[00:00:54]   heyyy hey heyy hey you filthy animals my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti welcome to whoop Wednesday hold

[00:03:42]   on greetings greetings crom was first in the chat Zoe 101 dog with the blog was next Bob Bruce Curtis Hayes drumman druman FPV doubles FPV Uriel King dingling Frank Nicholas fing

[00:03:57]   goat lster hockey rounds himo Scotty Scott CB FPV brand is baked beans is in the house MX pickles make mucus every day with Bruno Douglas 6 661 FPV RT mcken Kevin Jay

[00:04:11]   Shane and Mindy hail Islander ver balance what's up everybody thanks for coming tonight we're going to take a look at whether or not I I I this will probably be the end

[00:04:27]   of like the content that I make surround ing the air 65 Champion since they only made a thousand of them right and you can't get it anymore so it doesn't make a lot of sense for me to continue

[00:04:38]   to pour time into this thing but I'm super curious oh the motors are direct soldered oh my God why me why oh really all right change of plans oh my God I completely forgot

[00:05:11]   about that am I willing to cut a set of motor plugs man I don't want to solder on a set of Motors oh my God wny do people solder Motors on the tiny whoops um um well [@$#%] no I'm not doing it I'm not

[00:05:57]    I'm not I this is this is going to stay together damn it I completely forgot about that at some point I'll get one of the the air aios that has the motor plugs on

[00:06:15]   it and I'll do a an Ultimate Freestyle tiny woop build with that oh my Godthat's so annoying okay I'm going to completely change this live stream I'm going to completely

[00:06:32]   change this live stream um because this is a great setup this AO with these motors is awesome these motors make good power I know what we're going to do I know what we're

[00:06:47]   going to do we are going to put propeller we're going to put GemFan 1210s onto this all right so we're going to do two things we're going to compare the HQ 1.2x .9

[00:07:04]   by3 propellers the new HQ ultral light props to the gem finin 1210 by blades again we already kind of did that but I've spent more time on these propellers and so we're going to

[00:07:20]   compare props tonight we are also going to once this setup is on these by blad I'm going to show you guys how you can basically have your own little bench test setup using ESC Telemetry

[00:07:42]   and the RPM data that comes back into BetaFlight and what we're going to do is we're going to spin these 30,000 KV BetaFPV Motors up with these GemFan 1210 props on them we're going to see

[00:07:55]   what kind of RPM they make and then we're going to take a different rig we could do it with this one with 36,000 KV Motors maybe we'll do it with a couple different Rigs and we'll take a look at the RPM

[00:08:14]   that they make and the the premise behind like is changing over to HappyModel 32572 is an upgrade or not the premise is basically how under specked are these 30,000 KV BetaFPV Motors and or how

[00:08:36]   over speced are the HappyModel 0 72s so the main premise of the live stream remains what I'm G to keep I'm going to keep this live stream named what it's named because the only

[00:08:53]   point of variability here is going to be the the the the only way that the the way that I'm going to test this could be screwed up is if the air 65 AIO magically makes more power than

[00:09:12]   like a 2g4 and we've already messed around with that and we've already seen that between the X12 and the 2g4 they turned the same with the same Motors they were turning the same

[00:09:25]   RPM and that's comparing 12 amp fets to 5 amp fets so if there was going to be a situation where different aios produce different amounts of power it would be there it would certainly not be

[00:09:39]   a BetaFPV 5 aamp AIO versus a HappyModel 5 aamp AIO what I'm saying does that make sense so we can still do this we can still test whether or not swapping out these

[00:09:53]   30,000 KV BetaFPV Motors to oh all right there is a kink in the plan and that is direct soldered versus motor plugs do I have any HappyModel

[00:10:13]   Motors that are direct soldered is the question if I do then we'll be okay and I think I might let's take a quick look oh I'm a genius I do I do I do I do I do I do on this guy right here

[00:10:28]   perfect this has direct soldered 40,000 KV I think Motors this is the the crazy crazy crazy crazy all right 40,000 KV if if if 40,000 KV HappyModel Motors don't make more RPM than 30,000 KV BetaFPV Motors

[00:10:55]   then I don't know who should be slapped BetaFPV for under specking their Motors so much or HappyModel for over specking their Motors so much somebody needs to get slapped if that's the case

[00:11:08]    we can probably use math at that point once we get those RPMs to kind of figure this out a little bit better too to but I I leave that to you people I I don't use math that that's

[00:11:27]   that's you guys so cool we can still do it what what I was one of the things I was actually really looking forward to was swapping a cockroach V3 frame onto this and seeing if it gains or loses

[00:11:44]   weight and see if seeing if that changes the flight characteristics this is the air 65 Frame on here which is okay it's totally fine when you pair it with the taller Motors so we're we're okay

[00:11:56]   we're good we can I can still test whether or not wee bed screamer 072 32,500 are un upgrade or not in a in a bit of a roundabout way we'll we'll test direct soldered

[00:12:14]   40,000 and if there's not a giant difference in the RPM between 40,000 KV happy models and 30,000 KV beta fpvs what that basically means is the 32,500 would not be an up grade does that

[00:12:30]   make sense hopefully that makes sense and in the in the process of doing so we will compare some propellers cool everybody okay with that if you're not sucks to be

[00:12:45]   you so these screamers are going to go on something else I'm not sure what I'll put them right here and then I'll find a home for them those are the new screamers with

[00:12:58]   the one half millimeter motor shafts which is why I really want to put them on something cool let me get caught up on the chat this is my full-time job if you like this and you would like to

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[00:14:38]   how you show up for me I'm showing up for you you show up for me we'll show up for each other we'll hang out forever what do you say this is a lesson that I learned

[00:14:51]   from my dance instructor Wilder who unfortunately took his own life a couple weeks ago I took Maggie and I realized that Maggie realized that we we took Wilder for granted we became friends

[00:15:08]   with him but we were friends with him at his dance class and what we took for granted is that he showed up for us every single Sunday and he was there every single Sunday and we didn't

[00:15:25]   have anything going on Sunday nights but there were Sunday nights that we were just being lazy and we didn't go and we didn't show up for him and now that Wilder's gone we have we both have deep

[00:15:39]    regret for that especially because we didn't show up for Wilder after the election when a lot of people were very negatively affected and so that is H that was a life

[00:15:57]   lesson that that I will never forget if there's something in my life that I want to continue that I enjoy I will do whatever it takes to show up for that and support whatever that is and if

[00:16:10]   that thing doesn't stay around I will have zero regret because I will know that I showed up for that thing for that person for that whatever to the best of my

[00:16:21]   ability and so there you go there's your potential life lesson for the for the evening I actually just got back from Wicked Westy West Coast Swing dance class tonight the Maggie and I are kind of

[00:16:39]   sort of taking over the Sunday night dance classes as like kind of instructors and so I've actually dropped back down to the beginner class on Wednesday nights because the

[00:16:51]   folks in the Sunday night class want to learn West Coast Swing and so by dropping down to the beginner classes I'm now paying attention to they're teaching it I've always been a

[00:17:01]   student in those classes for like the last six months I have not really paid much attention to how the instructors have been instructing I've been paying attention to like how the hell to move

[00:17:10]   my body in a way that they're showing me how to do it and so tonight was was really really cool to go with a different mindset of like learning how to teach this stuff and

[00:17:25]   if you've ever done that if if you've ever like mindfully figured out how to how to teach a thing that you love you'll know that you you gain like a deeper understanding of it and it's

[00:17:37]   really really cool you would think it would be like kind of a waste of time but it really isn't like you you really learn the nuts and bolts of it to be able to teach something well you have to

[00:17:49]   really know it and when it comes to dance I don't really know it like I just started this year I super green but this is a really interesting kind of challenge that I'm really excited

[00:18:05]   about and um it also feels really good to take this like thing that Wilder created this and just help it move forward and I also have come to find out that so he had dance classes

[00:18:23]   pretty much every night of the week all over Atlanta and I just kind of found out that the other dance classes which are they're also trying to figure out what to do here they're using us as like

[00:18:35]   a model of like what to do and how to kind of keep this thing going which is just unbelievable that's super like flattering and awesome and so hopefully

[00:18:48]   all of all of those classes will continue all of those communities that he helped bring together all of those friends all of those people will keep showing up on the night that they're

[00:18:58]   used to is showing up and hanging out and having fun and smiling and stepping on each other's toes and having a good time so yeah cool stuff very very cool stuff in the

