

[00:02:01] hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti welcome to Sunday Q&A that was very similar to what we're going to get out of the 2S 75mm 04 light rigs what you were just
[00:02:17] watching is this custom build that we've been working on for the last I don't know six plus months with WalkSnail which M I have to make a huge correction from Friday's stream thanks to crom over
[00:02:34] on my Discord he managed to get his 04 light already and put it on an actual scale Team honos thank you for subscribing to the channel friend it's looking like the' 04 light is only
[00:02:50] going to actually be one extra gram heavier than the WalkSnail light for the record when I say' 04 light what I mean is just the regular they just call it the 04 it's not the 04 Pro it's just
[00:03:04] the regular 04 I will be calling it The 04 light because it's designed to be outrageously light and it just makes more sense that way okay and so like when I give the the weight so when
[00:03:20] I talk about the WalkSnail light setup the weight that I give is six gram six extra grams that's what we talk about as payload right it's the the VTX the camera 6
[00:03:35] G is no antenna because regardless of regardless of what video system you run you have to run an antenna right and so to me the antenna weight is is not factored into the payload because you
[00:03:52] have to run it regardless right and the reason that we're talking about payload with the WalkSnail light is that there are AIO available with analog builtin so for an analog tiny
[00:04:07] whoop or 3in or whatever in that case there is almost what I mean it's built right in there's no additional weight right and analog tiny whoops are kind of like the
[00:04:21] standard right that's what we've been flying forever and so when I've always said six G it's actually 6 point something G but I can't remember decimal point places the six extra gam for the
[00:04:36] walks snail light is only referencing the camera the mypp cable and the actual board itself once you factor in the antenna the 30 gauge cables it ends up being 8 something G and crom put
[00:04:55] his 03 light on the scale and it was like 9 something gr so I'm kind of waiting until mine shows up which God only knows when it'll be I ordered it the day that it came out from get FPV
[00:05:12] which is only one state away but then the following day we got one inch of snow here in Georgia and the entire South lost its not the whole the entire State completely lost its mind and
[00:05:28] everything has been shut down since since Thursday which is completely annoying because I've got a mailbox full of stuff waiting to go out to you guys from the giveaways from the first Monday
[00:05:39] of every month from the 12-hour Christmas live stream that we did and so annoyed at that but eventually the oh my God Ian's in the chat and he says if you want weights I can
[00:05:51] give them now man dude yes please please please Ian if you can give me the weight of just the board I will weigh this I have plenty of WalkSnail light vtx's that have blown up on
[00:06:06] me I'm at four now I will weigh a WalkSnail light VTX with with and without grommets now well this one I have one with a dude that would be amazing if if you can give me
[00:06:25] the weight of the camera the weight of the camera and the cable and then the weight of just the actual board that would be absolutely amazing so let's take a quick look at the
[00:06:40] weight I'm going to jump into chat and we're going to talk about some stuff in a minute but let's just Dive Right into this because we've got Ian and that's amazing by the way guys if
[00:06:51] you're not subscribed to madtech what is wrong with you what are you doing you need to be subscribed to madtech Ian is amazing he's hysterical he is a wealth of knowledge and just super nice
[00:07:04] guy a nice human being here on Earth 5.26 G for the WalkSnail light with the heat spreader thing removed what did I just say call it 5.25 that's easier to remember
[00:07:20] 5.25 with the heat spreader on and rubber grommets good Lord the little heat spreader thing I don't know if it's actually called a heat spreader I call it a heat sink but
[00:07:33] then somebody called it a heat spreader and now for some reason I I've been saying heat spreader the heat spreader I believe is 1.2 gam I didn't realize the rubber
[00:07:46] grommets were this heavy with the rubber grommets and the heat spreader 7.25 G two full extra Gams that's kind of crazy to everybody subscribing welcome I
[00:08:01] have I have one of the little heat sinks here I saved one of them so that I could weigh it for the record I might be getting completely away from WalkSnail uh these these three blown up walks
[00:08:24] snail light vtx's all together have less than I think a 100 batteries on them I've got two of these WalkSnail lights on 1 s whoops that have actually lasted a while
[00:08:44] but I haven't flown them much I don't know man I've been having a hell of a time with these WalkSnail light vtx's and it's not from crashing it's not from too much
[00:08:57] voltage going through them they're just randomly dying DJI stuff is like the complete opposite of that in that like you kind of can't kill it and so if the 04 light is really only one extra
[00:09:20] gram that's that might be sort of the kiss of death for for me at least for WalkSnail there's lots of stuff that WalkSnail does well I really like the the WalkSnail light system when it
[00:09:33] works but it needs to work and this 2S rig I never fly it because it's always down because these this this is the fourth WalkSnail light and this one might actually be my fault that has
[00:09:53] let go the previous three were not my fault I absolutely love WalkSnail and I want their stuff to work so bad and I would love and I probably will keep one of these WalkSnail 65mm tiny
