stick ends but these are the Weeble versions of them these are resin printed stick ends I actually
[00:18:11] really like these I was really looking forward to using these but I got the wrong ones these are M4 the qx7 is M3 so these are absolutely brand new and they come with a little nuts to
[00:18:25] to lock them down and then I have a set these newbie drone flow 0804 14,000 KV Motors that I don't know these are the motors that came with the the 03 carrying newbie drone rig so if you
[00:18:48] have that build and you want some extra Motors some extra Bells some extra Staters these are good to go these are brand new I put like three batteries through these so these are as good as
[00:18:58] new cool yuriel I I just read what you wrote but I'm just I'm moving on I appreciate it though Ray saying hi Frank Nicholas says type his online name accurately in chat
[00:19:19] like this y FPV so thank you for that Frank Mario beans there you go Mario you got it on that one yep at cfpv or just c FPV you got to spell it right and you don't want to put spaces in
[00:19:33] there you can do that if you guys want to see what the orange highlight looks like just type your own name into your chat comment and you'll be able to see for yourself that it lights up in Orange
[00:19:43] but that's it you guys can do that with each other if somebody wants to get raise fpvs attention in your chat message type r a z space FPV and for raise his own name will light up an
[00:19:53] orange Mario Bean says do you have a live stream that shows your BetaFlight setup for for a 2S WalkSnail build that's a it's a good question I I I I I don't know if I ever went through
[00:20:08] BetaFlight let's just do it now maybe here's how you would find it here's a really cool little YouTube trick that I didn't know about until very very recently when you're on
[00:20:23] someone's Channel there's a little magnifying glass here that's like kind of hard to see when you click this you can search in just that person's channel so for your question I would search
[00:20:36] for 2S WalkSnail right and then it's going to pull up all of the live streams that have 2S and WalkSnail in the title of the stream in the description or I think
[00:20:48] even in the comments right so in theory this live stream here finishing the 2S WalkSnail freestyle whoop this probably has the BetaFlight setup in it but we're working on that rig tonight
[00:21:03] so I'm just going to plug into it and we'll take a look because it I I have changed the the BetaFlight setup a little bit on that build since then I I've I've dialed it in a little bit
[00:21:20] more and so that that that video probably has it pretty damn close to perfect but there could be like one or two simple things I'm G to blast through this because you guys can just
[00:21:37] pause on each one of these screens for it don't copy my rates over figure your own rates out don't copy my tune over figure your own tune out you won't you'll you'll barely need to tune a
[00:21:54] 2s WalkSnail 75mm rig though because 2S is so powerful to response time is so good you won't really need it also don't copy stuff like the ports over unless you're going to use the
[00:22:08] exact same AO and unless you're going to solder up to the exact same pads on the AIO but here you go here's the setup top to bottom you can pause on each one of these screens take a screenshot
[00:22:23] whatever whatever you need to do but this is my 2S setup this is using the BetaFPV I want to say 12 amp 12 amp 1 to 2S AIO version three feel sa if you don't really
[00:22:42] need to see presets you don't really need to see wow I've really pushed the pids I mean it's flies totally fine on the stock pids but I I I like seeing how far that I
[00:22:56] can push the pit tune to elim absolutely every molecule of prop wash with the 19,000 KV Motors you're going to want this motor output limit down here at around 70 to
[00:23:12] 80 or so so again don't copy R rates don't copy the throttle midpoint if you want to use throttle Expo watch my live stream about throttle Expo the throttle Expo amount is not
[00:23:31] build dependent it is build and pilot dependent and it's also location dependent if you fly it in a small spot the throttle midpoint is going to need to be adjusted if you were just if you
[00:23:45] set it flying at a mediumsized spot or a big spot so if you're going to use throttle Expo you really need to understand it and I spent like 45 minutes to an hour on a live stream a
[00:23:57] while ago just search my my channel for throttle Expo you'll find it very easily if you're not going to take the time to understand throttle Expo don't use it zero this out right here instead
[00:24:09] of point 4 just set it to zero and don't use throttle Expo if you don't fully understand throttle Expo and you try to use it you will make the situation worse I guarantee it throttle Expo is either
[00:24:21] absolutely dialed in perfectly and it's helping you or it's a little bit off or it's way off and it's hurting you so either understand it put the work in spend a little bit of time really you
[00:24:33] know digest it or just don't use it setting the midpoint all the way down to zero Chet tonian is an interesting way to adjust the to adjust the hover point but
[00:24:50] unfortunately in the process of adjusting the hover Point you're going to reduce the amount of throttle resolution that you've got so if the hover point is so bad that the rig is
[00:25:01] almost unflyable using a zero midpoint basically what what you're going to what you're the situation you're going to have you're going to have to balance what's worse the
[00:25:16] throttle resolution or the hover point if the hover point is so bad that you're willing to sacrifice making the throttle resolution worse then you can do that if not if the throttle resolution is
[00:25:30] already a problem or it's just not good or whatever I wouldn't do it because setting that midpoint at zero it makes the throttle resolution better at like 1% throttle at the very bottom of
[00:25:46] the curve and we don't spend any time at 1% throttle so the Improvement is going to be all the way at at 01 2% throttle and then as We Know with throttle Expo there's a tiny little area that gets a
[00:26:02] benefit and then the rest of the throttle is hurt by throttle Expo this is why you need to you guys need to understand it we didn't talk chonan asking a great question I can tell that
[00:26:15] he understands throttle Expo in that video we did not talk about setting the midpoint to zero and we haven't really talked too much about it so is actually a really good question
[00:26:30] so I wouldn't suggest it again unless you've got a rig where the hover point is like so unbelievably low that it's hard to fly so filter settings again very very
[00:26:47] specific unless you have the absolute identical build with the exact same gyro this looks it's an ICM gyro by the filtering that I have set up don't just copy and
[00:27:01] paste receiver tab isn't really going to do much of anything for you but there it is modes again they're pretty individualized I mean I guess you can copy my modes it's
[00:27:16] whatever there you go adjustments I have this setup where I I have this OSD that I can like turn off and that's what I have set up here in the adjust ments Motors
[00:27:30] tab there's not a whole lot you're going to get from there here's my OSD and then since it's a WalkSnail build it's not going to use the VTX table just a double check on the gyro
[00:27:50] if you ever want to look at what your dryo is just type status into the CLI and then in the middle here it's going tell you what your gyro is and just as I suspected it's the ICM 42
[00:28:03] 688 so there you go there's the full setup brother I also have crash recovery turned on here's the here's the crash recovery setup you might need to shift these things around a little bit but
[00:28:24] this works pretty good on most rigs I use Scrat recovery on everything now even outdoor rigs I haven't I haven't put it on any any big stuff but like as I get stuff
[00:28:36] into into BetaFlight I if I if I can remember I add it's just it works really really well good question Mario beans King dingling says I ordered some 1102 three hole Staters tonight in 177,000 KV from
[00:28:58] aax and noticed they had some 20,000 KV Stater bases if I wasn't balls deep into 2S i' have gotten some nice 177,000 KV for an 1102 that you're going to run on 2S is Kind of Perfect you might be able to
[00:29:15] run that at 100% throttle I I would still limit's to like 90 first but 177,000 KV is arguably perfect which is pretty cool Mario says what do you think of the Super X HD elrs for 2S builds Timmons
[00:29:34] who created the the Batwing camera mount for us he sent me a Super X to try on to us and I and I just I haven't I haven't had a chance yet it's actually sitting right over here
[00:29:52] it's like on Deck it's going to get used and we will absolutely try it out I'm actually putting it right over here so we'll see we'll see I'm
[00:30:06] going to put that onto a onto an analog build that I'm going to use this canopy from from thingiverse that holds the insta 360 goto and we'll see we'll see what that's like what's cool about this
[00:30:22] is the runcam nano3 slots in here and I'll be able to fly it around as a 2S rig just analog for fun yes this is a little bit of a heavier canopy but it'll be a 2S analog rig so it'll absolutely
[00:30:36] Hammer and weirdly this whole thing will kind of protect it so I'm this will be neat I I've had this for a while and I just haven't known where to put it but now I
[00:30:51] do let me get this guy unplugged it's just sitting here banging away on the battery or on the whatever words are hard that doesn't power the WalkSnail does it no it doesn't all right good
[00:31:12] um CH choni also chonan also says thanks makes sense it came from a Rosser video I think it's his default setup really that's weird that might be why he bounces so