[00:19:13]   chat if you want to talk to me directly all you got to do is type c FPV King dingling tagged me and saidso gum fan has a 35mm s in triblade and bade now maybe it's time to try meteor 65 Pro

[00:19:24]   for indoor/outdoor with 30,000 KV RS o2s also hope you get to fly the new HD Zer mobula 7 soon so I've got a race day quads shopping cart almost at the free shipping Mark and I've

[00:19:41]   already got those I just happened to see them the other night I've already got the the the byblade version of those propellers in that cart I'm not going to bother with the tri blades basically

[00:19:55]   because that that build with the bigger problem in the bigger heavier frame it's already it's already going to be too heavy for indoor stuff for like really really good indoor stuff and

[00:20:09]   not probably not quite powerful enough for outdoor stuff I am super interested to see what it's a couple of sets of props I already have the frame I already have the motors and

[00:20:24]   so it's like a $10 experiment that I know that people want to see and so I'm going to do it regardless but I can already tell you that it's not going to

[00:20:35]   be as good as the lighter weight stuff for inside and then it's just more than likely not going to make enough power for outside but we're going to do it I'm going to use

[00:20:48]   802 33,000 just to get the absolute most power possible out of it also like those propellers are not much bigger right it's 30 mm versus 35 millim so 12 12ish 12 and a half I guess is

[00:21:06]   percent bigger probably not enough but we'll give it a shot I guess I should also try those on 702 they might be light enough we'll see I'll weigh them and we'll see I wouldn't

[00:21:20]   think 702 would be quite enough though but we'll do an experiment and see but for the record don't hold your breath don't like jump on that bandwagon and get a bunch of those

[00:21:33]   bigger 65s or 65 Pro frames CU I can almost guarantee you that the the extra weight it's not going to be worth it the the the problems that those 35mm props solve don't exist is is basically

[00:21:53]   the deal going to a bigger propeller you do because you want more efficiency and we have enough efficiency on these guys and the batteries are cheap and the batteries are really quick to swap in

[00:22:06]   and out so it's solves it's just it doesn't solve any problems in the same way that like fractal frames they don't solve any problems they're just different so if if you're

[00:22:18]   just doing it for the sake of being different cool if you think it's going to do anything better it's not and you're just going to sit there in Placebo of like well I just spent this

[00:22:29]   money and spent all this time moving this thing over so I'm going to keep trying to convince myself that it does X or Y or Z better but it just doesn't and so watch out for

[00:22:41]   that the the the hype train is really good at like convincing us that like the newest thing is is magically better but in an awful lot of cases it's not every once in a while it is every once

[00:22:54]   in a while we get a new product in FPV that does improve things but it's probably quite a bit less than 50/50 that like a new product is actually really better not just like oh

[00:23:09]   this is 0.01% better for one person out of 10 right so careful with that the hype train will will steer you wrong probably more often than than it'll steer you right but we are going to try

[00:23:24]   it for sure RT mckin says 661 says have you seen and have you ordered the new Matrix AI from BetaFPV that seems like a possibly good AO I I've seen it I was just talking

[00:23:41]   about it haven't ordered one BetaFPV has been sending me some stuff here and there and so I'm not going to spend the money on it I'm also not going to spend the money on it

[00:23:54]   because I'm afraid that the the UFL Port is just going to rip off off which I've had a bunch of issues with and so if if they're willing to send me one I'll I'll go for it but I'm I'm

[00:24:09]   not going to buy one I'm actually on Instagram real quick here in my messages looking for Ellie there's Ellie hi Ellie are you looking for anyone to test the new

[00:24:29]   matrix it's called The Matrix right Matrix AIO by chance my chat has been asking about it and I and I would love to do a build with it to compare to the Happy

[00:24:56]   model aiio with plugs see that that's how you do it my friends that's how you you secretly there's a there's a book there's a super douchy book that is like incredibly popular in the sales

[00:25:20]   World every like douchebag salesperson has this book at their cubicle what's it called how to how to something something something and convince people how

[00:25:36]   to dot dot dot people book hold on let's see if that'll find it there it is how to win friends and influence people that's it um how to win friends there you

[00:25:49]   go that's how you win friends and influence people don't buy that book that book is just it's very manipulative don't don't don't be don't don't be manipulative

[00:26:04]   it's bad it's not cool LS says did my six packs hell my friend I flew my WalkSnail 75 millimet 35 grams dry around a room a bit smaller than your basement after four months of sim only

[00:26:17]    does that tell me good things about my flying prowess I it's realistically it doesn't because just flying around a room I I guess it does being able to fly a tiny whoop inside it's hard it's hard as hell I

[00:26:38]   don't you didn't say how how many times you crashed you didn't say how hard you flew it around the room but like straight up flying tiny whoops inside the house is difficult the end so yes

[00:26:49]   yes being able to fly inside is is a big step there are quite a few really good Pilots that don't fly tiny whoops inside you like 5 in Pilots that don't fly tiny whoops in the house because of

[00:27:06]   how difficult it is so just being able to do that at all is an accomplishment for sure there's the the the skill sealing to doing that is super high you can fly thousands and thousands and

[00:27:25]   thousands of batteries inside the house with tiny whoops and every the this thousand and2 battery you'll be you'll get better than the thousand and first battery it's really wild how

[00:27:39]   difficult it is and to start doing the the the momentum moves the three-dimensional moves it's just ridiculously difficult so that's where that's why the six batteries a day

[00:27:53]   thing is so sort of I don't know if important is the right word what I mean when I say that right if you want to be able to rip inside the house six batteries a

[00:28:04]   day is the way and it is kind of a requirement you you've got to put hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of batteries in to be able to do any of the stuff that you see me do

[00:28:16]   inside the house I've done that I am thousands of batteries in to Flying tiny whoops inside the house I've put that time in and that's why I can do what I do they I don't care how naturally

[00:28:30]   gifted you are at flying FPV it's ridiculously difficult and you're going to have to put a lot of time and effort in to really get good at it luckily putting that time and

[00:28:44]   effort in is super [@$#%] fun it is super fun to fly ttin tiny whoops inside the house you feel like a little mosquito that's like buzzing around right and so in the process

[00:28:56]   it's super weird right like there's these things in our lives that are very fun for us to do but we still have to like kind of force ourselves sounds weird to say it but

[00:29:10]   sometimes you have to force yourself to have fun folks with mental illness will know exactly what I mean in the depths of depression one of the most frustrating

[00:29:25]   things is that it makes makes you not want to do the things that you love to do and it is absolutely maddening and when you start to get a handle on your depression you find awareness

[00:29:40]   first and you become aware of this and you'll be in an episode and you'll catch yourself and you'll be like oh okay I'm in a depressive episode I need to stop doing the things that that I

[00:29:55]   hate to do or stop working and do things that I enjoy doing and one of the Super Evil things is that the the depression will continue to be so strong that you won't do it and

[00:30:09]   you'll just sit there in this in this weird place of like I know I should want I should jump on that simulator and spend a half an hour in one of the the most amazing virtual reality

[00:30:26]   driving Motorsport things that's ever been created but I can't and I won't and I'm not going to and it's just so frustrating but that's the that's the work when when folks that

[00:30:42]   are that are getting their their mental health that are improving their mental health talk about the work that's what it is it's getting your ass in that [@$#%] Sim rig and sitting

[00:30:57]   there for half an hour and then unfortunately a lot of times you come out of it like I know that was kind of fun but you don't come out of it like better like you don't just do that and

[00:31:08]   then at the end of a half an hour or an hour you're like great I'm not in a depressive habit you're still in it you're you're still all the way in there but you're a little bit out of it and

[00:31:20]   then you you got to do something else you got to go eat something that's healthy you got to get rest you got to right do all of these other things to actually claw your way out of it and

[00:31:35]    it's kind of forever which is one of the other really frustrating Parts about it is that that doesn't go away you get to do that basically for the rest of your life but you do it

[00:31:51]   because you got to stick around for the people that love you and there's window into into me mental illness that you didn't ask for but you're going to get whether you like it

[00:32:02]   or not because this live stream is more than just FPV stuff it's real life stuff and I've gotten so many messages from people over the years that have thanked me for actually

[00:32:14]   talking about this [@$#%] and so you're going to have to listen to it because if if I can help somebody if I can help those of you that don't have it learn about it so that you can spot it

[00:32:24]   in someone else maybe a loved one that you may help not leave the Earth that was worth it wasn't it and or if you have it me talking about it makes you realize that like you're

