[00:03:35]   hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti I'm going to go back to that footage because we're already at three minutes in that footage that is the 0802 2S analog 75 that we built sort of

[00:03:52]   built talked about building the other no no no we did build this on the stream the other day it's insane it f is really as as you can probably already have seen for the last three minutes

[00:04:04]   it flies absolutely incredible and I want to play the rest of that flight file for you there's going to be a little bit of audio it's the it's the audio from the HD zero goggles one of my

[00:04:14]   favorite things about the HD zero goggles is they have a little mic plug it's a little the the audio level is a little bit low though fair warning but I'm going to play the rest of

[00:04:24]   this for you because it's awesome and you'll see why so wait hold on I got going to hit this and then we'll talk more about the the build in a second but basically this is a mobula 7 elrs

[00:04:40]   1s converted to 2S super simple build we'll talk more about it in a second audio here full screen away we go hold [Laughter] oh my God this is so good no no there's a walk being taken in this

[00:05:39]   one almost for sure or not this run time finally wow over 4 minutes of run time and it's still at 3.5 at a hover got a little bit more wow

[00:06:18]   420 unbelievable ain't that some like I was not I wasn't like hammering the whole battery but I was ripping around pretty good and it got 4 minutes and 23 seconds of runtime I do not get that

[00:06:37]   kind of runtime from the one on 102s I still get fine runtime I still get over three minutes but dude four over four minut almost four and a half minutes and it's a build that you can

[00:06:50]   kind of do as a BNF almost right like you can just get a BNF do a frame swap change the battery lead and that's it right that's like a what's the mobula 7 1S elrs cost 100

[00:07:10]   bucks mobula 7 elrs $118 like come on 118 bucks plus like 4 five for a frame and another like four or five for a battery lead dude what what is that about this exact build exactly what you just saw is

[00:07:40]   mobula 7 V3 frame old school mobula 6 canopy with runcam Nano if you buy a mobula 71s right now like this from get FPV if you do please use my affiliate link it's probably I know it's

[00:07:57]   pictured with the the Run cam nano3 but I have a feeling it's not going to come with a runcam nano 3 fair warning it'll come with a camera that that has a little bit of a little bit better

[00:08:08]   picture quality but it won't be quite as light so just fair warning there it might come with a run cam Nano 3 that'd be super awesome oh it's back ordered well your job is to find it somewhere

[00:08:21]   chat see if you can find it somewhere and let us know where it is oh crap tell me it's not like Speedy FPV who's that looks like Speedy FPV has it and it's only 116 bucks

[00:08:39]    you could all this you could also do this build with a 2g4 no you can't sorry no you can't 2 G4S are not 2S compatible this build has to use an X12 looks like AliExpress has

[00:08:51]   it okay looks like AliExpress has it if any of you guys buy this and it comes with a runcam nano 3 let me know let me know because that's interesting well maybe somebody in chat will find

[00:09:06]   it elsewhere but uh based on that mobio 71s all that really means is that mobul 6 canopy runam 93 camera whatever camera the new fxt camera that comes in the mobul 6 2024 you can buy that at

[00:09:24]   we bed and it'll work in this canopy you'll have to clearance the front of the canopy a little bit but you just sit there with a with a file and do that super simple X12 aiio all right

[00:09:36]   micro antenna not a necessity and like I said mobio 7v3 frame the specific Motors that I'm running are tiny whoop 0802 hex 0802 19000s the mobula 7 elrs 1S comes with

[00:09:57]   HappyModel tinyo Motors are made by HappyModel happy model 0802 rs82 20,000 KV Motors so I have an 85% motor limit on this maybe you do an 84% motor limit do an 80% motor limit it'll

[00:10:14]   probably have plenty of power for you the props that I had on it when I was flying that are the geman 1610 by blades there is nothing wrong with these propellers tonight we're going to dive into the HQ

[00:10:28]   1.6 6 in by blades ultr light by blades that you can now get with 1 and 1 12 mm holes in them for the RS 0802 Motors or these hex 08021 19000s that you can get from Tiny whoop the RS Motors

[00:10:46]   should perform exactly the same as these the HappyModel Motors you can swap Bells between them they really do seem to be exactly the same motor just with slightly different Bell designs you

[00:10:58]   know tiny whoop has them with with some fancy logos and whatnot on the side things but they're HappyModel Motors the Staters are Universal you should be

[00:11:07]   able to get the exact same uh it should fly absolutely identical to this other than it's a tiny little bit higher KV which you can motor limit out in the pits tab or just leave it alone run it

[00:11:18]   at 85 and you'll have a little bit more power than me absolute magic the the one the the identical build that I've got that's on t-motor 10 2 19000s it's great don't get me wrong it's flies

[00:11:33]   just as good if you want a little bit more power this is probably the way you'd go if you want a little bit more lightness the and a little bit more runtime the 802s are going to do that

[00:11:42]   for you both of these things fly absolutely outrageous it is so much fun flying these in the front and backyard these things are quiet they're safe the the guards push leaves out of the way

[00:11:54]   the guards also slow these things down a little bit which oddly makes them feel even more sort of 5 in like right like when you fly a 5- in rig you fly it in a big spot and the the pacing that

[00:12:10]   that the that that size and weight and power level of a rig the pacing of flying like a giant parking lot with that you kind of get with these in the front and behind your house which is

[00:12:23]   obviously a much smaller spot when you take the guards off and you just run like a tooth Pi in my opinion it's too fast for like out in front out behind the house it just like it covers too

[00:12:36]   much ground and it and you can't like interact with the little stuff you can't like power Loop the little tiny Bush you can but it's a lot harder right with the guards it's less aerodynamic but then

[00:12:49]   we've got enough power to kind of overcome that so when you flatten out it really does slow down and it lets you like actually it makes the space feel a lot bigger than it is so in

[00:12:59]   your front yard like you saw me doing you can actually weave in and out of like this bush to that bush to this flower pot to that flower pot with the guards removed it's ju it's just not

[00:13:12]   only is it faster but it doesn't Corner as well when when you turn this thing to the side you've got all this garbage to slow it down and so what that means is that when you're coming towards a gap

[00:13:25]   and you want to like link a couple gaps together it's just more accurate this flies like a scalpel in comparison when you're flying it small like this if you're building something to fly like

[00:13:37]   down the street and then like between a set of trees that are 10 ft apart and then back down the street and then between another set of trees that's 15 ft apart this is not necessarily the way

[00:13:48]   to do that now you want like a toothpick a 3-in rig no prop cards but for flying small and really making a small spot feel a lot bigger oh my God this is so much fun and for me it this is

[00:14:02]   the rig out in front of the house behind the house the prop guards also keep the branches and the blades of grass from pushing up against the propeller and forcing you to have to take the Walk

[00:14:13]   of Shame over and over and over again when you crash this thing you guys saw me in a 4minute battery crash a bunch and not take the Walk of Shame a single maybe I did once but what

[00:14:24]   I'm saying right like flying a small build with no prop guards outside you for me I'm constantly taking the walk of shame maybe you just don't crash maybe you don't crash because of that because

[00:14:37]   it's annoying to have to walk and get it over and over again maybe something like this will make you push a little bit harder which is where you get better as a pilot to be honest with you pushing

[00:14:46]   yourself a little bit beyond your limits right to see what's actually possible because you're not having to constantly walk out in the cold or the hot or whatever maybe you're just lazy like me

[00:14:57]    to go get the damn thing I I'm just like as as blown away as I was once 65mm rigs got onto 07 02s that were like really high KV as as as like excited as I was and as how amazing that was

[00:15:17]   that's where I'm at with this like and it took a while right like 65mm rigs inside the house with brushless motors it took a while to get them to the point where like the power to rate ratio was

[00:15:27]   really dialed in um and I that's kind of what just happened I think with with these bumping up to 2S I wish I'd listen to the people that what's really funny is they've

[00:15:43]   had 2S 75 somebody reminded me of this they've had 2S 75mm rigs for a long time but they were just kind of under the radar I don't know I one as what it was it was kind of a pain in the

[00:15:58]   ass with xt30 and balance leads and it legitimately is a lot heavier and it's harder to mount the batteries now we've got these brilliant little tiny whoop oh God that's the part

[00:16:08]   of the build that I forgot I'm so sorry tiny whoop 2S 300 Mah batteries with the BT 3.0 leads the BT 3.0 really cleaned this up and it saves about like five or six grams would be my guess and the

[00:16:22]   battery fits in here it doesn't come shooting out of there it's the right size you don't have giant xd30 leads looping all over the place and so unbelievable unbelievable flight

[00:16:36]   performance from these little things if you want to fly in smaller spaces with something that just has the grunt on tonight's live stream we are going to be really diving into the HQ ultralight

[00:16:48]   1.6 byblade now that it has the 1 and 12 millimeter hole I I kind of fell in love with this propeller with the 1 mm hole version of this propeller when it came out a few months ago maybe like

[00:17:02]   six months ago but the problem was with a 1 M it was only available in 1 mm propep hole and on these 75mm rigs they're heavy enough regardless if they're 1S or 2S they're heavy enough

[00:17:21]   that they're so abusive on 1 mm motor shaft Motors that like the way that I fly crashing a lot it's the motors become totally unreliable unlike every bunch of crashes you're bending up a

[00:17:34]   motor shaft and it just it's just super annoying very recently and I actually missed it you guys told me about these they started making these props with the 1 and a half millimeter hole

[00:17:48]   in them which is super super super exciting the only thing I'm worried about is that these will be like the 40 so these are 40 mm right regular old 1.6 in prop for the 75mm frames 75

[00:18:06]   mm is motor to motor not the prop diameter 75 millim equates to like 2 and2 in right these are 1.2 in props but they're four 75mm tiny whoops super confusing but

[00:18:22]    there's a 45mm version of this prop for the meteor 75 Pro and they came out a few months ago and they completely wake up the the 75 Pro the the BNF the the BetaFPV meteor 75 Pro bind and fly

[00:18:46]   with the 45mm ultr light HQ props is unbelievably good but the propellers are a little bit fragile and they break at The Hub and what I notice about these so now we've got H that's not a problem I

[00:19:08]   haven't seen that as much of a problem with the 1 mm shaft 40 mm by blades ultra light by blades but again the motors with the 1 mm shaft it ends up breaking them what I'm worried about is

[00:19:23]   it's doesn't look like they've made the Hub any bigger between the 1 mm shaft version and the 1 and a half MIM shaft version and this this Hub looks it's the same size

[00:19:38]   as the Hub that's on the the 45mm version of this prop and so I'm worried that this Hub on these new props is going to be a little too fragile but the 75 Pro uses a much bigger frame a much

[00:19:55]   heavier frame not much heavier 5 mm 5 mm bigger prop so maybe the reduction in weight for these smaller ones and the reduction in weight of the builds will mean that these are not

[00:20:10]   fragile the GemFan 1610s are great and they're pretty much indestructible so if you want the indestructible prop it's these if you want the better performing prop if you want the race car in the red

[00:20:26]   it's these and you're going to sacrifice a little bit durability for flight performance how much durability are we going to sacrifice I'm going to start flying these I just got them they just showed

[00:20:37]   up from Tiny whoop and so tonight I'm going to put these I've got the rig that cloud Hopper very generously built and sent me I've got another 1S 75mm rig on 33 so this is

[00:20:53]   on 36,000 KV 802s this is on 33,000 KV 802s these are both 1S rigs so these are going to be the lightest well not the actual lightest these are the second lightest the actual lightest rig that

[00:21:04]   we're going to put them on well we're going to put the one millimeter versions on them of them on the this BetaFPV sent me this meteor I'm sorry air 75 thank you BetaFPV very cool of you

[00:21:18]   and so we're going to put the 1 mm version on this I've been flying this as they sent it which is on the GemFan 1610 by blades nothing wrong with these but tonight we're going to put this

[00:21:32]   on I've been waiting to put this onto the ultral light so we'll do that and I'm going to fly these before and after so that we can take a look at like what RPM they turn and I'll tell you you

[00:21:45]   know like this rig really benefits from this prop this rig doesn't we've got a bunch of different builds here with different with different at different all up weights with different KV Motors

[00:21:57]    they're pretty much all 802s other than the 102 2S rig but they're all different KVs we got some 1S we got some 2S and I'm going to before and after all of these so we got a lot of

[00:22:10]   flying to do tonight so do me a favor if you've got like a burning burning burning question by all means ask it and we'll talk through it but if you can and you're thinking about tagging me

[00:22:21]   in the chat maybe don't tonight so that we can get through flying as many of these as possible if that's what you want to see if you don't care about that and you just want to get your question

[00:22:29]   answered I can't control you but we got a lot of flying to do tonight because I want to do before and after before and after before and after right before and

[00:22:43]   after and then this is the 102 rig maybe this is the one that we don't get to that's okay but I really want to go through these four and rip them a much I got the batter's charged I

[00:22:55]   got everything ready to go yeah there's a situation brewing in this house that might require this I don't know I doubt that it'll require this live stream I doubt that it will affect

[00:23:09]   this live stream in any way tonight but I bought over on Tiny whoop I was doing an order to get these props and I saw this awesome little thing 5in Beach ball for whoop soccer

[00:23:28]   right little tiny beach ball and I was like oh that's super cool for three bucks done I can run into it fired across the room it'll be hysterical this is what's left of

[00:23:46]   said beach volleyball the worrying part is that the little nipple that you blow this thing up with right that goes up here sorry I wasn't pointing the camera right the the the nipple part right that

[00:24:05]   you blow up that goes up here we can't find it and so I think that little ate it I did what I did find though I did find the little part the the little plug part that

[00:24:25]   little thing comes up and then it's got the little the little part like this and then it's got the plug that that goes into that I found that little plug that little clear plug but I can't find

[00:24:38]   the rest of it and what really worries me is if you think about that piece right it's got like the thing if you think about that piece it's like a plug what I mean if you were going

[00:24:50]   to like plug if you were going to plug the dog's intestines up with it that would be about the right size to do it so I'm super freaked out but maybe it's just some maybe we