[00:31:39] much when you watch him fly he bounces around a lot and that's making it a lot that is absolutely going to make that a lot worse I just assumed it's because in in the
[00:31:54] list of things in FPV that you can choose to put your time into he obviously puts his time into the engineering side product development and doesn't go out and fly
[00:32:07] hundreds thousands of batteries so I I I just assume that was that was the main thing but if if he's using throttle Expo with a zero midpoint that's going to make his
[00:32:20] throttle resolution significantly worse and that's going to make that elevation control much more challenging and I I I I watched his video on the new AOS C rigs the other day
[00:32:35] I I I and he was at when he was flying him at the end of the video he was he was bouncing around quite a bit Curtis Hayes says I just built a 3s tp3 with t-motor 1303 5000s will it fly
[00:32:55] on 2S as well I mean it'll fly but it's on 2S you would want to be up at like I think like 8,000 KV it kind of depends on what propellers you run on it how big they are how pitchy they are
[00:33:14] but that'll be gnarly on 3s that'll be great on 3s on 2S it'll be like just float around and fio says I'm looking for my Fusion container that has the chip in it the
[00:33:30] cats have knocked it somewhere no worries thank you dude don't go crazy looking for it but I appreciate it Islander FPV says have you seen the new G RC tcube 18 I think we were looking at
[00:33:50] that Jesus [@$#%] Christ why is the application wow this is this is insane Canon I hope Canon Burns in hell for this that's a bit much but hang on let me see if I can get
[00:34:22] this pitiful excuse for a piece of software that runs Canon cameras working oh all I had to do was read the rest of your M message Islander Motors look interesting 102 25,000
[00:34:48] don't see them listed individually yet but keeping an eye on them we were looking at that on a previous stream I don't remember where super exciting I will sley CBR thank you for the
[00:35:00] Super Chat my friend says treats for Teddy much appreciated man look we'll get another 15 minutes out of this dog [@$#%] softare before it dies again thank you dude and welcome back
[00:35:20] to the to the gangly gang much appreciated there it is Teddy's eating like a Teddy's eating better than his mom and dad tonight I will say this
[00:35:40] Islander I talked to gross FPV Tyler from rotor riot at Rampage earlier this year he's been on a similar quest to try to figure out 1S WalkSnail 75mm rigs how to get decent
[00:35:58] runtime decent power no Jello we talked quite a bit about it he had t-motor make him a bunch of prototype 102s in higher KVs 25,000 27,000 29,000 I believe are the three sizes
[00:36:19] that that he' mentioned and basically he had the exact same experience as me trying other Motors that are higher KV which is that by the time you get a motor that
[00:36:36] has enough power the runtime Goes to Hell and so that was for me kind of the nail in the coffin of 1S WalkSnail 75 the beginning of the live stream I I I completely forgot to mention this
[00:36:57] but the beginning of the live stream was that build this is my 1S WalkSnail build it is a ve you have to fly it in a very specific way you don't have to but it works really well if you fly it the
[00:37:14] way that you saw me flying it at the intro of the live stream which is basically that you fly it like an RC car forward backward left and right if you go to change altitude you do it slowly
[00:37:26] when you go full throttle on this thing to try to throw it up over something it's dog [@$#%] and then when you chop the throttle it falls out of the air like a sack of hammers and then
[00:37:36] trying to catch it before it hits the ground you got to hammer the throttle really early and just let it sit's just doesn't have great power to weight ratio Motors that allow this to have a good
[00:37:50] power to weight ratio eat the 450mah 1S batteries in less than 2 minutes which is really hard on the batteries and just kind of sucks and so at that point it's like well why not
[00:38:03] go up to a 550mah battery well then the power to weight ratio goes back to hell because the 550mah battery is way heavier than the 450s
[00:38:16] so it's there is there's a limit to each amount of voltage right there's a limit to how much performance you can get out of one s before it's the wrong battery there's a limit to 2S there's a
[00:38:31] limit to 3s right a bunch of years ago with 4S on 5 in rigs we got to see that when we wanted more performance 4S was done we went up to 1500mah batteries 1700 18800mah batteries and
[00:38:49] it just wasn't there 4S that amount of voltage was the limiting factor and then as soon as we went up to sus we were good to go like those problems sort of went away that's the exact same thing
[00:39:06] that we've run into with 1S which is kind of cool because like it means that we are we're finding the limits right and that that's like a really good thing there's a lot to be learned from
[00:39:22] that and so in my opinion for the flight performance that I'm looking for 1S is not it for these WalkSnail rigs 65 75 doesn't matter I have one of each and I've pushed both of them to the
[00:39:43] absolute bitter limit I've spent hundreds of hours I'm not exaggerating that hundreds of hours trying to get the perfect 1S WalkSnail 65 and 75mm setups and it's just not there I've
[00:39:59] gotten them as good as I possibly can the 655mm rig is on 0702 40,000 KV Motors that rig has the power to weight ratio that that I want it actually flies really decent but the battery life sucks
[00:40:20] and so when I fly it I have to back off and just fly it more gentle and then a couple times per battery I can Hammer Full Throttle when I absolutely need it but if I fly that thing
[00:40:35] hard it just annihilates the batteries in like a minute and a half and the batteries come off of there so hot that they're being damaged on the 75mm rig I went the other direction where it
[00:40:49] does not have a power Trin that makes me happy that that gives me enough power to weight ratio gives me enough flight performance mainly because the only Motors that
[00:41:01] will do that are 1 mm motor shaft and the motors just the motor shafts just bend all over the place so this setup is handcuffed by the motor selection from a durability standpoint and the best
[00:41:17] that I've found are these BetaFPV 1102 22,000 KV Motors and for what you saw me doing in the intro of this live stream this is actually very fun just like the 65mm rig
[00:41:33] is is very fun as long as you fly it in the very specific way that it needs to be flown which is kind of annoying right like we are admittedly very spoiled we have a lot of builds in
[00:41:50] FPV that we can have it all we can fly them gentle and get four five six minutes of run time or we can fly them hard and get fantastic flight performance we just in order to have that
[00:42:11] scenario the you you have to be the voltage has to be right the the the parts that are available have to be smartly chosen and with with 1S dragging around all the extra weight of walks
[00:42:30] snail it's just not it's just not possible but on 2S it absolutely is and this thing is unbelievable it doesn't weigh much more than the 1S rig which is insane it only weighs like
[00:42:46] three grams extra so in terms of like flying it in really small tight spaces it's completely fine what's interesting is from a throttle resolution standpoint because this has
[00:43:03] so much power so much extra power it is actually a little bit harder to fly in those small spaces in the same way that like all other rigs that that we fly that have good power to weight
[00:43:17] ratios that fly good are a little bit more challenging to fly in super tight spaces the 1S rig here it has crazy throttle resolution because at Full Throttle it doesn't make a lot of power
[00:43:35] and that inherently makes it easier to fly in really small spaces but it doesn't fly good anywhere else it's flies really good in small spaces if you put the nose down and just Cruise
[00:43:48] it around it's kind of fun but this thing flies good all the time and if if you're going to fly it exclusively in small spaces all you have to do is nail the throttle Expo down and add a whole
[00:44:01] bunch of it so if I was going to like spend a couple of batteries flying this just in the front garden through those tiny little spots I would just crank the throttle Expo to the [@$#%] Moon make
[00:44:12] sure it's set absolutely perfect and then I'd be able to get the same amount of throttle resolution from this as I have from this but at Full Throttle this would have a massive explosion of power
[00:44:24] that this does not so th this is better in every way see what I'm saying so I actually do not recommend that that you do this build I do not recommend that you build a 1S walks
[00:44:42] snail anything really the the 65 okay maybe because there is no other option we can't go up to 2S on a 65mm rig so if you're desperate for a WalkSnail rig that you can fly
[00:44:59] inside the house the 65mm build sure I get it but this though I I don't recommend you do this at all do this this is better in every way than this I'm leaving this basically
[00:45:17] represents this is just my extra WalkSnail VTX and my extra beta cross style AO if I pull this thing apart they're just going to those two things are just going to sit in a box as
[00:45:32] as my backups so I might as well have them together and if somebody asks me about it I can fly it live on stream or every once in a while I fly it and I can show you guys the flight footage and
[00:45:45] have this conversation but I don't really recommend that anybody do this 1S WalkSnail 75mm build because the 2S build is just so much better in every way and it's not going to cost you
[00:45:56] any extra money H it'll cost you a little bit of extra money because the 2S batteries are a couple bucks more but it's well worth it's well worth the the the Improvement in efficiency