[00:32:38]   not all alone which is another thing that that that depression is really good at convincing you is that it's just you and that the world would be a better off place without you and it's just

[00:32:47]   [@$#%] it depression lies but the lies are really powerful and they're very hard to see through so there you go my friends himo says oh I just bro I just bricked the 1 ESC on beta

[00:33:02]   fpv4 4 in1 AO how' you do that would you please help me locate the pins oh my God I'm desperate for help wow I have no idea I how did you brick it though in eight years of doing this I've never

[00:33:18]   managed to Brick an ESC how did you brick it if you're looking for the pins you're going to have to get in touch with BetaFPV that that is that is not common knowledge bricking

[00:33:36]   esc's is outrageously rare so where the pins are and which pin is which is like super not common info you can try to look up the the exact you said 4 in one AIO that could be the old one

[00:33:55]   that could be the new one I'm not sure but you can try to look that AIO up on beta fpb's website and there's a chance that they'll have a technical drawing of the top and bottom labeling

[00:34:07]   out every single pin but boy do I doubt it you're going to need to get in touch with them luckily these companies will get back to you message them on Instagram or Facebook or all the above

[00:34:18]    and they will get back to you but my main question is how the hell did you brick it I've done all kinds of dumb [@$#%] and I've never been able to Brick an ESC I've always been able to just

[00:34:28]   go back into BL heli blue J whatever and reflash the ESC and it will like unbrick whichever channel was was previously bricked so CB FPV says how does a 2-in cine whoop Pusher

[00:34:46]   compare to Motors up I think it depends on each specific frame the only the the only situation that I've ever heard of where someone has tested both on the exact same frame the exact same build

[00:35:07]   the exact same Motors is the qav which Ryan harell designed so in this specific frame box frame guards top and bottom right in this specific frame The Pusher configuration is 20%

[00:35:31]   more efficient I did not believe that so I talked to Ryan about it and hey was like I didn't believe it either and we kept testing it over and over again and every time we repeated the

[00:35:44]   test this specific frame was 20% more efficient set up as a pusher what's cool is this Frame is very easy to convert from puller to Pusher the the camera cage up front here is

[00:36:00]   symmetrical so you can just take this camera cage and flip it upside down flip the whole thing upside down go into BetaFlight reverse the motor Direction change the motor

[00:36:09]   location you got to change the motor locations and Away you go what Ryan and I both believe is that that is specific to this Frame each different frame is going to be a

[00:36:23]   different scenario box frames are weird having this guard on the top and the bottom and it's flat carbon fiber which is not aerodynamic at all this is a pretty shitty aerodynamic situation

[00:36:38]   for the propellers they've got a lot of garbage to try to pull air past and then push air through so most other frame designs are much more aerodynamic from a motor and propeller standpoint

[00:36:58]   and what Bri what Ryan and I both think is that that 20% would be much less if not negligible on most other frames especially like a regular just like a regular open propeller arm

[00:37:20]   just sort of arm blocking the thrust frame so there you go that that's all I can really tell you about that what's what's fascinating to me about that is that the entire like World of

[00:37:38]   Aeronautics Aeronautical Engineering is the complete opposite of that where you want to keep the you want to keep above the propeller completely clear of any obstructions because that is where

[00:37:57]   like the actual work happens the work that a propeller does is that it pulls air it doesn't actually push air I mean it does push air but the the air is just static and

[00:38:13]   so it has to pull that air down right the the air doesn't want to move so the work that it's doing is pulling that air down and then down below the propeller it's just just get it out just get it

[00:38:27]   out of the way we always think of thrust as that positive thrust right but like in all of all of everything that I've seen about like propellers and just the the high and low pressure zones

[00:38:42]   everything says to keep the the low pressure Zone up above the propeller completely clear clear and free so a regular helicopter right with the one main rotor it's very efficient

[00:38:55]   because above that one main rotor there's no obstructions and it very efficiently pulls that down pulls that air down and then it just just get it out down below the propeller but like

[00:39:07]   from a from like a this seems right standpoint right like in our brains we we with certain things that are surrounding engineering we'll be like oh that makes sense

[00:39:19]   that that that tracks right we think about the thrust right we we we put the quad above our head we Hammer the throttle and it pushes down on us we're like oh that's that thrust but we

[00:39:30]   don't think about that low pressure Zone up above the propeller and apparently that's where all the magic happens I think another example of that is like the the on airplane Wings they put the

[00:39:43]   winglets up they don't put the winglets down at the at the tip of the wing to manage the vortices right so they're putting that winglet up into the low pressure Zone to have a barrier there

[00:39:54]    I think that's one of the other things that kind of show that the in most cases the low pressure zone is more important than the high pressure Zone but with

[00:40:04]   quads the aerodynamic situation that these things are in is absurd it's a disaster like aerodynamically these things are a mess but for having Motors that will very accurately and and

[00:40:21]   with a lot of like Authority and a lot of power and response time will take this thing and move it in any direction this is how to do it right you put four Motors four propellers and they

[00:40:34]   control all four axises uh all three axises well they control two axises pitch and roll directly and then the yaw axis is controlled by the by the centrifugal force right but

[00:40:50]   quads are an amazingly accurate way to move in our case a camera around but like from an efficiency standpoint and from like an aerodynamic standpoint it's a disaster ESP and especially with

[00:41:04]   like a box frame that's got guards around the propellers on the top and the bottom and then these standoffs that are going in there it's just sort of a mess and in those

[00:41:15]   situations where you're you're you don't have a clean aerodynamic setup all kinds of weird [@$#%] can happen and that's yeah that's what Ryan and I kind of think is is the reason why that

[00:41:31]    has that incredible 20% difference in efficiency wild but on every single other build it's probably a lot every single other frame design it's probably a lot

[00:41:45]   less drastic and or I wouldn't be surprised if it's the other way around I wouldn't be surprised if maybe like a an open prop design with just one single piece of carbon

[00:42:00]   obstructing the airf flow I wouldn't be surprised if this is more efficient as a puller than it would be as a pusher U but that's based on nothing that's just based on all of sort of the

[00:42:15]   research in the in the world of Aeronautics that I've seen by just Googling this stuff because I'm fascinated by it you you always have to mount the motor that the propeller is

[00:42:28]   connected to in some way shape or form right so when you do that research and they talk about how important it is for the low pressure Zone versus the high pressure Zone they're testing

[00:42:39]   that on things that have the motor mounted some way and that is not aerodynamic right the best way to do it is to have the propeller just in free space just magically turning with pixie

[00:42:51]   dust but obviously that doesn't happen so Sprite gross Kevin J says smash the like button folks because CiottiFPV has the coolest thumbnails ever thank you dude it's

[00:43:14]   been actually really fun to spend a little bit more time on the thumbnails and play around a little bit more with lighting I I've I've I've

[00:43:25]   missed I I I in certain ways I miss photography I I I shot still images for a lot of years and I really did burn it out but what I burned out was the the image processing side

[00:43:43]   spending like four to eight hours in Lightroom all night every night was a terrible idea but I had tens of thousands of images to get through and I wanted to get through them typically

[00:43:57]   of people autocrossing and at track days and other Motorsports things I wanted to get people those images because it's amazing to have stills of yourself railing around a racetrack

[00:44:10]   in the car that you've put thousands of dollars into and lots of time and effort into getting tuned properly and it also you you learn about what the car is doing dynamically

[00:44:21]   you'll see the car like pulling a tire up in the air and you can kind of look at where you're at in the corner and learn things from it so uh 661 says also have you

[00:44:32]   seen the new BNF HappyModel mobula 7 HD with the hd0 ao5 and the new RS 802 25,000 KB Motors no I haven't no [@$#%] HappyModel ao5 mobula 7 HD I mean that makes sense they're just

[00:44:49]   putting a different a different frame and motors on the hd0 ao5 build very cool that makes that makes a lot of sense I've not seen it though danilla terrible says consumers like big

[00:45:04]   numbers why would motor manufacturers under speec a motor they're not doing it on purpose I believe that Happy models method of measuring KV is closer to the real way of

[00:45:26]   measuring k V than BetaFPV and so I I I think saying that HappyModel over specs their their KV is unfair I think it's more fair to say that BetaFPV UND specs their KV and

[00:45:51]   I believe it's because the two different companies just have a different methodology a different thought process on how to calculate the KV HappyModel calculates the KV running the