[00:10:08] whoops together but like man it's been rough I feel like all I I feel like I've gotten really behind on a lot of other stuff because all I'm doing is taking apart WalkSnail rings and putting them back
[00:10:26] together like this 2S 7 75mm WalkSnail rig is so much fun to fly but like I fly five or 10 batteries and then the VTX dies for no reason and then I spend a bunch of time swapping it and then it
[00:10:42] happens again oh my God madtec just put the the the 04 light by itself just like this on the scale and the scale says 5.5 G and when I put this WalkSnail light with the heat sink removed
[00:11:03] on the scale it says 5.2 G the 04 lightboard is lighter than the WalkSnail lightboard because this has the heat sink removed which is not a great idea that it overheats in like 20 something
[00:11:23] seconds or 30 something seconds with the the camera is heavier though the 4 camera is 1.84 G I don't have one floating around here but I I can all but guarantee you that the WalkSnail light camera is
[00:11:42] lighter weight because the the and the cable is point4 grams Ian thank you so much dude my God super super super helpful Ian is posting these over on my Discord which is linked over at C fv.com
[00:11:57] if you want to see the actual pictures of his scale render correctly saying Bardwell says the 04 light overheats in like 30 seconds in his new video all of these all these digital vtx's are going
[00:12:07] to overheat really fast the the other reason that removing the heat sink from the 04 light is a bad idea is because it's a son of a to get off of there and you have to really
[00:12:20] pry on it to get it off which is with how fragile these are like that's not a good idea so okay well so the previous the the live stream I did Friday was called The Good the Bad and the Ugly with
[00:12:38] DJI 04 and the only ugly was the extra weight when when I thought that it was 10 G that's an extra four G at the time in my head that was an extra four GRS over WalkSnail light um what I'm
[00:13:00] realizing now is that it's not it's not at all antenna camera cable connector to connector cable if you decide to go plug andplay from the VTX to an AO which we're going to talk about
[00:13:15] the aios that are available here that's the main topic of this live stream 9.26 grams on Ian scale so DJI 04 light I said on the last live stream that the 04 light is not a walks
[00:13:38] snail killer yes it is yes it is it is Ian is also giving these weights without the little cover on the camera I think the little cover on the camera might add a fraction of a
[00:14:00] gram but the long and short of it here is that it's about one extra gram one extra Gram on a 65mm 1S rig is not nothing but it's not nearly enough to o and crom just took a
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[00:20:13] what were we talking about things the Discord if you scroll down a little bit farther there's a link to the Discord and in the general nonsense text Channel which is open to everyone there
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[00:20:36] crom and Ian from madtech are posting all of the weights that that we want which is amazing but the long and short of it is DJI 04 light is about one G heavier one G is not nothing but boy oh
[00:20:57] boy am I fed up with with the lack of quality control with these WalkSnail Light vtx's In fairness WalkSnail does have a repair service if if some of their stuff Fails Like if you buy some
[00:21:14] of something of theirs and it fails like right away they'll probably fix it or or replace it for free the I typically don't buy something and then build with it right away and so I'm way out of
[00:21:29] that window for this stuff when you're out of that window from what I've been told it's basically 50% of the value of the item so I will probably send these in for repair SL replacement
[00:21:44] and then I think the the WalkSnail light system is like 70 or 80 bucks so it'll be like 35 or $40 per or you can buy DJI stuff that like you can machine gun and it manages to
[00:22:00] never die I I've I've never had a single DJI component let go it's I I don't understand how they're so durable I do understand how they're so durable it's a big company and and
[00:22:16] they they're spending time and effort and money on QC and whatnot but I the the O really the only other ugly with the 04 light is that it won't take direct 1S voltage so these builds that I've got
[00:22:45] for 1S with WalkSnail light at the moment will not work with 04 what I would have to do is get a 5V Step Up regulator and run it externally which on a tiny whoop sucks because it
[00:23:02] adds a significant amount of weight it's going to add like another gram or two of weight and we're already adding one gram and it's hard to package it's hard to find a spot for that right these builds
[00:23:13] are very tight but BetaFPV is about to launch a new F4 5 amp I think it might be 12 amp actually but a new AO that's super lightweight it's down like this old school AIO that we've used a ton with
[00:23:33] a 5V becc on board and a plug header so that you'll actually be able to just plug and play the 04 light with the cable that it comes with which is pretty gnarly the the only real complaint
[00:23:49] that I have about that aiio is that they put that plug header up on top and so packaging is going to kind of be a pain in the ass I have looked pretty closely as close as I can at the
[00:24:07] bottom of the 04 light AO from the pictures that are on the internet right now and it looks like the bottom of the the 04 light not AO VTX it looks it's pretty flat there are no like big
[00:24:20] plugs sticking down that are going to make a nightmare for us trying to stack these two boards on top of each other so we should be okay it's I I wish that they had put that jst plug on the bottom
[00:24:36] because on the bottom of these aios where the battery is we have plenty of space right that's where all the racers put well used to put their uh their vtx's and so it's like wasted space down