[00:46:08] flight time well the same thing performance thrust all that stuff cool but I'm not going to take this apart because it's I have the motors I have this stuff it kind of is what it
[00:46:21] is make sense if you want any of the stuff that I was talking about that's first sale that I haven't put on the Etsy store just message me raise FPV no no no hold on sleepy
[00:46:37] CBR thank you again for the for the treats for Teddy thrash FPV says just got the new tiny whoop prop popper it's so amazing it really is I unfortunately broke my clone popper
[00:46:53] and they are out of stock you can kind of see the little broken foot Here In fairness I was I was really cranking on this this was as much my fault as anything else the the Clone popper and
[00:47:09] the new prop popper that's all metal they have this really thin part that slides in between the Bell and the prop which I really like this is a lot easier to get in there I was using
[00:47:25] this on the 2S toothpick which has newbie drone 1102s with 1 and 1 12 mil motor shafts and I had really pushed the propellers onto it way too hard I had not drilled the props out they were 2
[00:47:42] and A2 inch by blades and I it is my fault for not having drilled them out and then it was doubly my fault for taking this prop popper that obviously has a really thin piece of metal here
[00:47:58] and really just CR I it was it was in between the motor and the bell and I was just cranking on it and it let go so my recommendation is going to be when the Clone popper comes back in stock get
[00:48:15] one or get the brand new prop popper you'll see it's got the thin little thing have one of these cuz these These are so good for 1 mm motor shafts and for or if you're not a dummy and you
[00:48:29] actually drill your propellers out also pick up one of the other prop poppers this is the wee bed one get one of the other prop poppers that has the thicker thing here and if you ever are
[00:48:45] pulling a propeller off with the one with the thin foot and you're starting to really crank on it stop and grab this one that's got the thicker foot on it and use this one to really
[00:49:00] crank those hard to get those props that are hard to get off off the Clone popper and the new tiny woop prop popper are the only ones that have the super thin foot on them I've removed
[00:49:14] hundreds of propellers with the Clone PL clone popper with no problem whatsoever it wasn't until this toothpick and me just absolutely laying into it that I broke the damn thing so
[00:49:28] best case scenario have two of them one with the thin one with the thicker and if you have a super stubborn prop use the thicker one I now have .99 mm and 1.5 mm drill bits back
[00:49:43] in stock I will get them back up on the Etsy store at some point here if you're desperate for them just message me and let me know whatever else you want for Etsy and you can just PayPal me I'll
[00:49:53] tell you the total and I'll send them to you if you don't have drill bits to drill your propellers out you're just you're just going to waste your own money and time because you're every
[00:50:09] single time the only propeller that fits properly is the geman 1210 1 mm version the 1.5 mm version that's brand new on Weeble needs to be drilled out it fits too tight if you are using any propeller
[00:50:25] other than the GemFan 12 12 10 1 mm you are hurting your Motors and you are going to [@$#%] a motor up and that is 10 bucks you've just wasted $10 the the drill bits on my website I think they're
[00:50:40] five bucks each so you can spend 10 bucks on two drill bits and not ruin your Motors or you can ruin your Motors and if you ruin a motor that you can't buy individually you just cost yourself $40
[00:50:56] there's just no reason if you're going to fly tiny whoops if you're going to fly rigs with 1 mimer and 1 and a half millimeter motor shafts where you're not using t-mount
[00:51:08] screws it's an absolute no-brainer you are just you were costing yourself money if you're not drilling the the propellers out basically if you are ever pushing a propeller on and you
[00:51:20] can't do it like easily like this and you're starting to use your thumb you're starting to lift your elbow you're starting to make faces you're starting to use your like arm and chest muscles
[00:51:31] you're about to ruin that motor I guarantee you you're not going to ruin it right now you are going to get that propeller on but in the process of getting that propeller on you are going
[00:51:40] to significantly weaken the laser weld between the motor shaft and the bell I don't care if the motor is splined knurled it doesn't matter you will 100% ruin that motor and when you go
[00:51:55] to pull the off or when you put the next prop on that motor shaft will slip on the bell and that motor is done you can get the you can get the Loctite 638 retaining
[00:52:10] compound and you can bring that Bell back to life very temporarily but it will not last you'll get another like one or two propeller removals from it and then it'll slip
[00:52:24] again and the cycle will will begin it's not the retaining compound does not work good enough as a permanent fix the permanent fix is like many things to preemptively be
[00:52:38] intelligent something that I don't understand why it is so hard to understand here and so 10 bucks two drill bits before you put a propeller on or when you're putting a propeller on and you
[00:53:06] start to push really hard stop take it off drill it out stop wasting money end time Mario Bean says is a 7 minute flight time pretty standard for 2S WalkSnail build I'm running 14,500 KV on mind
[00:53:26] flies great 7 minutes is is extremely long for a flight time most people are happy with a three minute run time three minutes is kind of The Sweet Spot in in in my opinion
[00:53:43] it's just long enough where you can really get into it and it's not so long that the that you're dragging around extra weight to each his or her own like if if 7 minutes is the
[00:54:00] sweet spot for you that's totally fine but I think what I can say is those of us that fly really hard are happy are totally happy with 3 minutes and when you start flying really
[00:54:18] hard it's difficult to get more than 3 minutes if you want the rig to be as light as it possibly can which is where it kind of performs the best and so anything north of 3 minutes
[00:54:32] is great 7 minutes is a bit much for me I would try to go to a smaller but if I had a rig that was running for 7 minutes I would be exhausted by the end of that seven
[00:54:44] minutes that's kind of the other thing like when when you're flying really hard freestyle it is mentally taxing as hell and so at the end of 3 minutes I want a break like want to be able to take a
[00:54:57] breather and just chill for a second because like hard free style is just go go go go go go go go go go right you're you're you're in proximity to stuff that can destroy the build for the
[00:55:13] entire time you're going Full Throttle you're shooting tiny little gaps you're going fast you're going slow like it is a it is not nut so and so 7 Minute runtime you're
[00:55:29] probably carrying around a battery that's a little bit too heavy it could also be though that you've got 14,500 KV Motors that's going to be a really efficient motor for me my 2s
[00:55:44] walks snail build I have it set to like the equivalent of 16 or 17,000 KV Motors because I want that extra power and that extra power is going to use extra juice so your your Motors might be
[00:55:59] super efficient but I I have a feeling you're running a 2S 450mah battery rather than the the 2S 300mah batteries so if it were me I would drop down to the 300 MH batteries bring that flight
[00:56:17] time down to like 3 or 4 minutes the rig's going to fly better it's going to crash better but again that's just me some you're you're allowed to want a rig that flies s minutes and
[00:56:30] you're allowed to sacrifice flight performance and power to rate ratio for flight time if that's what you want right I try really hard not to talk about like best right I I just talk
[00:56:45] about different I just talk about the specific attributes of stuff so that you guys can make up your own minds and build the rig that's perfect for you I'm very wary of anybody that talks
[00:56:56] that talks about this is the best BNF ever this is the best motor ever this is the best battery ever usually those are people that just don't get it
[00:57:05] so as soon as you see somebody talking about best be very wary raay FPV says you mentioned in another video that there was a ratio to keep in mind for motor numbering if I'm not mistaken
[00:57:17] it's better to have a wider stator than taller in certain instances so baby so 3: one you basically don't typically want to go any taller than 3 to one 5 in
[00:57:42] rigs have had the deepest R&D cycle out of anything in FPV so they are a perfect spot to take a look at for stuff like this and so when you look at the motor sizing that like every body runs that is
[00:57:57] obviously the best motor sizing that we've found in millions of batteries being flown on 5-in rigs from people around the globe right it's 2306 and 2207 2207 7 for so seven I'm sorry seven
[00:58:14] tall so 7 14 21 almost a perfect 3:1 sorry 3:1 ratio 2306 6 12 18 24 23 24 4: one ratio 2306 Motors make a little bit less power but they run a little bit cooler A Wider motor
[00:58:44] has more motor width and that's going to be more of the Bell that's in the airf flow coming down off the propeller also it just makes less power and when you make less power you have
[00:58:56] less heat 2207 that extra millimeter of height makes a bunch more power the height of the stator makes way more power than the width of the stator so if you add a
[00:59:11] millimeter of height to one motor and you add a millimeter of width to another motor the motor that you added the extra height to is going to make way more power for two reasons the the the one
[00:59:25] reason is that if you're going from six to seven the the percentage change is massive that's like a 12 or 13 or 14% change in the height of the stator if you take a 22 mm wide motor and you go