[00:46:03]   motors at a much lower voltage than BetaFPV And so but there I don't necessarily know if there's like a thing that says like 100% no matter what this is how you calculate KV right like like

[00:46:23]   there's just there's there's no standardization there probably is I I I think it's the whole put one volt through it I think the put one volt through the motor and then measure the

[00:46:37]   RPM I I think that's the right way of doing it but as with all things in FPV there's zero standardization nobody cares about it and so comparing anything but from one manufacturer to

[00:46:51]   the next is damn near impossible and you just got to kind of fly them and see how they perform to make your mind up which is absolutely maddening Ray FPV says was waiting

[00:47:10]   for you to hop on this evening thanks for doing this so late on some days you're certainly welcome tonight I'm I changed from 8 to 10 to 10 to 12 Eastern because of

[00:47:24]   the dance classes that I go to Monday night I would love to go back to 8 to 10 but Joshua's been streaming 8 to 10 so Monday is now back to 10 to 12 but the other thing is that 10 to 12

[00:47:38]   works really well for West Coast folks right so in California my 10 to 12 streams are 7 to n and so for me to put on a show that like everybody in the US can can enjoy this really really

[00:47:57]   is the time slot right like if I go much earlier than this there's going to be people in California still driving home from work even still at work when the stream goes up so the the 10 to 12

[00:48:11]   slot my main problem with with 10 to 12 Eastern is that I am complet a if I go long it goes to 12:30 it goes to 1:00 a.m. but the bigger problem is that I'm wired at the end of these live streams

[00:48:26]    and it takes me at least a couple of hours to bring it down and be able to get any sleep although the pandemic just demolished my sleep schedule anyway and I've always been a night person

[00:48:41]   and so it's fine it's totally fine the the my brain comes alive in like before noon I'm worthless absolutely and utterly worthless regardless of whether I got 6 hours 7

[00:48:59]   hours 8 hours 9 hours 10 hours of sleep it just doesn't matter before 12:00 noon I can't function I I'm just worthless to the world I don't come up with any good ideas I don't feel like

[00:49:12]   doing anything I I just want to die in the afternoon I start to like actually come alive and then after dark is is when I do all my best kind of work and thinking and whatnot so

[00:49:30]   this this 10 to 12 eastern time slot works pretty well for me I feel bad for Maggie because most nights she has to go to sleep alone but I I try to get in there and get some sleep with

[00:49:43]   her at some point and then one of us has to get aelia up at 500 a.m. and on the bus and then we always get to sleep from like 6 sleep together from like 600 until whenever the first person

[00:49:58]   always Maggie has to wake up so it's not that bad I guess but I I it I don't I don't love that she has to go to sleep alone so often but there are couples that sleep in separate

[00:50:13]   beds and or in separate rooms so this is a lot better than than plenty of people out there so it is what it is Brandon's B Bean says driving instructor drone instructor dance

[00:50:25]   instructor it's funny I I've I've spent way more time as a driving instructor than everything else combined when I started instructing through Fiverr helping

[00:50:40]   people fly better I was like man this is fun I really enjoy doing this and to be honest I'm really good at it this last Sunday was the first time I ever instructed dance and I was like

[00:50:54]   horrified cuz this is like this is this is the first time ever that I'm instructing something that I'm not like totally confident that I'm a [@$#%] badass at and so I was

[00:51:04]   horrified I'm like oh this is going to be a mess like I'm nowhere near good enough to teach anybody this luckily there's a lot of beginners in that class and it went shockingly

[00:51:17]   well and it's also like really hit me again that like I'm pretty good at it just regardless I'm just good at explaining things in a way that makes sense to people and then explaining it

[00:51:32]   in a different way that makes sense to everybody that didn't get the first way and it's also super fun it's really really rewarding to see people figure [@$#%] out and to be able to like

[00:51:46]   give your knowledge to other people to help them do something that's difficult or do something that's fun or have more fun or make some friends or like whatever and so it's

[00:52:00]    it's I'm a lucky guy I'm very lucky to have had a life where it comes supernaturally to me and it's a combination of just everything everything that's

[00:52:18]   that's happened in my life from playing drums from a very young age to like performing quite a bit on stage with jazz band with concert band with marching band with like all kinds of

[00:52:32]   stuff and then we are what we eat skic says finally convinced me just joined your patreon thank you brother welcome to the gangest of gangs whoever just bought some stuff

[00:52:50]   on BetaFPV with my affiliate link thank you that was very cool of you there you are is that you David David Wing welcome to this patreon thank you for supporting me much much appreciated

[00:53:07]    what is hold on is this something FPV related there's a there's a this is like one of the last orders I'm going to have done on Amazon I'm really trying to get off of

[00:53:25]    I convinced Maggie to cancel Prime and I'm going to re I'm trying really hard to not order anything on Amazon anymore boy is it hard though what is this okay all right good

[00:53:40]   so this is this and then hell is this these are Christmas presents what is this oh I know what this is all right these are Christmas present all right cool I didn't order

[00:53:52]   any FPV stuff on there you guys can't see those I it's just it won't there's no reason for you to see them they're just random Christmas presents look at that flight test

[00:54:04]   extended their cyber bundai deals anybody buy anything from flight test has anyone ever bought anything from flight test anyone out there mail delivery donkey who typed their email address in

[00:54:19]   wrong come on now all right cool I'm going to I think that's a feel a feel says my flight controller has a builtin SPI receiver could not bind it to my radio could I solder a separate

[00:54:38]   elrs receiver for the flight controller or does that not work it depends if the flight controller has uarts then yes you should absolutely be able to and since it's a receiver not a

[00:54:54]   transmitter you're totally okay doing that when when you have an AIO or a flight controller that has a VTX on it's a different story because that VTX is transmitting so if you try to put

[00:55:06]   another VTX on it they're both going to be transmitting and it's just not good also the the built-in VTX is going to get really hot Brian Davis thank you for the subscription brother

[00:55:16]   brother but with a receiver it's fine you can leave that receiver on there and then hook up a second one but spend a little bit more time they're they're there's almost always if

[00:55:27]   it's elrs here's what I'll say if it's elrs if you just keep trying eventually you'll get it to bind elrs can be a real son of a [@$#%] sometimes if the depending on the version of beta

[00:55:45]   flight that the flight controller is on it might be elrs 3.0 or it might be elrs 2.5 so there's that to figure out if you look up what the specific flight controller is sometimes there's

[00:56:02]   multiple different ways to put it into binding mode so maybe you're not able to get it into binding mode the the built-in receiver could have so in the case of like the the

[00:56:15]   hummingbird version 3.1 the crystal oscillator on the elrs is tuned a little bit differently so there are certain modules that just won't work with it so in that

[00:56:27]   scenario yes you the the internal is useless and you can put an external one on and now you'll be fine but with elrs if you're having trouble binding spend as much time as you possibly can

[00:56:43]   trying to figure it out go to sleep come back to it the next day or a couple days later and spend all that time all over again and you'll probably get it if you don't get it at at that point maybe

[00:56:58]   bail maybe come back a third day and spend a bunch more time and then you might still get it's that annoying sometimes they've made it a lot better but there's still a lot of old

[00:57:11]   school elrs stuff out there that's still kind of annoying so with Express lrs if it's a tiny whoop the weight of an external receiver is an act is is going to make it fly noticeably worse so

[00:57:29]   if like really try hard to get the internal elrs working cuz it is really really nice tonian says looking at a lightweight 3-in build not wanting to go up to t-motor 1404 looking at RC and

[00:57:44]   power 1303 is 6,000 KV appropriate for 3in props on those Motors it depends on the voltage if you're going to do 4S then you're going to have to motor limit that down a little bit if you're

[00:57:58]   going to do 3S then you can run that at 100% so that's the there you go Ray's FPV says I recently picked up a Vision 40 and in the first day fried the VTX grinding up a house plant

[00:58:14]   waiting on a replacement was wondering if I should replace the frame too if so what frame no The Vision 40 is a is a great build it's pretty much all the right parts the only thing that

[00:58:25]   I would change about it is the slightly heavier TPU canopy TPU is just it's a heavy material so but the The Vision 40 is like good top to bottom and I mean the canopy is not that bad it's

[00:58:37]   just a little too heavy it's a little heavy but I would leave it alone leave it alone it's a it's a they did a great job with that the the the brainchild Behind The Vision 40 is Tyler

[00:58:51]   gruss and he knows his stuff and that's I I attribute how good division 40 is to just him just spending the time putting the effort in and just knowing his stuff so it's a it's