[00:24:52] there so I mean no you can't flip the aiio upside down because well you could flip the AIO upside down but never mind no you can't cuz there's a USB port down there sorry
[00:25:05] never mind NOP you can't flip the AIO upside down the USB port would be sticking up and that's much taller also the motor plugs are there all right you can direct side of the motors
[00:25:16] don't it's a nightmare it just makes serviceability such a pain in the Ace and so that that that that seems a little shortsighted but welcome to FPV so that's still a
[00:25:36] thing but I mean very soon you'll be able to buy a frame motors screw the motors down an AO you plug the motors into the AO a 4K VTX with camera that you'll be able to
[00:25:57] plug into the AI the canopy situation is is we're going to see the the right it just came out so of course there's not a whole lot of canopies there there already are a couple
[00:26:11] canopies starting to pop up rest assured I will begin bugging the out of Timmons sooner than later to do a version of the Batwing Mount that we've been using for the 04 light that's
[00:26:27] going to work on the I'm sorry the WalkSnail light that's going to work on the 04 light camera so as soon as possible we will have a Ultra minimalistic super as lightweight as
[00:26:43] possible little TPU Mount that hooks onto the front well that that hooks onto the hooks of the Cockroach 65 V3 frame and puts the camera up here holds the camera nice and level prevents the
[00:26:59] camera from rotating sideways like you get from some of the carbon fiber frames out there that you should stay away from so that you can have a build that's nice and lightweight and
[00:27:09] performs as good as possible on on 1S right like the the extra weight of the WalkSnail system which is one less gram it looks like than the DJI 04 light it has a huge impact on the way that ons
[00:27:30] rigs fly and you could argue and you would not be wrong that 1S is a nogo for the DJI 04 light this is the little guy that I Ed to chase the RC drift
[00:27:47] cars and the difference in flight performance with this one that's got WalkSnail on board versus the two that I've got that are analog only is on unbelievable this is still totally flyable and
[00:28:02] this is very fun but I can do much more with the analog rigs that are basically six G lighter oh they what I bet you that's where the six G number comes from hold on hold on let's weigh
[00:28:20] them this is a perfect way to look at the actual the ACT actual weight difference between analog and WalkSnail right like that's what matters what what it doesn't actually matter
[00:28:35] what the the 04 light system weighs what matters is when you do a build with the aiio that you need the frame that you need the motors that you need right when you do an 04 light 65mm tiny whoop or
[00:28:50] in this case a WalkSnail light 65mm tiny whoop the dry weight with all the things that you're going to put on it versus the dry weight of analog that's what matters right that's what the
[00:29:00] system weighs that's what the extra payload is so 24 let's just call it 24.5 gram it's actually 24.4 24 and a half grams with WalkSnail
[00:29:15] analog 18.5 there's your six grams my friends these two builds both have 0702 Motors they're both on cockroach V3 frames slightly different propellers but they weigh about the same they've
[00:29:36] both got the the Batwing mounts they both have true RC Singularity antennas this is on a this is on a mobula 6 20124 AO this is on the BetaFPV AO that doesn't have a
[00:29:58] an analog VTX in it right and that's why that's why it matters this a is a little bit lighter because it doesn't have a VTX built in this AIO is a little bit heavier because it does have right
[00:30:12] and so there is an actual weight for an analog VTX obviously what I mean and so that's where my six g i after the last live stream when I saw crom weigh those things I I had
[00:30:27] like an ex existential meltdown of like man how dumb am I I've been saying six G all this time where the hell did I get six G from here's where I got six grams from and that that's great
[00:30:41] so in that same vein the the well we have to wait so we have to wait to see what the BetaFPV AIO is going to weigh it will probably not be quite as lightweight as this AIO here
[00:31:04] because this AIO does not have a 5volt backck and that jst plug up on top so we're going to gain roughly one gam from 04 light versus WalkSnail light and then we're probably going to gain a
[00:31:22] fraction of a gram from that is probably going to be the lightest weight AO and it'll probably be ever so slightly heavier than this aiio that I'm running in this guy so
[00:31:36] we'll probably gain my guess would be a gram and a half the extra the reliability of DJI and the fact that we will have 4K and 1080 up to 120 frames a second that's kind of sort of game over
[00:31:59] for me I I I I like WalkSnail a lot I like them a little bit less every single time one of these light aios die vtx's die but I mean what I'm
[00:32:23] saying alliances only go so far I think WalkSnail is still probably the right solution for some people though but that's not what this stream is about we'll we'll do a stream in the
[00:32:39] future really diving into who WalkSnail s for because there's always the the dj4 stuff is it's not going to be a WalkSnail killer it's going to there
[00:32:54] are going to be some scenarios where it's going to be a better option than WalkSnail for sure sure but it's not going to like wipe WalkSnail off the face of the Earth
[00:33:04] that that's silly so get that out of your head but for me and look I I have an 04 Pro on the way as well that I'm going to be building into a brand new sinis blor in the in the sinis blore 2