[00:25:09]   just haven't found it we looked for it for like 10 minutes we looked everywhere for it so I don't know I I Googled it a bunch and the consensus is like they'll probably be

[00:25:24]   fine what I was really my initial thought was like should we give should we like induce vomiting so that he throws it up rather than him trying to push it through his intestines

[00:25:36]   right although like with dogs and cats right they're just a straight shot they're not like us with intestines that do this they're just a tube it just goes in their mouth and then it

[00:25:45]   just fires right out their butthole so should be fine but I wanted to Ram into it and see it fly across the room although what I'm realizing is that firsters view ramming into it you

[00:25:58]   don't get to see it fly across the room you smash into it the tiny whoop goes flying and it would be fun line of sight it wouldn't necessarily be fun so but I

[00:26:07]   whatever that's fine all right I'm super super super backed up on chat render was first doubles FPU is next Cole Powers neuron FPV danz the terrible David forf Curtis HG Tony and Northern Tier Stephen for

[00:26:27]   elements danzil the Terrible Frank Nicholas fre lojo Morton upshot Curtis Hayes chonan Douglas 6 dve s demo FPV you want if you want me to read your name and we have a busy live stream you

[00:26:39]   got to come in early and say something look it's an Apple Watch my dad gave it to me it's his old Apple watch I've finally I've finally entered into the 20th

[00:26:52]   century oh no I'm being told that we're in the 21st century they've confirmed it we're in the 21st century oh well someday got to have goals got to have

[00:27:15]   goals okay thanks so there's that hold on I got to bury this in the in the in the garbage can he's been going into the garbage can and trying to eat stuff so anything that I deem to be

[00:27:38]   tasty which obviously he considered that to be tasty I have to now bury in the in the damn thing in the place in the garbage can in the garbage can how you guys

[00:27:52]   doing lot of flying to do again if you have a burning question by all means but if possible save your questions Andor just tagging me cuz that's what gets me hung up in chat for

[00:28:06]   Friday's live stream cool makes sense the enzel the terrible says CFB needs a new catchphrase how about oh nope I'm not gonna say it chonan says yes yes they are I wonder what I was talking

[00:28:16]   about at 957 I wasn't talking about anything I hadn't started the live stream yet chonan says those batteries will bounce back like2 volts if you just hover for 15 15 seconds

[00:28:29]    yeah I mean that that's tiny batteries right like these tiny little 300 MH cells this is why forever I've been saying that if possible you always want to use a battery that's minimum of

[00:28:41]   450 milliamps batteries smaller than 450 milliamps regardless if they're 1S 2S 6s they sag like crazy the the 450 milliamp pouch that they use to make these batteries is like

[00:28:58]   where it's like the smallest size to get like sagf free performance I guess you could say going below that number for these ultr light batteries you end up with a pack

[00:29:10]   that has significantly more sag that's why we don't get very much of a lifespan out of these little batteries right like we charge and dis charge these 300 MH batteries what 30 40 times before you

[00:29:26]   start to really be able to notice the performance uh change I've got 4S 850 batteries that I've cycled 100 times and they're completely fine they perform just like a fresh one and so with

[00:29:40]   these smaller than 450 Mah cells we're pushing them really really really hard and the way that you can see that is that wild difference in their voltage when you're nose down charging

[00:29:52]   around versus when you flatten out and hover and so one of the ways ways that you make a battery last longer is you don't overd discharge it they don't like to be run down to like 3.1 volts

[00:30:08]   3 volts and but because we're sagging these things so much when we're flying around right that becomes a problem and so that that is where me hovering and the battery being at 3.5 volts and

[00:30:24]   me coming be that being my come in and land that's where that's coming from if if I'm hovering and it's at 3.5 when I'm nose down charging around it's at like 3.2 3.3 and that's my cut off

[00:30:39]    you can run these batteries all the way down to 2.8 and get an extra 15 20 seconds of runtime but that's really hard on those batteries and then they don't bounce the other thing that's nice about land about

[00:30:50]   3.5 at a hover land unplug it is that that battery will bounce back up to like 3.8 right it's like a three or so volt sag that you'll notice right so when you're hovering at 3.5 3.4 3.3 3.2

[00:31:04]   there's that3 drop and 3.2 is where supposedly from what I've heard from people that know batteries that's lower than 3.2 is where the a lot of the damage starts to occur so there you go

[00:31:16]   little bit of Battery tech for you I've got a bunch of 450s ready to go fresh off the charger and these are good fresh 450s not ones that I've pounded get out of there dog why are you getting

[00:31:31]   ninjja all of a sudden are you unhappy are you trying to end it all what are you up to why are you why are you like this why are you so good what are you going to eat from in

[00:31:53]   there what's the plan here Teddy cost us a bunch of money in surgery from eating something that's like a literal intestine plug look at me when I'm talking to you please thank

[00:32:12]   you all right is this good is this what you guys come here for over on seatt fv.com there's lots of ways that you can support Teddy's vet bill Teddy upcoming vet bill

[00:32:31]    sure wish the internet would work that would be just Grand while I'm waiting for that I just watched Chef for the fourth or fifth time and I had the pleasure of uh playing it for

[00:32:49]   Maggie and she watched it and fell in love if you have not seen this movie Just you can go I I got got nothing on this movie shut this nonsense off and go watch Chef you can watch

[00:33:03]   this again this is more important this is one of my favorite movies of all time it is just brilliant so John favro fell in love with Roy choy's real life story which and this is

[00:33:22]   based on that kind of loosely based but I'm not going to ruin it for you it's a great story all I'm going to tell you is Roy Choy is kind of responsible for the Gourmet Food

[00:33:36]   Truck scene existing and this movie kind of looks at how that happened so John favro fell in love with Roy Troy story I believe he wrote he obviously starred in it and

[00:33:52]   directed this movie great cast Scarlet Johansson h h Sophia vagara John le John leguisamo Robert Downey junr Jr awesome cast great acting great story great music one of my favorite

[00:34:10]   soundtracks like of all time phenomenal music in this movie holy it's just it's so good so so so good you can watch it for free on Pluto with commercials I actually bought it for

[00:34:25]   $6 on Apple TV something that I really do that I need to do more we need to support these people that make these that make art there's a couple other spots you

[00:34:37]   can you can buy it but the only spot to watch it for free is Pluto with commercials yeah you can buy it on Prime don't do that get Apple TV support apple rather than I'm done with

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[00:39:04]   just another Kevin FPV with a $5 Super Chat thank you so much brother chonan no we got that Denzel the terrible says I'm waiting on all the components for a ab7 build good to here it's rocking your

[00:39:14]   world you're going to dig it dude BMF Spade says HD zero has H oh oh oh I forgot I forgot I forgot I forgot I'm so sorry I forgot the 2 mm tall Motors of okay not all the 2mm tall Motors the HappyModel

[00:39:31]   0 802s possibly the BetaFPV 802s maybe not but maybe the RC and power 102s the t-motor 102s so most 2mm tall Motors are not quite tall enough for this mobula 7 V3 frame and so you will have to run motor

[00:39:59]   risers unfortunately I have them on my Etsy store no I don't I will have them on my Etsy store as soon as I can if you absolutely need them right now just message me and it's fine we'll take care

[00:40:11]   of it all my contact info is on C fv.com I have the motor spacers unfortunately I I ordered the the right screws but the eBay company that I ordered them from sent me the wrong ones

[00:40:23]   so I don't have the right screws the screws that you need are m1.4 by4 I'm going to type it into the chat m1.4 by4 that's what you need you can get them from eBay maybe they won't send

[00:40:37]   you the wrong ones they sent me the m1.6 by4 I do have them on the way they are coming the the proper well I just ordered another set of m1.4 by4 is from a different person on eBay hopefully

[00:40:49]   they're the right ones hopefully they send the right ones this time that's what you need because this Frame the ducts are deeper and you'll be fine until you use Turtle mode when you use

[00:41:01]   Turtle mode without these motorizer the tips of the prop what that might not be a problem with these tonight we are investigating if the HQ ultral lights have the same

[00:41:14]   problem as the GemFan 1610s I can tell you that the GemFan 16 1610s have the problem when you go to Turtle mode it gets hung up on the on the support of the duct you could get in there with

[00:41:26]   a file and there's all kind of that you could do to make that problem go away but I like to try to have these things be like basically bolt-on like like car with cars right like bolt-ons

[00:41:37]   intake exhaust stuff that you can easily do without tearing the whole engine down right cams are not bolt-ons unless it's an LS motor then they almost are they kind of still aren't though but

[00:41:48]   I try to have my builds be bolt-on builds so that it's not a total pain in the ass if you lose it or when you start crashing it and breaking it right I want them to be very easy to repair that way

[00:41:59]   you spend your time flying rather than customizing and also like when they're Bolton you fly them hard because it's whatever you can just unplug the motor unscrew it and swap it

[00:42:10]   out when you smash it into the fourth story whatever so I forgot about the motorizer I do apologize for that the BetaFPV 1102 is taller and it's a great motor and they make it in 18,000 KV and

[00:42:26]   you will not need the motorizer which is pretty cool maybe with these HQ ultral lights we won't need the motorers we'll we'll see there you

[00:42:38]   go BMF Spade says hd0 has a mobula 71s with the ao5 and HappyModel rs82 25,000 KV Motors so as long as that ao5 will take 2S which I don't know whe let's look it

[00:42:54]   up hd0 a io5 we might as well just look it up and then I can tell you confidently whether or not you can do a 2S build with that I'll I'll bet that it will not take 2S I'll bet that it's 1s

[00:43:08]   only we might have looked it up the other night 1S Battery okay so never mind you cannot convert that build into a 2S rig the only 2S aiio that I know of right now that have elrs and a VTX built

[00:43:24]   in which makes this the simplest easiest most amazing build are the HappyModel X12 which is the one that I recommend and the hglrc Spectre those two aios are what I have on each one of these two s

[00:43:41]   builds I don't even know which one is which it doesn't matter because they both just work the Spectre aiio the hdlc Spectre AO is more of a pain in the ass they change the plug positions and

[00:43:53]   the plugs hit the frame which is super annoying it's an easy fix you take a file you figure out where it's hitting you file away the plastic it's not the end of the world but also the hglrc

[00:44:02]   Spectre ceramic antenna is in a position that will absolutely break off when you start crashing it not the end of the world when it breaks off you just get a little piece of tuned length wire and

[00:44:13]   you solder it to one of the four pads I've shown you how to do that on these live streams but the X12 doesn't have any of that you slap it in you solder on the BT 3.0 connector and you

[00:44:25]   start flying and I trust HappyModel way more than hglrc I've had a really rough time with hglrc products over the last eight years this is the first one of their products that I can legitimately say

[00:44:39]   that it has worked for me I haven't tested a lot of their product project products because after the first like half a dozen blew up on me I was like nope no more so if you can do

[00:44:52]   the build with an X12 that's what I recommend Islander FP PV says have you flown a lightweight 75mm R 1S on a 300 MH battery I have the battery life is awful which is what turns me

[00:45:07]   off the the 450s give me just barely enough runtime where I'm like kind of happy with it 2 minutes or less of runtime is just not enough it's also really hard on the battery if you're

[00:45:21]   discharging a battery from a high volt batter battery from 4.35 down to 3 .5 where it's sagging down to like 3.2 in less than 2 minutes you are getting that battery very hot

[00:45:34]   and that puts a lot of damage into that battery and I don't I try to not have the batteries be like performing like ass after 20 Cycles that's annoying I want you

[00:45:47]   guys to get more lifespan out of them because that's it's just kind of silly to do that going from a 450 the 300 saves about 4 gram all up that's what I like about the 300 MH batteries but I

[00:46:01]   just can't get Can't Get Enough runtime out of them and closes the performance Gap with 2S a lot makes it a fair comparison too it does not there is no comparison to the power

[00:46:13]   level that we get from and the efficiency that we get from these 2S rigs right we are doubling the voltage that is a huge deal the the giant increase in performance with 5in rigs

[00:46:25]   when we went from 4S to six 6s that is only going up 50% with the voltage right 4 to 6 this is doubling the voltage and so the amps come way under control we have lots of motor options with

[00:46:40]   shitloads of KV and just tons of power it is 2S on 75 is absolutely the way to go I have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours experimenting with different 1S 75mm setups over the last couple of

[00:46:56]   years and absolutely nothing can touch these with a 10-ft pole this gives you like you'll see when when you guys do it you'll see when you do a similar build to one of these you will not believe it

[00:47:09]   it is the 0702 high KV 655mm rig for outside it's that same level of like oh my God this has this has proper power now not like oh this is okay like I this flies pretty good it's it's

[00:47:27]   like no this rips and it's and the the the response time is the thing that makes it flyable we're going to fly this in the house tonight it's act and you're going to see it's actually easier for me

[00:47:38]   to fly the slightly heavier 2S rigs in the house because the response time is so much better from that higher voltage from the much more powerful Motors it is wild I hate that I've poured all of

[00:47:54]   this time and effort into trying to get 1S 75mm to a point where I was totally happy with it I hate to just throw that all away and go in on 2S like this but these are so good that I am and it

[00:48:09]   like pains me to kind of do that but what I mean I'm not like tiny whoop is not sending me money for for Shilling these batteries I get nothing from this but they're just that good

[00:48:25]   that like I want you guys to be buying this because this is insane and none of the 1S setups will do this without major compromises like runtime right basically what we found is

[00:48:36]   that in order to get the power to weight ratio where we want it with 1 s 75s you get two minutes or less of runtime that hammers the hell out of the batteries and it's just annoying it is annoying to

[00:48:48]   have to stop Flying every 2 minutes 3 minutes is where it's at a little bit more than 3 minutes is really really nice four 4 minutes on this 802 rig I don't really care about that as long as

[00:49:00]   I can get like 3 to 3 and a half minutes that's enough time to get warmed up to get in the flow and to start having a really really good time sometimes like four or five minutes I start to kind of

[00:49:11]   get tired and I start to fly worse from like a minute to a minute and a half to like 3 to 3 and 1/2 minutes that's when like all the magic is kind of happening for me I'm warmed up I'm in it I stopped