[00:59:05]   a really well speec out build Cole pow says cfp win friends win win friends Curtis hay says speaking of your early years I watched your stacked table Matty flip this week and it sounded like you had

[00:59:21]   just been to a RoR Riot whoop Camp no that was quad camp is what it was called there's never been like a whoop specific thing other than like races with whoops yeah no that so that was

[00:59:38]   called quad camp and it was something that rotor Riot did that it's such a cool idea but it's just impossible to make money from it was couple of hundred bucks it was two days long you

[00:59:54]   would go rotor Riot would pay a bunch of professional Pilots to host the event and then you could spend the time building flying hanging it was mainly surrounding like building better learning to build

[01:00:14]   learning to build better not necessarily Learning to Fly Learning to Fly better though and it quad camp was really really cool I went to the second quad camp that they ever had

[01:00:29]   which was here in Atlanta this was back when I lived in Charleston and then I went to they did a bunch of quad camps I don't know which one it was but then they did another quad camp at Joshua

[01:00:43]   bardwell's house I met Joshua at the original quad camp and then we messaged back and forth a bunch when they did the quad camp at his house he asked me if I could come and help

[01:00:58]   them and instruct and help people build and fly and all that good stuff which I gladly did and so I went I did that quad camp which was an absolute blast and then they

[01:01:12]   didn't have many more I I I think they only maybe had like five or six or seven quad camps it was expensive it was like 300 and something dollars I think

[01:01:27]   because you couldn't you couldn't sell a 100 tickets right you couldn't put a hundred of us and then have enough instructors to like give each individual person any actual amount of time right

[01:01:42]   so like it just it just didn't make sense financially they they're they could not charge the attendees enough money to be able to cover renting the location paying all of the pro Pilots

[01:01:56]   right flying everybody to this place cuz they they had to have the quad camps all over the place you couldn't have more than one in Atlanta because you only really needed to go to one of

[01:02:05]   them right so they would have to have one in Atlanta fly all the pilots there they would have they had another one in California fly all the prop Pilots there have another one in New York

[01:02:14]   fly right it's just infinitely expensive to do it cool concept though super cool concept Rampage on the other hand they can have it in the same spot every time they can have

[01:02:27]   hundreds of people there right so it's but that was quad camp and that was when that happened Cole power says I think there's plenty of people who do six batteries a day

[01:02:40]   they're not do six packs a day they're not Pilots though that's true you imagine smoking six packs of cigarettes a day I don't think that's real I've heard of like one or two packs a day but I

[01:02:53]   mean if you're smoking six a day you're dead by now Jesus and you're also like jobless because you can't smoke that many cigarettes I would assume and do anything else you would just be chain

[01:03:11]   smoking from the moment you get up until the moment you fall asleep scrolling back up in chat cuz YouTube did the thing for no reason Danel the terrible says did you get the sinore V2 up thoughts no no I

[01:03:28]   I was that build I I started on that build right before the election and then the world lost its mind and then the the thing with wilder knocked me out for a couple of weeks so it's just

[01:03:47]   been sitting I will I I'm just now getting to a place where I can kind of function on Earth again and a bunch of stuff has kind of piled up but I will work my way through it and

[01:04:03]   I will get back to that for sure but it's just been in a holding pattern along with a lot of other things unfortunately but life comes first Sometimes this is my job and

[01:04:15]   and your work is very important to you but in my opinion your work should never be the most important thing in your life there there should always be things that

[01:04:26]    you are ready and willing to put before your job and before your work I think that's a really important thing that in this country we seem to have completely forgotten about you

[01:04:39]   know at the very least your your family should come before your work it's so easy to just be like but I need to make money for my family look like if you have a

[01:04:51]   kid and when that kid is 25 years ago 25 years old they're not going to remember how much money you made they're they're not going to remember that you were able this Tuesday to take him out

[01:05:03]   to a f a slightly fancier Restaurant They're going to remember whether or not you spent time with them right and so that that's one of my least favorite things about capitalism is that

[01:05:17]   it makes us it really convinces us that work is everything and family can go to hell because I'm so busy working right like that's so backwards and I and I think that that is a real epidemic

[01:05:30]   in in this country that it ruins people it's ruins children it ruins relationships like you you can't be you can't be in a super healthy relationship where people are putting

[01:05:48]   work before the other person it's just doesn't it just typically doesn't work if it does work typically there's going to be a good amount of frustration there from

[01:06:02]   one or both parties so I don't know J monk says I have an 03 air unit is there unupgraded antenna that can be used on the unit to increase video range I use DJI goggles 2

[01:06:17]    goggles 2 have linear antennas I believe and so I think it's not necessarily worth it to upgrade the antenna unless you're going to also upgrade the goggles 2

[01:06:37]   antennas to be circular polarized then yes you want to go to a circular polarized antenna on the quad and there's nothing specific I mean it's just 5.8 well doesn't the 03 air unit

[01:06:49]   use dual band does it use dual band in the way that the vistas used it where it would use two .4 for the transmitter link and 5.8 for video I seem to remember I don't know if I don't

[01:07:03]   remember if it's 03 or 04 that is using fullblown dual band for video where it switches back and forth between 2.4 and 5.8 on the video side I'm 99% sure that the 04 system does

[01:07:20]   that and that the Avada does that I don't remember if the 03 setup does probably because I don't have anything with 03 yet cuz it's been so expensive that I was like I'm going to wait for

[01:07:33]   the next Generation I think hopefully somebody in chat is backing me up right now with whether or not the 03 is dual band on the video side or just 5.8 if it's just 5.8 on the video side then

[01:07:47]   absolutely you can get a circular polarized antenna and that'll give you a little bit better performance that that moving to a CP antenna circular polarized if I remember correctly

[01:08:03]   it's been a long time since I I remember looking this up but I believe that going to a CP antenna on the quad even if you're linear on the goggles will give you a slight performance

[01:08:17]   Improvement going to a CP on your goggles and a CP on the quad gives you a significant Improvement so there you go good question J monk danzil the terrible says I've done

[01:08:36]   10 plus hours a day of Photoshop this week the grind is real I don't miss that man I I I I I I I drove that into the goddamn ground 1B says a good live stream idea would be that new beta

[01:08:50]   FPV Matrix flight controller versus the 2g4 like a battle of the Bashers aios y yep that's pretty much exactly what I'm what I'm looking at doing in The NeverEnding quest for the

[01:09:02]   Ultimate Freestyle tiny whoop The Matrix flight controller the the the mobul 6 2024 flight controller version two with the plugs on it's okay I don't love that I ripped the UFL off of mine

[01:09:23]    that makes me super worried about it so much so that I haven't bought another one of those aios the air 65 AIO and now the plug version of it is called The Matrix flight controller

[01:09:40]   it has the same problem with the you that I don't know if the Matrix has the same problem I bet you it does but the air 65 flight controller has that same problem with the UFL

[01:09:51]    I assume that the Matrix flight controller is just that same thing but with motor plugs but maybe it's not maybe they've addressed that issue with the UFL we'll find out the 2g4

[01:10:09]   though it's not that much heavier and good God is it durable so I don't know we'll see we'll see I I I I would like to get my hands on one of those Matrix flight controllers though because

[01:10:21]   if it's lighter and if it's durable and if the UFL doesn't rip off off of it then that's the one we can stop buying 2 G4S and we can build a little bit lighter so that's

[01:10:33]    that's the deal Morton upshot what's up brother he says who is this Joshua person you speak of I knew of someone who used to stream by that name my wife says he sounds like big Ed from some

[01:10:44]   reality show I don't know Big Ed it's I I am super happy that Joshua is streaming again on Sundays but I think it is is Sunday the only day that he's streaming right now I think it

[01:11:01]   is I somebody was just asking me the other day if I knew anything about the news Joshua and Blunt's news why they haven't done it in so long and then ever I I've moved my Monday night

[01:11:18]   streams to 10 o' because a couple weeks ago Joshua streamed 8 to 10 and I was like oh cool he's back but then and I think last week and this week he didn't stream Monday nights again so I don't

[01:11:32]   know hey has another gig that is really cool that that earlier this year and through the middle of the year that's what was pulling him away that's why there were the big gaps in his streams but I

[01:11:50]   know gig is like weeks at a time like multiple weeks at a time I've seen him do the a couple of the Sunday streams in a row here so I don't think unless that gig has short has some

