[00:02:23]   hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti that was the smoothest I've ever ended that song everybody called me Ciotti welcome to fresh gear Friday today we're going to be checking out the emac

[00:02:36]   Avia 1.2 in 30 mm Tri blades to see if they're any good we will see how the inner diameter is see if you have to drill them out or if you're going to ruin your Motors by putting them on

[00:02:51]   we'll take a look at what they weigh and then we'll fly the hell out of them I'm sure that they'll be I'm not sure but I have a feeling they'll be durable that they feel like a durable kind of

[00:03:01]   propel they actually feel really durable we'll see what the flight characteristics are like what the runtime is like all that good stuff we're primarily going to be flying them

[00:03:12]   on the RC and power 0702 29,000 KV Motors the the most powerful set of 0702 Motors in the world does that come through loud enough that you guys can hear it's playing

[00:03:31]   out of speakers here and then it's got to it's got to the sound has to turn it has to turn has to turn around and then go into the microphone sound doesn't turn sound

[00:03:41]   bounces it's probably bouncing off me it's probably bouncing off my big face uh in the process we're going to fly these motors a bunch more to continue learning about them and we

[00:03:59]   might I I'll probably put one battery through the 40,000 KV HappyModel Motors first and then we'll start flying this a bunch I remembered that I have another I did a

[00:04:13]   tiny whoop order so I have a clone popper on the way which I'm super excited for that's my favorite of the prop poppers but on Wednesday's stream I realize that the Weeble prop

[00:04:25]   popper the The Little Forks on the bottom here they're a little bit far farther apart and with these new HQ ultralight by blades they actually they won't grab it they will not they're

[00:04:40]   too far apart for how slim and skinny The Hub is on this particular propeller and I was like well great so these props are stuck on here until the tiny Ward gets here but then I remembered

[00:04:53]   that I have one of the old school like absolute first gen I swear I was like the first person to order one of these tiny whoop prop poppers and the Jaws on the the fork rather is a lot closer

[00:05:04]   together on this guy so this should easily get these propellers off which is exciting I forgot that I had this because I put it in this excellent little thing which was designed and

[00:05:19]   printed by custom FPV tiny whoop sells it look at this thing look how slick this is spot for your clockwise counterclockwise and the old school prop popper right in the middle I have rabies and I can't do it

[00:05:39]   but I swear it fits in there oh you got to put it in the that's fantastic you got to put it in the one way it doesn't go in both ways insert dick joke here so this

[00:05:55]   this little thing this is I keep this in the in my little flighty bag I got an extra set of Motors in here a set of screws in here and a bunch of extra propellers very very cool little tiny Jib Jab that

[00:06:11]   you can fit like anywhere and when the top is on everything is segmented so every time you open it up there's not a huge mess in there really really really cool little glip glop I need to get the

[00:06:29]   the propep popper out of it and a great reason to get one of the OG prop poppers because it's the only one that fits in here so yeah highly recommendedwhere can I put this that I won't

[00:06:44]   forget about it right there that's a good spot for it so that's the plan for tonight of course this is the we're going to do a bunch of Q&A drop any questions that you've got into the

[00:06:53]   into the chat and we'll talk about them that was a battery that I flew with the WalkSnail 65 millimet freestyle rig this guy at Alpine slot cars in Helen Georgia I went up to visit my

[00:07:12]   dad last night and I just happened to have three batteries to what I thought was three batteries it turned out to be two batteries that were charged from the Wednesday night stream that I didn't

[00:07:21]   run down and so I just threw it in a bag I will say this here's my ah I kicked the chair here's my my plug for my Etsy channel is it on Etsy no Teespring these tote bags are on

[00:07:39]   Teespring and boy are they perfect for if you've got like a some kind of a transmitter bag you could just throw your transmitter straight in there but if you've got like a cool little

[00:07:50]   transmitter bag put your transmitter in there this tote bag fits the transmitter one of the cool little custom FPV whoop Hol ERS on the side and then set of goggles on the other side

[00:08:07]   and you've got this like super nobody knows what it is simple little thing that you can bring with you anywhere and it's got enough stuff to fly from and there's there's some extra room but it's

[00:08:21]   it's just it's nice man it doesn't take up any space it drops right behind the the the passenger seat of your car perfect perfect perfect little setup this this transmitter bag actually

[00:08:33]   now just lives in here this is where it's is going to be throw an extra uh lanyard in here do yourself a favor and grab get an extra lanyard and put it in here because

[00:08:47]   you're going to forget you're going to forget to grab your main lanyard so super super super cool just the right amount of space nobody's ever going to think you got

[00:08:57]   drones in there which might become really important with what's going on up in New Jersey Jesus Christ it's really starting to feel like I don't

[00:09:10]   know they might come down on on drones pretty hard so good time to be into tiny whooping that's for sure because they can't tell us what to do inside of our own houses and even

[00:09:21]   like flying tiny whoops outside nobody's going to hear it nobody's going to Care like if the cops come if if they come down hard on and you're out flying a tiny whoop

[00:09:32]   and a cop shows up they're not going to care right it's [@$#%] tiny whoop this is a weapon no it's not this is a [@$#%] what I mean so um super disappointing what

[00:09:51]   whatever the hell is going on up in New Jersey maybe although I I have hope that it's aliens and that they'll just they'll just be like well we gave you guys a chance you [@$#%] it all

[00:10:04]   up death ray G what if a death ray sounded g g g g what if a death ray used bullets made of lead this is what we do we shoot lead at each other in 2024 what is

[00:10:23]   happening this can't be real life in the chat if you want to oh my God Paulie shortcuts is is egg planting it up in the chat Spaceman spith was first Northern Tier FPV was next Frank

[00:10:35]   Nicholas Cole Powers Brian teger Douglas 6 every day with Bruno paully shortcuts coal Powers Uriel chonan crom Andrew Taylor brand Anderson Willie Summit poly shortcuts again skull 901 Dave Gunner

[00:10:51]    Chaser FPV Christopher black ledge what's up everybody thanks for coming sit back relax and don't ask any dumb I don't know ask all the questions you've got there are no

[00:11:04]   dumb questions there are dumb questions you you feel free to ask them I'll let if it's a dumb question don't you don't you worry n there's no dumb questions

[00:11:14]   just dumb people a [@$#%] lot of them a lot of them oh my God so many so many Cole Powers tagged me if you want to talk to me in the chat all you got to do is type CiottiFPV if you want to talk to

[00:11:27]   somebody else in the chat and you want to get their attention type their name if you type uriel's name u r i e l in your chat comment for him his name will light up an orange so you can do that

[00:11:37]   with each other just when you meet somebody you don't just like start yelling at them you sayJohn and then you yell at them Cole power says my sixpack joke was about beer I

[00:11:50]   can't imagine I can't imagine anyone smoking six packs a day got it that makes sense that would be a bit much Paulie shortcut says I think that was what on Wednesday stream poly shortcut

[00:12:01]   says I just ordered that angry da insta canopy but brain 3D said it may be too complex to print well I think they're the ones that printed it for me so I think you'll be

[00:12:14]   okay yeah it's is so clean the print is so clean that I'm pretty sure that they're that they printed it for me so but don't if they say they can't don't be mean I guess do whatever you

[00:12:29]   want Uriel says I suggest police shall I learn it to you um yes jonian says they're too large to be typical drones they look like there's flying cars you can buy if you're

[00:12:44]   super rich I haven't really paid much attention to it I I've just seen it consistently come up over and over and over again originally I thought it maybe had something to do with the

[00:12:57]   the Amazon delivery stuff it would make a lot of sense if like you're Amazon and you want to have total control of the airspace to hire some people to like gorilla fly a bunch

[00:13:11]   of drones and show that you can't control them and then it's like no nobody's allowed to do this other than people that donate lots of money to us right I don't know that was my

[00:13:26]   tinf foil hat cat take on it who gets that reference if you get that reference here's another clue oh sorry headphone people well you're all dead now anyway

[00:13:51]    if you would like a piece of FPV History boy have I got you covered if you like these live streams and you want a piece of History a piece of CiottiFPV Slash just FPV

[00:14:16]   history I got six SC screaming goatsat some point I'll put them up on the Etsy store but since you should be rewarded for watching the live stream you guys get first crack at him C

[00:14:32]   fv.com has all my contact info Instagram is the best Discord is the second best Facebook sucks balls but I'll still eventually get your message yeah if you want your own screaming goat let me

[00:14:42]   know 20 bucks package from Weeble thank you so much zot te Mega supporter of Ciotti element op I can't get the goddamn stickers out bunch of stickers vegan these are all going to be

[00:15:00]   in upcoming giveaways by the way bleed ey oh that's a new one look at that it's cool design Northeast whoop championships build fly crash repair bleed repeat and a backup

[00:15:17]   Band-Aid more importantly though one of his prop poppers which is going to be in an upcoming giveaway and something very very two boxes of very interesting things check this

[00:15:38]   out I'll do the I'll do the same I'll do the same kind of reveal here ready ready here it comes here it comes ready wait wait no no no let's do it this way okay hold on here we go here we go

[00:15:56]    look how much longer the new the new batteries are these are 465 Mah batteries it's looks it's like a real life meme it's like I I'm so I'm so very used to the the the size of like 300 MH

[00:16:27]   batteries that like the 260s are are a little bit shorter but they're they're not much shorter 465 is is a lot longer hold on let me get them all stacked

[00:16:49]   up there you go it's like a s we can make like a signal strength bar out of out of out of batteries look at how big that isif you want to do long range if you want to do

[00:17:07]   long range with with 65 mimer tiny whoops this is the battery to do it with zotech thank you for sending this there wasn't a snowballs chance in hell I was going to buy some of these just

[00:17:20]   because I'm about like lightweight stuff if if you're going to fly a 65 if you want to get like four five minutes run time on a 65 mil tiny whoop there's absolutely no other opt

[00:17:31]   excuse me no other option than these it's now that I have one of these is going to be in giveaways one of these will probably be a Christmas time giveaway that we do on the 12 hours

[00:17:44]   of Christmas stream but I am going to keep either this other box or maybe just one maybe I'll just keep one and then I'll give the other three away I'm just super

[00:17:57]   curious I'm incredibly curious I I don't I don't really know why you would you would do a 65mm rig for long range unless like you've got an indoor long range I don't know I don't know

[00:18:16]   what it's for but somebody is going to love this and I absolutely love that it exists this is this is for someone someone has a perfect use for this maybe somebody in the chat type it if you do

[00:18:27]    and so I'm super curious how long this is going to run this one is charged up so we're going to run it tonight let's weigh it first the the weight is going to be the problem 65mm rigs really love being

[00:18:44]   super lightweight this is this [@$#%] dog man he's been a bad dog tonight 11.63 gram a regular Weeble 300 is eight 8.31 grams that's only three grams more that's not bad huh I would think it

[00:19:06]   would be heavier than that three extra grams so if you've got an ultral light rig that's down in like the 17 G range 18 19 20 is basically what it's going to weigh it's going to perform

[00:19:16]   like it's 20 grams dry right so this is cool I'm actually like excited to mess with this and see what the Run see what it does to the runtime I'm also kind of interested

[00:19:29]   to rail a 655mm rig outside and same kind of deal see how long you can run it for outside if you want the stealthiest possible like if you were going to fly in a mall or something and you

[00:19:45]   wanted to run like the length of malls are usually dead straight and if you wanted to run like the [@$#%] length of the mall there's nothing quieter than a 655mm rig and this is a