[00:49:24]   thinking about the rig and I'm just flying around and that is the magic of FPV for me and I think a lot of you guys so 2S is the way my friends Striker says what do you think of a theoretical

[00:49:39]   75 Pro setup for two two minutes I think no 75 Pros do not get you any extra runtime because the frame is way heavier and you've got to put a heavier more powerful motor

[00:49:53]   on it the prop is heavier right the prop is more draggy and then you're just running these 450 Mah batteries the the 75 Pro you get the runtime by going up to a 550 mAh battery

[00:50:05]   but they're way heavier and then you lose the flight performance so a 75 Pro as I've going up to well oh I'm sorry you said going up to 2S wait no no no that you're still

[00:50:18]   talking about 1S a 75 Pro on 2S it's just kind of extra heavy for no reason the these 75s are perfect you don't need more runtime right we're getting plenty of runtime you don't

[00:50:30]   need more weight you don't need more power these have plenty of power motor limiting remoto limiting these to like 80% 85% if you want more power crank it up to 100% you'll have more than enough

[00:50:40]   power so I've I've been down that road with the 75 Pro months ago and fly is great but it's just it's nowhere near it's nowhere near this good this is outrageous the 75 Pro

[00:50:57]   though is as close as you can possibly get to this that's the best flying 1S 75 that I've ever built but it's still not good enough oh you didn't mean 2 minutes you meant 2S I just talked about that

[00:51:14]   it's you don't need it you don't need it to be extra any heavier than these this is the sweet spot right here unless you want to go faster yeah if you want to go faster 75 Pro on 2S will make

[00:51:28]   more power bigger props make more power you're going to have to run a bigger motor the 1102 is probably still the perfect motor and it's going to fly great but this will be lighter

[00:51:37]   and lighter is going to Corner better and it's going to shrink more and so this will be much more accurate in the tight little spaces and that's what you've got in in your front and

[00:51:47]   backyard the 75 Pro is going to be just harder to fly in those tight spaces but it's going to be better to fly like bombing up and down the street but if you're bombing up and down the street

[00:51:58]   build a toothpick that's even better for that the 75 Pro is in this on to us is going to be in this weird area of that the 2-in tiny whoops are in where it's like why like if you've got a giant

[00:52:13]   front yard and a giant backyard okay cool that that maybe that's the spot to be in 2 in or 75 Pro but these would probably perform to just crank the the camera angle up on these a

[00:52:30]   little bit and maybe put like a four a 2S 450 on them you could probably make this work right I would always I would always rather have the build be a little bit smaller and then to stretch

[00:52:41]   to fly the build a little bit bigger than to have the build be too big and then fly because then flying it smaller is much more difficult taking a smaller build a lighter smaller build and

[00:52:52]   then flying it bigger just means you turn the camera angle up a little bit and you maybe strap a bigger battery onto it taking a bigger build and then trying to strap a smaller battery onto

[00:53:03]   it you nuke the battery and your runtime sucks so it's usually better to have something that's either exactly the right size or a little bit too small than too big make

[00:53:16]   sense also then you can fly the damn thing inside a 75 Pro you don't want to fly inside it's big it's heavy it will break Striker also says I've

[00:53:28]   beginning into toothpicks now the drift feeling is essential for my stick bang style feels much better than a whoop I can do vany Ros and juicy flicks and have actual momentum I hate stick

[00:53:37]   bang flying I think it's the cancer of FPV but whatever makes you guys Happy do it Striker also says out of everything my worst Pro apparently Striker didn't hear me say guys I got a

[00:53:49]   lot of flying to do if you can hold your your tags of me hold on to them until Friday out of everything my worst problem is whoops have no backwards M because of that it's true yep they

[00:54:00]   are scalples they are they are going to shoot all the tight little gaps but if you're just going to like go into an empty field and just flip and flop all over the place they're not for that for

[00:54:09]   sure Kevin J just another Kevin with a $3 Super Chat thank you so much brother nickb says could you do the modification on a V4 frame and then Mount the X12 upside down to get the USB

[00:54:19]   out of the way would that allow enough room for the battery maybe but I hate mounting these things up upside down you've now got the motor plugs sticking up it's just it's ugly it's

[00:54:32]   annoying also you've got to worry about the motor plugs hitting the canopy you've now got to pick a canopy that's somehow going to clear the motor plugs I can tell you that the mob 6 canopy will

[00:54:41]   not clear the motor plugs and then it's like oh well I'll just direct solder the motors well now you don't have quick unplugg Motors so when you crash it you have to desolder the motors to really do

[00:54:51]   that the right way you've got to take this thing apart because damn well you're going to accidentally touch the plastic and melt it and now you don't fly the rig as hard because it's a

[00:55:01]   pain in the ass to swap the motors out because you got to take the whole thing apart right so the X12 is not easily going to be flipped you're just not going to do it you're not going to

[00:55:11]   flip it upside down you got the USB port sticking up and now you got to take the canopy off every time you want to plug into the USB port maybe you could flip it upside down and turn it

[00:55:23]   sideways you can't do that without flipping it upside down because the motor plugs will be in the way of the battery if you turned it 90 degrees and flipped it upside down the motor plugs

[00:55:38]   would still hit the canopy so you'd still have to go on some weird canopy hunt yeah no flipping these aios upside down is is a tremendous pain in the ass you got your USB port

[00:55:50]   sticking up like what if you hit something and the USB port is there right you want that protected you break the USB port off your that AO is done that's $ 60780 gone so the

[00:56:00]   whole flipping it upside down thing is not a realistic thing in my opinion you you could probably find rubber grommets that are so the reason the reason Mick is asking this is that the

[00:56:13]   mobula 71s comes in the mobula 7 V4 frame which doesn't have the ducts as deep and so the motors sit up higher and so you don't need the motor riser and you can run regular Hardware but the

[00:56:30]   problem with the V4 frame is it's designed for 1S you can cut the upper battery supports out of those frames and they will fit this battery perfectly but the problem is you've now tucked the

[00:56:44]   battery up too close and the battery hits the USB port so if you get really tall rubber gromets you can lift the AIO up far enough where the battery won't hit the USB port anymore but now you

[00:56:56]   have a durability problem because you've lifted the AIO up so high that the posts the PO the four posts on the frame that the AO slides down onto they become a lot

[00:57:09]   weaker when you do that and so now you have a rig that's not nearly as durable and when those posts break you have to take the whole goddamn thing apart to swap it into a new frame and that's just

[00:57:19]   super annoying and now you've again got a rig that's you don't fly hard because it's super annoying because you just broke those posts again can you tell that I've been through all of

[00:57:30]   this I know all this because I've lived this the last the last year this year 2024 has kind of been the year of trying to get these 75s anywhere near as good as

[00:57:43]   65s and I've learned a lot I've made a lot of mistakes I've learned a lot and I love being able to tell you guys all of this so that you don't have to pull your hair out

[00:57:57]   doing all of this yourself you can just build the awesome rig and have a good time flying that process is very timec consuming and it can be very expensive so you guys

[00:58:08]   supporting me by doing things like joining my patreon and maybe going up a tier in the patreon is how I can continue to do that thank you for all that you beautiful bastards do Curtis

[00:58:19]   Hayes says I saw someone on YouTube had moved the hd0 ao5 to a meteor Pro frame and not sure what motors but but he says it flies really great any chance we can get you to cook up a A5 recipe

[00:58:33]   it's already done for you it's the the biggest Motors that you can get the 1102s in 22,000 KV for 1S and that's it that's a super simple build I mean I don't

[00:58:47]   fly the 65mm hd0 ao5 build that I have very much because it's just it's a what it I might as well hold on is the same thing going to happen if I do that

[00:59:04]   I don't fly the 65mm one because the analog rigs are way more fun to fly in the house because they're they're like four grams lighter and the Improvement in video quality doesn't necessarily

[00:59:17]   matter inside because there's no scraggle inside but outside there is scraggle and so yes that is the thing to do with your there we go good call my friend did everybody follow that I I I took

[00:59:30]   I took a jump there I I jumped on you guys I have not been flying this it flies great it's on HappyModel we bed 0702 40,000 KV Motors it's got the power but the vi the slightly better

[00:59:48]   than analog but not nearly as good as WalkSnail video quality it's not good enough to be a little tiny cine whoop and it's too heavy to be a ripping analog rig so I

[00:59:59]   never end up flying it inside the better video quality also doesn't matter right I know where the coffee table is like being able to see the coffee table better doesn't mean that I'm not going

[01:00:11]   to hit's I hit's because I suck watch that shame friends and so this just very the only time this gets flown is when you guys say can you fly the hd0 A5 in the house I

[01:00:25]   want to see how flies outside the better qual the better camera quality will let me see scraggle and play up in that tree I love going up in the tree branches and weaving and out of them so

[01:00:37]   the ao5 as far as I'm concerned is best in either a 75mm frame or the 75 Pro frame the 75 Pro build for 1S is the best 75mm build that I've ever flown and so BetaFPV thank you for sending me the

[01:01:02]   extra black frame with the with the new meteor 75 Pro with the Matrix board that we took out of and did the live stream the other night right thank you for sending me the extra 75 Pro frame I'm

[01:01:22]   going to use it for this hd0 ao5 build yep good call Brother it'll just drop right out of here I'll take leave the motors in this Frame unplug the motors pop four

[01:01:39]   screws out drop it in here put a set of what's even better I actually don't need this extra frame this is my extra frame because I don't have an extra 75 Pro frame but look at

[01:01:52]   this it's sitting on the floor if you guys remember the last time you saw my 75 Pro build was when the second VTX burned out this is the old school meteor 75 Pro with the old school canopy

[01:02:10]   VTX camera setup this VTX this BetaFPV VTX is apparently not very durable because I've blown two of them up within like 20 batteries on this build and so I just pull this apart pull this

[01:02:24]   camera and canopy off it put in a drawer whatever this is a perfectly good cross style BetaFPV aiio which I use on the 65mm WalkSnail builds it's the perfect AO for those so this will be a

[01:02:39]   spare BetaFPV AO and then I'll take this Frame which already has the black and red 1102 22,000 KV Motors and the HQ ultral light 45mm props on it and I will just swap one into the other

[01:02:57]   and now you guys know what the Friday live stream will be if I can remember for if for Christ's sake if I don't remember that somebody somebody remind me I'm putting it in the on Deck Circle

[01:03:06]   which is where I put good ideas that I have that I want to try to remember cool good call Brother what is this nonsense I gotta put this stuff away I got a little bit

[01:03:22]   of a mess starting here this is the season though Mark gfv says just thinking for people who don't want to get into BT 3.0 for 75 mimer if they're just using analog they can use xt30 and a 380 mAh

[01:03:36]   battery right technically yes but the that is that setup right there is probably going to be like damn near five grams heavier and it does matter it absolutely does matter the these two

[01:03:52]   102s 802s they're only two G different I think it's a little bit less than two gram different this 802 lighter weight rig in between those bushes oh dude it's this on the 102s it's totally fine but

[01:04:09]   like in those bushes you guys saw it at the beginning of live stream it's a it's a scalpel it is a scalpel let me let me weigh it actually yeah let me weigh it

[01:04:20]   compared to the watch this watch this so 75 Pro ever so slightly heavier than stock because of the true RC Singularity antenna but the the whip antenna that comes with is too long and

[01:04:34]   it gets mangled by the props so if you're going to have an old school 75 Pro this is the ultra this is the antenna you want it's the ultra short Singularity this with a battery we

[01:04:44]   got to do it with battery is 43 12 gram all up all right 43 and half gram best flying 1S 75mm rig in my opinion what did I say the weight was a 43 and a half 43 and a half right to get

[01:05:03]   the best flying 1 s75 802 with the 300 Mah 2S battery 39.9 call it 40 grams so it's actually lighter even with the 102s ah 40 2.2 G with the 102s so they're literally lighter and they have more

[01:05:31]   power and significantly more runtime than the 75 Pro and then if you want to compare it to like a slightly lighter weight 75 that does not fly as good as the 75 Pro because you just can't get

[01:05:42]   enough power out of these with a 450 mahh battery it is going to be lighter of course 36. not call it 37 gr right so yes this is lighter but you can't get the power can't get the power out of out

[01:05:57]   of the regular 40 mm propped 1.6 in propped 75s and you'll see that tonight if if we can if we if I can ever get caught up on the chat and start flying if you have a burning question

[01:06:10]   feel free to ask it but try to save him for Friday because I got a lot of flying to do it's oh my God it's already 10 after 11 Jesus Nick Hayes says any experience with TBS tiny hold on let me just make

[01:06:21]   sure I I covered Mark G's whole comment just thinking people don't right xt60 380 MH battery right it's just going to get a little bit too heavy it's still going to

[01:06:34]   fly great don't get me wrong it's still going to fly absolutely fantastic it'll almost certainly fly better than any one as setup is going to because the Newbie drone blv 5 that they sent me was fat

[01:06:48]   and that thing flew better than all of these one that's what started this is that I flew that I was like holy if this fat cow can fly this good what have I been doing with my life

[01:07:00]   sticking with 1S on these 75s this is the way and that's what led to these so there you go it'll be better than 1S but this is Magic this formula with the BT 3.0 with this battery it is nuts it's

[01:07:17]   so good you can fly it in the house that's outrageous Nick hay says in experience with TBS tiny whoop Nano I can't get it to connect to either Agent X BetaFlight sees it but only opens CLI

[01:07:30]   none whatsoever TBS tiny whoop Nano what the hell is that TBS is making a tiny whoop what are they doing that for TBS tiny whoop Nano what the hell is that oh wait what

[01:07:57]   I'm not sure what what is the TBS tiny whoop Nano here it is it is a whoop oh it's an old brushed whoop no I no experience with that whatsoever sorry

[01:08:08]   dude man it's been forever since I've I've done anything with brushed rops I forget everything by now but just just search there I'm sure somebody's got a live

[01:08:20]   stream somewhere from forever ago that'll have the answer you just you're going to have to dig a little bit also do some Googling because you'll that thing is old enough where you'll