[01:12:02]   more shortened up things going on I'm not sure what's going on there he's been super busy I I we haven't really spoke in a couple of months we used to speak quite a bit but we

[01:12:17]   just kind of keep missing each other so I I I I don't know anything I don't know anything but I miss I I miss watching Joshua before my streams on every Sunday and Monday that I had a

[01:12:31]   there was a long time a long time that I was able to do that and that was really really cool and I missed that I I I love Joshua's live streams to death I love the the folks that hang out in the

[01:12:43]   chat I love it's blunty it's just it's amazing and we got a lot of it we got years of that and we should be super happy about that and focus on how

[01:13:02]   nice that that was and maybe it'll come back someday maybe it won't but we're we're super lucky that we got so much of that lebster says have you seen the get

[01:13:13]   RC 102 25,000 KV I have the pre the last two maybe three live streams we've talked about it we've talked about them the TL Dr is 1S is not the right voltage for the power that we want from a 75mm

[01:13:34]   outdoor rig so those 102 25000 might be a little bit better than the current 22,000 but they're probably not going to be good enough and 2S is the way for 75 mil rigs so I'll when

[01:13:51]   they're available I will probably get a set to test but I'm absolutely not holding my breath and I'm actually kind of looking to sell my 1S 450s because I I just I don't think

[01:14:06]   that there's look 2S is just too good the the the 2S 75mm rigs are outrageous and more power and more runtime how do you how do you not do that right how do you how do you not go for

[01:14:30]   that lster says speed X2 is that the name of the 102 25,000 I think it is off axis says sorry about that in secret santa sorry about what in secret Santa by the way off axis how do I

[01:14:50]   get my how do I get my person's address for secret santa I got the the automated message and I I replied I like kind of jokingly replied back to the message Santa how do I get my

[01:15:03]   person's address I know my person's name I don't know how to get their address though Bob noxus is in the chat what's up homie if you guys don't follow Bob noxious you're only hurting

[01:15:17]   yourself he is he is an inspirational dude man I I I have a special place in my heart for people that get stomped out in life and bounce back hard and say what no no

[01:15:40]   life ain't G to get me down I'm gonna I'm gonna kick life's ass and it's been really cool over the last this year to watch Bob noxious just do all of these awesome things

[01:15:55]   to get his mind and body right and just come out swing and kick life in the balls in response to life kicking you in the balls I kind of went through that three

[01:16:10]   four years ago and it's hard as hell and it's and it's really easy to just say like [@$#%] this and so it's super cool to see people just not let life get them down and

[01:16:26]   and to fight back and to take a shitty situation and improve your life on the other side of it right and to like bounce like like I I feel like so our lives do this

[01:16:41]   in some way right like our lives do this but like our lives kind of do this and when something really nasty happens it's like one of these and that can that can like really lead you

[01:16:52]   down a long downhill and or like flatten out and I just give up to see somebody have that big kick in the balls and then be like [@$#%] you and do this that's the inspirational [@$#%]

[01:17:07]    and so super cool to see somebody in our community doing that that's rad Curtis Hayes says 03 uses 2.4 for binding to the controller and 5.8 is video per mad Tech

[01:17:21]   okay I thought so cool so going to a circular Pole ized on your 03 VTX on the quad will give you slightly better performance to get even more of a performance jump though you're going to change the

[01:17:39]   an the the whip antennas on the goggles to CP and that combination of circular polarized on the quads circular polarized on the goggles that's the move and I

[01:17:51]   believe there are there is a way sort of plug and playay to do that do not quote me on that because I don't have 03 goggles but I'm pretty sure that there is a way to do that or I don't have 03

[01:18:06]   or O2 goggles goggles 2 rather not O2 chonan says yes 03 is 2.4 for radio 5.8 for video all right good co power says pretty sure mismatching linear and CP incurs A 3db Drop no benefit I

[01:18:24]   seem to that could be true I seem to remember a slight benefit having CP on the quad I think of it this way a I don't have any tiny whoops with linear left all right Pretend This

[01:18:45]   is a linear when you have a linear antenna on the quad and you're out flipping and flopping eventually you're going to point the null of that of that linear antenna

[01:18:58]   directly at yourself and that's going to be the worst possible performance there whereas if you have a circular polarized antenna on the quad it doesn't really care what direction it's in

[01:19:14]   this is a situation where like in in testing right like if you were to test goggles and an antenna you're going to in your testing you're going to point the linear antenna straight up and then

[01:19:27]   you're going to point your goggle antennas straight up so you're going to have a best case scenario between the goggles and the between the linear antennas in the real world we

[01:19:35]   don't do that right we're we're flipping and flopping all over the damn place so that's how I sort of think about it you're you're on your goggles you're you're not really doing

[01:19:47]   much of this with your goggles right with the linear antenna on the goggles you're pointing them straight up so either the performance benefit from having that more 360 Dee in all

[01:20:03]   different directions antenna on the quad might offset the fact that you're mismatching a circular polarized with linear I I that might be the situation it's been so long since I

[01:20:15]   figured this since I I read up on it but the the long and short of it is in my opinion if you can ever get a CP antenna on the quad which does this you really want to do that the the caveat

[01:20:30]   here is you don't want to have a CP antenna right on top of the flight controller as we found out with these tiny whoops if you're going to run a CP antenna you got to get it away from

[01:20:40]   carbon fiber and you got to get it away from ground planes big thick sheets of copper and in order to do that in order to put a CP antenna on a tiny whoop and get it up here where this ort

[01:20:53]   micro is those those antennas are heavy they're like 1.2 G and that's too much for a tiny whoop so the the micro is the best sort of Both Worlds you get it's like a it the micro is just like a

[01:21:07]   really good linear like the best possible linear antenna and it's really really lightweight so it's that it's that balancing of all the different things skic says what happened to the 2s

[01:21:25]   Vision 40 do they not sell it anymore do they only sell it as 1S NOP for the record we didn't really talk much about this but there are some recent news about

[01:21:47]   unusual machines that really has me not wanting to support R to Riot much anymore if I'm completely honest that's all I'll say about that cuz I don't really want to dive into it

[01:22:03]   but I I I I don't know I don't know if I'm going to go to Rampage in 2025 we'll see wow look there's no 2S version anymore what the hell I have no idea I have absolutely no

[01:22:23]   idea demo FPV says analog 2 s75 build what's in your build I've got two of them at the moment for testing one of them is an X12 and one of them is actually that hglrc

[01:22:43]   Spectre AIO that didn't work at all two of them in a row on One S but on 2S it works just fine so that hglrc Spectre AIO even though it say 1S to 2S no it's 2S only and so uh the

[01:23:01]   the I actually need to fly these a little bit more because I I I think I've figured out which Motors I like but one of them is on t-motor 102s the other at the moment is on

[01:23:14]    sub 250 803s I like the 102s better I really like the RC and Power 102s but these things are awesome even like the O the 0803 sub 250 Motors are my least favorite but they still outperform any

[01:23:35]   1s 75mm setup we had by a huge margin so 2S is really the way to go with 75 mil outdoor tiny whoops it's just outrageous Bob noxious says thank you you're certainly welcome brother brother

[01:23:54]   thank you for fighting it fighting and just doing the hard thing it's [@$#%] hard life is is life is rough sometimes it is really hard to wake up every single day and and

[01:24:09]   just fight through it off axis says most of them have posted their address in that group channel for secret sent address if not message me all right cool ctis Hayes says DJI is typically

[01:24:20]   leftand circular circular polarized true RC cells plugin setup for 2 and gv2 I forgot to mention that uh for whatever reason all of the digital systems are left-hand circular polarized

[01:24:35]   this is really important it's less important if you're going to mix circular polarized with linear antennas because it's actually completely doesn't matter but on digital

[01:24:47]   systems I was about to say on digital systems you should go left-hand circular polarized but that's not true at all if you have not invested in left-handed left-hand circular polarized antennas

[01:25:00]   yet don't because you can always find an antenna that's right-hand circular polarized so but that being said digital FPV systems all if they come with antennas that are polarized they

[01:25:21]   are all left-hand circular polarized which is super annoying if you are if you got them without antennas and you're going to buy aftermarket antennas for them don't do it there's no there's

[01:25:35]   the only reason would be that maybe someday you buy something digital and it comes with a left-hand antenna that you can't use but like I wish to hell that I had never

[01:25:49]    I had never bought anything digital with with an antenna I wish I had always bought them without antennas and just stuck with right hand on everything because then I would have 50%