[00:33:23] frame and so I which I'm super excited about because that'll be a cplor that doesn't have to carry around an action camera so I'll be saving 120 grams which is insane and so for me right I have
[00:33:43] to buy goggles 2 or goggles 3 it's bugs the out of me even though I'm a live streamer or whatever it bugs the hell out of me to have to have analog goggles HD zero
[00:33:58] goggles WalkSnail goggles DJI version one goggles DJI version 2 goggles goggles 2 go right it's just so obnoxious and for me and also like I don't necessarily have the money to dump into a whole
[00:34:16] bunch of these 04 vtx's and a new set of goggles for me there is going to be and already is a massive temptation to sell the WalkSnail goggles sell all of the WalkSnail stuff that I have get
[00:34:33] the light vtx's repaired and then move those along and use that money to fund new DJI 04 stuff especially because I will finally now be upgrading my live broadcast setup that I've been
[00:34:50] using for America Criterium cup National cycling League over the past few years into 1080 output and that's going to be expensive that's going to mean Cosmo streamer new set of goggles of
[00:35:07] course so there I'm going to need to shift some money around that up so my my current live broadcast setup is on Old School DJI and the new Cosmo streamer is
[00:35:24] going to be like 600 bucks right like a set of either goggles 2 or goggles 3 is going to be another two three 400 I'm going to have to buy at least one or two more 04 Pros which are expensive I'm
[00:35:40] probably going to fall down the rabbit hole and get with the 04 light stuff and get at least one more 04 light so for me personally the 04 stuff is is is
[00:35:58] amazing but I'm I'm flying professional gigs for those of you that are not flying professional gigs what is the draw of 04 over WalkSnail if if your WalkSnail stuff is
[00:36:15] not if you're not dealing with the failure rates that I'm dealing with on WalkSnail the latency is about the same the video quality is it's not about the same but like why does it matter right for
[00:36:29] 99% of people that 99% of people are not doing gig work and so what does it matter if you have 4K versus 1080 is is that going to make your enjoyment of flying any different in the goggles it's
[00:36:46] 1080 anyway what does it matter when you come back to your computer that your DVR is in 4k versus 1080 if you're flying for fun I if you have an answer to that question
[00:37:00] that's totally fine that that's completely fine but I'm challenging you right now to really ask yourself that question because if that footage is just going to sit on your
[00:37:10] desktop and you're going to show your friends and family they don't give a like if you think that in the future it's funny the the Fiverr sessions the the build planning
[00:37:21] sessions on Fiverr I have this big long list of questions that I ask everybody to get dialed in on the perfect build for them a bunch of those questions are surrounding like what do you do with
[00:37:31] your flight footage what is the future for for FPV for you are you getting a whole bunch of footage that you're going to cut together in a reel and then you're going to try to get professional
[00:37:42] gig work if so the dj4 system is important to you if not does it really matter WalkSnail is great it's cheaper it's lighter in some cases right like the the
[00:37:58] I mean it's a little bit lighter on the WalkSnail light but when you look at like the the other WalkSnail stuff their regular single stack 25x 25 this is lighter than the than the DJI
[00:38:13] 04 Pro flying a lighter rig you're going to get more runtime you're going to get to do the thing that you love more per battery and it's it's going to fly better it's literally going
[00:38:27] to fly better cuz it's lighter so I I nothing against WalkSnail at all but for me personally for my needs I have a funny feeling that it's all going to
[00:38:42] go but don't let that don't just blindly follow me on that you make make sense right don't just like the WalkSnail s made some really cool products and they're they have the repeater
[00:38:56] they're doing a great thing much like hd0 I absolutely love that WalkSnail exists it's just that at this point I don't know if it's the right system for me and I have a limited budget and so
[00:39:15] selling the goggles selling a bunch of the vtx's is is probably what's going to happen but again if you have walk s and you love it that's totally cool I have loved it up until few days ago and
[00:39:30] I actually kind of still love it but a new Challenger has arrived and I I think when I really weigh out all the pluses and minuses that it makes sense for me to swap over madtech says
[00:39:45] question for you Ciotti why did you choose Avatar over hd0 for nonpr workk to me hd0 has has none of the benefits and kind of all of the negatives basically so when I look at like analog it's
[00:40:04] the cheapest it's the lightest weight it's the most reliable it's been around forever totally known quantity I still have professional so these two rigs right here I bring on professional
[00:40:18] gig work and they are both analog if there's something weird going on with the DJI stuff I can fire up analog and I can fly it's like a known quantity it's done hd0 has been super buggy for me
[00:40:32] the goggles have been buggy multiple different versions of the firmware have not really changed that and then the video quality of hd0 is not good enough to Warrant the
[00:40:45] extra weight the extra cost and the extra bugginess right so then we've got WalkSnail which does have the the the better video quality right and the better link as well well so I I
[00:41:00] again I love that WalkSnail exists and for some people WalkSnail is I'm sorry not walks hd0 sorry I love that hd0 exists I love what they're doing and for some people it's perfect I'm not one