[00:19:56]   battery that'll do it so there are there are us for this this is not like an inside your house hard freestyle battery mainly because of that it's gonna it's going to

[00:20:10]   be like a [@$#%] Javelin at the front of your it might even show up in the oh my God you might be able to see it from the camera so you're not going to want to crash with this thing

[00:20:22]   but it'll this is this will be they'll be a perfect use for this what this is for this is for diving a 1,400 ft tall radio tower with a 65mm whoop when I did that

[00:20:37]   with a 300 mAh battery at the at the bottom I was Full Throttle to try to just barely get it over the fence and then it crashed into the dirt if ID had this on there I would have been able

[00:20:47]   to fly it back to the car and I wouldn't have had to jump the little fence to go get the quad so that's what this is for this is for 1,400 plus foot tiny whoop Tower Dives

[00:20:58]   there there it is I have to go get that package and but luckily I I just mentioned the uh, 1400 foot Tower dive and so I'll play that video for you guys I think it was th no it wasn't this

[00:21:15]   year it was last year Rampage speaking of I still need to get that I I never ended up putting that edit up I never like finished the edit I I have like a test version of it

[00:21:30]    but I never finished it do I have music in there I do have music in there yeah I'll play it for you guys with the music what the hell I'll be right back I'll play the whole thing for

[00:21:43]   you it's 3 minutes hold on hold on lots of exclusives tonightlet me give you guys audio it's going to be in here black hole 2 Channel yes and we're going to go here nope that ain't it

[00:22:00]   we're GNA go oh yep yep you a I oh what happened computer the computer got too excited by the insanity of the dive well this wasn't the package when the real package

[00:24:26]   gets here I'll play the rest of that that's just evil seriously you have to wait you have to wait there'll be another the the dog the dog Bell will go crazy again and you guys will get to see the rest of

[00:24:45]   that I'm not usually evil but sometimes you got to be sometimes you got to do the things that the good YouTubers do so in the chat Uriel says they have anti- laser drone

[00:24:58]   now in defense oh boy Dave Gunna says did you ever think of getting someone to cut up those streams it has so much gold for another Channel see FPV Clips somebody cut a bunch of them up

[00:25:14]    oh God I forget who it was and then I was super busy at the time I didn't have a chance to put them up and then the uh he needed space on his PC so he deleted them and I didn't have a

[00:25:28]   chance to pull them down and they all disappeared it was just from one single live stream though it is incredibly timec consuming to do that and I can't I I I I can barely pay myself

[00:25:42]    I certainly can't pay someone else unfortunately so it's just not something that that I have the ability to do maybe someday but for the moment it's the time stamps and or

[00:25:55]   just put the streams on in the background and you'll hear a cool things and then you can rewind it and away we go Willie Summit says melt your props SL iron oh God Uriel says

[00:26:06]   most people outside mental hospital then in there what does that mean thrash FPV says so why does my 2g4 only power on without a camera plugged in it's smoked with a camera plugged in and wouldn't

[00:26:19]   power your camera is blown up and it is a closed circuit I checked all wirings correct between the camera and the board so confused the only possible reason for that is if the

[00:26:29]   camera is either you you might have the positive and negative leads reversed on the camera or the camera is blown up and it's and it's failed as an open circuit but if if you if your a

[00:26:44]   if your flight controller or your aiio or ESC are fine and then you connect something to them and they're not fine and you have not reversed the positive and the negative that thing that you've

[00:26:56]   connected to it is blown up and it's an and it's an open circuit that has happened to me on many occasions over the last eight years the the most recent the not the most recent but the most

[00:27:10]   challenging troubleshoot that I've ever had with that happening was an analog 5-in rig that I had a little tiny microphone on back in the days of getting audio through analog into or

[00:27:22]   goggles and wearing a little earpiece thinking that we're cool thinking that it would make us fly as good as Mr Steel and the microphone failed and it was an open circuit and it was causing all

[00:27:34]   kinds of weird [@$#%] to happen on the flight controller and the I had the microphone tucked away and it was soldered to the underside of the flight controller and so I didn't even see

[00:27:44]   it and I was going crazy I replaced everything on the quad before realizing that other than the flight controller before realizing that the microphone was down under there and I cut one of the

[00:27:56]   leads on the microphone and magically everything was fine again that was super annoying so that's almost certainly what's going on thr coold power says Magie be impressed with his

[00:28:06]   new batteries tonian says battery Rams nice battery Rams crom says long batteries do they freestyle we're g to find out wee bed's in the house what's up zot how are you

[00:28:19]   dude thank you so much as always Lewis says got air 75 and the camera looks awesome inside but then I went outside sunny and it kind of looked bad I couldn't see [@$#%] any ideas most of

[00:28:32]   these tiny whoop cameras have no adjustability whatsoever so there's really nothing you can do about it try a different camera and that's or just deal with it yeah the CO3 does look really

[00:28:46]   good inside I'm considering moving towards the CO3 the problem is wait that camera with an adap like this very cool one that is in this mess of a desk

[00:29:04]   somewhere that timens created where the hell there it is Timmons created this little I think it's specifically for the CO3 3D printed adapter so that you can mount the CO3 camera in a mobul 6 an old

[00:29:21]   school upside down ball sack mobula 6 canopy that setup I think it's going to be damn near one full gram heavier than a run cam Nano 3 in there and the CO3 is not that much

[00:29:42]   better than the Run cam nano3 so I I don't know about that it feels like the only way to get a CO3 onto one of these whoops and keep it lightweight is to use the G string canopy the

[00:29:59]   new the the current BetaFPV g string canopy setup it's all right I I don't love it but it's all right at least it's durable I don't know I I'm going to start messing around with

[00:30:16]   it again I I I also want to try the new HappyModel g string canopy it sits a little bit lower I don't know we'll see we'll see Coal Power says put it on the walks

[00:30:30]   snail 1S and see if you can get 3 minutes that is not a terrible idea yeah the only problem is the extra weight now now you've got like a 65mm tiny whoop that's like 45

[00:30:48]   gram probably all up I'm actually curious let's see I mean it's is only four extra grams but you've got six extra grams from WalkSnail and then you've got another

[00:31:01]   three or four extra grams so the little RC drift car chasing rig is 24.4 g with a big long battery that's not that bad 36 G right on the nose whereas it's normally 32.8 G almost 30 33 G so

[00:31:23]    what's funny is like I would rather put this on an analog rig because an analog rig rig is already lightweight so then this is the extra weight added from this makes an analog rig fly like a

[00:31:33]   walks nail rig the the WalkSnail rigs are already heavy and I I really don't want to add any extra weight to them right so it's like the weirdest back and I mean

[00:31:46]   that's the that's the game right we add power we need to add battery it adds weight we need more power to make up for the extra weight then it doesn't fly as good cuz it's heavier like it's

[00:31:57]   this this back and forth of extra power versus extra runtime coming along with extra weight it's a there's a really fine balance right and then like the weight that you

[00:32:10]   add makes it you've got less of a power to weight ratio and it's so it's tough It's very tough I don't have a problem with short runtimes if the performance is there right like a

[00:32:24]   two and a half minute runtime with good performance I'm willing to overlook that I would rather not get a three and a half minute runtime and have the performance suffer right that is a

[00:32:37]   that's a tough balance to get 5-in rigs it's less of a it's less of a problem there are just so many components out there and those big ass propellers are really nice and efficient

[00:32:50]    tiny whoops are the it's the most difficult it's the most difficult to balance all of that because we have the least efficient sized propeller as propellers

[00:33:01]   get smaller they get less efficient there's nothing you can do about that that that is that is physics that you're butting up against there so as a reminder I've got m1.4 by4 screws and

[00:33:16]   1.27 mm motor spacers if you're looking to do a 2S 75mm build which you should be because it's absolutely insane you're going to need those if you're going to run a 2mm tall motor with the

[00:33:32]   mobile 7 V3 frame which is the frame you want to reuse it's just it's awesome Uriel says you can poch Teddy what's poch mean poly shortcut says will that battery fit on top of a Bido I I

[00:33:48]   don't I don't have my Bido anymore but I can tell you that a 300 mAh battery was all the way up against the top of the camera with this battery it would be in the camera view you would

[00:34:03]   have to hang this battery off the back of that damn thing and then you'd have to run a really long battery lead to get all the way back there so I don't think you'd want to do that

[00:34:13]   um Co power says teas Christopher black ledge says finish the analog build BetaFPV 5 in1 crazy it came with meteor 75 BNF I wanted those Motors 1102 22000 put on a small 7

[00:34:29]   75 mm frame the one that has 2S holder HappyModel I Happy models I believe but it's a tough frame I'll say that feels compact flies like a 65 with I think two batteries just finished

[00:34:46]   at the same time that was such a weird series of beeps from over there nice dude let us know how that flies it sounds like you haven't flown it quite yet flyzone FPV says Moss one says

[00:34:56]   happy Friday the 13th is it really look at that it's murder day thrash F says that cam was from a rig I bought I thought the AIO died on and I got a replacement there you go going to

[00:35:09]   throw that board into the 2S I blew up last week it's a good day today there you go man yep hold on the isdt is beeping in a way that I've never heard it beep before in

[00:35:24]   years okay no both of these that's super weird that's never happened before both of these batteries finished at the exact same time and it was it was beeping for each one of them that's super funny

[00:35:37]   that it was doing that all right one more battery on here and happy days are here at last all right all right that won't beep again for a while am I caught up on chat almost Co

[00:36:09]   power says isdt casually letting know your batteries are on fire that's why I heard the double beep I was like is that the this battery is on fire beep limit says by

[00:36:20]   the way the 1.2 by 1.2x two HQ props are available at the HQ website I received a bunch of them today very cool limits where did they ship from did they ship from overseas I've kind of found that IR

[00:36:33]   thank you so much I've found that when stuff pops up overseas ordering it and then waiting for it to arrive during the time that I'm waiting for stuff to arrive they pop up on rdq get

[00:36:48]   FPV pyro drone and then I could have just ordered it from them and it would get here in the kind of the same amount of time where are they shipping from though IR grep boy Toof with a $2 Super

[00:36:58]   Chat dude super generous thank you so much he says man keep rocking rocking have an awesome Christmas thank you dude super cool of you I hope you're doing well I I I and I got to

[00:37:08]   hang out on weekly phone calls for Joshua when we were working on his FPV know-all site and it was really really cool to get to hang out it was four of us on a zoom call and we

[00:37:23]   would have a blast every week and I missed that I I I I really do miss that it was super super fun and we did some really good work on that website which helped tons of people out so that

[00:37:35]   felt really good that we were working on something that was like really important and helping lots of people auti autistic Yap with a 99 cent Super Chat thank you dude no comment just want

[00:37:45]   to support the madness thank you dude limits says they ship from China I ordered last week but I live in Europe though ah okay here in the us when we order stuff from China

[00:37:56]   it'll take upwards of like a month to get here a lot of times and in that amount of time they'll pop up State side and we can just order it so keep keep waiting friends the I'm really

[00:38:11]   impressed by these props we're going to fly them in a little bit pre says considering a WalkSnail fractal build with the tiny whoop 30802 Motors that you tested with the WalkSnail 1 sv3

[00:38:22]   kit what do you think of this the main thing I think is that you want to stay away from that frame that is a frame that's going to give you less power less runtime and less durability

[00:38:32]    so get away from that frame just use the regular old plastic frames they're better in every way and that's going to be a much better build so you're doing walks