[01:08:30]   find RC groups threads on it YouTube did the thing and scrolled me down and so now I have to try to find where I was in chat there I was crit ha says Teddy might have might start having

[01:08:43]   rainbow poop 661 says doggy laxative I looked that up oh that's a part of the story that I think I forgot to tell you I looked up on Google like oh no no no I told you yeah LAX

[01:08:55]   Google Google says don't don't don't induce vomiting let them let them push it through cuz when you induce vomiting it makes them like ultra sick and so plus like what a

[01:09:07]   nightmare here dog here's a bunch of stuff that's going to make you have diarrhea and throw up and go ahead and run around in our house that's nice and clean and doesn't smell like dog or

[01:09:16]   dog vomit great like the next 24 hours would be an absolute nightmare I did not get the feeling from the searches that I did that I I had a lot to worry about so I'm I'm

[01:09:30]   hoping I'm super nervous because like I'm nervous that it is going to get lodged and then it's going to turn into X-rays and surgery which is thousands and thousands of dollars right I

[01:09:40]   would rather deal with him all over the house than that but I don't know it didn't seem like the laxative thing was a great idea to induce fing strager says last question cuz

[01:09:54]   beat the 3.0 is equivalent to xt30 in terms of power delivery and sag and such yep absolutely viable for 3in toothpicks probably don't quote me on that because I I've not seen anybody do that but

[01:10:04]   probably see my the pins are are a little tiny bit smaller than xt30 so it's the right the right answer for me to give is it's going to depend on how much power you want out of that 3-inch

[01:10:16]   toothpick CMYK is in the houseI'm wearing the CMYK shirt that he sent me a while ago BMF space says looking for that beach ball it's on Tiny woop.com thrash FB

[01:10:30]   says I just got my 2S mob 7 frame going to start it on xt30 when I get paid convert to b b 3.0 great great idea also sorry for not putting my Etsy order in you're good had some stuff pop up

[01:10:40]   it's all good brother Frank Nicholas says Chef is also on the Paramount plus service that's right you're right yep when I logged into Apple to buy it they were like try paramont for $18 a

[01:10:52]   month and I was like no boy have we gone backwards we went from expensive cable TV that had everything to just paying a much smaller fee to Netflix which had everything to

[01:11:09]   Netflix and Hulu to Netflix Hulu Prime to oh my god there are enough services that you can that if you want to be able to watch everything all the time you have to pay more than what you used to

[01:11:21]   pay for network television but get control over your life and realize that you can just have Netflix for a month and watch all the stuff on Netflix and then you can pause that and turn on

[01:11:36]   Hulu for a month and watch everything on Hulu or two months or four months or six months and then you can pause that and you can do Paramount for a month right you gotta it is a better situation now than

[01:11:51]   being forced to being forced to have like two networ networ TV plans one with like basic cable one with HBO and Showtime and all the stuff with what you would be getting on like

[01:12:01]   Netflix and Mario Bean says I wish they had 4.5 millim screws me too I've had some strip the motor hole ah I have not had that happen I've been worried about it strip out the motor hole

[01:12:11]   since it barely reaches so I have to shave Away part of the frame so it reaches better that I agree 100% I'm I meant to do this but I forgot m1.4 by 5 I'm going to get some M1

[01:12:29]   4x5 screws on the way and maybe they're not too long when I got the by when I started using the by fours I had I was like ooh that's a little sketchy I have not had one strip out yet so I I if

[01:12:45]   I had I would have already done this but there's no reason not to order up a set of what you could do you could use like m1.4 by4 conle and then let them drive into the plastic a little bit

[01:13:02]    but hopefully I would rather have a little bit more thread engagement here we go now we're talking black screws size m1.4 by oh no no no no by five m1.4 by5 quantity 100's fine what's the

[01:13:22]   price difference though yeah there is an actual price difference there okay looks like the right thing right that looks good that looks good okay buying it now my friends confirm a

[01:13:39]   pay that's my address yep $628 all right come on come on come on come on and then you guys are gonna have to pay $5 for a set because shipping but you're also supporting

[01:13:54]   me the same time right order confirm thanks you're welcome eBayI did most of my Christmas shopping on eBay I tried to do it in local stores but local stores don't have

[01:14:08]    eBay you're getting you're not helping Jeff Bezos be even more of an and you're absolutely supporting small businesses right like yes there are sellers lots of sellers on

[01:14:25]   Amazon that are small businesses but there's still money going to Amazon right eBay you are sending your money directly I mean some of the money goes to eBay but eBay is a great company

[01:14:35]   that's did something awesome Amazon's been doing a lot of shitty stuff and so supporting eBay is a much better idea and the percentage that goes to the people is much higher than Amazon I

[01:14:48]   worked as a product manager for a while and had to get the company that I was I was a part of getting the company that we were working with set up with Amazon it blows Amazon beats the

[01:15:01]   out of you it is obnoxious eBay does not do that even a little bit Mario Bean we got that Arc UK said arcs UK rather says do you find the WalkSnail 2S rigs to just be underwhelming

[01:15:14]   now that you've tried the analog ones it's been down so I haven't flown it since but probably not because I'm still at like 80 85% motor limiting I can just crank it up if I want more power so

[01:15:30]    it'll probably be fine the the the walks sill rig will never go to an 802 motor what what I may have learned with these two is that with the analog 2S builds 802 is all is all you need if

[01:15:46]   you want to go up to an hd0 board or a WalkSnail board external vtx's then you want to go to the the 102s or maybe even the 1102s the 1102 BetaFPV 18,000 kb Motors

[01:16:03]   blast using those for the WalkSnail build you it will not be underwhelming it will I guarantee you it will not be underwhelming it's I've done that setup it

[01:16:13]   rips where you'll notice the difference is the weight the extra six grams of WalkSnail when you're in the bushes trying to like make those quick Direction changes to shoot all the tiny

[01:16:23]   little gaps that's where the extra weight will be you'll feel it but now thrust on 2S is no problem anymore which is awesome that's when the 65 mil that's when I fell in love

[01:16:36]   with the 65 mil Rigs and the same things happening here demo FV says did you see the' 04 light images that mad released rumored 10 grams that would be would that be 2 s75 possibly absolutely

[01:16:51]    I've not seen it but I've been talking about it being 10 G that rumored came out few weeks ago yeah at 10 G it should be totally fine that's four extra what we don't know is is the VTX

[01:17:04]   10 gram and then the camera is another few grams or is the whole package 10 grams right if the whole package is 10 grams that's only four more grams than the WalkSnail setup so

[01:17:15]   basically now maybe the 75 Pro is well no the 75 Pro there's no 2S option so that's out never mind you would use the 1102 Motors you would use the BetaFPV 1102 18000s and

[01:17:30]   they it' probably be awesome thrash fbb says should I run 0802 or 102 if KV is not a concern on 2S 75 millimet we just talked about that if you're going to go digital 102 if you're going

[01:17:42]   to stay analog maybe 802 if you want analog with more power or maybe you think in the future you'll go digital just go at 102 now the the 75 analoges are awesome on 102 I just

[01:17:56]   think they're a little bit more awesome on 802 you're good it's a great question brother Craig Meyer with a $10 Super Chat thank you so much brother thank you for supporting the madness

[01:18:05]   King dingling says do you think the HappyModel efficiency magic extends to their 102 20,000 KV Motors maybe AliExpress has sets for $34 maybe I've I I try not to speculate on stuff

[01:18:20]   like that if you do it let us know I would love that now that we're diving deeper into this 2S 75 thing inevitably I will start buying all of the motors and testing them because I just can't

[01:18:32]   help myself I already have one of the HappyModel 102 Motors I bought one of a bunch of the 102s to do some testing and we'll add them to the spreadsheet that you'll have

[01:18:44]   access to if you're on my patreon so there will be motor testing but we're yeah not there quite yet chonan says m1.4 by5 is not too long in my experience when using the

[01:18:58]   risers awesome I have some on the way I'll let you guys know for sure it's 11:22 we got to start flying luckily I'm caught up on chat now thank you guys for holding your questions much

[01:19:08]   appreciated if you didn't it's okay it is all good I'm going to use my trusty old school HD 3s because they're much more comfortable than the HD zero goggles and this is about testing this

[01:19:24]   is not not necessarily about like I use the HD zero goggles when I'm going to try to make like some flight footage that I use either in an edit or like in an Instagram story or real which I

[01:19:37]   don't do very often which is Criminal but I need to do it more need to make more flying edits it's just very timec consuming what am I supposed to do with this 65 Pro build just tear it

[01:19:55]   apart right tear it apart and use this AO in something more interesting right that's the deal right that's almost certainly what I'll do because this Matrix AIO held up to a

[01:20:14]   bunch of punishment the other night and it seems to be a good AO I am going to sit there and plug and unplug the UFL a bunch of times to try confirm whether or not they've fixed the main

[01:20:27]   problem with the air aios in that process there's a chance that I rip the UFO off so maybe that's what I do with that AO is right but that AO will get put into

[01:20:44]   something something 65 I'm tempted to take it and try to do an ultra Ultra Ultra lightweight 75 MIM build but that's basically what this is the only problem with this is that these

[01:20:56]   motors are low KV this is the air 75 this has an AIO in it that's even lighter weight than the Matrix AO and this thing flies Okay but it doesn't fly great see the motors are only

[01:21:08]   23,000 KV so the Matrix AIO oh wait nope I don't have to do that I don't have to do that because on the last live stream I weighed The Matrix AIO and it weighs exactly the same as

[01:21:23]   the 2g4 and I've done High KV 802 2g4 builds and they're just not there that's actually what this is literally what I'm holding right now and so you'll get to see me fly this tonight this is on 30

[01:21:41]   33,000 KV 802s so no need to do that with that Matrix board that is a 65mm whoop board 1 s for 65 MIM 2 s for 75 mimet we're going to fly this first actually this is the first rig that

[01:21:57]   we're going to test these props on and we're going to test the 1 mm versions of these props because this is that's what's on this this is the BetaFPV air 75 Pro within a few

[01:22:09]   batteries the frame broke I put I did cmy K's trick and just used a little bit of shrink wrap I think he saw it somewhere else but I saw it from him so I'm going to call it the cmy Krick

[01:22:20]   you just take a little piece of shrink wrap put it over there if you want to be an over achiever take a little bit of E6000 before you put the shrink wrap on put some E6000 to glue these

[01:22:31]   together well you'd have to put the shrink wrap on and then put the E6000 and then roll the shrink wrap over that whole joint just the shrink wrap is actually pretty damn strong I I I

[01:22:42]   continued flying this and it was a okay so this is what we're going to fly first and again since we've been rambling through the woods on this live stream as we always do what we

[01:22:55]   are testing tonight is the new HQ ultral light by blades now that we have a 1 and 1 12 MIM motor shaft version of them you can put these on proper durable 75mm rigs the old school

[01:23:11]   version of this prop was only Avail the this prop was previously only available with a 1 mm motor shaft and these 75mm rigs with 1 mil motor shafts are not durable at all that's the 1 mil motor

[01:23:24]   shaft is way too thin for something that has this much power and weight and so this is dead stock out of the box it comes with the GemFan 1610 so we're going to fly those first and then we're

[01:23:36]   going to swap it over and you'll get to see how it flies on the HQ ultral lights I can feel a big difference when I do this when when I switch because I've I've flown these HQ

[01:23:53]   ultralight 1.6 by blades a bunch on these 1 mm motor shafts in 2024 I can absolutely feel the difference when I go from the GemFan 1610 to this prop it's these are way lighter and so the

[01:24:07]   response time gets better and the rig just flies better with lighter props as long as they're not super fragile or super low pitch fly better all the time we've seen this in 5-in rigs the weight

[01:24:21]   of 5-in propellers four years ago versus today is night and day they're like half as half as light they're they're half the weight nowadays and with tiny whoops it is just as if not even more

[01:24:33]   important so first up air 75 dead stock out of the box on GemFan 1610s these are 802 23,000 KV Motors that are direct soldered unfortunately which is the reason that I haven't upgraded this to

[01:24:48]   different Motors and might not the direct solder motor thing is just obnoxious get in there Jesus these lava batteries fit tight like tigers in here my god let's see if Teddy comes a

[01:25:12]   running n he don't care air 75 Stone stock out of the box I'll weigh it somebody tag me and sayplease weigh that so the with with pretty much all of these 1S 75mm

[01:25:36]   rigs the over the overwhelming oh God damn it so that was caused by me hammering the throttle not nearly early enough expecting much better response time much more power and

[01:25:49]   not getting it the the overwhelming flight experience on these is a lack of response time they feel heavy as hell they feel sluggish and they feel it just doesn't feel dialed in

[01:26:06]   right one of the big reasons that 5 in rigs feel so good is that the response time is like outrageous my big problem with these 75s has always

[01:26:19]   been one of has always been the lack of response time can you get used to it sure do you want to get used to it though no it doesn't feel as good and then every single time you fly it

[01:26:35]   you have to get used to it right you go to fly your 5-in rig or like any other rig that has a better optimized powertrain and you have to adjust there so you're you're constantly having to

[01:26:47]   adjust which is just kind of obnoxious is the flight footage a little bit smoother with a response time absolutely but I would rather have better response

[01:26:59]   time and then if I want smoother flight footage I can do it digitally in BetaFlight right that way I can turn it off and on by just flying something that has response time and then just saying

[01:27:12]   like oh but the footage looks better you can't okay that's fine I can do that too but then if I want to race it or if I just want better response time I can easily do that right oh God damn it I

[01:27:25]   just heard the camera turn off come on now uh all right let me OBS seems to get really grumpy when the camera shits the bed so let me fix this real

[01:27:41]   quick all right that nope forgot to turn it off and on off on I can't make that decision for you eagley shooting you have to make that decision that's

[01:27:56]    everybody is going to is going to have a different preference there there there is no there is not one is not better than the other they're all just different and so

[01:28:06]    hd0 is middle of the road image quality low latency WalkSnail is best image quality highest latency but still totally flyable analog is cheap best low latency and worst image

[01:28:28]   quality but still decent image quality and so you buy the one that sounds best to you and don't second guess it I should have taken this upstairs but whatever these 75s if you put enough