[00:59:40] to 23 mm that's like a 6% or 4% change so just the percentage of change has a tremendous amount to do with that but if you were to go if you were to add that extra millimeter six to
[00:59:56] seven and then you were to take that percentage and use that same percentage I think basically what you would do is you would take a 22 mm wide Stater and you'd go to like 24 or even 25 but leave
[01:00:09] it 6 mm tall it still would not make as much power as that 2207 because of the second factor which is that the height is where the Stater windings make their most power the vertical part
[01:00:26] of the Stater winding is what pulls that magnet in when you go wider on the motor you don't add any extra height you just space it out farther which is a longer lever right it's like putting a a
[01:00:42] breaker bar on the on the lug nut wrench right longer lever yes it's going to impart more mechanical torque but it's not nearly as effective as the taller stator that's physically pulling
[01:00:58] it's adding more of that vertical part that's pulling the magnet across the other thing that happens is when you if you were to add like 3 millim of width to a motor that motor would get way
[01:01:09] heavier versus adding 1 millimeter of height to a motor it doesn't get nearly as heavy so I guess that's also the third thing that that's sort of going on there but the long and short of it is
[01:01:21] for hardcore freestyle where you're trying to squeeze every bit of performance Out 3 to one is the way to go that's going to give you the lightest possible motor that has just enough
[01:01:36] cooling but if you push it really really really hard you can start to overheat it if you want a more what's the word if you want a more
[01:01:58] reliable is not the word not reliable oh God damn if you want a motor that every single time you Hammer the throttle it gives you the exact same amount of power
[01:02:16] because it's always cool right a 3:1 motor if you hammer it hard enough that motor will get hot and when the magnets get hot they make less power and they are less efficient and so with a 3 to1
[01:02:33] motor if you push it hard enough there could be a situation where you were hard on the throttle you overheated the motor you came off the throttle something happens you go back to full throttle
[01:02:46] expecting to get the same amount of power but you won't I can't think of the word for this but somebody's probably already typing in the chat that happens way more with two: one
[01:03:01] ratio Motors 3 to one is pretty safe but technically speaking four to one is where you want to be for total every single time you Hammer the throttle it gives you the same amount of
[01:03:19] power I keep thinking of reliab it's not reliability it's predictability thank you CBR predictability for absolute infinite predictability 4 to one seems to be the best mix where
[01:03:39] the motor is not getting super heavy because it's too wide but the and then so now we throw cops into the mix all right so a cow whoop is carrying actually up there now cine
[01:04:01] whoops are carrying a big ass payload right 120 130 gram GoPro on a 3-in rig so what you want to think about with cine whoops is like they're kind of off on their own they're a weird Fringe case
[01:04:21] but we can take these lessons that we've learned and adapt them so with cow whoop Motors you'll see five to one you'll even see six to one this is because we want we're willing to
[01:04:35] sacrifice a little bit of a heavier motor for a rig that is again totally predictable every single time you Hammer the throttle you get the exact same amount of power because the motor is
[01:04:48] extra wide to stay nice and cool so 204s 2104s 2304s that's why you're seeing those really wide really flat Motors on C whoops what super interesting
[01:05:06] is the Avada and the Avada 2 they use a 1507 is motor the reason is that they're prioritizing they don't seem to really give a rat's ass about flight performance they do but not as much as
[01:05:24] us they have prioritized lightweight and runtime and a 2:1 motor is significantly lighter than a 4:1 or a 5:1 motor this is why the avadas fall out of the sky when you try to push them hard
[01:05:46] the motors the motors overheat but most people that are going to buy a Nevada are not going to fly them hard and so they get away with it and the benefit
[01:06:01] is absurd amounts of runtime so it's a it's tough with with the DJI rigs they can do things like digitally limiting the amount of power that the the thing asks from the motors right so
[01:06:18] they can do all kinds of fancy [@$#%] cuz they have an R&D team working on it top to bottom we can't do that so if we build a cine whoop with 1507 and we push too hard on the throttle and let it sit
[01:06:30] and and let the motor saturate you can potentially blow any SC fat have it fall out of the air in the same way all kinds of weird [@$#%] happens DJI can kind of cover that up a little bit with with
[01:06:41] the flight software that they design in house right so if you wanted to build something as close as possible to Nevada you'd probably want to go like a 3: one ratio because you don't get that
[01:06:55] technical Wizardry that they give you makes sense good question I love talking about that [@$#%] as if you couldn't guess Northern Tier says what 2S 75mm frame did you end up liking the best for
[01:07:08] walk snail both of the mobula frames the Mobula 7 V3 is my favorite but the V4 is also good the my main gripe what's nice about the V4 frame is it's lighter but the mega pain in the ass about it is
[01:07:31] that you have to notch out the duct here in order to get access to the jst port that you use instead of USB there is no USB port on the bottom of this BetaFPV AIO which I like and unbelievably the
[01:07:50] mobula 7 V3 frame comes with the duct not out on the inside here and so you have perfect access the problem the only problem with the Mobula 7 V3 frame is that it's designed for 3mm tall Motors
[01:08:07] not 2mm tall Motors so when you run a 2mm tall motor you have to use risers see that little clear piece between the the frame and the no you don't because Logitech can't make a
[01:08:23] [@$#%] autofocus algorithm that works this [@$#%] well it's in there a 2mm tall motor will sit too low in the duct and so but what's nice is the air 65 and air 75 frames come with these
[01:08:54] little motorizer the problem is trying to find a set of motor screws that are long enough to use with these risers BetaFPV does not give you those and I don't know where you would get those I
[01:09:09] just happen to have a bunch of them because I've been hoarding screws FPV screws for the last eight plus years so I've got a set somewhere in here but I don't like I I don't have
[01:09:29] enough to sell them to you guys so whoever figures that out let me know and I'll I'll put a link up so that other people can find them speaking of I I actually need to
[01:09:44] I actually need to grab a set of those motor screws because I'm going to be screwing these RC and power 102s down to a V3 frame so let me
[01:09:58] let me just do that real quick like while I answer the next question Eric hman says did you ever try a 1S WalkSnail on a 75 Pro I did the extra weight of the 75 Pro
[01:10:19] frame and the bigger propellers basically push it over the edge to where you end up draining the batteries even quicker and it's just it's just no good it's adds too much weight the
[01:10:37] it's much better on the 75 setup also it's starts really hitting the batteries hard so you're you're going to go from like you do gain a little bit of power to weight ratio
[01:10:57] don't get me wrong but the you start killing the batteries in like a minute and 15 seconds if you fly hard and that's just I mean that's a great way to get rid of a bunch of batteries because
[01:11:09] they're they're just going to get so hot doing that that they absolutely melt so it's just not it's not a great combo unfortunately also the rig starts to get so heavy that it's feels like
[01:11:25] you're flying a brick around so I was Ultra excited about that but it didn't end up working there we go all right so those are the screws does anybody happen to know
[01:11:45] we can actually I can tell you what these screws are that you need to get but who in chat knows what these motor screws are are these M1 1.2 or they m1.4 does anybody
[01:11:59] know does anybody know what the the motor the tiny whoop motor screws are I can tell you for a fact that the length you're going to need is 4 mm long this is an M1 something by 4 and this is the
[01:12:16] right length for a Mobula 7 V3 frame with the motorizer well any any frame any normal frame other than the Cockroach V3 and light AF because all the other frames have the same thickness
[01:12:35] motor base and then these these motorizer so hopefully in chat someone has already typed yes I know for a fact that the motor screws are my guess is m1.4 don't quote me on that but that's a
[01:12:53] that is my guess so I think what you need is m1.4 by4 and you can probably just jump on the eBay and grab a bag of a 100 of those for like 10 bucks so good question Eric Holman
[01:13:12] thrash FPV says how would you program LEDs on a switch oh man I don't know I've tried for like two hours and just can't figure it out that my only guess would be that I would maybe hook him up
[01:13:22] to the Beeper switch and treat him like a beeper but but I just don't know who in chat knows how to hook LEDs up on a switch somebody probably does thash FP says if an LED light is rated for 1S but
[01:13:34] I wire two in parallel would this cut the voltage in half or I could run it on 2S man I am not a great I am not a great resource for info on electricity I have zero
[01:13:49] background in anything electrical everything that I've learned has been from FP I I always get confused with series versus parallel to give you an idea of how dumb I am when it comes to