[00:38:44]   snail I would not necessarily recommend 1S WalkSnail with this is actually my 75mm 1S WalkSnail build and it's getting pulled it's getting taken apart I'm going to take the VTX

[00:39:01]   off of it I'm going to take WalkSnail off of it and it's not going to go back together the the the difference in flight performance between 1S and 2S on 75mm rigs is

[00:39:15]   outrageous especially with the extra weight of WalkSnail and so I I flew this rig another couple times and there's just there's no reason to keep this together when the 2S build is just

[00:39:31]   better in every way better power to weight ratio significantly more runtime and efficiency because of the higher voltage way more motor options because it's 2S we don't have to like

[00:39:45]   you know there really aren't any 1S Motors that are a high enough KV there are but they only have a 1 mm motor shaft which is super fragile and then they absolutely annihilate the

[00:39:58]   batteries if you go up to a big enough mAh battery which is going to be like a 550 or a 650 now the 1S setup is actually heavier than the 2S setup so by the time on the 1S builds you

[00:40:14]   get enough Mah in the battery it's heavier and it flies even worse so I I just I cannot recommend the the only situation that I can possibly recommend a 1S 75mm rig

[00:40:32]   is if you have a whole bunch of the 450 Mah 1S batteries and for some reason you just can't justify selling them to buy a bunch of the awesome tiny whoop 2S BT 3.0 300 MH batteries this

[00:40:51]   battery is 600 Mah total right two 2S 300 so two 300 Mah cells with BT 3.0 and it's just it's incredible it the the again more power more efficiency more flight time I I there's

[00:41:14]   there's there's just nothing that this does better the the the 1S setup is inferior in every way if you've got an X12 AIO I've got one that's been running on 2S on an analog rig for a

[00:41:29]   while now and it's been bulletproof and the flight performance is just mindblowing on on an analog 2S 75mm rig it flies like a like it actually flies like a 5 in rig it's nuts but just

[00:41:44]   scaled down for your front yard and your backyard and then if you want to put WalkSnail onto it now that now you really want the 2S like the this 1S setup with the extra weight of walk

[00:41:59]   snail it's just not there it's like the the power to rate ratio is not right and then the efficiency isn't good either and so it's like what is this for like I've been keeping this

[00:42:15]   together like just because this is the best possible setup if you're going to do 1 s75 with WalkSnail but like the more that I fly these 2S rigs it's just like this is

[00:42:27]   why am I doing this like why am I flying this this makes no sense and so it's coming apart like I I hate to do it because I spent literally hundreds of hours figuring this combination out

[00:42:41]   and it hurts to just bail on that but the live streams are up that that whole process will live on for as long as YouTube lives I'm not going to keep this rig together just sitting

[00:42:56]   inside of this thing not getting flown ever right like like this has been just sitting in here and I and I have not touched it since the two H I flew it maybe once to compare it to

[00:43:07]   the 2S Rigs and then the other day I flew it again and I was just like no no I'm not going to have not to mention that this is like this is like 200 bucks this is this has

[00:43:21]   like $200 tied up in it I can't afford to have $200 just sitting here that I'm not using I'm not doing anything with that's silly so I'm going to pull it down and then I'll have an extra one of

[00:43:32]   these old school BetaFPV cross style aios which are my favorite aios for the 1S WalkSnail builds and the the VTX will get put into the 2S setup and I'll have

[00:43:49]   something that I actually use and do fly around so I I I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I'm actually also thrilled to be the bearer of bad news because hopefully I

[00:44:03]   can prevent you from building something that is inferior in every way than the 2S builds so this might not be the answer that you want but it's the answer that you need if that makes sense

[00:44:18]   cool pre also says all right so hear me out here's my backup plan I have an air 75 frame and an analog AO with a cadx ant with those tiny whoop 30,000 would that be a more solid builds no

[00:44:38]   1s is just it's not the way 1S is not the way for 75mm builds certainly not for WalkSnail builds unless it's a 65 unless you scale down to 65 because with 65mm builds there are no

[00:44:55]   frames that will take 2S even if you like rubber band a 2S setup onto a 65mm rig it's too heavy so 65 is the right size for 1S 1s can do WalkSnail builds you don't get great

[00:45:10]   runtime but you at least get decent flight performance and then when you get to 75 it's just TOS man the the the performance is so good the the extra efficiency is so good you're like two

[00:45:28]   G heavier the the lightest not the absolute lightest but like the with off-the-shelf parts the lightest 1 s75 setup is only about two grams different than the 2S setup so a 2 G weight

[00:45:43]   penalty for more power way more power like way way way more power and significantly more runtime is an absolute no-brainer so uh I just I I I have so many of these 1S 450 Mah

[00:46:03]   batteries I have so much time invested in 1S 75mm setups I hate that that 2S is so much better but it is and I can't ignore that anymore and I have been I was kind

[00:46:18]   of ignoring it for a while because I had a lot invested in in 1 s75 a lot of time a lot of money but I I can't I can't ignore it anymore it's it's

[00:46:33]   just 2S is just so much fun to fly oh my God it is so much fun to fly and the 1S 75 stuff was like it was okay it was okay to fly but like there was always this moment of

[00:46:49]   like oh God either it's like washing out in its own garbage or like it just it won't throw up over a tree or like there were just all these situations where it was like damn this needs more power or I

[00:47:01]   come in after two minutes and the battery is boiling hot and it's like damn I need more run time I need more efficiency and so the amount of weight that these 75mm rigs are here's

[00:47:13]   the long and short of it for every battery voltage 1S 2S 3s 4s 5s 6s there is an all up weight and an amount and a power to weight ratio right 10:1 8:1 6:1 whatever

[00:47:31]    so those two things there is a right battery voltage for those two things and the right battery voltage for what a 75mm rig ends up weighing if you don't go completely crazy making it lightweight

[00:47:48]   doing customization drilling holes using unreasonably fragile components with durable components the amount of weight that a 75mm rig is for flying out in front and behind

[00:48:04]   your house it's 2S absolutely no questions if you ask anybody that has done 1 s75 and 2 s75 in front and behind their house or jungle gyms or stuff they'll tell you the same

[00:48:20]   thing jungle gyms jungle gyms you could maybe make the argument for for 1 s75 if you're only going to fly it at a jungle gym the the jungle gyms are small and tight

[00:48:33]   enough where it's basically like flying in your living room right like you could fit a jungle gym in your living room and so if you're only going to fly a 75mm rig inside the house or at a jungle gym

[00:48:47]   you could maybe justify the extra like two to three G weight savings that you can get by staying on 1 s but then if you go to that thing anywhere bigger like the front of your

[00:48:59]   house like behind your house it sucks sorry but it does like 1S it's sucks it's no now that I've spent a bunch of time on 2S I can say that previous to 2S opening my eyes it would it's like I

[00:49:14]   wouldn't say it sucks I'd be like man I wish I had more I wish I had more efficiency I wish I had more runtime and I busted my ass to try to figure that out and it's just not there there's a

[00:49:24]   limitation to every battery voltage the lower the voltage the more heat gets produced when you start asking it for more power and that is basically where we're at it's the same exact situation in the

[00:49:39]   5-in world when we went from 4S to 6s the rigs were starting to get a little bit heavier and going from 4 to 6s got you more power and more efficiency and I and I'll never forget when it first

[00:49:52]   happened steel put a video out talking about more efficiency and more more Power from 6s than 4S and all of the people that don't fly very much went crazy and said that's impossible you're

[00:50:04]   an [@$#%] you're an idiot you don't know what the hell you're talking about and then slowly but surely as more and more people tested it's was like oh okay and that's going from four to six

[00:50:18]   that's a 50% increase going from 1S to 2S is 100% More Voltage it's double the voltage so of course there's going to be a massive improvement with with efficiency and then the big improvement with power

[00:50:34]   is just that there are Motors that when you feed them double the voltage make assloads of RPM and so the fact that like we only really have like these 22,000 KV Motors as the max doesn't

[00:50:48]   matter anymore now we've got 14,000 15,000 18,000 19,000 hell you can even run the 20 21 22,000 KV Motors and just motor limit the hell out of them and you can just get like basically an infinite

[00:51:01]   amount of power out of the the 2S setup because of that extra voltage so it really just it fixes so many problems it's really it's staggering how good it is I I

[00:51:16]   I every time I fly it I'm like holy [@$#%] it just does it's just so good it's so good and I haven't really pushed it like I'm still motor limiting down to like 75 80% I don't even know what it would

[00:51:30]   be like at 100% on these like 18 19,000 KB Motors if you're really power hungry sky the limit with 2S man so uh like I said probably not the answer that you wanted but it's

[00:51:45]   the answer that you need brother stop spending money on 1 s75 right now any money that you have spent sell it and go to 2S down the road you're going to go to 2S anyway so you either piss a bunch of

[00:52:01]   money away now trying to make 1S work like I did and time or you stop and pull the Band-Aid off earlier than later Co power says how long the long battery could sit a little further back

[00:52:19]   and offset the weight of an insta 360 I don't know I'm spitballing maybe then you'd have to run the battery lead really long so it's a super interesting idea the you got to be careful though

[00:52:39]    like so pushing a camera so the tiny lifters right the reason why the tiny lifters work and are able to pick up a heavy ass 26 gam insta 360 goto is that it puts the insta 360

[00:52:55]   dead center when you start pushing a camera forward it's going to overload the front Motors so what coal pow is talking about is then offsetting and P pushing the battery back so that you're you're

[00:53:13]   keeping the center of gravity balanced so you're no longer going to overload the front Motors because you're you're bringing that weight back the problem becomes you're spreading more weight on

[00:53:25]   the pitch axis and so what happens is when you go to do anything with pitch it becomes very sluggish and then when you do stuff on Roll it's very quick and it leaves you with like a weirdly

[00:53:37]   balanced feeling and then like you have to end up like really pushing the pids hard on the pitch axis which is I was so thrilled that they when they put those extra Sliders in for pitch so that's

[00:53:49]   the only like technical problem with doing that that's actually like a really good idea and that's a really good thought the tiny lifters are to the the there's no way to do 1 s and pick up the

[00:54:05]   insta 360 go so you would have to have two of these in parallel which is the setup that I have that's a super interesting idea dude I I'm for sure going to try that that's going to add

[00:54:20]   what did we say this is four extra grams three extra grams it's G to add at least six extra grams to the tiny lifters which is an awful lot the biggest pain in the ass is going to be that I'm

[00:54:32]   gonna have to custom build a battery lead I guess what I could do is rotate the aiio so that the battery leads are in the front and then push this battery all the way through

[00:54:48]   that's a super cool idea dude super super super cool idea the the the double bt2.0 leads you can buy they are barely long enough for like a regular battery to go in here

[00:55:03]    and so look how silly that looks so the farthest back I'd be able to put it is so I'd have to run it longer but what I would actually do I mean I I I don't necessarily need

[00:55:26]   with with the current I have so there are four versions of this Mount dead center and then push a little bit farther forward push a little bit farther forward push a little bit

[00:55:37]   farther forward the problem with this layout is that if you push it much farther forward it'll get in the way of the camera view but so for the tiny lifter this is pretty much done like

[00:55:52]   this is the insta 360 is in the right spot double 300 Mah batteries give me a half decent runtime so this is locked in I I love the idea of continuing to screw around with

[00:56:07]   this type of a build where it's an analog tiny whoop that can pick up an insta 360 these big long batteries open the door for doing a build like this for the new heavier

[00:56:21]   insta 360 go3 which can actually do 4K and so that's kind of cool and then if we wanted to figure out a way of pushing the pushing the camera and the insta 360 even farther forward then what