[01:28:47]   stick time in they are flyable in small spaces as you're seeing here but they're nowhere near as enjoyable and they're it's a lot harder you have to work a lot harder because you have to account for

[01:28:59]   the shitty response time so I have to hit the throttle earlier for whatever I'm doing and that is a lot harder to do and again you're having to adjust everything that you

[01:29:10]   do for that one rig and everything else that you've got that's better dialed in power to weight ratio rise wise is going to feel significantly different and so one of the big keys

[01:29:24]   to Flying really good is either flying the exact same thing over and over and over again or if you're going to fly different stuff figuring out how to get the response times all into a place

[01:29:38]   where they fly similar and that and cutting down on that adjustment period it's still a bad idea if you want to get really good as a pilot to fly different stuff all the time it will

[01:29:49]   always you will always run into this problem but if you're going to if flying all different stuff is as fun to you as it is to me but you also want to be a good pilot

[01:30:06]   there you go cuz that's my situation you can see it at the bottom of those big throws I'm getting on the throttle early and it's like prop washing down into into its own garbage

[01:30:18]   that sucks that but that's 1 s75 life you're not until you get to a build set up that has assloads of power and then the runtime sucks right so there's no there's no balls I I

[01:30:36]   wanted to look at like the RPM God damn it I'll do this I'll put a fresh battery on it we'll do this the right way we'll plug it into the power supply I'll plug it into the power supply and get a

[01:30:52]   full throttle RPM for you guys on one propeller versus the other because that's important that tells us that tells us how basically that tells us the true pitch of the propeller

[01:31:08]   is the GemFan propeller truly more pitchy which will allow it to make more power than the HQ ultral light the HQ ultralite doesn't tell you what the pitch is it just says that it's a

[01:31:21]   1.2 I think I lied I I I I accidentally told the truth while lying it's 1.2 pitch it's 1.6 by 1.2 I accidentally told you what the pitch I don't know why 1.2 came out of

[01:31:37]   my mouth I'm that good so this is 1.2 pitch the GemFan is 1610 1.0 pitch when you look at the blades of the propellers though the GemFan certainly does not look it's a less pitchy prop it

[01:31:51]   looks it's a way more pitchy prop and so we can get to the bottom of that kind of a little bit not really but sort of by cranking these things up in and seeing the RPM that they'll turn

[01:32:06]   in BetaFlight in the motors tab got it so what I'll do is I'll pull two of these propellers off and then we'll go into BetaFlight and I'll spin two Motors up and spin the

[01:32:19]   other two Motors up and away we shall go this is the Clone popper from Tiny whoop it is my favorite of the prop poppers each different prop popper has like strengths and

[01:32:31]   weaknesses this one has the most strengths the only weakness is the Little Fork down here is I'm not going to call it fragile but it is not indestructible if you start cranking on

[01:32:45]   a prop and motor you can absolutely break this and There Goes YouTube YouTube just the bed when when YouTube is about to the bed the the stream starts performing like

[01:32:57]   ass so thank you for the bed YouTube I can now refresh and the performance of The Stream will return thank you so much YouTube for convincing us all to live stream on your platform and then consist just

[01:33:16]   continually making it worse for us that's very very kind of you to make all of us that live stream want to jump off a building th for the record this thing is set up props

[01:33:35]   out I am gonna whoa that one flying I'm going to change it to props in because with these 75mm rigs they're more for outside and outside there's a potential that you're going to do big

[01:33:48]   old Dives and props in performs better on Prop guarded rigs and inducted rigs when it comes to dropping elevation so I'm going to switch this thing to props in I'm going to have to do that

[01:34:00]   before I spin the motors up because when you spin the propellers backwards they are much less efficient and they will turn much less RPM that's something that we all learned

[01:34:13]   together a while ago which I find fascinating it makes sense they they very specifically design these like just air foils right a these the propeller blades are are air

[01:34:26]   foils just like wings on a plane and all that air foils are sometimes designed to be directional and when you design them to be directional they do certain things that make them really

[01:34:38]   aerodynamic in that one when when air flow passes on them over them in One Direction not necessarily in the other direction BetaFlight is coming up let's give it a couple seconds

[01:34:54]   actually really interested to see what happens here actually I'm going to leave the prop the Clone popper out come on betta flight you can do it you're a tiny little program on like

[01:35:07]   a one-year-old computer I guess this computer's two years old I don't remember to be honest this thing is going to look cool with these pink props all blue and pink another

[01:35:18]   trans rights or ibites build motor motor Direction I got to plug a battery in nope nope nope I'm going to plug it into the power supply so this is getting a steady 4volt power source no

[01:35:35]   battery sag no nothing it's plugged into a toolkit RC p200 adjustable power supply set at four volts wizard start and spin okay motor one is incorrect let's click it to

[01:35:49]   hopefully reverse it's reversing motor 2 is wrong click it to reverse it motor 3 is Right motor 4 is right as well stop Motors they're all now spinning in the right direction so Motors one and three

[01:36:07]   are the gem fans two and four are the HQ ultral lights let me just quickly make sure that they're all making [Laughter] thrust in in out

[01:36:24]   out okay yep they're all making thrust so all right motor one this is GemFan 1610 let me zoom on this a little bit for you guys and we're looking here at the r this is the RPM the more pitchy

[01:36:38]   the propeller the lower the RPM right the more pitch the more power it makes the more drag and so let's see GemFan 1610 47,000 HQ ultral light 47,000 not a good sign I was hoping they

[01:36:57]   would be different GemFan 1610 47,000 HQ ultralite 47,000 all right so very very similar very similar amount of power very similar amount of pitch on one hand I would rather have one

[01:37:18]   make more power so that it would be like it would be like well if you want the the more powerful prop get this one but the look one of these propellers has better response time but is more

[01:37:34]   Fragile the other one is pretty much Indestructible with slightly worse response time it's kind of nice for that to be right if one of them made more power than the other it'd be like well

[01:37:45]   I want more power but I also want better response time and of course whatever you want they're not going to be in the right combination right so we've got two

[01:37:53]   that are turning the same RPM what that means is that they should be making damn near the exact same amount of thrust it'll be a little bit different but you probably won't notice it the

[01:38:04]   difference in durability and response time is the main difference between these props that makes choosing one dead ass simple although I know a bunch of you are going to want

[01:38:17]   the uh a more durable better response time prop but look that's hard to do right good cheap fast pick two durable durable better flight characteristics pick

[01:38:40]   one if we could pick them both then the other propeller would just never get sold ever oh I got to put this back into beta flate and reverse the I got the rear Motors SP this is unflyable as it

[01:38:52]   as it sits right now cuz the the rear Motors are spinning out and the front Motors are spinning in is this flyable no it's not it's not because yall it would have to run no this

[01:39:11]   is not flyable like this I was going to say did I just figure something out can you run props in on the front and props out on the back no you cannot you

[01:39:21]   cannot if if there was a setting in BetaFlight for props in in the front props in out in the back and BetaFlight knew that on yaw it would trigger the the left side Motors or the light side right side

[01:39:38]   Motors it might be flyable I'll bet you the flight characteristics would be weird but that would have to be done in BetaFlight because as soon as you yaw BetaFlight needs to know the exact

[01:39:49]   direction that each motor is spinning and the way that BetaFlight knows that is right here and there's no setting for Quad x with weird right it's just motor direction is reversed it's just forward

[01:40:05]   and reversed know what I'm saying so I need to Now set this to props in and then I need to go into the motor Direction tab and get the motor spinning the correct direction

[01:40:19]   because right now the rear Motors are props out and the fronts are props in motors motor Direction I understand the risks wizard if you like this kind of stuff tell your friendstell your

[01:40:29]   friends to start watching this post a link to this live stream somewhere do that organic marketing stuff and let's get some new people up in here so that as many people as possible

[01:40:40]   can enjoy these magical tiny whoops that we be figuring out the secret secret formulas for most FPV Pilots when I introduce them to these tiny whoops are absolutely Blown Away by how good they

[01:40:57]   fly and are likehow the hell do these fly so good and how the hell did I not know about it cool we're now props in on the HQ ultral lights let us

[01:41:13]   fly and so we've already put one battery through this I'm going to get this I have the exact right number of batteries look at me go cool yeah I know I know

[01:41:27]   controller I know I know you're very upset with me here we go we just flew the GemFan 1610s now we're going to the HQ ultral lights I I don't know if you guys will be able to see a difference

[01:41:41]   here you're just going to have to take my word for it because one of the big things that I'm probably going to notice is much better response time you might be able to see it at the bottom of

[01:41:51]   power loops and stuff look for that jiggle look for that prop wash with lighter weight propellers that still make the same amount of thrust the response time will be better and that

[01:42:02]   makes the pit Loop work better and so that prop wash might go away other than that it's a flight feel thing when I move the stick and there's a massive difference on the sticks that I can feel

[01:42:18]   in response time you really feel it on yaw like the yaw is now much crisper you might be able to see that you guys might be able to see that even though we're seeing the same

[01:42:33]   RPM in Jesus in BetaFlight I feel like these props make a little bit less thrust could totally be Placebo but I've tested these props against the gem

[01:42:53]   1.6s a lot this year and I've always had that feeling I set up a little bit too low for that I've always had that feeling I've always feel like felt like these a whoa okay that was the dopest dope I

[01:43:18]   ever smoked it hit the gate crash prevention kept it going and then it fell down into the Cubethat was ridiculous somebody somebody better clip that

[01:43:34]   Holy this flies a lot better with these props on it even if it makes a little bit less power it flies awesome and I'm now kind of adjusted to it right you see my

[01:43:46]   flying kind of clean up now that I'm getting used to the quicker response time it's much easier to get used to and to start flying properly a setup that has better

[01:43:59]   response time the worse the response time the more you're going to have to adjust because you're going to have to be early with everything right quick response time means that you can at the

[01:44:10]   last second change directions and not crash for example oh God damn I think it went through one of the gates can you guys tell the difference be honest if not it's totally

[01:44:26]   okay and it doesn't mean that like you're a shitty viewer be completely honest oh my God rejected come on I want to spend some time with crash prevention to see if I can get it

[01:44:46]   to die dial it in a little bit more it's really pissing me off when I hit the ground and it turns on didn't turn on that time didn't turn on that time either I don't know it turns on when I hit the

[01:44:58]   ground and when crash prevention is on you're locked out from the controls and for some reason when I hit like more often than than when I hit the ceiling when I hit the ground and crash

[01:45:11]   prevention turns on it doesn't find level and it locks me out of the controls at like a little bit of an angle and then that and then that like will cause a crash and that drives

[01:45:24]   me absolutely insane did anybody happen to notice the difference in runtime run time is Super suggest sub subjective though but I'm wondering if anybody I'm wondering if anybody saw remembers or

[01:45:39]   wrote down or can rewind and check the runtime on the GemFan 1610s and also check the Max RPM what you want to remember about the Max RPM though

[01:45:53]   is that it gets calculated it gets wiped out after you after you disarm so every single time I arm and disarm it changes the how sick would that have been it resets the the Max RPM so to get

[01:46:13]   the proper Max RPM you're going to have to go back to the first time I disarmed since that's when the battery will have been the fullest if if anybody's willing to do that I would love you for I would

[01:46:26]   love you long time if nobody's willing to do that live here maybe somebody rewatching the stream is willing to do that and can put it in the comments that would be

[01:46:39]   amazing damn it I'm trying to do this little oh nope are we at 3.5 3.51 I'm going to try this move one more time and that'll bring us in line I'm trying to do this Ultra Combo wall

[01:46:53]   ride to Tower dive but it's hard wall ride there's like three or four distinct throttle inputs that happen to H that have to happen and I'm just not quite good enough we got one more in us it's

[01:47:09]   bouncing up to three 3.51 so I have to do the wall ride and then I have to blip the throttle to pull it off the wall and then I have to blip the throttle to have it not hit the back

[01:47:22]   door there that's what she said there you go whoa look at that run time 4 minutes and 50 seconds 39,000 Max RPM since the last time that I disarmed it earlier on in the battery

[01:47:37]   because I did crash a bunch there'll probably be a higher RPM than that oh my God chonan thank you for reminding me of this oh the HQ ultral light props it's starting to feel

[01:47:53]   like across the board are better balanced than all of the new generation of GemFan props the new generation of GemFan props are significantly older though than the HQ ultral lights and one

[01:48:06]   thing that we see in FPV propellers is as time goes on they get better and better and better and better better balanced the first generation of GemFan and HQ props were not only way too

[01:48:19]   pitchy and way too heavy but they were the worst balanced then GemFan came out with the 1210 byblade the 1610 byblade the 129s triblade and the 1608 triblade and those were all much better

[01:48:36]   balanced much lighter and much lower pitch these HQ ultral lights are the newest generation of propellers and they they're even lighter and they're even better balanced and they're about the

[01:48:51]   same pitch so we're super lucky to have these I hope that GemFan now comes out with a new generation of tiny woop props that are as light or maybe even lighter I don't think they'll get

[01:49:01]   lighter they'll be able to get lighter than these HQ ultral lights without getting way less durable these are already at like the limit of durability as far as I'm concerned so

[01:49:10]   hopefully GemFan comes out with another new generation of props that are this same weight but maybe they're a little bit more durable and they're as as balanced as

[01:49:22]   these yeah these are beautifully balanced so there you go there's the air 75 oh look the the frame finally popped out of the I was wondering when that was going to happen that could have

[01:49:35]   happened when I was just molesting it here holding it but probably happened when it was flying I should have cut a little bit longer of a piece of shrink wrap here I should have also put E6000

[01:49:45]   in there but this works staggering oh look I broke the other one okay okay so this is the air 75 frame it's the lightest weight 75mm frame for the 1.6in props but it's

[01:50:03]   not it's not nearly as durable as the mobula 7 V4 frame and so also this Frame doesn't jive with some aios the mobul 7 V4 frame you can run any AIO in it so this Frame is is a

[01:50:22]   this 75 frame is one G lighter which is not nothing but it forces you to run kind of specific AOS and it's a little fragile it's getting ready to break up on the front here too it always