[00:41:13] of those people unfortunately and my experience with it has not been great and so the HD Z is stuck in this weird Middle Ground where like the video quality is a little bit better than
[00:41:26] analog but it's not enough better to Warrant the negatives the mainly the extra cost and the extra weight the ao5 is phenomenal most advanced PCB that we've ever had in in FPV but
[00:41:46] it's been flaky for me and it's also significantly heavier than analog even though it's only a couple of grams on a 65mm tiny whoop that's a massive difference there there's a big
[00:41:59] difference in the way that the AIO flies versus all of the all of the analog rig so it's been HD zero has kind of been heartbreaking for me because like I want to love it I
[00:42:12] really do and I've had people message me like why do you hate hd0 so much it's likeyou're you're completely wrong I love hd0 but I'm not somebody that just
[00:42:26] jumps on the bandwagon and is just like such and such for life just because like I'm it's has to perform and it has to be at the right price point and right and I'm a super I guess the
[00:42:41] word is pragmatic person in those respects and I've visited hd0 I've Revisited I've Revisited I've re Revisited and every single time I'm just left wanting a little bit more but
[00:42:57] I am a very specific human being here on Earth right I do this crazy live streaming thing I fly professional gigs I have multiple sets of analog goggles this is one of the really
[00:43:11] interesting things right that people never think about is that for somebody brand new coming into the hobby buying a set of analog goggles is kind of
[00:43:21] crazy and so buying an HD zero set of goggles and then just skipping analog completely that makes an awful lot of sense I'm not that guy I've got two sets of analog goggles an
[00:43:36] analog monitor right a an analog to USB vrx right like I'm all the way in I have a whole bunch of analog stuff just sitting here so it's free for me somebody that's new coming into the jav
[00:43:50] that's a totally different situation and so and yes the HD zero goggles will also will work with analog but you got to spend 100 bucks on an analog module for them 100 bucks is a
[00:44:02] lot of money and so it's I I am a very very specific use case sorry that's what happens when whenever stupid jargon gets introduced to my world and so you
[00:44:21] all have to make these decisions for yourself you have to have that like mental pros and cons list to figure out what is and this is why I'm so obnoxious about
[00:44:36] saying there is no best there's only different there really isn't there I in in today's live stream I made sure to put best AI for DJ for light in quotations because that's me
[00:44:51] poking fun at it there there very very very rarely is there a Best every once in a while there is and we might actually be in that situation today because and we're going to
[00:45:04] we're going to I got to get us on the topic here it's been 50 minutes already we've been ranting and raving I got to get us on the topic today's main topic is what is the best AIO for the DJI 04
[00:45:15] light for a DJI 04 light 2S 75mm build th these 2S 75mm builds are the most fun where's the other one these are the most fun that I have had flying FPV in like probably about a
[00:45:38] year 2S on 75mm with BT 3.0 on these lightweight builds is absolutely outrageous in the front in the front of your house behind your house at a jungle gym sort of even inside the house house
[00:45:57] but it's a little heavy to fly inside the house go 65 1S for inside the house it's the way but oh my God the these things in the front of this house are so much fun they have the
[00:46:11] exact right amount of power they're the exact right weight they take your front garden they take the front face of your house they take your roof of your house and they turn it into a much bigger
[00:46:24] location like if you take a 5 in rig and you go fly an office building that's like five stories tall and it's got these like big 100 foot trees out front that is like the flight experience
[00:46:39] that so many of us have really fallen in love with or even just you don't have to have the office building I'm in Atlanta so I'm very spoiled but like if you go out to a field and
[00:46:49] there's 100 foot tall trees right and big amounts of space a 5- in rig is so good and that obviously they're they're totally dialed in the the 5in propeller size is as big as you can go
[00:47:07] for the the plastic that we make our propellers out of when you go to like six and 7even inch that plastic starts to resonate at frequencies that make the the pit Loop and the filters lose their
[00:47:18] mind right and so 5-in propellers are magical and that like kind of trickles down into the rest of the build the the amount of R&D that the entire FPV fpv Community has put into 5-in
[00:47:32] builds over the last 10 years is unmatched right like we've probably spent more time as a community testing and dialing in 5- in rigs than every other prop size combined right and so
[00:47:46] 5in rigs the the the the builds themselves are utter magic and then when you fly them in a big open ish area with big tall obstacles it's perfect the the speed the acceleration the hang time
[00:48:06] everything about it fits perfectly and it's so obvious right even in in 2025 now 5 in rigs are still like the gold standard for FPV even though it's a nightmare be honest it's a nightmare you
[00:48:21] have to drive a half an hour to the spot if anybody's around if you're responsible person you're going to feel weird about killing them they're probably going to get pissed off because
[00:48:32] they're noisy as hell when you crash you bend up propellers you're constantly changing props you're breaking arms you're carrying a GoPro around which is expensive if if you're dragging