[00:56:40]   you're saying could be absolutely true run these battery leads in the front and then basically run the batteries through the front and let the battery stick out the back right and just have

[00:56:50]   the the power leads coming up here I I don't usually like to have the power leads in the front because if you're flying and you scrape the ground it's you have the

[00:57:01]   potential to like rip the leads off or mangle the battery wires and stuff so that that would be a bit of a redesign on this as this sits I I get enough runtime I get I I think I get

[00:57:17]   almost three minutes of runtime which is I I don't I really don't need more than that but that's a really good idea dude that's a really good idea if you're going to do like a heavier

[00:57:28]   cinematic oh where these might really shine is with the if the 03 the 04 light setup if we wanted to do like the 04 light setup these batteries might be the jam

[00:57:44]   for that that could be super cool because that's it's looking it's going to be 10 grams the WalkSnail is 6 G so these batteries might come in super handy at some point

[00:57:58]    I'll be I'll be doing builds in my brain and I'm like I said earlier I'm sure that there is someone or some build that these batteries are absolutely perfect for and if anybody's going

[00:58:14]   to figure them out figure that out we're going to figure that out what I mean remember I was talking about the the BetaFPV 12 amp AIO I was I was I was going to break break down and then put

[00:58:27]   it in the V4 frame so that I so that the USB ports not in the way so I could run these 802s and I was going to put an external uh VTX on it I realized earlier today I I mean I can do that but

[00:58:40]   I wouldn't have OSD this version three BetaFPV 12 amp with no USB also has no OSD chip on it because it's really it's specifically meant for used with digital so this is just

[00:58:57]   gonna well I've decided to pull this apart so this the 2S WalkSnail rig is going to go back together I'm not going to move this this AIO anywhere it's going to stay in this frame with the RC and Power

[00:59:11]   102 for 19000s and I'm just going to slap another a third WalkSnail VTX onto it and hopefully it doesn't blow this one up and so that's nice this guy this is the analog 2S 75mm

[00:59:29]   rig is going to be coming out of this version 4 frame and just going into another version three frame I need to get a bunch more mobul 7 V3 frames the V4 frame is super tempting because

[00:59:41]   it's a gram lighter but you have to remove the battery Bay things and then the USB port really gets in the way yes you can put really tall grommets on it to lift the aios up just barely high

[00:59:55]   enough that the USB Port gets out of the way but I don't like doing that the the posts on these plastic frames that the aios Mount to I've broken quite a few of those over the years when you

[01:00:11]   crash them really hard and it's super annoying when you break those posts because you got to pull the whole goddamn thing apart all the motors off stack out and so I'm not going to do

[01:00:21]   that I'm going to keep this V4 frame it matches up really well with the BetaFPV 12 amp AIO because it does not have a USB port on the bottom at all in there they use a jst plug with a little

[01:00:38]   dongly boy and I've already got this V4 frame notched out for that jst Port so I'm going to hold on to this V4 frame if at some point I'm desperate to see what a little bit of extra

[01:00:53]   lightweight does to a build like this with this frame I've got it but I can't really recommend the the V4 frame I don't think I've got the extra long screws and the spacers that you need to

[01:01:05]   use the mobule 7 V3 frame and that V3 frame is like hysterically durable and so it's the V3 it's the V3 frame that's the way to go and so I'm just going to stack these

[01:01:22]   two up to remind myself to tear that 1S 75 WalkSnail rig down it hurts to do it like I was saying it really earlier it really does hurt to do it but I'm just not going to fly it's just

[01:01:37]   nowhere near as good as 2S in any way and so two 75mm rigs that are analog on 1S I really like them on 2S but without the extra 6 G of WalkSnail it's way more realistic and they fly okay

[01:02:01]   they don't fly great though 2S flies great I thought that the 1S lightweight analog 75s flew great until I started flying them on 2S and now I can't I can't unsee it you

[01:02:18]   know what I mean So Co no we got that Porky chop FP says what's a good 2S board for those 75mm rigs HappyModel X12 the HappyModel X12 will fit perfectly in the mobul 7 V3 and V4

[01:02:36]   frames it won't fit in any other frames it's a slightly oversized board my other one is actually running on that stupid hglrc Spectre AIO that says that it's 1S to 2S but it doesn't work on 1s

[01:02:50]   it works fine on 2S I would stick with the with the HappyModel X12 12 to be honest with you but if that's out of stock or if for some reason you have that hdlc Spectre AO do it the other

[01:03:07]   option is going to be the BetaFPV 12 amp but for analog the version three of this 12 amp is you're not going to get OSD which is going to drive you insane so just don't do it so the the

[01:03:21]   beta FPV 12 amp version three in my opinion is mainly for the digital builds they do have a version two I think or it might be version one or something it's not the

[01:03:33]   version three it's earlier than the version 3 12 amp just like this which does have an OSD chip on it's doesn't have a VTX built in the X12 and the Spectre do and so that's kind of silly

[01:03:49]   it's kind of silly to do a tiny whoop build with the 12 amp BetaFPV version 2 and then put an external VTX on it the only justification for doing that is if you want the absolute best possible

[01:04:04]   quality video and then you get the TBS Pro 32 Nano which is known to be like the best cleanest tiny little lightweight VTX that there is the X12 and the hdrc Spectre give me

[01:04:20]   great video quality I have no complaints so unless you're doing like some kind of a cinematic analog build I I I really don't I don't see a reason to do that the build is going to be way more

[01:04:34]   complex so and who the hell is doing analog cinematic builds other than me for the chasing little RC drift cars so there you go limit says can't wait to see you build 2S 75mm 04

[01:04:51]   light I know you will I I I will hopefully be the first one to get that build I am so [@$#%] excited for that PR says thanks so much man so much good information in such a short amount

[01:05:01]   of time you're certainly welcome brother Bob Bruce says do you have plans for those Motors they are the Bell swwa 33000 right I have a lot of bell swapped 802s at the moment some of them are are I got

[01:05:17]   to get rid of some of them the these are the 33,000 KV 802 Bell swapped Motors I will be keeping these sorry the 30,000 KV ones I can probably be convinced to to

[01:05:36]   sell it hurts to sell them because it's a red Stater with a purple bell and that's the old school CiottiFPV logo so it's like I'm like but I I will I will almost

[01:05:51]   certainly sell them because I have these I am going to keep a 1S 75mm analog rig together it's probably this it's probably this one actually I'm going to keep two of them together because

[01:06:07]   cloudhopper very kindly built and sent me this and there's no way in hell that I'm going to sell this and I there's really no reason to tear it apart so I'm probably going to have

[01:06:21]   forever two analog 75mm builds and it's right here and they they'll probably be what lives in this awesome custom case that custom FPV made for me and I'll keep some of the

[01:06:36]   450 1S batteries and there'll be a time and a place where where I fly these two guys but the Bell swapped 33,000 KV Motors are are staying with me there's it so

[01:06:49]   cloudhopper custom wound a set of the HappyModel RS 0802 Motors this is the lightest weight 0802 motor with a 1 and half mm motor shaft this does not have so this is this Frame and these

[01:07:08]   motors are about as light as you're going to get it this canopy and camera setup are not the lightest and so I will probably Swap this over also it bugs me that it's a it's a clear canopy with a

[01:07:23]   black clear frame with a black canopy I will almost certainly Swap this build over to a clear old school mobul 6 canopy with a runam nano3 so that this is a little bit lighter weight

[01:07:37]    and then I mean it already flies pretty damn good and it'll be a little bit better and so these two are staying with me especially with those props that are coming I have the the

[01:07:51]   HQ ultral light 1.6 in by blades coming with the that are drilled for 1 and a half mil so these two are going to get flown a bunch very soon when those props come in there's going to be a

[01:08:05]   live stream comparing like kind of the hottest 1S 75 mil Builds on those props to these 2S builds and I'll try my best not to rag on these too badly but I mean

[01:08:25]   you'll see you'll see the difference and you'll be blown away here's the other thing too I've barely scratched the surface of these 2S builds right like I have not started refining these

[01:08:37]   2s builds at all these these two builds have many months of effort put into them what I'm saying trying different parts trying different Motors trying different ways of building it

[01:08:50]   different aios and a lot of that experience carried right over into the 2S builds so I mean they're their the 2S setups are probably pretty close to their final form but interesting stuff if

[01:09:11]   you told me six months ago that I'd be sitting here telling people not to build 1S 75mm rigs I would I would tell you that you're [@$#%] stoned out of your mind but you can't argue with the

[01:09:25]   result it's BT 3.0 is awesome and it just it gives you so much range of that build of what you can do with it big Power big runtime somewhere in between really really cool stuff

[01:09:44]   and the aios are holding up which is amazing pre says I mean that air 75 would be an analog build instead of WalkSnail which I'd assume would fly way better on 1S yeah the the air 75

[01:10:03]   is it's pretty good but it's pretty good it's not great the 2 s75 builds are mindblowing the air 75 is not mind-blowing in any way it's just you fly and you're like okay this is all

[01:10:18]   right this is fine this flies and then you fly a 2S build and you're like oh this is most fun I've ever had I'm never flying anywhere but my front yard and backyard again it's seriously that good man I

[01:10:31]   it's just awesome pre we got that thrash says can I realistically bring 25,000 KV down to 75% for 2S 75mm I really want to see how my igal motors with the 1 and a

[01:10:45]   half millimeter shaft but I know throttle you lose throttle just do it bring them down to like 60% and just do it it'll fly it and it shouldn't blow up you're you're going to sacrifice a

[01:11:01]   little bit of efficiency and throttle resolution but that's not going to matter for right now just do it and just see what it's like and then you'll be like oh my God 2S is the way let me sell

[01:11:13]   a lot of this 1S 75 stuff and then you'll have money to just go all in on 2S and get the right set of motors and a way you go but like you you'll be totally fine just doing it to be

[01:11:25]   honest it'll probably be full-blown fine and you could probably run that forever and not even notice the the little bit of the little bit less throttle resolution and the little

[01:11:36]   bit less efficiency but eventually you'll be like well it could be better eventually there'll be a time where to buy lower KV Motors and then you do it and a way you go also 802 well

[01:11:50]   I'm not going to say that I was going to say 802s are a little bit too small but I haven't actually tested it yet because I chose the wrong frame like a dum dum I will be testing the 802s but

[01:12:02]   I've run the 803s and they're not quite enough the 102s are just magic on on 2S 802s will probably be fine do it still just do it and you'll you'll be blown away and then that'll give you the kick

[01:12:18]   in the ass to get a set of 102 18 or 19000s and then you'll just like your brain will melt out of your ear Hol just another Kevin what is what are you doing I don't even remember the website that does this

[01:12:31]   anymore that I set it up on I gotta fix that this this is now in the way of that that looks that's a hot mess I gotta streamlabs maybe just another Kevin with a $20 Super Chat thank you so

[01:12:42]   brother so much brother he says Ciotti happy birthdays thank you man happy holiday Jesus happy birthday thank you dude all right let me get caught up on the chat and then we're going to dive

[01:12:53]   into these props right hold on I no wonder why the computer's weird this is sitting here playing the whole time hold up okay maybe I won't get that second package I'll play the rest of the uh,

[01:13:17]   1400 foot 65mm dive at the end of the stream no matter what I promise I won't keep you guys hanging where was I in chat thank you so much YouTube for randomly scrolling me to the

[01:13:40]   bottom chat for the the bottom of chat for the 40th time today in making me have to sit here and figure out where I was there we go Willie Summit says would a 19,000 KV mobula 7 1 and half