[01:50:35]   breaks in the same spot these these air frames the geometry of the frame the way that the duct supports are they put they dump all of their energy into this one spot and that's the spot that always

[01:50:47]   breaks on these frames so maybe there'll be a new version of this Frame and they fig figure out how to spread that shock load out a little bit better so that it when when you've got something

[01:50:58]   that breaks in the exact same spot over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that's potentially an engineering problem it's hard to engineer these

[01:51:07]   things because like you can't ask CAD hey if somebody puts these Electronics in it and bounces it off their basement wall 4,000 times where is it going to break right you just design it

[01:51:20]   and then you got to put it out there and you see where it breaks and then the next version of it you try to maybe beef that spot up or change the design so it spreads the energy out a little bit

[01:51:29]   different but there you go air 75 done that thing flies really good in in all fairness it flies really really good nowhere near as good as the 2S rigs but still flies good next rig up

[01:51:47]   powerwise is a hold on let me is this the X12 or is this the 2g4 I think it's actually I think it's the X12 but I've had this build with a 2g4 in it this is the X12 okay so this is a

[01:52:06]   mbula 7 elrs 1S it's the camera it's the canopy it's the frame it's the X12 AIO BT 2.0 converted I think they still come on ph 2.0 micro antenna big motor swap that rig comes

[01:52:25]   with 0802 20,000 KV motors which are way too low for 1S they're perfect for 2S but way too ever wonder if a motor is too low for for the lower voltage if it's perfect for the higher voltage it's

[01:52:39]   way too low of a KV for the lower voltage so you do a motor swap you put the IGA 0802 27,000 on it I have 0802 33,000 KV Motors on this so that's what we're about to

[01:52:54]   fly and it's on the GemFan 1610s right now we're now up to 1 and a half millimeter motor shaft so we'll fly it on the gem fans real quick and then we'll move it over

[01:53:10]   to the to the other ones real descriptive I know I got a surprise for you it's a dog's chest it's a fluffy dog's chest let's blow that fluff around oh no come back dog come on dog we want the fluff show

[01:53:33]   there we go oh wow this thing does not like launch mode oh Teddy how was that for you buddy you got a faceful what's this okay this rig is acting weird the one motor wasn't

[01:53:46]   spinning up oh you dirty rat bastard you now it's unrecoverable look what you did Teddy look what you did oh man I'll tell you what this this tiny whoop LED 180 degree BT 2.0

[01:54:07]   thing makes finding these so much easier it's got that big bright pink light and it was just shining on the wall I was like I know exactly where it is I love these little things tiny whoop.com bt2.0

[01:54:19]   180° with LEDs on it awesome awesome awesome awesome highly recommended unless you're gorilla whooping and don't want to want people to know where you are cuz it makes the

[01:54:30]   whoop very noticeable away we go gem fin 1610 on 802 33,000 KV Motors this rig is also a little bit heavier I forgot to weigh these two rigs this rig is heavier for sure the air 75 is like like oh my

[01:54:53]   God is the lightest weight 1 s75 rig you're really going to be able to build I wanted to see if I did any damage so now what we've got is way more KV and way more

[01:55:08]    power you can see a little bit of prop wash there I have this thing pretty well tuned I have a feeling that prop wash is going to go away when we put on the HQ ultral lights

[01:55:25]   you can see the prop wash again there I won't change the tune oh so did you guys notice it's bounce off the wall there and just keep going that is

[01:55:38]   why that is why having propellers that run around the the duct properly and they're not too high and they're not too low is Magic cuz when you bump into stuff sometimes the propeller just

[01:55:50]   scrapes right past and you bounce right off and you keep flying it's stuck in between the gate and the wall all right so I'm going to try to remember to weigh this thing when we're

[01:56:07]   done thank you for that Chet tonian ah let's give this a no let's just keep going I oh what this core temperature warning makes me happy because that is possibly being caused

[01:56:28]   by the propellers not being you Henny get out of the way good Lord man relax I wish he was a little bit less of a puppy just a little bit he's a lot he's a lot of

[01:56:59]   puppy there's a lot of puppy in this dog oh god the core temperature right now it's because it's been sitting with no air flow but the reason usually they'll sit with no airf

[01:57:11]   flow and not have the core temperature warning going bananas these GemFan 1610s are less are not as well balanced as the GemFan ultral lights in the 1 mm motor shaft and so this core temperature

[01:57:31]   nonsense might not be an issue once I get the HQ as long as the 1 and 12 mm motor shaft HQ ultral lights are as well balanced then this core temperature thing might that that'll actually be a

[01:57:47]   good indication of them being better balanced right the other way to tell if a of a prop is oh in or out of balance is just to fly it outside and broad daylight that brings out every bit of jello

[01:58:04]    and that's one of the things that myself and other people have noticed when you run the HQ ultralight 1.6s is that the jello kind of goes away and that's like a sure fire sign that one

[01:58:19]   prop is better balanced than the other oh man oh wow that's stuck isn't it man I'm just getting everything stuck tonight yikes Teddy's trying to help but as always he's

[01:58:43]   helpless mobio 7 V4 frame holding up beautifully because that's what they do Teddy oh my God he's got that he does that stomp it just melts me every time oh wait this battery's done 3.48

[01:59:01]   3.47 there you go 3 minutes and 5 Seconds let's swap the props and but first let's weigh these I'm going to weigh all the rigs so we'll just get it out of the way can somebody type this into chat please type

[01:59:16]    I will do it and the first person that types I will do it you get to do it's a real honor to get to do this I just don't want 40 people to do it uh Med just type these

[01:59:28]   weights from lightest to heaviest do whatever you want meteor 75 air sorry sorry air BetaFPV air 75 2.23 gram boy that's light call it 20 21.3 gram 21.3 33,000 KV mobula

[01:59:47]   7 24.4 uh 36,000 KV mobula 7 24.5 gram and then 802 2S rig 24.6 gr my God is that light the batteries are slightly different the 2S 300 Mah batteries are 15.2 G the 1S 450s are 12.3 3

[02:00:26]   G I didn't realize there was that much of a weight difference between the batteries makes sense it's 450 Mah versus 600 Mah right so it makes sense there'd be a big difference okay

[02:00:40]    weights are all figured out let's where'd it go nope that ain't it where'd it go here it is let's swap the propellers over I'm going to do the same thing I'm going to pull the

[02:01:00]   fronts and then we'll swap those throw it into BetaFlight spin it up see if we can see any difference now that we're all the way up to 33,000 KV right like maybe those lower KV Motors they just

[02:01:13]    no the the higher KV the motor the more obvious it's going to be if there is a difference in Pitch between two propellers does that make sense to you guys High left and high right we're also

[02:01:24]   about to see if these fit the motor shafts too tight these are HappyModel motor shafts let's see if I can just put these on or if I'm going to have to drill them out is this props in this is

[02:01:35]   indeed props in please just go not a good sign oh nope they're way too tight oh wait no hold on no no no it was just hard to get it started I think it's about

[02:01:55]   right I I kind of do recommend drilling these out a little bit though because I've seen problems with the Hub breaking on the 45 mm props I think we're going to have the same problem with these and

[02:02:08]   the tighter the propeller is on the on the motor shaft the more that Hub is just like I'm about to die and break please don't smash into the wall right so you might want to drill these out

[02:02:20]   anyway I'm going to make the durability situation as bad as I possibly can and I'm just going to run them they they do fit pretty much perfect this is about right it's maybe a little bit if

[02:02:34]   anything it's maybe the tiniest little bit too tight which again is why you might want to drill it out but that is not I do not have to get these on right when you start to

[02:02:50]   make faces you're pushing too hard um chonan says I think if you had props in I think if you had props in on the front props out in the rear you wouldn't have any hover stability there would

[02:03:05]   always be a net impulse in One Direction that's interesting want I would love to see like one of those fancy cfds of that when was the last time you accelerated the

[02:03:22]   well that is a great thought but when I hit the walls that is a great thought let's check it I mean all we have to do is plug it in and we can see it's a really good thought what though

[02:03:38]   it's happening to multiple different Rigs and so it's should be fine it's when I smash into the gates and the walls and stuff see we're fine I mean it's off the tiniest little bit but

[02:03:50]   like when I hit the carpet sometimes and crash prevention comes on it'll have like 30° of angle is is where it'll correct and so and it happens across all different rigs really good thought

[02:04:03]   though and public service warning if you're going to run crash prevention it turns on the accelerometer so if you haven't calibrated your accelerometer or accelerated your

[02:04:21]   weird thing where it corrects to some awkward ass angle but when I hit walls and Gates and it's perfect so what might actually be happening oh no I just you know

[02:04:37]   what's happening is Crash prevention is not I I was thinking about this backwards crash prevention is not triggering when I hit the ground because without crash

[02:04:48]   prevention you hit something and then the rig is like this and then you have to try to fix it the magic of Crash prevention is that it levels it out perfectly so all you have to deal with

[02:04:59]   is the momentum that got created from when you hit something when I'm hitting the carpet it's not triggering it and it's bouncing off the carpet into some random ass orientation oh but it feels

[02:05:10]   like I'm locked out of the sticks though I'll do a live stream where we dial in Crash prevention how about that somebody's going to have to remind me that though I'm going to forget that

[02:05:20]   I've got the hqs on the front and the bing Bongs in the back HQ 1.6x 1.2x Two ultra light by blades on the front GemFan 1610s are on the rear let's see what the RPMs have to

[02:05:46]   say again this is not a perfect way of checking the pitch of propellers but it's a damn good way and you can do this at home everybody's making thrust everybody's happy let me just double check props in

[02:06:01]   props in props in props in I mean it was just flying so I don't know why I checked that GemFan 1610 33,000 KV Motors 49,000 RPM HQ ultral light byblade 52,000 RPM see I told you F

[02:06:22]   1610 49,000 HQ 52,000 and that my friends is the power of functioning human brains I don't know there you go the on the lower K it's exactly what I said on the lower KV

[02:06:43]   Motors basically with both propeller with both propellers the motor was able to spin up to like get Max KV and level off once we went to a horrendously High KV motor the more pitchy propeller became

[02:07:01]   obvious it's more pitchy it's more thrusty and since we're asking for more RPM more KV than that it can actually deliver it maxes out at 49,000 and then we go to a less pitchy prop and

[02:07:18]   it can crank all the way up to 52 so the h Q's even though on the propeller it says 1.6x 1.2x two and the gem fans are the are 1610 which is 1.6x 1.0 by two either the HQ blade material is so thin

[02:07:39]   that it's flattening out and under Full Throttle it's losing pitch or it's just not as pitchy of a prop regardless at Full Throttle the GemFan will make more power and that's what it feels like

[02:07:52]   that's what that Test shows us we also get info from the maximum RPMs that's also very important because this test is a loaded thrust test where it's not flying through the air and there's

[02:08:04]   only a split second when you first Hammer the throttle that that loaded RPM test makes sense as soon as it starts accelerating you've got incoming air and the and that changes the game and so

[02:08:16]   that maximum rpm that's when it's hurdling across the room with a ton of incoming air so when we compare the loaded RPM to the Max RPM that's when we get the full picture of like is the

[02:08:29]   motor over propped is it under propped what's the propeller doing but this little loaded FL flight test that we just did which you don't have to have this adjustable power supply you can

[02:08:39]   just do that with a freshly charged battery put the freshly charged battery on with four Motors bang bang bang bang it's not going to discharge enough to make a difference even if it

[02:08:48]   does you're testing prop a prop B prop prop a prop B so you'll get if between these two you see like a dra you'll you'll figure it out you've got two different things you can

[02:09:00]   compare to make sure that the voltage isn't sagging too much if it really bothers you put the battery on the charger make sure it's done plug it in run one motor put it back on the charger

[02:09:10]   wait till it's done plug it back in blah blah blah chonan says see above for RPM air 75 on new props also good to note that the frame broke prop survived that's true that is true as soon as that

[02:09:25]   frame broke it put more more energy into those props but those are the 1 mm props the hubs are fine on those it's these that I'm worried about the hubs on because they didn't increase the

[02:09:37]   size of the hub for these 1.5 mm motor shaft props and if the 45 mil props are anything to go on I I think that we might be able to break these not with not a ton of

[02:09:58]   difficulty but we'll see maybe they're just durable enough if they're just durable enough and they only break every once in a while I might be okay with that it depends right if you're

[02:10:09]   going to gorilla whoop in spots that are unrecoverable a propeller that could blow up at the Hub on top of a building is a problem but different gear for

[02:10:25]   different uses that's cool that that that we've got this option and maybe you never crash and if you never crash the HQ props are probably going to be the

[02:10:37]   move I have a feeling that these will once they're in the air unloaded I have a feeling that these might make the same amount of power or there's a chance that they

[02:10:50]   could make more power if they let the motors really unload it really depends like if you go way too high on the KV boy these props are hard to get started the the bottom of the propeller is completely

[02:11:05]   flat HQ I'm sorry GemFan they put a little bevel on the bottom of the prop so that it's makes it a lot easier to like get it started on the motor HQ doesn't do that

[02:11:18]   and it's just it's just annoying man they are like just they I would not want these to be a even a fraction of a fraction of a millimeter smaller inner diameter wise they are like just

[02:11:37]   barely there what that means is they'll never fly off the motor shafts but they might be a pain in the ass to get off of there so there you go another battery let's see how it is

[02:11:54]   oh my God it's 12:15 already Jesus can't believe we're only two builds in Hell okay here we go Moss one says please set up your race seat and orbit's so the race seat is set

[02:12:07]   up I run it there now that I have psvr2 I don't pull it out in the middle of the room anymore it's really nice it was just like a little bit annoying to have to pull it out in the

[02:12:17]   middle of the room I mean also psvr2 was the coolest thing on earth all right so I'm trying to see about the power it's got less power it's still got it's got plenty of

[02:12:37]   power for what it is but for a 1 s75 but the gem fans make more power oh God hey oh come on really how did I not I thought I was going to be clear that see like it still has decent