[00:48:44] a GoPro around you've got like $800 up in the sky $7 $800 up in the sky that sucks you lose the whole thing that's a lot of money right 5 in rigs are a pain in the ass be honest they're a pain in
[00:48:57] the ass they're they're dangerous right like all these issues these silly little things out in front of your house in terms of flight characteristics and the magic that
[00:49:12] is the properly sized rig in the properly sized space that's what you get in front of your house out behind your house with these little 2S 75mm rigs and that's why I've really just absolutely
[00:49:29] fallen for these when I started to do gig work I fell in love with cine whoops and the way that they fly when flying when doing subject driven flying right musicians
[00:49:47] actors January 1st a 16 story building demolition right and before that I fell in love with the way 5-in rigs flew when I built my first one five six seven years ago however long
[00:50:03] ago it was when 0702 motors came out and we we started to get high KV versions of them I fell in love with 65mm 1S rigs inside the house there
[00:50:18] are there are drones that perfectly fit in scenarios or locations that we fly and when that happens that's the magic and that's what has happened here with these In fairness a high KV
[00:50:44] 65mm 1S rig it's really fun to fly outside the house if if you haven't done it if you've only flown your 30,000 plus KV 65 mil 1S rigs inside the house take them outside take them out side on a day
[00:50:57] that's not very windy because they just get the hell beaten out of them in the wind cuz they're so light but they're really good outside that they will make outside of your house feel even bigger
[00:51:09] than these the magic of these though is that when it's windy which it there's usually a few miles an hour of wind which is a lot for a little 65mm rig when it's windy these things can handle
[00:51:22] it much better and the the extra power that these 7 Fes have on 2S allows you to do all kinds of sketchy like throw them up over trees and whatnot so it gives you that 5 in Flight experience
[00:51:36] where like when you go Full Throttle you're like what like it's too much power basically like at Full Throttle it's too much power but if you just blip Full Throttle it's controllable right in
[00:51:48] the same way that like with a 5-in rig you never really need to go full throttle and leave it there for like a full second right if you do that you'll be literally in the in the clouds
[00:51:59] these are with a with a 1S with just 1 s rigs in general there are a lot of situations where outside you have to go full throttle and leave it for like a full second and that just
[00:52:11] kind of feels underpowered right that you don't get the same confidence with that as you do with a rig that has a little bit too much power and it's a little bit like almost scary these are
[00:52:22] not scary but what I mean from 5-in rigs right first time you flew a 5-in rig and you want Full Throttle you were like right and then the second time you're like and then the 100th time
[00:52:32] you're like oo this is fun right same kind of thing so 75mm 2S absolute magic on the before we dive into 75 mil just to get it out of the way if you're going to go down the 1S 65
[00:52:53] mm 04 light Rabbit Hole the only AO that I've seen that hang on hang on let me think about well let me put it this way there there are AOS out there I think don't quote me on this
[00:53:15] but I think that there are some aios out there that have a 5V becc built in that you could technically run the the 04 light off of but those aios are all going to be
[00:53:30] heavier than the one that BetaFPV is about to put out and if you're going to do a 1S rig with 04 light you are going to have to keep track of every fraction of a gram
[00:53:46] the the WalkSnail 1S builds already suffer horribly from the extra weight of the HD o V TX and the DJI o4 version is going to be about a gram heavier and so you got to be real
[00:54:04] careful about weight and so the weight of the AI is going to be incredibly important and this BetaFPV AIO that they're about to put out is almost certainly going to be the lightest
[00:54:16] weight one you can just tell by the fact that the sides are all cut in and so the BetaFPV AO is going to be the one that you want I saw a picture it on Facebook I will not be able to find it
[00:54:29] I'm looking on their website but it's oh there it is okay I spoke too soon so this is this is going to be the one if you want to go 04 light 1S this is it almost almost guaranteed you're not
[00:54:45] going to find an AIO that's lighter weight than this it's also kind of amazing that this has this jst plug up here and it looks like they've also put pads which is awesome because if you
[00:54:58] want to really slam the the VTX down as low as possible on the AIO which will make a difference you can break this plug off and then just use these pads again I really wish that BetaFPV had
[00:55:13] put this big tall jst plug in the middle on the bottom here where we have some free space to me that's a total missed opportunity but I don't know maybe they they had to set it up this
[00:55:26] way because these the the F4 processor and God only knows what this chip is maybe they needed to be down here maybe there's a reason for it oh it also looks like this is a this does
[00:55:37] not have a USB port on it which is kind of nice that saves a little bit more weight so 1 s04 light this is it almost guaranteed this is the way that you want to
[00:55:48] go this is out oh my God okay I didn't think this was out already so I will be leaving this tab open because I need to buy one of these after the stream I'm going to do an RC drift
[00:56:03] car chasing rig with the 04 light and this is going to be the aiio that I use so the and a little bit of an apology to BetaFPV when when this first came out I I was I didn't understand it