[01:13:58]   motor cap fit on a mobula 6 25,000 KB motor I think you mean motor Bell the HappyModel the HappyModel Motors are Universal as long as you don't change the stator size so all of the 0 72s you

[01:14:19]   can interchange the Bells with the Staters there's no reason to there's only one Bell design but if you wanted to mix and match colors you could do it 802s it becomes much more interesting

[01:14:29]   because you've got the RS 0802 Bell you've got the tiny whoop onesie Bell which is the old school HappyModel 802 Bell you've got 1 mm you've got one and a half millimeter that's the reason

[01:14:42]   to do 802s right right right we bed sells I'm sorry 72s wee bed sells 0702 Bells with a 1 and a half millim motor shaft so there is absolutely a reason to swap on 072 2 but 802

[01:14:56]   it's super fun there's all there's like three or four different Bell design there's the old school two-piece there's the onz which is that same Bell but a one piece instead of a two-piece there's

[01:15:06]   the RS Bell and then there's the ex Bells which tiny whoop calls hex heex so there's four different Bell designs for happy for HappyModel 802s and they're all interchangeable and the bell has

[01:15:22]   nothing to do with the KV the Bell is just magnets and there's the same number of magnets and in theory there's they're the same thickness and strength magnets you never know HappyModel may have

[01:15:35]   changed that at some point but totally interchangeable between all the 802s good question pre says would the same 0802 30,000 KV Motors handle 2S though or go up in Flames if you motor limited enough

[01:15:51]   they'll be fine but the more you motor limit the the worse the throttle resolution and the worse the efficiency gets so it just gets worse and worse and worse and you also have to be really

[01:16:04]   careful if you spin the motors up in the motors tab because the motors tab does not care about the throttle about the motor limiting in the pids tab so if you have that 30,000 KV motor on 2S and you

[01:16:16]   grab one of those sliders and ramp it up to 100% in the motors tab it'll probably blow up it'll probably blow up the ESC it might blow up the motor the the the windings might cook but in

[01:16:28]   terms of flight performance is if you have like a 50% motor limit on you'll be fine it's going to limit the pids and the throttle and that's everything but you're going to have half as many

[01:16:42]   steps in the in the throttle resolution so there there could be a point where like you move the throttle a tiny little bit and nothing happens because you haven't moved it beyond the step

[01:16:53]   yet skull 901 says fly the 465 so we can see how it is okay I'm a pretty agreeable guy I want a flight too I like to try to get caught up on chat before anything

[01:17:16]   else but if you like I want to do it I I'm dying to know what a what a big old battery is like on a 65 so I got to really try to not crash don't crash don't crash you idiot don't crash

[01:17:36]   don't call yourself an idiot you idiot don't call yourself an idiot there we go got it watch that shame friends I know it's funny to like trash on yourself but it's just not good it's just

[01:17:53]   isn't I know that that you're doing it to be funny but it doesn't matter it's just not good it's just not a good thing to do I say that as someone who's done a

[01:18:05]   lot of therapy and I have an incredible therapist who has explained it to me in depth just take my word for it's you say something think of it this way you say you go in the mirror and you

[01:18:23]   say something to yourself enough times you're going to [@$#%] believe it same thing you're not doing it in a mirror but you're hearing it and you're saying it and some part of you kind of

[01:18:31]   believes it and that's not good there's no reason for that I'm trying to figure out what rig I'm going to put these on it's got to be the the RC and power rig right this is the rig that has the

[01:18:42]   worst run time and it's fairly lightweight yeah we're going to run it on this one newbie drone cockroach V3 frame mobula 6 old school canopy run cam Nano 3 ort micro V antenna 2g4 AIO RC and

[01:19:07]   power 0702 I'm not going to run it on this rig I'm not going to run it on this I am I am I am I was going to say because I have these props on I'd rather remove these props

[01:19:24]   and put a but I'm about to run this on these props with a 300 M battery so this will be cool we'll get a we'll get a head-to-head runtime comparison even though I'm not going to fly it as hard

[01:19:37]   on this battery but let's just see what's up I'm also curious to see if if you'll be able to see the battery in the in the camera view shout out to Weeble for making cool [@$#%] man Taking Chances and

[01:19:53]   making cool [@$#%] he doesn't have to do that he's doing that for us he's doing that because he loves tiny whooping and he wants us to be able to try different stuff it's expensive to

[01:20:05]   make to do [@$#%] like thisyou know he's got to buy a ton of these he's taking a big chance what if they don't sell angle Mod's on it flies totally

[01:20:21]   fine these motors have Mega Power it flies completely fine I mean obviously it's four grams three or four grams heavier so the power to weight ratio is not quite as good but

[01:20:40]   like these motors make a ton of power and so they really make up for it so this is now all this is is me saying to myself don't crash don't crash don't

[01:20:58]   crash oh boy that would have been nasty so it's heavier it's feels heavier it's a little bit slower a little bit more sluggish but still flies pretty damn good where is Teddy oh

[01:21:17]   no oh God no don't do it all right two little hits so far I mean like even the yaw performance is fine let's do a mirror flip with it oh and what you can't see it you

[01:21:32]   can't see it on the bottom of the camera view oh can I use it as like a javelin against the mirror to stable stabilize myself for the best mirror flip ever let's

[01:21:44]   see oh this is going to make the runtime go nutso oh God all right that was a that was a pretty light crap we're probably fine that was an awkward little moment I didn't push the sticks enough W [@$#%] all

[01:22:04]   right we backed in it was a backed in Crash we should be all right what I really don't want to do is like nose it into the ground hard because that's going to that's going to push the

[01:22:14]   battery backwards and try to rip the battery leads off and it may very well succeed oh no no backed it in again good that's fine oh what's funny it's hard to Turtle mode with the front

[01:22:36]   Motors cuz it's so heavy up front nothing wrong with the way this flies ah wow oh no see that's exactly the kind of Crash that I didn't want to have happen let me check it real

[01:22:56]   quick to the edge of a symbol what a [Laughter] dummy n it's okay it's all right it's fine let's keep going 2 minutes and 30 seconds let's go back upstairs 2 minutes 43 seconds not bad

[01:23:15]   oh God no wny can't I just fly safe why do I always have to push everything to the absolute bitter limits oh look at the the Mah I have my Mah warning set to flash at 300 Mah it's

[01:23:32]   like what's happening bro and I have the runtime set oh no that's the exact kind of Crash that I didn't want the the run time is flashing at three minutes now

[01:23:44]   too the quad's like how is this possible we're still going dead hover 3.5 volts let's get it back oh [@$#%] no that's in a box I'm not even gonna

[01:24:09]   bother kids are whing out upstairs I got the I got the house all to myself Maggie's on a writing Retreat for the weekend so I'm like down here screaming blasting music it's chaos all right dead

[01:24:21]   hover what's it going to be at voltage wise 3.5 that's when we come home I mean it is a bigger battery though I could probably run it more but we just for the sake of argument three 3 minutes 35

[01:24:34]   seconds this is a rig that I was getting a full minute less than that yesterday we're going to run a 300 M battery right now though see the battery bouncing back to 3.66 so that's when I

[01:24:45]   usually stop running these so 3 minutes and let's just say 3 minutes and 30 because I did um run it down a little bit more right I ran it down to like 3.48 3.49 so we'll say 3 minutes

[01:25:01]   and 30 seconds nice round number and now we're going to run a pretty fresh 300 Mah we bed battery and I'm going to try to fly somewhat the same we'll do a mirror flip I'll go upstairs do a bunch of big big

[01:25:17]   [@$#%] and then we'll see I'll Stevie Wonder it for you guys I can't believe I Stevie wondered two batteries yesterday Wednesday here we go obviously this feels

[01:25:35]   lighter it's definitely noticeable oh get you some let's get upstairs and do a couple big full room power Loops oh come on now oh a big that was a big one

[01:26:01]   yo so was that oh face first into the islands yikes all right I think that's about as much as I did upstairs on that previous battery let's get the mirror flip in so I kind of [@$#%] around for a second

[01:26:21]   here getting it all lined up oh that was a pretty good mirror flip do another one real quick oh the Bonk in the middle the mirror flip is my favorite cool we got some crashes in we

[01:26:37]   got some turtle moding oh God I got a little carried away there um yeah oh W it went through boat oh you I was just going to say the f word for no real reason I try to not curse

[01:27:03]   sometimes that was so dope oh no way it went through just the one gate backwards that was all luck but I'll take it ohyoyoyo check this out I I [@$#%] broke a speaker

[01:27:17]   cone with a tiny whoop this Center channel was sounded a little bit weird earlier and I pulled the grill off off and this absolutely happened from a tiny whoop there's a crack in the in the

[01:27:31]    in the cone of the driver one of the drivers and there's like a very obv oh yeah get out of there please yes there's a very obvious white Mark where it broke it's didn't just break

[01:27:46]   from me turning the volume up really loud oh [@$#%] I ran this too long 3 minutes and 44 at a dead hover and we're only at 2 minutes 17 so loads of extra runtime way more extra

[01:28:00]   runtime than I thought part of that could be because I was taking it more easy on the with the big battery because I was specifically trying to not crash but there you go huge

[01:28:14]   difference in in runtime over a minute of extra runtime from the 465 very cool this 465 is Absolutely Fresh zero Cycles on it this has probably been

[01:28:29]   cycled four maybe five times so there's the full kind of situation okay now I can pull these propellers off because I want to see how these emac Avia Tri blades are so

[01:28:47]   let's dive into that I'm going to pop these off because it's going to take a minute we're going to weigh some stuff James Thomas says I just brain farted the O2 series Motors need risers on the

[01:28:57]   V4 right nope only on the V3 mobio 7 frame are 03 Motors to tall for the V3 nope they're perfect they're actually kind of too tall for the V4 but not really they're they're still okay and

[01:29:08]   then check your email for USPS Etsy order I will I'm a little bit behind on my emails I got to get caught up Moss one says did you see pyro has the Run cam 3 in stock for the nanoc

[01:29:22]   Scout not anymore somebody posted that on one of my videos and so I went straight over there and I bought somebody said on one of my a comment on one of my videos it might

[01:29:33]   have been you the last two runcam Nano 3s I've ever seen anywhere are in stock at py drone I went straight there and bought them as well as a nomad module and some other fun stuff for

[01:29:45]   testing so sorry guys at some point maybe I'll move away from the Run Cam nano3 and maybe I'll sell one or two of them but I I just I don't know it's so light and I'm so used to it

[01:30:03]   and nuron says mate tomorrow I'll test an old mobul 6 turned into a kind of air 75 frames props canopy 23 grams lots of Hope 082 are for 75 give Teddy a hug for me I will I will indeed if he

[01:30:16]   comes down here Jason Crabtree says 65mm s still have a place sluse case oh for sure you 65 mil is King for racing and inside the house I still fly more 65 than everything else

[01:30:29]   combined Uriel says at 3 in you could use it battery for the headlight setup for a night flight that's true this would be a hell of an auxiliary 1S Battery King dingling says can't you

[01:30:41]   wire Cam and VTX to minimum OSD yep on the beta HD to get OSD yep I've been looking into it since my WalkSnail 1S light vs are toasted minim OSD if you can find it is a old

[01:30:58]   school OSD only little tiny chip that you can put onto anything chonan says the issue I have with the V3 frame is it causes freakouts on really fast ya'all moves Brandon Bean says it was