[01:26:02]   less antennas because I could just keep one extra right-hand circular polarized antenna in in my toolbox rather than one extra right hand and one extra left hand so but digital systems come

[01:26:18]   with left hand circular polarized Curtis Hayes rightly pointing out though hd0 does not hd0 uh what do the kids say hd0 paid attention to the assignment and they stayed with right hand circular

[01:26:33]   polarized which is awesome but every other digital system WalkSnail old school DJI new school DJI they all use left hand which is just silly C hay I You could argue that it

[01:26:48]   helps if you go to fly with other people and there's somebody on analog you being on left hand it's going to make you [@$#%] on right hand a little bit less but digital shits on analog so hard that

[01:26:59]   it's really not going to matter it's not going to make a difference Curtis ay says that tiny whoop antenna is linear CP antennas will look like a lollipop because they are circular to make the

[01:27:13]   polariz polarization circular correct although not all antennas that look like circular polarized antennas are circular polarized antennas I'm looking at you emac emac has an antenna that absolutely

[01:27:29]   you would look at and be like that's a CP antenna but then when you break that thing open it is anything but a CP antenna so you can't always go by what the what the antennas look like

[01:27:42]    you have to read the description and see if it says that it is a CP or circular polarized antenna without getting too deep into it a circular polarized antenna has a bunch of 45°

[01:27:57]   angle little miniature antennas sort of in a circle in the in the head of the antenna and it polarizes the signal which helps when it bounces off of stuff and it helps a lot with multi

[01:28:16]   pathing a linear antenna does not multipath very well at all CP antenna in in so in like Bandos or just anywhere we we get bounces from these antennas wherever we fly other than

[01:28:33]   long range alth no long range will still bounce yeah it makes a big difference with the with the multi pathing Co Powers also says I guess throwing a CP antenna on it is cheap and

[01:28:50]   an easy way of avoiding the linear null it's like having multiple linear antenas yep that's a good way of thinking about it yep it's like having a linear antenna vertical and then having

[01:28:58]   another one horizontal so that when you point one null at yourself this antenna here is nice and strong if you point this null at yourself this antenna here is nice and strong and that's

[01:29:10]   kind of what they're doing with the it the the having the little miniature 45 degree angle mini antennas that's not really what's happening but that's kind of what's happening there you

[01:29:24]   you've always got a direct shot in theory they still do have a little bit of a null top and a bottom but nowhere near as bad as the null that you get from a

[01:29:34]   linear tonian says HD we got that yep chonan and Curtis Hayes Ry bre says I see that little whoop stand there did you set up that 3D printer thanks for the streams I didn't know somebody sent this

[01:29:49]   to me I don't even know where this is this is a total surprise I I'm sure that this is on thing ofers somewhere but yeah this is this is a super cool little little thing NOP I put it on

[01:30:03]   there backwards it's a very cool little stand and it's h it's modular the top of the stand comes off and they have a big wide version for 75mm rigs very cool stuff ail says what 4 in1 AO would

[01:30:23]   you recommend for a 75mm HD build with the hd0 Eco camera and VTX I think I'm still I think I'm still digging the the BetaFPV 12 amp which has no USB port on the

[01:30:48]   bottom it allows you to run it in a in frames that really pull the battery up high so BetaFPV 12 amp F4 version 3 is I think my current favorite if you ever go to 2S that thing is

[01:31:04]   going to be awesome it's just it's the one at the moment Ry bre says I printed the same ones cool way to display them indeed all right cool I'm caught up on chat it only took an

[01:31:13]   hour and 40 minutes what did we say we were going to do I'm going to fly this on the tri blades and then swap it to the by blades and talk a little bit more about the HQ ultr Light low pitch Tri

[01:31:23]   tries versus the GemFan 1210 buys and then we're going to spin a couple of these motors up and take a look at the RPM that we get back in BetaFlight so let's do two batteries on this

[01:31:38]   with the tries and then we'll swap it over we'll do another two batteries and then we'll fart around with with RPM and then we'll wrap it on up Teddy you want to be on the stream what

[01:31:49]   are you doing what are you doing what are you chewing on down there small dog answer me come here buddy there he is there's the bad boy have you guys ever seen a bad dog

[01:32:31]   don't don't chew on me don't don't lick me either I wonder why it isn't like when I pick them up and put him on the live stream a all right you can go buddy good

[01:33:01]   dog oh you have such a fat body his his head being so much smaller really makes his body look so fat here hold on oh God what was that doggo let's rough this dog up a little

[01:33:20]   bit together ready let's let's let's mess with let's play a game it's called beat the dog come here dog come come and get beaten oh God get back

[01:33:36]   here oh God he's running laps guys he's running laps here he comes no no don't eat that come here come on come on let the people see me beat you come on get come get your

[01:33:50]   beatings come get beatings come on it's time for daily beatings come here I don't have one of his toys that's what he won't this is look it's a toy look that's a terrible

[01:34:04]   idea he's going to eat those propellers oh well we tried oh God can't say I didn't try you guys probably can't hear me from down there anyway all right here we go battery into

[01:34:23]   the air6 5 champion and we are going to rail these new HQ ultral light propellers that's what the doggy wants he wants quads to destroy and sniff he doesn't destroy them he just

[01:34:44]   sniffs them all right here we go here we go what is happening at the top of the screen what's the deal there is this thing always go away when I arm it no what is

[01:35:04]   that about let's see if it's doing it in the goggles too in the goggles the top of the screen looks normal so that's the 5917 do I have this vrx set to the wrong Channel Maybe it needs to be

[01:35:25]   5917 let's see 5917 now that's weird I don't know why it's doing that no now it's fine okay weird weird oh he's pissed off tonight whoa he hit's wow he's never hit it

[01:35:52]   before that's a new one little boy that little mouth all right HQ Tri blades enough screwing around oh I'm feeling saucy as [@$#%] tonight oh

[01:36:22]   god oh all right it's going to be a crashy kind of night but isn't that every night Ciotti yes but in the process of crashing a lot we're going to do some sick

[01:36:40]   [@$#%] woo oo woo a so close oh God no I'm in the table whoa that was actually crash recovery getting a little bit confused oh oh my God rejected twice in a row it's like back in college here we

[01:37:09]   go man I'm not having any luck getting through that gate W Teddy nope again no come onwhat's happening happening no what is going on I can't get it I give up I'll do

[01:37:31]   something else Jesus oh okay the Ciotti loops are not happening for me tonight the Pentagon gate somebody somebody left a comment they're like dummy it's Pentagon not

[01:37:44]   octagon or septagon or whatever the hell I was saying last time probably should not say p on on YouTube all right HQ ultralight Tri blades 2 minutes and 15 seconds this

[01:38:07]   this rig be eaten some batteries lster says that's also on the air 752 the screen tearing interesting it's fine in my goggles but these are fancy goggles I mean they're normal goggles

[01:38:25]   it's a fancy receiver module that was a gold markered battery let's try this red markered battery I think this is a little bit newer a little bit fresher it is this is a wee bed battery now this

[01:38:36]   has only been cycled like once or twice so this is like basically a brand new battery let's see what kind of runtime we get here here we go oh God what

[01:38:53]    there it is wo my God this is a BNF guys this is a BNF with a propeller swap although the propellers it comes with are completely

[01:39:09]   fine actually the propellers it comes with make even more thrust there we go anybody watch recursion Labs every single time I say the word thrust I want to say thrust there's a YouTuber

[01:39:24]   recursion Labs he hasn't made anything in a while but he's done a bunch of U micromotor bench testing and he says thrust in a funny way he does it on

[01:39:39]   purpose wo my God man this thing is so good hey it just it has that little bit of extra power that we've been putting into the uh Ultimate Freestyle tiny whoops for a while now but this is like the

[01:39:58]   first BNF that's been like this overpowered and th this level of overpowered is so much fun the Pentagon to GemFan Cube Loop oh Teddy I'm sorry buddy I

[01:40:15]   didn't think you'd be there oh he doesn't care he doesn't give a rat's fat ass look at him look at him go for it buddy go for it give it a good bite give it a

[01:40:32]   bite get you some doggy oh God you teach that quad who's boss oh God don't hit the power switch again I got to put a little a little cover over the power switch back

[01:40:48]   here although I think the only reason I think the only reason that the hingi rig was able to hit the power switch hard enough to actually flip it is that it's just kind of heavy I don't think