[00:56:18] all the way and I was like what did they do I was I was upset that they didn't make it 2S capable I now understand it's does feel like a bit of a missed opportunity that they didn't make this
[00:56:31] 2s capable but I bet you it would have been bigger and heavier if they'd put a if they'd made it able to withstand the the 2S voltage and so I I kind of apologize for that this is this is
[00:56:46] amazing and this is going to be the only AO I'll bet you for a 1S light build to keep the weight as low as possible and to get half decent flight time flight performance yada y y I think I
[00:56:59] do have an affiliate link to BetaFPV so if you guys get one of these use my affiliate link please over on C fv.com okay so the topic of the live stream is H I really want to get caught up on
[00:57:15] chat hold on let me at least get the I saw a Super Chat come through mape thank you so much for the $5 Super Chat brother he says added you on Discord seems like you can use direct
[00:57:27] power if you're talking about the 04 light the the low end of the voltage that it allows is 3.7 volts so if you plug in a fresh battery yes the 04 light will boot up
[00:57:44] and it'll run you'll then take off you'll start flying it the first time that you go Full Throttle with these little 1S tiny whoops the voltage sag is ridiculous and I can almost guarantee
[00:57:56] that it will sag down below 3.7 volts and that'll Brown out the the AIO that is a problem that I have with the WalkSnail setups they are actually designed to take 1S voltage the
[00:58:12] the WalkSnail light it'll function all the way down to I think it's 3.3 volts I only get about a minute and 50 seconds of runtime from this chasing the little RC drift cars which if you
[00:58:27] haven't seen you should check out go to my go to my channel and then just click the edits playlist there's like five or six edits of me chasing RC drift cars with these things it's some of the
[00:58:36] coolest flying I've ever done so much fun I have to come in after a minute and 50 seconds at that point if I go Full Throttle it'll Brown out this VTX every single time you can run the the you can
[00:58:51] run your 300 Mah batteries all the way down to like 3.2 volts per cell on an analog GG not on these and the the the 04 light is going to be way worse because again this will this will Brown
[00:59:06] out down at 3.3 volts that's going to Brown out at 3.7 volts so you're going to get probably like 40 50 seconds in to Flying depending on how powerful of a motor you've got and then when you go
[00:59:18] Full Throttle it's going to Brown that thing out brown Out means it just shuts off and now it's going to have to reconnect and you're going to be without video for like 15 20 seconds
[00:59:26] which you're going to do that twice and then you're going to get fed up so you got to run either an external step up voltage regulator to give it a Solid 5 volts or the better bet is going to be
[00:59:38] to get that BetaFPV Matrix AO because it's got that built in and it's plug-and playay the ultimate build which I will probably do because I'm going to try to make up for that extra weight I'm going
[00:59:51] to break that jst off I'm going to direct solder those plugs hopefully there's a way to direct solder to the 04 maybe I won't though I don't know we'll figure it out you guys will get to
[01:00:03] watch me do it once Georgia figures out that one inch of snow on the ground doesn't mean that every single thing needs to shut down my 04 stuff is stuck in transit map with a $2 Super Chat he says look at
[01:00:17] the video bro What let's see what video what video I don't see it where where added you on where on Discord General nonsense maybe let me take a look there he is there's me so he has
[01:00:56] linked Jake FPV video all right let's take a look at this down here so flight controller HappyModel super xhd HappyModel super xhd so the only way all right so let's take a look at
[01:01:18] the voltage so we'll go into this battery a little bit and we'll take a look at where his voltage okay so see this 3.6 volts if the Super X AIO does not have a 5volt backck on board he would no longer have
[01:01:33] video is is it browning out right now is that why it's so dark no so at 3.6 volts here it would already be browned out so the only possibility here is that the Super X HD has a 5volt becc on board
[01:01:47] which is giving a solid 5V power source so let's take a look and there it is built-in 5vt 1.5 Amp Max becc so this Super X will work as well but it's not going to be as
[01:02:05] lightweight I'll bet you as that BetaFPV AIO it's also not going to be plug-and playay this you're going to have to direct solder some people that matters for me it doesn't I actually
[01:02:16] have Timmons sent me one of these superx aios so I will probably do my initial for light build with exactly this so that is great that is fantastic but that the only aios
[01:02:34] like I said earlier that are going to work are ones that have a 5volt back on board you're not going to be able to power the 04 light direct voltage 1S and most tiny whoop aios do not have 5volt
[01:02:48] Becks on board and the the WalkSnail light fortunately will work all the way down to 3.3 volts so there we go thank you for the super chats brother very very cool of you and thank you
[01:03:00] for linking that video that's that is good stuff all right let me let me dive into the best AO 44 light 2S 75 millim builds because there's only really three I think
[01:03:24] that that that we're going to be looking at which is okay three choices is a lot of times with tiny whoops we only have one choice so it's kind of nice that we have three choices here shout
[01:03:36] out to Frank Nicholas who did a Fiverr session with me last night he is specking out two builds and he found we knew about the Goku I kind of knew about the Newbie drone but I wasn't