[01:31:09]   because of too much in the way of props airflow but the way I fly it was terrible interesting I've not had that issue at all where the hell there's one I mean it's got a

[01:31:30]   little bit extra out here a little bit extra in the way of the air flow but it's not that bad huh that's weird have you switched to a different frame and that problem goes

[01:31:45]   away I'm shocked at that to be honest but I've there are weirder things Coal Power says More Voltage means less current for the same Watts current makes heat heat is power not doing

[01:32:01]   mechanical work if you could do a 6S tiny whoop it would be efficient AF there is a point where the the gains from going up in voltage there is a point of

[01:32:14]   diminishing returns for the gains by going with extra voltage also what happens is it becomes harder on the electrical component this is the situation with 3 in 2

[01:32:27]   and 1/2 in 3 and 1/2 in rigs when it comes to 4S versus 6s 4S is plenty of voltage yes 6s will give you a tiny little bit more efficiency but the extra abuse that that puts on the electronics

[01:32:45]   is significant my 03 cinematic rig that I built for a cycling race for live broadcast stuff ran a couple of batteries totally fine on 4S and then I motor limited it and did all the things

[01:33:00]   to run it on 6s but the extra 6s voltage in that very first battery that I flew the ESC caught on fire so there is a point where it just doesn't make sense to do extra voltage

[01:33:17]   but until you get to that point there are definitely gains from from higher voltage and efficiency in a lot of cases Christopher black ledge says since it's winner should 1S be what one should

[01:33:29]   have for indoor absolutely hands down 1S 65 there is nothing like it 75 here's some food for thought 75mm rigs on 2S only weigh two extra Gams the Improvement in flight

[01:33:51]   performance and specifically response time makes them easier to fly in the house you shouldn't do it anyway 75mm rigs in the house will break [@$#%] and it's just too heavy it's not

[01:34:05]   it's not comfortable in the house it's like you're holding on for dear life rather than enjoying yourself but I've flown all of these 75mm 1S rigs in the house and it's really difficult I've

[01:34:17]   now flown all of these 2S rigs in the house and it's significantly less difficult because the quicker response time it's just on it's on your sticks all the time and when you

[01:34:27]   need to make a correction it's literally responds faster giving you more time to not smash into the thing that you're about to smash into but 75 millim rigs do not belong in the house

[01:34:39]   65 M rigs do it is legitimately easier to fly 65 mil rigs in the house because they're so much lighter Moss one says never mind sold out already I I did that Christopher blackl since

[01:34:54]   it's says there it is there's the package here's the rest of the video my friends I'm gonna rewind it a little bit enjoy 1,400 ft with a 65mm tiny whoop I think this is on HappyModel 072 32000 it might

[01:35:10]   have said it at the beginning of the video you isn't that a cool little edit I'm gonna copyright dinged for that I got to finish that the the I remember now the the one thing that I

[01:36:33]   wanted to change on that is and the reason I didn't I just I don't know is I wanted to leave up I sped the footage up on the climb up the up the tower and I put it in the screen for a

[01:36:49]   second and then I took it away I want to leave it up there I want it to the whole time that the that the the footage is like one and a half speed I think it was I want it to be in the corner saying

[01:36:59]   like 1.5x speed there it is this is the box I was waiting for so we don't have Wilder for the Sunday dance classes he used to bring a PA speaker I don't necessarily want to drag around a big

[01:37:18]   ass PA speaker so I did a little bit of research and there are these Bluetooth boom boxes and this one was on like Ultra super sale I hate ordering from Amazon but it was a really good price so I

[01:37:39]   snagged one of these I'm probably going to end up returning it because I completely forgot I I was looking at Pas like Pas with 8 in drivers and then I fell down this weird rabbit hole

[01:37:54]   with this thing I totally forgot I wanted to get a smaller PA because when people come over to play and play guitar they can plug into the PA this is Bluetooth only so I'm probably gonna

[01:38:10]   I realized that like a half an hour after I ordered it but whatever I'll use this for this Sunday we'll see how it is whatever but I I'm pretty sure this is going to get returned and I'm

[01:38:20]   going to get a little like $100 I I forget the brand Behringer maybe little $100 8 in PA it's the smallest little pa but I I just don't want anything massively heavy and with with drivers when you go

[01:38:38]   from like eight an 8 inch driver is when they can start to make like if you're going to do like a single driver when you hit 8 inches that's where they can actually start to get low enough in the

[01:38:50]   frequency response that you get what I consider to be actual base response 6 and 1 12 in drivers unless they're really well ported or there's a couple of them like like what's in this

[01:39:04]    they just don't the the frequency response doesn't they don't produce frequencies low enough that you get actual base out of the damn things so this is one of those

[01:39:22]   like middle of the night Rabbit Hole oh my God I found a I found a guy that actually knows what he's talking about that that says that this is good I trust him I'm going to order this before it

[01:39:39]    goes out of stock and or the double coupon thing goes away purchase if if you're looking for a if you're looking for a really good Bluetooth boom box though this is

[01:39:55]   apparently the one man ear fun uboom x I'll let how it is but I found a lot of people that actually seem to know what they're talking about that dig this it's basically

[01:40:11]   it's basically like a ghetto blaster for for 2024 Bluetooth only and it's got that I was also I've I've kind of always wanted to have a ghetto blaster and I and I got a

[01:40:25]   little bit like carried away with that like just the the the mental image of myself walking around like this here hold on let's do it let's let's do it properly let's do I I'll get

[01:40:43]   it out of my system and then I can return it and it'll be it'll be cool all right it was worth it's was worth it to have a ghetto blaster experience so Poli this sounds really

[01:41:06]   good built-in battery I'm assuming and then how's it charge oh USBC I'll be damned I can plug it right in here no I can't because the cord's not long enough that's a slap in

[01:41:20]   the tits how is this cord not longer get be longer that's what she said get there we go what did that say oh what's cool about this too if functions as a battery Bank you can

[01:41:40]   you can charge your phone from it's got USBC input and output that's really slick it's got au's headphone in as well that's kind of nice there we go all right just wanted to get that charging

[01:41:56]   because like things to be charged get get in there if you decide to buy one of these hit me up I'll give you a an affiliate link and I'll also give you the this magical like coupon code

[01:42:23]   that you can use that saves you like $30 or something it was it's almost ended up being like half price it was crazy all right back to the testing Bob Bruce says I've have some of

[01:42:42]   those rs82 HappyModel Motors thought about running them on 2S and motor limiting do it I want to do that as well I want at some point to buy a mobula 7 1s

[01:42:53]   and do a live stream easiest way to make your mobula 7 1S elrs shoot flames and just take a stone stock Mob 71s out of the box BT 3.0 maybe figure out how to make it work

[01:43:13]   in the existing frame figure out what grommets will put the aiio high enough chop the top supports off tiny whoop 300 MH 2S battery go that is a or maybe swap to the V3 frame but it's such a pain in the

[01:43:29]   ass to do the V3 frame swap because then you got to get the spacers and the longer screws could drive more people to order the screws and the spacers for my Etsy store I guess though that's

[01:43:38]   probably what I should do but neuro and FPV says I already built three 2S 85mm one with run cam thumb Pro one waiting for the os4 light very cool 2S 85mm rocks period I'm

[01:43:56]   going to do it at some point I I just I want to let 75 run its course first just another Kevin thank you again for the 25 Justin another Kevin with a $20 Super Chat he says hi Ciotti happy holidays and

[01:44:13]   then a $5 Super Chat that says happy birthday thanks man Euro says happy birthday too you too mossan says happy birthday dude my birthday's in April I don't know why I said happy

[01:44:24]   birthday before Dave gun says what size drill bit what size drill do I use to change 1 millim prop to 1.5 you don't drilling that much material out of the propeller the propeller will break

[01:44:38]   but Tech if you can get a 1.5 mm propeller if you can get a prop with a one 1.5 mm hole in it you probably still have to drill it out you can use a 1.5 mil drill bit just

[01:44:54]    run it down run it down the drill if this is the drill bit and this is the prop run it down to where the drill bit just barely sticks out of the hole in the propeller and

[01:45:07]   that's it and then take the prop out that way you don't remove too much material don't like put it through there a bunch you're just you you'll be good Coal Power says my money

[01:45:17]   going on you crashing that's the safe bet mcmas says still debating bt3 .0 versus tx30 what the hell is tx30 xt30 are BT 3.0 packs sold any else B Be besides tiny whoop I don't

[01:45:33]   think so they tend to run out of stuff for extended lengths tattoo website doesn't seem to have them no there is a significant weight savings with BT 3.0 because no balance

[01:45:46]   lead so there's that BT 3.0 is m magic it really really is you're going to want it poly shortcut says how about that newbie drone 82mm cockroach I wanted to use that for the 03 HD instead of 75

[01:46:09]   I still haven't tried them I heard from a couple people that they rattle that frame rattles like crazy apparently they give you foam to put in there to try to keep it from rattling

[01:46:23]    but I don't know about all that so I can't speak to it I mean they're cheap though so maybe give them a shot yeah STV wonder is when I leave this view on and I fly an entire

[01:46:37]   battery and you guys watch me go you guys get to watch me go like this for three minutes CMYK fbv is in the house he saysdude what's up gangly gang chonan with a $10

[01:47:04]   Super Chat thank you brother he says I knew you couldn't resist buying that module LOL well let me help offset the cost thank you dude very cool of you Dan anual 1964 says what other camera work

[01:47:13]   in what other cameras work in the mobule 6 canopy the new mobul 6 2024 camera the fxt something or other we Le sells it fxt 17-b this works in there because it has the holes up in the corners also the

[01:47:40]   the the WalkSnail light camera has the holes the only problem is with both the WalkSnail light camera and this one Canon's about to [@$#%] the bed you have to clear it PRS the the

[01:47:53]   front hole in the mobio 6 canopy it's not very hard you just sit there with a file for 20 30 minutes so little bit of customization that you need to do but other than that it's super

[01:48:04]   straightforward you can handle it this is actually a really nice camera I want to get a couple more of these cams this this might actually be the cam that I switched to we'll

[01:48:16]   see chonan says yes the V3 V4 frame is much better for my flying the V3 I run very high ya'all rates and tend to do flat spins a lot interesting super interesting I use ya'all as little as

[01:48:30]   possible Uriel says are you running veloc and Sim I have won I have often one running Uriel 777 I do run veloc drone on the Sim Sundays yep Islander FPV says planning my 2s

[01:48:48]   build and wondering if you could check the meteor 75 Pro frame could modded with battery Sports removed to fit the tiny [@$#%] 300 Mah BT 3.0 nope I already tried it can't do it also the

[01:49:02]    meteor 75 Pro frame will not work with the X12 AO so now you're forced to run the hglrc Spectre AIO and that has the battery plugs in a weird spot and then you're going to have to customize

[01:49:18]   the bottom of the it's not worth it X12 IO is the one you want and it's won't fit in any of the meteor frames but that's okay because the the mob 7 V3 frame is amazing

[01:49:36]   Uriel says John travol himself thrash FB says can we have a moment of silence for people learning to fly inside with 85 MIM whoops and There Goes YouTube way to go YouTube you giant heap of

[01:49:49]   [@$#%] I'm beginning to think that the Canon software is not as big of a problem as just YouTube wrecking the wrecking everything hold on relaunching YouTube there we

[01:50:13]   go all right I'm back agreed thrash 885mm whoops inside are going to wreck everything Lewis says do you play any veggie games just wondering veggie games what are veggie