[01:41:02]   like a regular tiny whoop would hit that power switch hard enough whoa Teddy Teddy [Laughter] wooo he's blowing a hot he's blowing a hot breath on this the camera

[01:41:33]    lens all right oh wow it ate this battery in just just as little time ah where was that that was a interesting crash whoa oh that's the the invisible gray double helix thing who

[01:41:54]   hey buddy oh God hey whoa hey oh god oh I went in between them I wish that was on purpose I wish I was that good 2 minutes and 30 seconds I ran the battery down pretty

[01:42:16]   low it's bouncing back up to 36 nope it's done I was about to say it's going to bounce up to 365 nope although wait no it did it I just saw 364 so this battery will bounce

[01:42:28]   up okay I didn't run it that far down all right so those are the tri blades we're going to move this over to the by blades and see what's what man this thing flies good

[01:42:42]   oh I I I it is a crime that they're not making more of these I hope they do I really do the regular air 65 is totally fine don't get me wrong but this is the one if you and if you don't want this much

[01:43:01]   power you just motor limit's down and all is right with the world the regular air 65 like you're not going to motor limit's down you're you're going to leave it exactly where it is which is

[01:43:13]   100% and it kind of is what it is this just has that extra little bit of ass that you you really want hey get [@$#%] is this props in or props out I forgot to look let's throw a

[01:43:32]   battery on it and arm it real quick oh man I'm kind of feeling it tonight I'm flying decent all right let's see come on armed props in fantastic all right so snower no schening Danel the

[01:43:52]   turble say say you could 3D print a cover of that power switch I know that's exactly what I was thinking this guy is motor 4 and then we've got props in motor

[01:44:09]   one Curtis Hayes says the Champion Edition isn't sold anymore limited edition sold out is it just swapping out the motors pretty much the the the Champion Edition is just higher

[01:44:21]   KV Motors it's the motors that they should be putting on all of the air 65s and then just if you don't want to have a mass production rig with motors that are this powerful just motor

[01:44:33]   limit them down the people that don't know anything won't know to turn the motor limiting up and then you're good to go I don't understand this this thing with

[01:44:44]   like we don't want people to have powerful bind and FL I mean I guess I do but I don't know man motor limiting come on most people will never realize it's there and they'll just go about their

[01:44:59]   lives and then those of us that are Ultra nerds we know it's there and then we don't have to buy another set of Motors and guess what you're going to sell a lot more binding flies

[01:45:10]   that way what I'm saying buy blades are on let's take there's already a battery in it I can tell the difference should be able to I hope I can

[01:45:24]   let's see if the runtime changes the the runtime was very similar between those two batteries that I flew I'm going to try to be as insane what look at that little face oh

[01:45:36]   my God I'm going to destroy it so that nobody else can enjoy it who this feels way different hold on something's going on look at all that that wow oh it's a it's a pit Loop

[01:46:06]   thing hold on hold on something's happened something has happened let me spin each motor up individually in Turtle mode and see if I can figure out what's going on here NOP that seems okay these are not

[01:46:31]   fresh props spin them up slowly okay so motor number two is vibrating pretty good as is motor number four let me throw two fresh propellers on here on motor 2 and motor 4 just to make sure

[01:47:02]   that these aren't banged up and out of balance hang on one second that's that prop bag there and then if that doesn't help I'm going to back the tune off a little bit because at the moment this

[01:47:21]   thing is upset and that is going to so this battery is is out the window the the pit Loop was overactive there and it was trying to speed up Slow Down Speed Up Slow Down

[01:47:34]   Speed Up slow down the motor 4,000 times a second and that just that eats the battery there there's no better way to discharge a battery as quickly as possible so let's see here

[01:47:49]   we're going to grab two right side High 12 10 by blades and swap them on and see if that makes things any better right side high and right side High it could just be that the HQ

[01:48:05]   props are better balanced that could totally be the case all right fresh 1210s on Motors 2 and three let's see if that changes anything all right here we

[01:48:31]   go not disarmed okay back up little boy back up back up whoa Teddy wow no what the hell all right hold on oh it feels horrible right now because the pit Loop is is heating the

[01:48:56]   motors all up let's let's back the tune off a little bit oh this has that this is running this pre-baked in tune for the 1219 s's interesting oh man it's not even an aggressive tune what the

[01:49:18]   hell hold on let's try that and just see no something's going on here oh my god it feels awful let me just run the rest of this battery what is

[01:49:43]   happening at this point I kind of have to put the other props back on it oh it is un [@$#%] happy oh God and man now it's a little bit better right now but the batter's all sagged

[01:50:31]   down oh God still ran for a minute and 40 with the with the pids freaking out wow super weird what is is going on with you little buddy what happened when I switched

[01:50:57]   those propellers out um huh Teddy slobber had to burn off I mean you never know okay hold on let me just let me just just take a little look around here see if I can figure anything

[01:51:29]   out put that battery back in it let me let me SP I didn't spin it up with these with these props on it let's let me spin it back up with these two fresh props and this will tell

[01:51:45]   me if the motors are out of balance or if the or if the props helped motor one it's not vibrating at all but there's this like weird high pitched sound it almost seems like one of the

[01:52:00]   bearings might have blown up or something I'll know when I put the the other propellers back on listen listen listen to this listen to like

[01:52:17]   the you hear that doesn't sound right oh no the motor shafts are bent so the props were fine the motor shafts are bent I might have bent one of these motor shafts when

[01:52:34]   I was pulling those props off the fresh propellers did not help at all I have crashed this thing pretty good interesting okay at this point the intelligent thing to do is switch back

[01:53:02]   to the HQ props and for a change I'll do the intelligent thing all right I'm going to be super careful taking these props off and did anybody happen to the the RPM difference between these two although I

[01:53:26]   can tell you for absolute certain that this rig is making way more power on the HQ props but that's because the these vibr that's because the pit Loop is freaking out with these 1210 by blades

[01:53:42]   on it and when the pit Loop freaks out the motors get hot and make significantly less power come on get in there all right super carefully remove those props now we're

[01:53:58]   going to put these HQ ultr light tries back on and we'll see what's going on here let me make sure that these are the the 0.9 pitch they are indeed 1.2 by 0.9 by 3 okay

[01:54:19]   so oh this is going to be interesting I would think that I would have noticed this when I previously moved these from the 1210s to this propeller I'm super weirded out that I didn't that's what

[01:54:36]   makes me think that I might have bent one of these motor shafts when I was pulling those props off or on one of those crashes in those first two batteries we

[01:54:45]   flew okay back on exactly as it was a minute ago I'm going to take this extra battery that I have here and we're going to see what's going on here we

[01:55:08]   go Teddy came a running he heard the beeps and came on running there he is oops wow no way it's fine the GemFan 1210s are just not as well balanced I did not expect

[01:55:35]    that wow I mean I will say this propellers propellers are the one thing in FPV that legitimately gets significantly better as time goes on and this is a brand new propeller the gem fans have been

[01:56:00]   around for a long time and so it's not that surprising that these are better balanced if GemFan made a new version of the 1210 in theory it would be this well balanced wow dude this

[01:56:22]   like I mean you guys saw it you guys could see the the oscillations when I was when I was moving the throttle up and down on the 1210s what I'm going to do next is I'm going to go to a completely

[01:56:39]   fresh set absolutely brand new set of 1210 and we'll see if that makes a difference what is happening right now where am I stuck oh God he tried to get me who's getting who Teddy I'm getting you

[01:56:58]   this time oh man this battery got eaten in a minute and a half oh nope nope nope nope Noe nope oh God little dog we almost got to two minutes 51 wow wow wow what the hell

[01:57:25]   okay um um lster thank you for looking that up when you say 126s I think you mean the bblades right they're 1210 non s 55,000 versus 56,000 but boy the the bblades were just

[01:57:58]   a mess and they felt awful the the bblades felt terrible in comparison okay we're going to go to a completely fresh set of 1210 bblades I I will not be heartbroken if the if the

[01:58:19]   GemFan bblades are not like the hot prop on this setup I I don't they we've had them for a long time they've been the best prop for a long time it can't last

[01:58:34]   forever has HQ hasn't H didn't HQ make a byblade didn't don't I didn't I test here they are there's even an oh [@$#%] I forgot about these we we tested them and they felt all awesome we got to

[01:58:53]   put these on more we got to put these on more stuff I have this on the the HD zero rig okay we're going to do we might do a proper propeller Smackdown stream okay totally brand new set let me

[01:59:11]   remove these