[02:13:12]   power I will take this better response time with a tiny little bit less power every day of the week and twice on Monday Sunday whatever H it is that was sketchy that felt

[02:13:30]   Reckless hey I haven't flown any of these upstairs so I'm not going to start now cuz that'll affect the runtime upstairs is a what I'll fly the 2S rig upstairs wow that was

[02:13:46]   close I closed my eyes on that one just right at the last second though oh I didn't drop elev I thought I could just boy I'll have you notice that there's no oh damn it there's no low there's

[02:14:11]   no core temperature warnings I haven't crashed it somewhere unrecoverable yet let's let's simulate that I'll also have you notice I mean yes it's a little bit unfair to fly the gem

[02:14:25]   fans first and then the hqs but you'll oh there's the core temperature warning back okay so maybe they're not significantly better balanced and I think I'm seeing a little

[02:14:38]   Jello actually I I have crashed him a bunch one of the problems with the HQ ultral lights even though they're they're they seem to sometimes be better balanced out of the packaging with

[02:14:51]   with them being more fragile they will get bent up in crashes and they will come out of balance so the jello that I'm seeing is potentially from some of the crashes that have

[02:15:05]   happened so far but basically I don't necessarily think unless and I'll look when I'm done this battery I'll look to see if any of these props are bent up but initial

[02:15:22]   Impressions here are that either the GemFan 1610 1 and half mm shaft props are properly balanced or these might be there's no difference in in balance it doesn't look like between either of the oh there

[02:15:46]   you go and it's stuck either of the 1.5 m prop options with the 1 mm prop options there's a difference what sorry with the 1 millim versions of these props there's a

[02:16:09]   difference that all make sense everybody still with me I'm going pretty deep down the rabbit hole here friends if you're getting lost it's not you man it's this is what we do

[02:16:24]   I'm going to spin these up in Turtle mode as slow as I can and that'll tell me if one prop is is banged up three of them are completely fine now the props are fine I'm

[02:16:44]   surprised that that there's any Jello-O what I'm gonna say is I don't think that these are any better balanced than the GemFan 1610s fuzzy

[02:16:57]   boy oh God 180 is way too high look how quick it came down oh Teddy homeboy almost got a free haircut 3.52 at a hover we get another couple seconds

[02:17:24]   here ah with quicker response time with lighter weight propellers you crash less I still crash but I definitely do crash less ah I over discharge the battery a little bit take like 10 seconds off that

[02:17:42]   runtime like 350 is what I would say the runtime is with this I forget what the run time was with the 1610s sorry guys maybe somebody in chat will be nice enough to go back and look let me get

[02:17:54]    caught up on chat real quick witch cat says do you have any suggestion for the best analog FPV monitors for DVR and Amazon V3 isn't really the best and I figur I could ask for a good

[02:18:08]   recording monitor for the holidays I have no idea if the but if the hd0 monitor will work with analog that's certainly going to be the best because the HD zero DVR is Magic it de

[02:18:22]   interlaces and it also doesn't skip frames as often so that would be the best all right caught up on chat so there you go yeah HQ ultral lights fly great on there absolutely

[02:18:42]   fantastic and they run properly around the inside of the duct I will be leaving this on the the HQ props next up is cloud Hoppers build 36,000 KV 07 802s that are hand wound I need to

[02:18:56]   get this build onto the lighter camera I have one right here I'm going to do it right now because it won't take long at all watch this we're going to weigh this before and after this is going to be a

[02:19:16]   long live stream tonight hope you didn't have any plans for Thursday I mean Christmas is a week away what are you really doing tomorrow you're not going to do at work be

[02:19:27]   honest the weight with I'll just take it off and weigh it all right check this out so what cloudhopper did here since the runam nano3 is no longer available one of the

[02:19:42]   camera options one of the camera canopy options is the the new school mobula 7 canopy that has screw mounting on this side I'm going to show it to you in a minute and if you do that now you can

[02:20:00]   run any of the cameras that have the any of the 14 mm cameras that have the screw holes in the side in this case I believe he's got a cadx ant in here I'll tell you in a

[02:20:13]   second but what I need to do is pop this up so that I can get access to the camera plug and so that means going all right there we go and so we've got

[02:20:31]   this and this and so let's unplug that okay come on come on come on come on there we go oh and I'm going to have to unplug this antenna this is a very cool customade L style antenna that cloud Hopper

[02:21:01]   made a bunch of but he like melted a hole in the back of the frame to just barely fit this through and so in order to get it in order to switch these canopies I got to pull it out I

[02:21:12]   got to unplug it and pull it out but luckily this is an old school aiio that's not Ultra Ultra Ultra lightweight and so I can actually unplug ufls I don't know a couple of times before it

[02:21:24]   rips off the rips off from the from the board I'm gonna try to just make this hole a little bit bigger because that is just just annoying enough and I might be able to

[02:21:40]   just kind of do that with set of tweezers that I run around in there possibly I think that's probably just about right give it a little bit more for okay so old school mobula 6 canopy

[02:21:56]   with runcam nano3 God I wish they didn't discontinue this camera man is 2.31 GS new school mobula 7 canopy with kx's ant so 2.31 versus 3.51 so 1.2 G difference that's

[02:22:26]   that's a real amount of weight man like that's there's no getting around that I also don't like the catx ant as a camera I I think it's does not do well indoors and so not my

[02:22:42]   favorite so away we go I got these longer screws on here I just need to plug this different camera in here I think it's pins down right 1.2

[02:23:05]   grams it's a lot man it's hard to save 1.2 grams on a tiny Whoop That is not easy to do especially without like wrecking durability right and we're actually you know

[02:23:19]   what's really funny is we're actually improving durability the old school mobula 6 canopy is a tank the new ones are they're not bad but they're not tanks the the new style

[02:23:34]   canopy which I'm going to show you right now so here's what here's the difference in in how they look this is the new canopy with the screw mounts in the side right I find

[02:23:49]   this canopy breaks I I think it's down in here somewhere but regardless it's nowhere near as durable and here's the old school upside down ball sack my 6 canopy this is also a

[02:24:03]   harder plastic than this this is a softer plastic and typically with these canopies and these frames the softer the pl IC the better up to a point right if it's too soft it'll be like wobbly like

[02:24:24]   for a frame for example you can't go too soft just like in the bedroom don't go too soft friends the ladies don't love it ladies love just never mind let's not go any F farther with

[02:24:42]   that all right cool so here's this excellent little micro micro micro micro V this is even lighter than a micro thus my calling it the micro micro micro let's put this back on here

[02:25:05]   this is a beautiful build by the way Cloud Hopper outdid himself with this and it is just incredibly kind that he sent this to me and saidbeat the living hell out of it I kind of thought

[02:25:16]   that he sent it like for me to just like check it out and not demolish it and then like send it back in one piece not mangled and he was like nah dude mangle it and keep it

[02:25:30]   and I'm like wow okay that's pretty rad thank you dude oh you little fiddly bastard get in there this antenna is very short so that makes it hard to plug in but I think I

[02:25:51]   just got it's on there there he goes cool all set and then canopy go down put it through there n this is fine this will be fine all right there we go hopefully this is one of the good

[02:26:17]   Nano 3s that doesn't have that stupid purple junk in the top right corner you'll get to see when I get to see it I just pulled it out of the box most of my extra Nano 3s at this

[02:26:35]   point are either the ultra bright ones from emac that came on the Nano hawk or or the weirdo ones that had that a cord purple on the top on on the left side I don't have many of the good Nano

[02:26:56]   3s left a year or two ago probably closer to no like two years ago I had a bunch of the really good Nano 3s with the Glass Lens but they got broken in Maggie's old rental place

[02:27:14]   where that had that really cool railing in up above and in front of the front door that we would dive down I miss flying that dude that that was a an awesome spot to

[02:27:24]   fly I wish I'd had some of these Mega powerful Mega lightweight rigs back then but also I was nowhere near as good of a pilot back then even flying those rigs with where I'm

[02:27:42]   at now as a tiny woop freestyle pilot that's a thing it's a job description right there I could I could do a lot more in that space nowadays one of the things that's

[02:27:54]   happened over the years is I've I've been able to basically just like speed up speed speed my reaction time up and that's really really important when you start to fly these things hard because it just

[02:28:09]   like it's things are happening so much faster than with big outdoor stuff 3in 5 in big Power stuff just because stuff inside the house is so much closer together right like all the

[02:28:23]   gaps are closer everything is it's like the cube and then another Cube It's like go go go go whereas outside it's just like a hole in the roof and then a door and they're a

[02:28:33]   couple hundred feet away right and so the pacing when you're flying inside is a lot quicker and it's taken me a long time to kind of adapt to that all right so this is on the GemFan 1610s

[02:28:47]   these are the last two 1S 450 MH batteries that I've got dizilla got his RC and power Tona 2 19,000 the mail day you got orange e danilla if you do a I have a

[02:29:04]    I have a tiny whoop 180 Dee BT 2.0 LED thing in Orange if you do an Etsy order I'll sell it to you for $5 I've already made it's here somewhere if you do an Etsy order throw something out on the

[02:29:26]   order that's $5 and then put in the note remove so and so item and swap in the orange Bing Bong and I'll swap it in for you if you're interested it's here

[02:29:44]   somewhere I think it's in here look at this thing thing I love these things so much if can can you guys tell there it is there's the orange one I just love them they're also lighter

[02:30:00]   than the 180 degree BetaFPV Bluetooth Bluetooth Bing Bong Bluetooth BT 2.0 when did you put the order in if you put the order in like today or yesterday I haven't shipped it yet if

[02:30:16]   you put it in before that then I've already shipped it but let me know know I'm going to put this there it's right there it's your responsibility to remember that I put it

[02:30:31]   there like tomorrow I'll look at it and be like what did I put this here for and I'll put it right back in that bag that I just took it out of here we go 36,000 KV handwound

[02:30:42]   cloudhopper motors with a cloud Hopper build on the GemFan 1610s let's see what happens when we get all the way up to 110 billion KV have you not gotten that order yet

[02:31:06]   danzel message me somewhere and let's figure that out there we go it's bt2.0 not BT 3.0 it looks like you said bt3 P might just be a sometimes I like to surprise

[02:31:28]   them so now these motors make a little bit more power give you a full throttle hit there we go so now let's disarm you can see some of the jello though

[02:31:41]   43,7 180 you can I can definitely see the jello I don't know if you guys you oh oh I got so lucky hey I forgot to weigh this I wanted to weigh this it should weigh exactly

[02:31:59]   what the other rig weighs man there is a there is a lot more Jello-O with this man it is it's so cool looking but it's really hard to get that lined up right man do I love it

[02:32:16]   though can you guys see the jello nope I turned the wrong way almost pulled it off turning the wrong way into it but not quite oh ah boy that dive is tough with these

[02:32:41]   bigger quads it's tough with all quads but it's especially tough with these fatties ah ah chair is always like right in the wrong spot I think this battery might be

[02:33:04]   jacked up because it is saggy and it's only been a minute and a half let's keep going though why no no Teddy's like why are you flying dude what the was that that

[02:33:34]   was weird come on just once just give it to me one you why is it doing that that is weird ah I over discharg this battery but I think this battery might be jacked up so

[02:33:58]   we can't really compare the run times this is a wee bed FPV battery that is ah it's poofy nope this is a Jank ass battery and then this is a non poofy wee bed battery that stinks that was

[02:34:19]   that's a shame all right so this test is kind of out the window but it's we're still going to swap the props I don't have any more batteries charged other than this

[02:34:28]   one so we'll swap the props and run this one away we go but hold on let me just oh oh oh oh oh right danilla oh God can they there's still on strike that sucks dude you're just G to have to

[02:34:46]   wait dude oh my God Cloud Hopper where the H did you get Gray 1610s from I hope message me do you have a source for these I've only been able to find the 1.5 mil shaft 1610s in this stupid blue

[02:35:01]    where'd you get these gray ones from I have like one set of these although now with these HQ props as long as they're durable it doesn't matter quite as much but hang on let me I'll

[02:35:14]   be right back hold on hold up is there a is there a what color are these what color is this this is where using markers to mark your your batteries is kind of

[02:35:41]   nice this one has no markings on it but this one's blue and so there's blue this might have previously been red this one has no color on it weird whoever just bought something

[02:36:02]   on Etsy thank you dude 802 19000s it looks like look at that Apple watch21st century holy Etsy was likebro somebody did a thing oh now I got all these batteries

[02:36:16]   mixed up which which battery is which here that was pretty cool we're in the future guys we're in the goddamn future and I don't like it one of these batteries is charged

[02:36:33]   I I now have to find it that's blue this one's red here it is I found the charged battery and it's red marker there's a chance that one of these other that's it's a BetaFPV

[02:36:51]   battery wait I already have four of those that's fine okay so that's going over here here's another red one 3.7 is this another blue one this is another blue one okay

[02:37:03]   379 380 okay I'm saving all right so the blue ones are here these guys are going but this is the one that's charged right okay 4.38 all right so we're changing the props and then

[02:37:18]    it's almost one it's 12:40 I do want to fly the 2S rig but like I don't want this stream to be over three hours all right a set of gray GemFan 1610s o how nerdy are you that

[02:37:41]   you care about that that's me kind of talking to myself but somebody else is like oh I'm jealous someone one person one person out there is like oh you son of a you got

[02:37:55]   another set of 1610s and 1 and a half mm motor shaft in Gray I need him somebody's got a an open prop rig with props in view and the the gray props like disappear and they're like oh

[02:38:12]   you bastard I need them there it is it's vanzilla this guy is like all gray and clear so we're going to do this very cool emerald green color that they also make these props in I think these are the

[02:38:28]   only two colors the smok crotch gray and this and this green this green is gorgeous that other build though has like these blue Motors the old school blue ey gal

[02:38:41]   Motors and so I didn't want to do the green I don't necessarily like green and blue if I get some red on there though that'd be cool get the RG GB thing going that'd be

[02:38:51]   fun all right we are props in so this is the the RS 0802 same deal these props fit pretty much perfect H hold on is that down all the way I guess so I guess it's down