[01:50:28]   games tag me again tell me what veggie games are daveid gunnis says good one thanks willly Summit says please do the Franken mob 7 conversion I have a new mobula 7 sitting there I will for

[01:50:39]   sure I will for sure do that because I want to run those RS Motors and I don't have a set of them lebster FPV says Hey gang gang dude nice to see you again live live again it's

[01:50:51]   hard with a six hour to see you live I know it's tough that's why I do the Sunday streams though Uriel says LOL you're bad let me know what veggie games are I don't know what veggie games

[01:51:02]   are that might that strikes me as a spell check issue video games ah okay that's just what my brothers and I say yeah I'm a PlayStation 5 guy uh gr Turismo 7 is my sim game of choice with

[01:51:28]   psvr2 and for the last year and a half or so I've been playing quite a bit of Daisy on PS5 less and less but I just absolutely love that game that's really it FPV as a full-time

[01:51:44]   thing takes a lot of time so I don't have a lot of and then living in a this giant house takes a lot of time the kidss take time so there's not really enough time in the

[01:51:57]   day to be like a super hardcore gamer like I once was I don't know if I ever really was but yeah Day Z is is my game of choice the the Sim is the Sim like is my Motorsport Outlet

[01:52:13]   it's not really video games to me it's driving but Daisy is my [@$#%] Daisy is the closest video game to like Airsoft and it's also like super relaxing I play on servers that are

[01:52:29]   PVE player versus environment so that I'm not just constantly getting shot by other players CU I can't shoot for [@$#%] and also like the game is about like relaxing and Base building and

[01:52:43]   like just chilling like making fires and surviving and stuff and so it's a it's days is how I unwind that game is just the way that I bring it down and

[01:52:58]   just actually relax for a change which is something that I desperately need in my life all right emac Avia 1.2 in propeller testing shall begin I'm going to fly one more

[01:53:14]   battery on this before I change the props cuz it's been a little bit so let's stick with these wee bed batteries because they are very very fresh and then I am going to fly a bunch of

[01:53:27]   batteries on those Avia props but I'm going to fly him with the more beat up batteries because I want to give him a little bit of a durability test so Mula 7 V3 frame 2g4 AIO mobula 6

[01:53:42]   canopy runcam nano3 micro micro V antenna RC and power 0702 29,000 HQ brand new 1.2x 1.2x two by blades you can't even buy these propellers yet you'll be able to get them very soon

[01:54:05]   though this is the same exact setup that I flew 20 30 minutes ago here we go no Stevie Wonder look at that ghetto blaster sitting under the desk just waiting to be cranked

[01:54:26]   ooh there we go [Laughter] oh runtime sucks on these motors but they certainly make some good power I don't necessarily know if they make that much more power than the

[01:54:58]    than the 40,000 KV happy models and I was thinking about that I I totally forgot to mention this so I was thinking about that after the last stream right so these motors are 29,000

[01:55:14]   KV in theory that's what they say on them we are learning that these KV measurements are way off so compared to the 40,000 KV HappyModel Motors they're actually a low KV but

[01:55:33]   when you put a propeller on them and you do a Thrust test with these motors these motors make more power now that we talk about this a lot where Motors make Power not just from

[01:55:47]   KV but from stator construction from the thickness of the magnets the strength of the magnets all that stuff and so what I need to look at actually we'll do that somebody remind me to do you know

[01:56:03]   what can somebody do this for me can you go to roster's video his most recent video with the with the tiny whoop motor testing and can you I think he tested the actual KV I didn't need to disarm

[01:56:15]   that I think he tested the actual KV can you look and see how the KV of these Motors RC and power 0702 29000 compared to the HappyModel 0702 40,000 if you're going to do that can

[01:56:33]   you type in the chat like I got it I'll do it so that there's not 15 people doing that because what might be going on here is that we know that these motors make more power

[01:56:47]   but they they're I I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually a lower KV and so in the air in the air when when you Hammer the throttle you start to get some incoming

[01:57:05]   air wow man barely over 2 minutes barely over two minutes Jesus once you have incoming air the KV is very important the the raw amount of power that the motor makes is

[01:57:20]   still important but the KV is really important because with the with the incoming air the motors unload and they have less work to do and if the motor is a higher KV and it can spin faster it

[01:57:34]   will go faster whereas like the more grunty motor it won't hit as high of a top speed and that might be what we're seeing these these RC and power motors don't really feel in the air like they

[01:57:48]   make much more power than the 40,000 KV 0702 happy mod and that might be why I really want to know though and I don't see anybody that typed that typed I'm on it so I can look it up pretty quick here

[01:58:08]   we go there we go here we go and here we go so we bleed FPV 40,000 KV Motors all all the way on top so they are absolutely even though they're they're mismarked they are absolutely the

[01:58:29]   highest RPM Motors a couple steps down are the RC and power 0702 29,000 so the red the red is no the blue is the measured KV so let's see the difference RC and power

[01:58:44]   is four steps down so there's the blue it's a pretty slight difference so it's like mle versus top and so if we scroll over 30, 35,000 so it looks like the RC and powers are in the middle so that

[01:59:04]   means 32,500 the happy models are up top that looks like 34,500 so amazing amazing amazing example here of how thrust tests do not tell the whole story these RC in power

[01:59:22]   motors make more grunt make more power these 40,000 happy models make more RPM and once this thing is traveling through the air the RPM does matter and I can't really feel a difference between these

[01:59:39]   two Motors but now we're going to put more draggy propellers onto these RC in powers and that's going to benefit these motors more than these motors this is lower KV 802 versus higher KV 702

[01:59:57]   territory that we're kind of entering into does that make sense to everybody yamur looked it up thank you dude let's see if this old school prop popper will get these sure will

[02:00:11]   perfect get yourself an old school prop popper and one of these awesome little cases from Tiny whoop and then you'll have an on the-go Prop popper

[02:00:23]   you'll have one for your bench and one for your flight bag all right hold on let me slow down here I don't want to F these motors up I cannot wait to get that clone

[02:00:38]   popper again oh it's so good there we go all right got to be patient with these prop poppers you can't rush it if you rush it you'll either Mar the [@$#%] out of the top of the motor which

[02:00:50]   like kind of who cares but you can also mangle the propeller pretty good oh come on man get under there get in there little fella pop that prop bro I knew I knew when I I I was I

[02:01:13]   was rushing to put these propellers on in the Stream I knew I was pushing a little bit too hard on him I drilled him out a lot though man oh boy I hate when that happens I really

[02:01:25]   really really hate when that happens because the tool smashes into the into the motor shaft the other massive plus of the wee bed 40,000 KV Motors is that you can Bell swap them and you can

[02:01:49]   put a bell with a 1 and a half mm motor shaft on and it's only a matter of time before we have more 1.2 in Motors props with 1 and 12 mm motor shafts it's all I'm going to give

[02:02:05]   you that is again for two streams in a row you're reward for sticking around all right emac Avia props first things first let's weigh them I should still have that spreadsheet up

[02:02:20]   from the other day with some prop weights maybe not but I know that I linked it over on patreon I didn't shill join my patreon or I'll starve to death look how skinny I already

[02:02:38]   am don't don't do it you don't want to live with that tiny [@$#%] prop testing spreadsheet linked over on the patreon uh emac Avia 1.2 inch wait oh I I didn't I didn't

[02:03:04]   log which Motors I tested them on that was kind of stupid of me I'm sure I said it on the live stream though just for the sake of argument these are the lightest weight props 0.52 of a gram

[02:03:18]   is what the props that were on it a second ago and now we're going to go to these avas that's a high left high right high right high [Laughter] low holy

[02:03:39]   [@$#%] oh my God they're twice as heavy 1.01 gam oh emac what the [@$#%] did you make these out of lead oh my God they're one gram for four of them holy

[02:03:59]   cow okay all right so these these props are not they are not going to fly great being that heavy that is what all the old school props weighed and this new crop of really lightweight

[02:04:14]   propellers have completely Chang the way that tiny whoops fly because of the Improvement in response time so this is going to be a little rough let's see how they fit so from what I remember

[02:04:27]   these motor shafts on these RC and power motors are ever so slightly thinner if like the HappyModel motor shafts are exactly 1.0 millim these are probably like .99 millim so let's see

[02:04:42]   how these props fit on here without drilling them out and they just fall onto the okay all right so emac has gone in the opposite direction which I actually kind of like apparently they've made their

[02:04:56]   motor shafts like 1.01 mm or 1.02 mm and then the inner diameter of their props is either like exactly 1 mil or it might even be like 1.01 mil

[02:05:09]    because they they literally fall onto the motor shafts I I don't think they're going to stay on these motors they would probably be well I'll try them do I have a HappyModel motor I

[02:05:24]   do so this is a HappyModel motor they're probably going to be perfect on here oh they're they're perfect on a HappyModel motor shaft but on the

[02:05:37]    on the RC and power motor shaft they are legitimately too loose and so right out of the box we're GNA have to do the little trick and the trick is to take your least favorite sharp tipped

[02:05:52]   tweezers and basically what you're doing if this is the inner diameter of the prop you're taking your sharp tipped tweezers and you're going to scrape the plastic on the inside and what that's

[02:06:05]   going to do to the flat plastic it's going to dig in but then it's going to raise here so it's going to dig that one part in but then it's going to raise these two parts here and then they're

[02:06:15]   going to grab really nicely and I know that sounds crazy but this propeller Falls onto and off of that motor shaft right now but now I'm going to do this and you do it on the top and the

[02:06:31]   bottom you got to give it some Force you got to push on it because you're literally having to dig into the plastic right so you run it around on one side run it around on the other side try

[02:06:44]   really hard not to stab yourself put oh because oh boy does it [@$#%] hurt and now this propeller will actually need to be pushed down a little bit on the motor shaft and that's what you want you want

[02:07:04]   to be able to push it have to push it down a little bit but not have to like jam it on there and we'll see that's that might go flying off but let's just put these on and see what happens

[02:07:16]    I would kind of rather have the inner diameter bigger than smaller but having to do this is super annoying admittedly the the GemFan 1210 byblade is the perfect inner diameter it is exactly

[02:07:36]   big enough but not too big I wish all of the props had that same inner diameter all right we're also going to see how well balanced these are this has a pretty aggressive pit tune on

[02:07:57]   it so much so that even on those HQ by blades that are really well balanced the first throttle stab of a battery this thing like is is oscillating just a little

[02:08:11]   bit trying to fly on away and so this is a perfect rig to test the balance of these propellers on if I and it just automatically flies away then these props are not

[02:08:26]   balanced and I'll bring the pit tune down to get them under control so that we can fly them but I got to be honest with how heavy these props are I'm they're they're not going

[02:08:41]   to give the response time that that we want that all of these new Ultra lightweight props give us I will say this though the these are probably going to be the most durable tiny whoop props maybe

[02:08:56]   ever the emac has a emac has a whole bunch of propellers that are really durable the way that they design the blade of the propeller it's just super strong especially in

[02:09:13]   towards the Hub all right another wee bed very fresh battery is going on this let's see what that what's going to happen emac Avia propellers going up in the

[02:09:33]   air and they hit the ducts let's see how bad it is when you have propellers that hit the Ducks put it into U Turtle mode and a lot of times they will self-clearance the themselves nope still

[02:09:53]   happening what is it hitting is it hitting a motor wire maybe let's get that out of the way it sounded fine when I Turtle moded it what is it

[02:10:12]   hitting okay so it's motor one that's the problem oh I see I see it I see it I see it's hitting the outside of the duct so these these propell colors are a tiny bit longer than some of the