[01:14:04] electricity electricity so I am not the guy but I bet you somebody in chat has either already answered that question or is typing their answer now because we got some smartass [@$#%] in this
[01:14:17] place so tonian says why does nobody make 9mm Motors is there some sort of negative Voodoo or something lack of Market if if enough of us said we need 9mm Motors somebody would make
[01:14:36] them but Offa says with great force comes great responsibility indeed changing to CH making a 9mm motor means that a company needs to get like all all new molds or whatever the
[01:14:56] hell they use to make the bells and the Staters and [@$#%] and that's expensive right so it's much cheaper for them to stick with 7 mm 8 mm 10 millim 11 mm going to 9 mm is a lot
[01:15:15] more expensive than just making a bigger 8 mm wide motor or a smaller 10 m 10 mil wide motor if what I mean chonan says I need a break to wipe my sweaty Palms after no more than three
[01:15:33] minutes exactly Earth Walker says I think 450 is a sweet spot for cruising around the yard 300 if you're good at acrobatics like seatt FPV Ray says thank you for the
[01:15:46] explanation makes sense awesome oh man the chat I was going to start doing stuff over here but the chat is just like filled up with good [@$#%] hold
[01:15:58] on 1B 674 says with the new 04 light coming out supposedly 1S to 3s 10ish GS what build pops into your head all of these WalkSnail builds we are perfectly placed to make amazing 04
[01:16:17] light builds so for once we'll be ahead of the curve my friends it's easy to start thinking oh we should go up to 2 mm props in doing so the the the frame is
[01:16:35] going to get so much bigger the prop guards are going to stick out farther and you're going to and that's going to become the problem so 75 is the way this 75 MIM rigs are the perfect spot for
[01:16:50] the biggest propellers that we can possibly run without having the ducts stick so far out that half of your view on the bottom of the screen is ducked but they're also big enough where you
[01:17:04] can carry a 2S 300 2S 450 so it's 75 mil you're going to see most people doing 2in builds guaranteed because they haven't put the time in that we have but 75 absolutely
[01:17:24] will be the way the that 04 light setup is supposedly going to be 10 gram the WalkSnail setup is 6 gram this 2S rig will absolutely handle four extra grams of weight all day long so we'll still be
[01:17:41] able to do a similar build to this where the camera is nice and centered you're not having to hang the camera all the way over the front ducts which overloads the front Motors and then you got to go
[01:17:50] to front bigger Motors more weight bigger battery more weight bigger frame more weight like 2 in not the way for that setup for freestyle for a cin whoop I don't
[01:18:04] know maybe I would actually rather stick with 75 though but with a c whoop you have to get the ducts out of view and you have to be able to run really low to no up tilt so they'll probably have to
[01:18:17] go to a 2in setup but for freestyle it's going to be this it's going to be this build that we've been working on for many months so that's going to be amazing unfortunately it looks like
[01:18:31] that 04 light VTX is not going to be don't quote me on this but it looks it's not going to be drilled for 25 by 25 it's going to be 30 by3 so we're probably not going to be able to do a
[01:18:46] build like this unless somebody comes out with a 75 mil frame that's set up for 30x30 and then we got to try to find an AIO that's got elrs built in right that's
[01:19:01] 30x30 so it's might be a bit of a nightmare in that respect if that's the case it'll probably be all 2in stuff because that's just what's going to happen the the 2-in frames that come out
[01:19:17] that are 30 by3 the frames that come out that are going to be 30x30 are going to be 2inch frames I don't even know if you could I don't even know how that would work I don't even know how you would do
[01:19:27] a 30x30 AIO in a 75 mil frame it's might start to look really dumb where there's a ton of space in between the props but hopefully that VTX is 25 by 25 and fits in the Mobula 7 V3
[01:19:48] frame but I doubt it because the 03 system is way more sophisticated than the WalkSnail setup and that [@$#%] takes space so I I think it'll be my guess is that it's going to be a whole separate thing
[01:20:06] it's but I mean welcome to FPV tiny shark says you don't use Dynamic Idol vbat compensation and thrust erization on your 2S WalkSnail build do I not have those turned on that is
[01:20:25] 100% an oversight that is me just being used to the 1S builds thank you for calling that out because digital idle is awesome and it pains me to not use it on the on the 1s
[01:20:52] builds the other ones thrust linearization H vbat compensation and thrust linearization 2S doesn't necessarily need those I don't really think although vbat compensation I am
[01:21:11] probably going to turn on because that helps with throttle Expo and I have a lot of throttle Expo dialed into this thing so I am actually probably going to turn that one on but Dynamic idle
[01:21:22] not digital Idol Dynamic idle is awesome oh that's what okay so for whatever reason BetaFPV the BetaFPV cross AIO and this 12 amp AO they don't work with Dynamic idle I don't
[01:21:38] know what it is but Dynamic idle just does not work on those two aios so that's why this is turned off vbat sag compensation though I am absolutely going to turn on thrust linear
[01:21:53] what the hell I'm going to turn it down to 10% though thank you dude good call on that but the dynamic idle it's makes me sad that I can't use it but it just don't work I
[01:22:10] tried on every other 1S aiio you can use that Dynamic idle the devs say not to which is why I don't but on both beta fpvs for whatever reason it's doesn't work
[01:22:25] they're doing something funky that doesn't jive with with that turkey Ray says also meant that explains a ton CMYK is in the house thank you for dropping the cv.com link that's where
[01:22:42] you can go to support me this is a completely crowdfunded thing join the patreon that's the best thing you can do and you get tons of benefits you're going to love it LOL the Ken says what
[01:22:51] do you think of Zoe fpvs upcoming 2010 Motors so they are 2010s I I thought that was a typo 2010 as we were talking about a little bit ago that's a motor that's going to make a hideous
[01:23:04] amount of power but it's probably going to overheat that is a two for [@$#%] sake God damn it Canon fix your [@$#%] software Jesus Christ so that in in my opinion
[01:23:44] that motor is going to overheat if you run it hard but it will be super efficient if you don't run it very hard so there's a there's a use for everything Brandon B beans thinks
[01:24:00] that the the motor screws are m1.2 I don't think they are he says I don't know maybe it's 1.3 LOL the ktis says I thought 1.4 off axis says m1.4 I think ketonian just says m1.4 he
[01:24:16] didn't put an I think in there so that sounds pretty pretty dead set I'm pretty Earth Walker says 1.4 okay it's 1.4 a whole bunch of you guys are saying fre lojo thinks it's
[01:24:28] m1.2 I have m1.2 that I use for the canopy actually I have them right here I can look and tell you for certain that they're not oh well here this is one this this is so this is the the
[01:24:48] screw that comes with no it's definitely not 1.2 this is the screw that comes with here even show you guys that comes with the Mobula 6 canopy and so here's the comparison right
[01:25:04] this is m1.2 and then this is what the the tiny whoop motor screws are and so ignore oh there's totally a difference there right so ignore the fact that this one is
[01:25:21] sharp on the tip just look at the main Shank and this is 1.2 mm wide this is obviously 1.4 technically this could be m1.6 oh I have a [@$#%] I have a caler what am I
[01:25:41] doing I've actually never done this I I'm assuming that that is the width of these I will tell you in a second hold on so caliper life let's let's solve this once and
[01:26:02] for all all right caliper screw I'm going to clamp down on the main part and that says 1.18 that is a that is a 1.2 so there's that and then you go up there and then we've got
[01:26:34] a motor screw and if we squeeze this [@$#%] huz a 1.34 call that 1.4 I don't think there is such a thing as M 1.3 I'm pretty sure it's m1.4 so m1.4 by4 is what these
[01:27:00] screws are that you're going to see me using in a little bit on this Frame I'm actually going to start doing that now even though I'm backed up on chat I'm G to I'm going to start doing it
[01:27:10] I'll start juggling chat and working on this thing m1.4 by4 that's what I got right here so I need to take these are these are regular m1.4 by two I guess I guess the
[01:27:31] regular motor screws are either m1.4 by 2 or they could also be m1.4 by three doesn't really matter you guys all have extra tiny whoop motor screws coming out of your ears I'm sure you
[01:27:50] know you get them with every single set of Motors you buy they're just all over the place so it doesn't really you're you're not going to need to buy more of those God forbid you do need to buy more
[01:28:01] regular tiny whoop motor screws I have thousands of them I probably actually do have thousands of them they're up on the Etsy store in I think silver don't don't
[01:28:18] buy them from eBay or Amazon or something buy them from me or else will be very upset with you do whatever you want okay oh look YouTube just [@$#%] the bed man all the problems are coming back
[01:28:43] I had like two or three live streams where everything worked totally fine and now everything is a big fat douchebag again tonian says what would your Dynamic idle setting be for 2S 30 is the best
[01:29:10] starting point and then if the motors are stalling out go up to like 40 but I like it at 30 and 30 usually works fre lojo says lead on LED on More Voltage needs as
[01:29:28] resistor no matter the number of LEDs there you go whoever was asking about LEDs looks like Mario beans is also given some good info look on the Pavo 35 CLI and webpage instructions