[02:39:16]   all the way 1.5 chonan the the 1 mm 1610 you can still get those in Smoke crutch gray that's no problem it's the 1.5s that it's seems like they did a run of them and then they stopped and they never

[02:39:36]   made him again because you you used to be able to get them and now you can't the most insulting sentence I've ever said I'll be interested to see how these props are to get off that's what she

[02:39:57]   said they might be they might be really difficult to get off I'm pushing them down like at my exact limit of Force if I have to push any harder than this I drill

[02:40:16]   them I also I don't I I just noticed that the RS 0802 Motors they don't have c clips on the top I don't love that I prefer there to be a c clip up on the top of the motor shaft so I

[02:40:37]   don't know the rs's might not be the the durability they not they might not be as durable as the other half HappyModel 802s I don't know I don't

[02:40:57]   know Denzel terrible says don't you have an in with Mike with Jin Mike we used to talk all the time I I haven't heard from him in a while but I never thought to ask him

[02:41:21]   we got a little snarl on that one oh come on now oh God I just hit something hard let me make sure it's not something that's going to spill now there's no liquid on the

[02:41:40]   table immediately same thing oh better response time there was a weird it's went either it went off a off set point there or I moved the stick by accident but there was a weird little there was a

[02:42:02]   weird little thing that happened there that was kind of cool I wish I could have landed it oh for God's sakes stop it I think I crashed right in front of Teddy missed it no something's happening on

[02:42:24]   the really hard catches it's bobbling it's might be dropping an arm for a split second hold on I got to scratch my nose yeah something weird is happening ah that was a very half-ass

[02:42:44]   attempt it's not doing it every time it's done it twice though how is this possible what it's in the middle of the cube is it not Teddy I think Teddy just helped

[02:43:11]   it I couldn't tell CU I was walking across the room but did Teddy just get that unstuck is that that if so that's a first he's only ever gotten them stuck he's never gotten them unstuck I think he

[02:43:23]   might have whoa buddy boy no oh God no oh god oh that hit like a ton of bricks oh my God I went through the corner what am I I doing I just kept flying straight oh god oh Teddy

[02:44:03]   careful did the dog just get it unstuck again kind of oh man I am having just a hell of a time getting into that dive man oh I mean getting into there is not a problem it's getting out

[02:44:19]   what the was that this rig be doing some weird ass I think I just went over the top I've never even thought to try that it's CU there's no Gap up there why would I ever try that it would just

[02:44:37]   eventually happen by accident oh God try this again man I no I'm just not I'm not dialed in on this maybe that it's I swear to God it's not that difficult with the 65mm

[02:44:52]    rigs I can't believe I didn't just crash ah no it didn't need to disarm no it didn't need to disarm again oh my God I'm just I'm just doing nothing [Laughter] right Teddy go ahead get

[02:45:35]   it Teddy help me get it buddy get it kick it I am flying like a box of smashed asshol night did he just get it did I just see him get it n it was jammed it was jammed under

[02:46:02]   the under the corner pretty good he could have gotten it if he knew how to do it oh for sake what I don't get with the X12 on 2S core temperature

[02:46:21]   warnings ever oh God I ran this battery way too far downokay so the runtime as you see there that's like a minute and a half more runtime that first battery was junk this battery is

[02:46:40]   now potentially junk I didn't run it down that low but there you go a HQ ultralight 1.6s I don't think I have it in me to fly the 2S rig I'll fly the 2S rig no cuz it just takes it takes a

[02:46:57]   while we're going to leave it there 2S would be less sensitive to the the pitch of the prop because it's got so much more grunt also the 2S setup is motor limited the motor limiting does

[02:47:10]   not function in the motors tab so going up to 100% I'd be really cranking the out of those Motors that'd be a bit much that that that seems a bit violent glad Hopper rig flies great going

[02:47:27]   to fly these outside and I'll give you guys some flight footage maybe next time of what these 1S 75s fly like outside with these lighter weight propellers the response time is

[02:47:43]   better that's great but it's not it's not enough for me to say like oh 1 s is now saved 2 s is is is the way to go here's another cool thing with

[02:47:57]   2s it's going to be a lot less sensitive to the weight of the propellers so on 2S the ultra durable GemFan 1610s are kind of a no-brainer and so you can run the more durable prop and you're you're

[02:48:12]   barely sacrificing any flight characteristics on the on the 2S rigs cuz they're just so grunty they've got so much power what I mean so

[02:48:24]    almost there keep moving to get to your goal I I turned on the activity nonsense on the on the watch it's trying to convince me to it wants me to stand up and my St I've almost met my

[02:48:37]   stand goal for the day I didn't wear this when I was actually outside though so it doesn't know what it's talking about yeah I'm going to this is going to be me revisiting 1S 75s

[02:48:50]   a little bit here which some of you that are being stubborn about 2S are I'm sure are very happy to hear but on the 2S rigs I don't really think that I'm going to swap the propellers over they

[02:49:06]   have I am going to test the the tiny lifters broad daylight with the insta 360 go-to on these HQ props to see if there's any difference in jello but from what I saw tonight I

[02:49:27]   don't necessarily think that these are are significantly more balanced than the 1610 one and a half Ms Teddy holy you are just going in boy oh sorry headphone users hold on

[02:50:12]   Chang Direction got you you little I got you I'm going to feed you to the camera you've got a plastic plug inside you don't you buddy he's trying to run it out he's

[02:50:30]   trying he's trying to run so fast that the that the plug goes firing out his little butt he's still going that's what we do man that's what happens after the live streams

[02:50:48]   got to run his little ass you're a crazy little dog that good boy though let me caught up on the chat and we'll shut this down there he goes

[02:51:13]   again holy man calm down buddy by the way on on this on my dad's old Apple watch I've got a Rothman Livery campasano watch band

[02:51:34]    I had to bodge it a little bit to get it to fit's a little bit loose you can get you can get an adapter it's a it's a 20 mm wide watch band but I

[02:51:44]   think this is 20 I don't know it's 22 versus 20 or 20 2 versus 24 but it just moves a little bit but I don't notice it at all and I love it picture of teddy look at him look at that little

[02:51:58]   bird all right he's gone chonan says I have literally four of the gray ones chonan also says go look at Weeble he has 1610 1.5s in red and dark green ooh very cool the

[02:52:17]   dark green is vegan's color the red I'm very interested in though that's awesome tonian says nope Co power says just in case he didn't help get that dog a treat stat right

[02:52:29]   just in case he did help Co power says do the corner dive to the right towards the wall roll to the left into the dive I I started do I the Roll To the Left thing recently I started doing

[02:52:41]   because I want to try to get that wall ride and then into it the Roll To the Left thing what I'm noticing is it makes me run into that chair more I've also moved that Tower dive all the way over

[02:52:53]   into the corner it used to be more centered on the door so I've made it way more difficult if you'll notice that last battery I started to second to last and the last battery I started to

[02:53:04]   roll to the right just fly straight at the door and then roll to the right into it by doing that you continue to roll to the right and it's exits you a little bit better but I'd been trying that wall

[02:53:16]   ride to dive things so many times that I I think I'm used to doing it to the left now I got to get back used to doing it to the right I might bail on that wall ride to dive thing because I've not

[02:53:27]   even hit's I've never hit's I've never hit that I don't know if I can I don't know if I have it in me to do that because it's wall ride blip the throttle to wall

[02:53:38]   ride and then it's tiny little blip of the throttle to get it off the wall to clear the side of the gate and then you got to turn it like this you got to blip it again to keep it off the wall to keep

[02:53:50]   it from hitting the door and kill all that forward momentum so you've got like like a big blip to get it up into the wall ride a tiny blip a big blip to keep it from hitting the wall if you're

[02:54:01]   carrying a lot of momentum if you're carrying less momentum smaller of a blip to keep it from hitting the the door and then drop down into the dive and then another throttle blip on the ground to

[02:54:11]   to keep it from hitting the ground rather so it's like and that's just I I just it's too much there's I have limits and there there is that I just cannot do it's cool that the

[02:54:26]   18 and 19 year olds out there can do it but as a 43y old there's there are hard limits on certain tricks I'm just like nope not going to waste a bunch of time on that we're cool

[02:54:39]    Martin tanley says any experience with the insta go 3s or any variant just the go-to and it's amazing love love love the the 360 go cameras I had the go1 and then the go2 the

[02:54:53]   go3s are awful heavy the go2 is 26 G the go3s are like 38 or 39 and that's a bit much for a tiny whoop that would be like you would have you would want to build like a 2-in rig they're also

[02:55:09]   even more expensive now and I have not found the insta 360 goes to be very durable so make sure you get Geek Squad protection or or some other warranty that specifically covers

[02:55:24]   physical damage that's really important would you say action cam is greater than 04 or best internal cam for professional work for Prof the for professional work the absolute best

[02:55:38]   camera is all that matters and at the moment 04 and the DJI action 5 have the the the the quality of the image is on par with the the new GoPro Hero 12 and 13 but the 04 system and the DJI

[02:55:58]   action 5 have better low light performance so technically yes they are a little bit better but it's split in hairs there the low light performance is significantly better

[02:56:11]   though there's no arguing that some people though say that the DJI action 5 and for are a little bit too contrasty and the colors are a little bit too cartoony you can just

[02:56:24]   color grade that out people and alternatively like the heroes have more natural colors but I mean as soon as you drop anything into Premiere Final Cut or anything you're

[02:56:35]   you're moving the colors around and you can fix that kind of stuff so the better low light performance of the DJI stuff really matters because that is more actual data you can't just color grade a

[02:56:49]   GoPro Hero 12 to look as good as the action 5 or 04 it just it doesn't exist there's no data in those Shadows to bump up so realistically if I had the money I would bail on GoPro

[02:57:07]   completely and go to action fives and but what I'm kind of waiting for is ' 04 I think if we can get this built like why buy an action 5 when we can wait for the 04 system which seems

[02:57:21]   like has the same sensor same performance same everything and build it in and then have the O the 04 built into your Center whoop no fat heavy ugly un aerodynamic camera sitting up

[02:57:38]   top the re the the problem with that is that the 04 system as an FPV camera is not going to be as good as like a Vista Vista is going to be lower latency and much better low light performance

[02:57:52]   because it's just an FPV camera it's not also an HD cam so carrying around an action five or a GoPro Hero you can have a better FPV system but we'll see I'm G to I'm

[02:58:10]   I'm going to try the 04 and if it drives me insane as an FPV system maybe I'll think about changing but the whole the 04 has significantly better low light performance than the 03 and that was the

[02:58:24]   biggest problem with the 03 as an FPV cam is that it didn't have great low light performance what is what's actually really nice about using an 04 for both your HD and your FPV cam is that

[02:58:41]   when there's not enough light for good HD footage there's also not enough light for you to fly in as an FPV cam with a really good FPV system that does really good in low light

[02:58:56]    you can just keep flying into a point or you can just not realize that your HD cam is recording black right alternatively though like if if you're flying fireworks for example it's

[02:59:15]   nice to have an FPV system with like a damn near Starlight cam because then you can get home like if you're properly flying in the darkness and your your subject is

[02:59:25]   lit when you're flying the subject it kind of doesn't matter but then when you're trying to make it home having a Vista with that better low light performance that's kind of nice but

[02:59:39]   maybe the 04 is as good as the Vista in low light I I've not seen that compar I've not seen like a Nevada compared to a old school Vista setup what I can certainly say though is that a Vista

[02:59:57]   with a polar camera right like a specifically kind of low light SL starsh camera you're never going to get that kind of performance out of' 04 it's just it's one camera to do

[03:00:13]   both FPV and HD and no matter how good the camera gets there's always going to be a little bit of a there's going to be a sacrifice there right if nothing else then you set the

[03:00:30]   04 up to be properly exposed and you decide that you want it to be underexposed and look nice and dark and Moody you got to fly through that now you got to fly dark and Moody versus if

[03:00:43]   you have an external action cam you can set that to have the HD look whatever the hell you want it to and then your FPV system is is is on auto and it's going to look great you're

[03:00:54]   right what I'm saying you guys know what I'm saying chonan says the higher RPM on 2S makes the balance difference between the 1610 and hqs more apparent

[03:01:10]    but we don't typically see if if you're getting the the jello at full thve throttle yes most of the jello that I get is around cruising throttle and a little bit above cruising throttle and so all

[03:01:28]   that matters there is all up weight right the higher the all up weight the higher the cruising throttle so what what really matters is the weight of the rig because that's going to determine

[03:01:42]   what the RPM is at Cruise and that changes at different speeds of Crews right but like it usually we don't see Jello at Full Throttle so raise FPV says thanks for the 0 72s and some a30s bro you're

[03:02:02]   certainly welcome Co power says that makes sense with a constant roll you come out the bottom to the left you can snap roll 180 you can throttle blip into the snap roll to minimize lateral

[03:02:11]   thrust hard with a tiny whoop it's just it's all happening so fast like one of these 19-year-old racers they'd be able to knock that out in 14 seconds but I'm old and slow

[03:02:23]   and I also don't look I I would probably not like the way that looks right I I like a little bit more separation like I I've had to speed my flying up quite a bit for tiny whoops just because it's

[03:02:36]   tiny whooping inside the house and things are going to happen faster but I try to slow things down as much as I possibly can because it looks better and so I would rather those

[03:02:49]   tricks that are going to require me to like put a bunch of inputs right on top of each other right like like the stick bang stuff like the vanny rolls like all that nonsense right I hate the way that

[03:02:59]   stuff looks it's too much let your viewer relax let your viewer not have their eyes bleed is my is my motto thanks for hanging friends it's 1:00 a.m. go to bed I'll see you guys on

[03:03:15]   Friday here's the the battery from the beginning of the live stream 2S 0802 X12 M7 V3 phenomenal most of the parts from a mobula 7 1S elrs but then changed over to 2S much much much better

[03:03:37]   than Lighty years better than this rig on 1S these motors are trash for 1S love you bye see you Friday cv.com support me I'll keep doing it if not I'll die oh work mixes up rolling the all

[03:05:25]    down awesome uh maybe oh my God never give up never give up o I love it so much I love flying these 275s