[02:10:26]   other props now we're good but they're they're fine oh these fly like heavy props so it just it makes the rig feel heavier than it actually is wow do they make some power though wow do they make some

[02:10:46]   power though okay so on these this is probably a really other than it being so heavy this is a propeller with a lot of wow a lot of pitch and so on this motor that has a slightly lower

[02:11:03]   RPM this actually is a good a don't you dare a good example of a propeller that will perform better on the RC and power motor that makes more grunt than the oh my God

[02:11:21]   than the the 40,000 KV motor wow watch this run time though I bet it's going to kill this battery in less than two minutes because it's making all this extra power

[02:11:35]   right it's got all this extra grunt oh oh a propeller already came off so that's going to be a real problem with these props is keeping them on the motors oh my God two of them came

[02:11:54]   off holy [@$#%] can't say that's ever [Laughter] happen you can also put like a little tiny piece of dental floss but then you're you're slightly making the the prop out of balance

[02:12:14]    the the sharp tipped tweezer thing is is the best it's just sketchy because you're like about to stab yourself the whole time but it does work you're not adding any weight you're

[02:12:30]   not imbalancing anything these are well balanced that's nice so if you're looking for a durable powerful propeller this is your jam boy these motors are so grunty that the

[02:12:49]   response time is actually not that bad but I I can absolutely feel it's not something that I can show you it's a feel thing the the the response time is not really something that comes through

[02:13:02]   on video Jesus the power oh another one came off I heard it I actually heard it shoot up and smack into the ceiling let's see if I can find it oh man that's a shame that's a shame

[02:13:17]   that the oh man two of them came off again [@$#%] I found one where's the other one is it back there is it over here is it over here is it over

[02:13:35]   there where is it is it over here is it over here [@$#%] I can't find it is it over here over there no damn oh that's a super bummer oh look we're over 2 minutes though that's

[02:13:54]   a good thing that's high right here's High left let me quickly prep another one I'm GNA really Jam these tweezers in here okay the Hub is also really tall on these propellers um so much so that I

[02:14:23]   actually I can't I'm scraping the top of the of the inner of the propeller is not doing anything the the motor shaft is not going all the way through so you really only need to do this to the bottom

[02:14:41]   which also kind of means that you have to do it twice as hard on the bottom since you're only getting that one area of raised plastic all right so the runtime on this battery is a

[02:14:54]   little bit screwed because it's been sitting here just banging away on the VTX this whole time but there we go okay oh farts oh now it's angry why is it Angry whoa that was crash recovery screwing me

[02:15:21]   okay I ran this battery way too low two minutes and 30 seconds I'll be damned I be I guess there's a chance that those HQ 1.2x 1.2x two by blades are just like kind of inefficient basically

[02:15:37]    I need to prep the the propellers on the right side of this cuz they're just going to fly off again when have you ever seen me just be able to pull a propeller off like that

[02:15:52]    I'm actually surprised at how good these perform with how heavy they are I can I can absolutely tell you could you could do stuff like cranking up feed forward to make up for the for the

[02:16:07]   decrease in response time boy these make some power holy [@$#%] I think these motors with these props are a good combo which is why this performs as good as it does but

[02:16:24]   this right now what I'm doing is very annoying so I don't I don't know about this I I don't know about telling you guysgo out and buy these propellers and stab yourself in the [@$#%] fingers

[02:16:37]   with a with your sharpest tipped tweezers it also completely it's use your least favorite tweezers because it ruins the tips of the tweezers because you're the sharp tips are very weak

[02:16:51]   because they're sharp all right another battery I am shocked at that runtime shocked I tell you these props will be hard on motor shafts because the because they're so

[02:17:13]   strong I better not have bent these motor shafts already on these motors so I I give you a word of warning there the stronger a propeller is the harder it's going to be I mean that's

[02:17:28]   just [@$#%] rolls downhill right all right another one of these Weeble batteries another fresh battery I don't think we have to worry about durability with these

[02:17:41]   props between how heavy they are and what they feel like when I bend them I mean there it's just they're still not they're not so heavy that they're prop washing I mean that

[02:18:00]   these motors are very powerful and the tune is cranked up so did did you did you see me bouncing back and forth like overcorrecting that's because of the response time that's because the

[02:18:11]   response time is so different than what I'm used to I'm like pushing harder ooh that was a hard hit I'm pushing harder into these Corrections and then I'm

[02:18:22]   overcorrecting it's just about timing there there's a timing that you get very used to and then when you get out of that timing weird [@$#%] like that

[02:18:42]   happens why am I getting a core temperature warning oh what was I doing there that was weird stop going up come back down I think one of these motor shaft is bent already man this makes some power oh

[02:19:07]   [@$#%] you see if I can find it this going to get old fast it's already old oh man that's the one that I really did push hard on too damn that's a shame man I I I

[02:19:33]   don't know it's this is a pretty specific propeller it's so heavy I I I I think I'm okay with the fact that these are kind of man I hate to say it but like not really a viable propeller for the

[02:19:53]   current world of tiny whoops unless you have some really specific wants and needs basically the most durable possible propeller ever but this propeller being durable is just going to

[02:20:12]   hammer the [@$#%] out of your motor shaft so I I that's not how I would go about getting extra durability cuz I would rather replace a propeller then replace a motor cuz propellers are

[02:20:22]   really cheap right so oh there's a motor shaft bent already I can see it in the [@$#%] video God damn it ah yep that's why we're getting the core temperature War you can see it I mean I

[02:20:43]   don't know if you guys can see it see The Vibes so much for other manufacturers 1 mm motor shafts being way stronger than HappyModel it's I mean it's weird I

[02:21:00]   called [@$#%] on that and then it came true it's almost like I know what I'm talking about but I mean that couldn't be because everybody says that I don't know what I'm talking

[02:21:08]   about and that HappyModel 1 M motor shafts are just weaker than everyone else's oh those people don't fly oh [@$#%] oh those people haven't tested did any of the other ones oh that's weird how

[02:21:22]   did I mean that's that same one that right front keeps popping off that's weird I know I crash into the right front more often though that's when they're popping off they're popping off when I'm

[02:21:36]   crashing oh that was weird and it's stuck get out of there yes yes ugly oh my God I'm just just demolishing this battery all right so there's like the runtime that I would more expect from

[02:22:01]   this that first that first battery I don't know maybe I was flying a little bit less hard damn okay that's a shame that's a shame if if the inner diameter of these props

[02:22:15]   were closer to spec I would say that this is the propeller for for the person that doesn't crash because they're going to hurt the motor shafts I don't know who this propeller is

[02:22:41]   for th this propeller is for I don't know who this propeller is for I would say that this propeller is for someone that has bought the the what's this prop come

[02:23:06]   on for somebody that's bought the tiny Hawk Nano Scout but that person will get better performance from a lighter weight propeller and a lighter weight propeller will be

[02:23:24]   less abusive on the motors having a hard time with this one I can usually I can usually figure out the exact person that a product is for even if I don't like a product right I

[02:23:40]   don't like most products I have impossibly high standards but I can almost say this is a perfect product for somebody that doesn't crash well I I don't know dude

[02:23:59]   I I just don't know if you want an ultra durable propeller this is the one it makes great power for sure there are other propellers out there that are really pitchy that make great power though

[02:24:16]   there's the t- motors there's the old school gem fans they seem to be pretty efficient that first battery did run for a while that was pretty impressive so that's

[02:24:27]   cool I'm going to check if one of these motor shafts is bent to check if a motor shaft is bent flip into Turtle mode oh I wait for elrs to connect there it is flip it into Turtle

[02:24:39]   mode arm it and spin the motor up really slow and while it's spinning up as slowly as you can put your fingernail up against the motor shaft and you'll feel if it's if it's bent so motor

[02:24:57]   one is a little bit bent motor two is less bent motor 3 is a little bent I'm sorry that was motor 4 motor 3 is pretty clean it seems it's motor one that's the most bent

[02:25:17]   which is weird because that's right rear motor one is bent think motor 3 is bent too Motors one and three got a little bit bent up it happens one millimeter motor shaft life and then

[02:25:37]   crashing hard I I crashed it there were a couple hard hits on there there you go that's my review of the emac tiny Haw Nano Scout Avia 31 mm 3blade propellers

[02:25:55]   interesting prop super interesting blade profile here this is this is what makes me think that it's might be an efficient propeller I also love what they did with the Hub here like they

[02:26:06]   they integrate the the blade into the Hub rather than just like doing a round Hub and then just jamming a blade onto the side of it this the ax does this a lot it seems like they spend Sage

[02:26:20]   theer I believe is his name used to do their propeller designs and he's always done really interesting stuff this is this is a tough these are a tough sell though

[02:26:34]    the fact that they fly off the motors is going to get old fast so if you have a pusher these would work on a pusher because they push themselves up into the up into the motor Bell so these would

[02:26:46]   be good for a pusher I'm going to say these are going to be good for like a lower KV motor too because they seem to have a lot of pitch they don't tell us what the pitch is but the way that

[02:26:57]   they perform on these motors they make way more thrust than the 1.2x 1.2 by blades so an interesting propeller but unfortunately they fly off the motors and

[02:27:09]   that's even with digging the the stuff in there that's going to get annoying again you could put a little piece of dental floss the hole in the motor and then jam it down on the

[02:27:22]   motor shaft I don't like to do that but Donnie llama says what's the best 75mm frame and flight controller for a 2S build no such thing as best just different for a 2S build I like the

[02:27:38]   mobula 7 V3 the V4 also works flight controller I like the X12 for analog the 12 amp BetaFPV for digital build version three lster says I run the HappyModel X12 with RC and power 29,000 and

[02:27:57]   the Fly Nano V3 mobul 8 canopy all up weight 21.7 G chunky 65 Hot Motors after 2 minutes of flying on BetaFlight 4.4 do what filter settings I can use filter settings are dependent

[02:28:10]   upon what gyro is on there I don't know offhand what gyro is there but it's check all the mechanical systems first fresh props check the motor shafts like I just

[02:28:25]   showed you that is much more commonly going to cause that problem than a filter issue especially if your filters are roughly stock yamasa says RC and power lots of numbers HappyModel 40K oh

[02:28:41]   oh oh got it thank you yamasa yep we figured that out BMF Spade says I like the new tiny whoop milk jug prop popper I do too I asked custom FPV if he could make a bowling pin case for

[02:28:54]   that I almost ordered one of those prop poppers but I really like the Clone popper so I got one of those instead King dingling says I posted a nano camera link on Discord is this the

[02:29:03]   flywoo nanocam or nano3 with Glass Lens I don't see the link on Discord I'm in general nonsense I don't see the link oh now I just clicked something I didn't want to

[02:29:29]   click I just need that to be unread again toothpick and whoop I'm looking in the toothpick and whoop yeah I don't I don't see the link anywhere I got to keep going I'm starving I got to get

[02:30:02]   something to eat ask me message me and I'll answer Mor upshot says don't worry Teddy I'll find it it'll be in the yard or a day or so or day or so poop prop MCB says does emac use their own

[02:30:13]   proprietary motor sha size Uriel says if ever you want to set a bed for okay this is going in a weird Direction y also says the problem is you say I don't know but you do we want titanium

[02:30:30]   access titanium motor shafts would be amazing thanks for hanging friends be good here's some more chasing slot cars forgot to even talk about this I chased lot cars last night it was

[02:30:48]   wild they changed Direction outrageously quick be good friends I'll see you on Sunday at 3 later a