[01:29:42] shows you how to do it tiny shark FPV says do you think the 2S HD setup would handle a naked 03 no no no no no naked 03 is 18 grams or would that be a limit for two I mean it
[01:29:59] depends on what you mean by handle like will it pick it up and move it around but you're basically going to have like a tiny lifter there so it's going to fly like ass if you're okay with
[01:30:12] that then you're just going to have to figure out how the hell to package it right because it's a big tall bastard but it's not going to be for freestyle it's going to be a 100%
[01:30:25] like little tiny cop/ tiny lifter it'll it'll I'll say this it'll fly closer to a cow whoop than a lifter my tiny lifters fly like lifters and that they fly like ass cuz it's a 26 gram camera an
[01:30:42] 18 G camera that is fat but it's not like outrageous fat so so the way that c whoops fly where like they're they they fly a lot better than lifters but nowhere near as good as freestyle
[01:30:56] rigs that's basically what you would have Justin Müller says where's Teddy I think he's upstairs tonian says I bought a set of all length m1.2 1.4 1.6 Amazon I'm sure there we go so it is confirmed
[01:31:10] from multiple places m1.4 is what motor screws are tiny whoop motor screws are Kevin Smith measured as well 1.38 yep we're good thank you guys nuron FPV says with the less than 10 gram 04 light 1S do
[01:31:27] you think it will be a big Revival for 2S 75mm thanks for all the work so if you missed it nuron I I dove into that about 10 minutes ago I I think you probably asked that question right on
[01:31:41] top of me talking about it I I from the specs that I saw it's going to be 30x30 so it's not going to work on any of these 25 by it's going to be a packaging nightmare
[01:31:57] so we'll see in terms of how much it weighs at like 10ish GS we already know what motors are going to work so we're in good shape but the the packaging of it is is going to be a nightmare chonan
[01:32:11] says cockroach comes with m1.4 by3 awesome most most Motors need m1.4 by4 and 1.4 by5 to use the risers in my opinion I I measured these on the front on the front of the Omni fixo which is not
[01:32:32] perfect but it's pretty close let me let me double check know this is definitely m1.4 by4 I thought the screws that the Cockroach comes with were m1.4 by2 and then the regular tiny whoop
[01:32:54] screws tiny whoop motor screws are m1.4 by3 and then with the risers 1.4 by4 I can totally be wrong though EFI says are the fractual frames better than your normal plastic frames
[01:33:17] nope they are worse in every way worse power to weight ratio worse efficiency worse camera mounting worse durability Earth Walker says have you tried or heard anything about the X12
[01:33:30] elrs Pro I've not I know that it exists but I haven't heard anything about it chonan says you're right I'm off by one across the board all right cool cool cool cool good to
[01:33:40] go all right nuron says thanks for the answer the late guy no worries it's all good rewind back I I dove into it but the long and short of it is it looks and makes sense right they're
[01:33:54] taking two boards and combining them into one how the hell would they would they keep the same sizing but that being said if like having an 04 system on a tiny whoop that is outrageous and I will
[01:34:14] re-engineer everything to be able to have that is worth all new frames that is worth all new everything that's ridiculous to have the video performance that a Nevada 2 has
[01:34:29] which is basically better than GoPro Hero 12 and 13 but on a tiny whoop is outrageous if we have to if if it's if it's new frames if it's new mounting if it's new all that stuff that's totally
[01:34:45] cool that's wild man that is absolutely wild that that might exist hopefully there's not some asinine [@$#%] that pops up at the last second that's like oh by the way nope you can't
[01:35:01] use this with any actual FPV stuff you have to buy only DJI whatever I guess oh what I just I have a feeling I hope this is not true because I've not heard great things about the
[01:35:18] quality but the the Neo uh$ 199 whatever the hell you would want to call that thing I'm going to take a wild guess that the 04 light is what's in that that's based on nothing other
[01:35:40] than that that thing is very lightweight and so I don't know it'll it'll almost certainly be better quality than walks now so it'll still be like awesome but
[01:35:59] because like there there's no way that they made that just for us D DJI has made it pretty evident that they have no interest in the actual FPV community and so I'm not buying that they made that
[01:36:16] just for us it makes way more sense to me that they designed that for the Neo and then just like they always have a while later they're like oh here you guys can have the scraps we
[01:36:31] made this thing for one of our things but we can make some more money off you guys so I guess you can kind of have a version of it we won't update it as frequently and we won't listen to
[01:36:40] a goddamn thing you say about like oh OSD or or having it auto power on or any of the other things that really matter to you but we'll we'll give you this thing and then you guys can kind of
[01:36:51] figure it out on your own and spend thousands of hours hacking it and figure what I mean so that's my guess that's my guess what does anybody know what the
[01:37:05] Neo specs are is it 4K I'm pretty sure I read in the specs of the 0304 light that it is going to be 4K my assumption is going to be though that the bit rate is
[01:37:16] significantly lower look taking a big ass 04 air unit and squashing it in into one single board we're going to lose something and that's okay because it's still going to
[01:37:32] be almost certainly like amazing but we're going to have to lose something know what I'm saying man these screws are like just long enough I wish I had m1.4 by fivs to try
[01:37:50] on here but these are definitely long enough and if I screw them in a couple times it'll they'll squash through this plastic a little bit but I I always I really try to have a
[01:38:05] little bit of the screw sticking out of the top of the Stater and this is not quite there but the ducts are going to take most of the hit so it's probably completely fine
[01:38:19] and on on the other rig I've crashed it a bunch with this same exact set set up and it's been completely fine so once I get these motors on here we're going to be able to compare the RC
[01:38:32] and Power 102 19,000 to the t-motor 102 either 18 or 19,000 and Rosser has tested a bunch of tiny whoop Motors and he's tested a couple of t- motors and he's tested a couple of RC
[01:38:52] and Power and the RC and power tiny whoop M Motors blow the t- motors out of the water so it's kind of cool because I'm totally happy with the way that the the 2S WalkSnail 75 rig flies with the t-
[01:39:09] motor 102 181 19000s which means that these RC and powers are going to be even better which is amazing so I'll either be able to get a little bit more runtime or a little
[01:39:19] bit more power or whatever so this is this is pretty cool I don't know why that first set of Motors I bought were t-motor it's weird that I didn't get RC and Power
[01:39:37] 102 19000s right off the rip but whatever we like comparisons t-motor makes great Motors it's just that RC and power is like killing it with their smaller Motors and making smaller Motors is
[01:40:00] different oh [@$#%] where did that screw go there it is chonan says please test these against the 1102 BetaFPV as well yep indeed those felt
[01:40:15] great they felt a little heavy though I mean they are they are a little heavy but man they had some [@$#%] grunt as soon as I turned the they're they're the same KV as the t-motor
[01:40:33] 102s and what's interesting is at 75% motor limiting there was a definite difference between the two the 1102s felt better even though they were heavier all I had to do on the
[01:40:48] t-motor 102s though was go from 75% motor limiting to 80% motor limiting and then they felt just as good and they're lighter so hopefully these RC and Powers will have the grunt of the beta
[01:41:01] 1102s but I mean they are lighter so they'll absolutely be lighter but then hopefully they'll have that extra power and or a little bit of extra efficiency they should be more efficient
[01:41:17] because they're lighter right and so we should get better flight performance and better efficiency from these but I will say man the the BetaFPV
[01:41:32] 1102s in 22,000 KV and in 18,000 KV are really impressive they are a hell of a motor and they're not that much heavier than these 102s so you never know we might end up going back to those they it
[01:41:51] this this rig felt incredible with those Motors it just it felt like a Full Tilt freestyle rig it felt like I was just flying a tiny little 5-in rig in the front yard and I know that's a dumb
[01:42:05] thing to say because nothing actually flies like 5 in but like in terms of flight characteristics and basically what I'm saying here is that it felt perfect right like when you fly a
[01:42:20] properly not even properly somewhat dialed in 5 in rig it flies [@$#%] perfect everything that you want it to do it does and it does it in this way that like it seriously seems like it's
[01:42:36] reading your mind the response time is so quick it just does everything right the throttle resolution feels great it's just there it's like the perfect flight experience on the
[01:42:51] 1102s it felt just when I turned the 102s up to 80% it felt super similar maybe it wasn't quite there I have a feeling on these RC and Powers though it will
[01:43:06] be I have a funny feeling that these are the The Missing Link there it is so here it is right now on the t-motor 102 18,000 80% motor limiting I'm going to put a battery through this in the
[01:43:24] basement we're going to take a look at the the RPM the Max RPM and then I'm going to swap this over as quick as I can and we'll see we'll see if we can get some more Max RPM out of the RC and
[01:43:35] power motors even if we don't get extra I'm not sure that I'm not sure that in the basement we're going to have enough time to leave this thing Full Throttle to let
[01:43:53] the motors wind all all the way up but I'm going to fly both of these things in the same environment so if the RC and poers make a higher RPM that's still totally valid as far as
[01:44:07] I'm concerned which is probably what we're going to see here I'm going to bleed over on top of whoever is live streaming at nine o'clock I apologize to whoever that is
[01:44:22] for that I think it's spider sugar because it's not the last Friday of the month when bot streams and then I think it's also going to be Super Deluxe so I apologize to you few to you two fine
[01:44:39] fellows but I want to get this in I want to get this going here tiny shark says is there a big difference between t-motor RC in power and flywoo 102 Motors absolutely the
[01:44:56] flywoo 23,500 perform no better than the RC and Power 102 22000 so you might as well get the RC and power motors the t- motors perform worse so RC and Power 102 22,000 are the best well BetaFPV
[01:45:15] 1102 22,000 are actually the best then the RC and Powers then the flywoo then the t-motor tonian says I'm almost 100% sure BetaFPV is underrating their KV I am 100%
[01:45:28] sure that BetaFPV underrates their KV tonian says do you have the HQ by blades I do but they are too fragile they break all the time all
[01:45:45] right get couple of these for sale things out of the way here and let's get this plugged in let me put a memory card in this it's fine [@$#%] it I'm just going to be blasting Full Throttle a
[01:46:18] bunch Okay so let's get this going this is going to be sketchy as [@$#%] I hate flying this thing in the although it's does staggeringly well inside the house like it this flies way
[01:46:36] better than it should in the house it's because the the response time is just like on it so I can fly it better the 75mm 1S rigs the response time is so delayed that they're really hard to fly
[01:46:51] inside the house did I not turn these goggles on I did not all right don't overheat you little bastard chonan says. n g total difference across four Motors between 102 and BetaFPV 1102 the the beta
[01:47:15] 1102s are really light for what they are it's really really impressive I don't know how they're doing that oh man I got to do that one of these days why is it not
[01:47:41] binding power cycle it real quick come on you bastard don't not bind oh man come on really hold on one two three please be in bind mode please be in bind mode please be in bind
[01:48:20] mode bind please yes thank you come on cable stop doing that thank you all right whoa all right so I'm just going to do a ton it I don't know why this is oh it was in angle mode
[01:48:51] or not angle in Horizon mode ah [@$#%] all right so we're looking at 54387 oh my God something's oh what the battery is the battery is Dingle berrying I can tell it's Dingle burying
[01:49:11] on this Mobula 7 V3 frame the battery fell out you got to do a wrap of cloth tape around your battery or else it just Falls right out of the frame Super E
[01:49:24] easily two of these batteries that I have have the cloth wrap and two of them don't this is the one of the ones that doesn't if you're going to run the V4 frame though you don't want that cloth
[01:49:39] wrap oh my God this thing is sketchy to fly around here that was a pretty big throttle hit let's disarm and check that number 5386 7 so we're looks like we're hitting that 54,000 let me just real
[01:49:54] quick go upstairs and see if I can wind it up a little bit more than that Jesus Christ okay that's bad 54,3 there we go so we're getting to that 54,000 number this is a good
[01:50:09] test I'm happy with that that's about all I can squeeze out of it that's what she said this is sketchy but fun oh my God it just it hang because of the power I can get into
[01:50:51] and out of the throttle very quickly 53,800 yes so we're getting right to 54,000 oh boy I can get into and out of the throttle instantly and even though and it generates enough
[01:51:09] throw that even though this thing is a little bit heavier it's appears to float more which is what which is what like all of the really heavyweight 800 gram 5 in guys say that that's their somebody
[01:51:30] type 54,000 into chat please that's what all the super heavy weight 5in guys say oh it doesn't matter that this is so heavy it's got so much power that it's got plenty of Hang Time and they're
[01:51:46] not wrong but there's a difference between hang time caused by hammering up into the clouds and then having all of this lift and then the crest and then the fall versus lighter weight rigs that
[01:52:04] still have a good amount of throw upwards but then on the way down they fall slower because they're a lot lighter this is not super heavy this is only a little bit heavier than the 1s
[01:52:17] 75 mm rig so this is the right balance that that that's one of the things that makes this such a blast to fly so that is at 80% throttle limiting we got a we got to remember
[01:52:31] that we are going from 18,000 KV Motors up to 19,000 KV Motors so initially I'm going to do can somebody do the math for me what do I need to change the 80% throttle limit to
[01:52:48] to match up the KVs so somebody multip L 18,000 by8 and then figure out what you need to multiply 19,000 by probably like 78 to get that same number
[01:53:07] please because I want to test because I can just turn these t- motors up to 85% what I mean to get more power out of them but that's not the point I would rather run I I would
[01:53:21] rather run them both at the same KV although the problem is that the KV numbers stamped on the motor don't really mean much so it's not this is actually not a great
[01:53:44] test what I really need to do is spin these t- motors up with no propeller on them at to see what they spin up to I'm actually going to do that really quickly I'm just going to plug in one of
[01:54:08] these motors and so it's this motor 3 I'm going to pull the prop off of it and then we're going to spin it up 50% in BetaFlight and we're going to get a proper we're going to do this the
[01:54:25] right way so I need to hook up to BetaFlight with this nope this all right in the motors tab the motor limiting has no effect so we need to remember that as
[01:54:49] well we're going to have to do some math here who who's good at math in the chat help a brother out this battery is dead we're going to take a fresh battery plug it in let me get to the motors Tab
[01:55:07] and we're going to go to 50% and we're going to see what the RPM is that's modes not Motors whoever is good at math hook a brother up there we go ketonian 76 coold power 75.7 eight awesome
[01:55:24] neuron says three things I suck at cooking and math nice motor 3 all right cool so I'm going to plug in run motor 3 up real quick here it is full battery motor 3 we're going to go one two 3 4 five
[01:55:44] 80 82 83,000 83,000 somebody type 83 ,000 into the chat get the battery unplugged right away all right 83,000 at 50% throttle that's important to know now I got to switch this over
[01:56:09] and we will take a look at what the RC and power motors spin up to and then we will do the math to figure out what we need to set the motor limiting to for this to be a fair fight between these
[01:56:25] two Motors because nobody stamps the right KV onto their motor Bells unfortunately as we've found from just running a lot of Motors Andor Chris roster's testing all right so this stack is
[01:56:48] coming on here I should have maybe spun that down to a lower RPM 83,000 is very close to the 85,000 maximum that that 8bit esc's have in terms of how much RPM they can dump into a motor that
[01:57:12] is with no propeller on so that doesn't really matter for us like we when we fly these things we I'm sorry propeller when when we fly these things we fly them with propellers and
[01:57:25] the propellers slow the motors down a lot and so it doesn't matter that 8 bit you'll you'll never turn anywhere near 85,000 RPM with a propeller on your motor that I have a feeling that would
[01:57:44] actually cause the the tip of the propeller to go through the speed of sound and it would start to go a pants when that happens you cannot spin propellers fast
[01:57:58] enough that the the tip speed is any closer than like I think it's like 80% 80 to 85% of the speed of sound the efficiency goes completely out the window the the propeller blade start to
[01:58:15] vibrate and go crazy it's you can't do it all hell breaks loose all right stack and canopy are in the other frame this is good I'm going to have to go back into beta
[01:58:42] flight anyway to get the motor spinning in the right direction so while I'm in there I'll fire it up in the and get an RPM so it's should be higher I have a sneaking suspicion that it's going to
[01:58:57] hit 85,000 and it's going to max out which is why I I I kind of [@$#%] up here and I and I should have done it at a lower at a lower throttle value in I I did 50% there I should have done 40 that
[01:59:16] was and I was in a rush and I'm also I'm not really going to be able to notice inside the house I don't think whether or not these are making more power because like I can
[01:59:35] only go Full Throttle for like a fraction of a second before it's rocketing towards another wall but whatever we'll we'll do this real quick if I need to redo this test I
[01:59:49] will I will almost certainly redo this test I also need to do this test with the BetaFPV 1102s and we're not doing that tonight there will be another live stream comparing all three
[02:00:01] of these motors once I've spent some time on these RC and Powers but we can get some good initial feedback here this is the motor that I ran hold on let me turn this
[02:00:13] transmitter off even if the motor is spinning in the wrong direction that doesn't really matter coal Powers is exactly right the propellers will flatten out as
[02:00:27] well okay so here we go let's plug it back in here all right batter's plugged in connect Motors understand the risks let's take motor one up to 50% 50% oh wow it's way lower
[02:01:06] 77,000 it is way lower 77,000 on one 77,000 on another okay so t-motor is horrendously under specking their Motors their KV 76,000 77,000 wow okay well that is super important
[02:01:30] can somebody do the math for me 83,000 versus 77,000 what what is the difference needed in no the vibration you were hearing Justin was it sitting against the desk the the
[02:01:51] motor screw were vibrating against the desk wow man t-motor what are you doing or RC in power what are you doing these RC and Powers Areo supposedly 19,000 KV the t- motors are supposedly
[02:02:10] 18,000 KV I'm assuming because in Chris rosser's testing one or two of the small t- motor Motors were way off the KV was way way way wrong and all of the RC and power motors the KV was pretty right
[02:02:34] so wow what the hell oo the t- motors are also very notchy in comparison these RC and Powers might not make more power these t- motors might be a really powerful
[02:02:56] 102 t- motor makes great 5 in Motors 7.8% difference thank you dude so somebody check me on this I think what that means is that I had these t- motors on an 80% motor limit so I think that
[02:03:14] means that I need to set the motor limit on these RC and powers to 88% right does that work out 88% motor limiting what am I doing I got to plug this right back in CU I got to get the
[02:03:29] motor spin on the right direction with walks now I always like get them unplugged instantly because I know it gets so hot all right plugging this back in and
[02:03:48] connecting and plugging the battery back in Motors motor Direction wizard start and spin motor one is wrong two is wrong three is wrong four is wrong they're all backwards wow it's been a long time
[02:04:12] since this motor Direction wizard has actually worked on a quad and it worked on all four excellent stop Motors close 12 poles great disconnect 88% I'm just going to assume
[02:04:34] that that's the right math and I'm going to go 88% KV is not the whole story if a motor has is constructed better if it has stronger magnets if it has a tighter air gap in between the magnets and the
[02:04:53] Stater poles it will make more power to push the propellers to a higher RPM so even though I'm moving this like these motors might make more power even though without a propeller on them
[02:05:11] they're turning a lower KV and to some extent when when you stamp a KV motor a KV number onto a motor Bell what you're basically doing is stamping how much power it's going to
[02:05:28] make and so there's a KV is not the whole story let's see what kind of RPM this thing turns turns what what did we see on the other one was it 54,000 let me scroll up in
[02:05:46] chat 54,000 okay so let's see where this where this is FPV unknown just got himself banned from the entire Channel congratulations [@$#%] all right good to
[02:06:14] go and that [@$#%] froze awesome all right where is Usos webcam there it is no I don't want to close okay it's just dying on itself Cole you don't have to use much imagination to figure that out just
[02:06:47] think about the the lack of intelligence that that group of people has right that was a pretty mean thing to say I apologize for that not all of them many for sure not all
[02:07:05] though told you I was going to [@$#%] freak out mods didn't even have a chance to see it though no no no blame on the mods whatsoever for that one it popped up like and I saw it instantly
[02:07:25] all right hold on hold on I forgot that I need to put propellers on this thing the really insane thing that is is that the people that did this are the people that use exponentially more of
[02:07:49] the government programs that are going to get destroyed and so they are exponentially making a worse life for themselves it's really it's just the whole thing top to bottom is
[02:08:05] beyond belief and they're going to be the first ones that [@$#%] and moan it's just going to be I mean you guys know you guys have functioning brains so I I don't
[02:08:18] have to explain this to you but and unfortunately this is a situation where like I told you so just doesn't work right there there is no I told you so here because it all Burns
[02:08:34] for everyone and but I mean it it's been for a long time right so take this uptilt down a little bit oh boy hold on let me make sure that he's
[02:09:10] blocked for the entire Channel because you don't get this content if if you're garbage that's not how it works you don't get to have this you get to feel discrimination for
[02:09:26] once in your life why is Els not connecting do I have to rebind this thing every single time I turn it on is that is that the deal here it is settings and and
[02:09:53] community and there it is hidden users good to go all right simple simple simple simple what the hell what what what are you doing little rig you were totally fine
[02:10:23] no you're not okay strange sometimes that happens when you run a battery really low but I did not I did not do that which is weird all right btx is burning
[02:11:03] hot whoa okay well it's got plenty of power I can tell you that this battery is a little bit more discharged than the other one okay let's just check what that was because that's as big of a hit as
[02:11:24] I'm going to be able to get it 55,985 Teddy oh that was a hard hit oh boy was that a hard hit oh man it's the railing that got me and knocked the and knocked the up
[02:12:17] tilts all out my God this thing flies good inside the house for what it is for as heavy oh it's stuck I'm gonna have to go get that oh [@$#%] when I disarmed a second ago did
[02:12:33] did anybody happen to catch what the max ESC RPM was God damn it can somebody rewind I'm just going to be getting it off the thing I won't do anything interesting somebody rewind
[02:12:44] please please please please thank you oh that was that was wild it was it was actually hung up on the it was hung up on the on the Little Hook of the micro like here it was it was on the
[02:13:02] edge of the thing I don't I don't actually that was pulling on the on the UFL I think this battery is pretty much shot I'm going to pull it's fine 6x1 saw it 52,000 okay so
[02:13:20] going from 88% down to 80 brought us down a little bit but the battery was dead let's let's throw another battery through it we'll see if we can get it back up to that
[02:13:34] 55,000 number that's it though I'm GNA I'm going to stop there I I that crash upstairs was really nasty I I don't I don't want to keep doing that with this upstairs is not not the place
[02:13:51] for these hold on actually also I forgot to check the the canopy screws to make sure that they were even and they were not even at all okay there we
[02:14:10] go that's better all right so let's see 55,000 before 52,000 after 52717 on the crash thank you guys all right fresh battery we'll get it right upstairs no we we'll do a
[02:14:35] couple blasts down here that's what I did on the other Motors I did a couple blasts down here and then I went upstairs but it turned the same RPM upstairs and down here look at that
[02:14:45] it didn't need to be bound this time that's awesome this USB to HDMI cable is just useless try my best to keep an eye on OBS to make sure that you guys have video all right fully charged
[02:15:09] battery wo my God it's got like the same response time and power as like the 40,000 KV 72s in the 1S rigs but it's way heavier like when you go to change
[02:15:28] direction it's a whole different beast wow that was sketchy as hell that was a big full thr throttle blast rip though this should have the max KV 54,500 almost the same so 100 less
[02:15:48] RPM for Motors that from AAS V standpoint were 8% lower if you ever needed an example of KV not being everything there it is my friends wow this thing is ridiculous in
[02:16:08] here it's just it's just heavy I mean all these [@$#%] all these 75s are heavy inside the house here this is only a couple grams heavier than that than them I should say but this has
[02:16:30] all that power oh boy oh God oh my God I can blip the throttle anywhere and throw this thing through these through these Gates this is this is reckless as [@$#%] in
[02:17:08] here oh nope oh my God the fact that I can do any of this stuff in the house is a testament to how good this build is to how to the fact that 2S is the way wow I didn't run the battery all the
[02:17:55] way down but I I just I don't want to break everything in sight that is nutty that is absolutely nutty wheo okay last battery is just going to get well no I'll fly this last
[02:18:15] battery outside tomorrow that's what I'll do but for right now you guys should go watch Super Deluxe or whoever else is streaming after after me here they've been streaming for a
[02:18:28] while so go go show them some love tell them Ciotti sent you thanks for coming I'll see you guys on Sunday at 3 o'clock I don't know I don't know what I I I I wish there was anything
[02:18:52] that I could say to make anything better but there's not and it's going to be bad it's going to be real bad for everyone especially the people that did this but that that that's not that that
[02:19:13] that doesn't make it any better that doesn't make it any better this is just not an I Told You So situation so best of luck we're going to need it I I'm going to post
[02:19:40] something one more time that if you're not a coward you should watch if you're a coward don't watch it but there it is you guys should watch that regardless of what side you're
[02:19:55] on if you're on the side filled with love then it's a lot of stuff that you already know if you're on the other side it's what you you need to know and if you're a coward
[02:20:11] you won't watch it but if you're not a coward you should watch that so do that it's also on my Discord in General nonsense at 1:50 p.m. there you go be good friends best of luck to us
[02:20:28] all I'll see you guys on Sunday here's some more of the 1S rig out in front of the house a n