[01:03:50] necessarily thinking about it and then the BetaFPV option is is what I've actually got in this so shout out to Frank we did a little session last night and it kind of made me realize
[01:03:59] that this was the perfect topic for a live stream here so the three options are flywoo Goku the three options that I know of are a flywoo Goku a newbie drone a BetaFPV here are the
[01:04:15] requirements if you want to be insanely helpful in chat and of another option tag me in the chat and let me know what it is we want an AO that is 1 to 2S or 1 to 3s
[01:04:33] but I've never seen one I've only ever seen aios that are 1 to 2S and then 2 to 4S but it's got to be 2S capable right so AIO has to be able to work with 2S and it has to have elrs on
[01:04:46] board putting an external receiver and an external VTX into a tiny whoop it's just stupid it's just it's obnoxious all right and so those are the requirements the as I say
[01:05:04] all of this I'm realizing that we have four options the the Super X is the other option so we've got we've got four options sorry guys we've got four options HappyModel Super X HD and then
[01:05:22] we're we're going to look at the other ones but those are the requirements it's got to be 2S capable it's got to have elrs on board ready go I would love for it to not have an OSD
[01:05:34] chip on board if you don't know the OSD chip is only used with analog builds and I'm going to show you why I would rather it not have an OSD chip I just have to
[01:05:52] find a picture of one basically basically it's huge the the OSD chip is gigantic and so if you're if if you're making a an AO let's look up the 2g4 what am I saying I have a 2g4
[01:06:10] sitting right here somewhere and I can just point a camera at it is this a 2g4 this is not a 2g4 this is an X12 but that's fine because it has an OSD chip on it
[01:06:27] so this big dumb come on Logitech please there you go this giant rectangular chip is an OSD chip the only thing that that OSD chip does is specifically for analog builds
[01:06:47] it gives you your OSD and so for every single HD build if you run an AO that has this OSD chip on on it all this space is being wasted you could do things like go from a 5 amp fet to a 12
[01:07:02] amp fet with that extra space right or you just have less things on the board to attract the solder blob and explode when you plug your next battery in with these HD builds we now have a
[01:07:18] bunch of aios that are available that are using that extra space from removing the OSD chip for other black box wouldn't it be nice to have black box on your on your tiny
[01:07:30] whoop that's the kind of thing that they can put into the same space that that OSD chip is is taking up and so that's what ideally it's not here's the flip side of it if you buy that AO
[01:07:46] and then down the road you decide you want to do an analog build with it if there's no OSD chip you don't do an analog chip you don't do an analog build with it rather because flying analog
[01:07:56] with no OSD sucks but that those are kind of the requirements and so let's dive into I know that there's a neutron RC AO as well I had horrible luck with two of those in a row and I
[01:08:16] I bought them from newbie drone they were one of the only places that were selling them they have stopped selling them I'm assuming because a lot of them bad QC so I don't I don't consider the
[01:08:29] neutron AIO to be a real option because there was just I'll put it this way newbie drone ended up refunding me for it rather than repairing it rather than replacing it on the
[01:08:46] second one that that's how bad the the relationship got between them and neutron so the neutron RC AIO is not a real thing as far as I'm concerned hold on I'm getting the link to
[01:09:02] the to the two other AOS up here we go so all right we're going to go on a little bit of a tear here we're we're going to actually take a look at a couple of binding flies that are being
[01:09:22] made as well there's the Goku and then there's the Newbie come on Canon fix your software Bros hang on Friends Canon's new EOS webcam utility software is
[01:09:47] horrible and it does this once per live stream for everyone that's using Canon cameras right now it is a complete joke for one of the biggest camera companies on Earth boy oh boy they need to fix
[01:10:05] this come on usually it comes back to life quicker than this oh dude really hold on let me turn the camera off and on again did you try turning it off and on again sure
[01:10:24] did okay it should come back to life this time oh or not hold on close oh the application is hung up that's what's going on okay let's try this again oh
[01:10:51] man danilla terrible says it's the 69 minute curse does it always happen at 69 minutes you guys are know better than me let's try this again here it
[01:11:05] comes and what it always comes that's the that's the timing it always comes back to life when it clicks there it comes there it is thanks a lot
[01:11:22] Canon dicks okay so here we go Super X HappyModel Super X HD AIO 12 amp fets 1 to 2S B elrs on board awesome I have not I have not run the HD version of this before I have had
[01:11:49] questionable reliability with HappyModel Super X the the non HD AIO in the past so I don't know I don't have a lot of experience with any of these
[01:12:03] options but I don't know I've had great experience with the HappyModel 2g4 AO that is in my experience the absolute most durable tiny whoop AO of all time and so I I'm sure that some of that
[01:12:22] must have rubbed off on on this but see like the problem here is that HappyModel also makes the diamond AO which is hands down the worst AIO tiny whoop AIO ever made and so when you've
[01:12:37] got the best and the worst like I end up in the middle somewhere so the the if you've had a good experience with if you've had any experience with the HappyModel Super X HDO leave it in the
[01:12:52] chat for everybody it's not a webcam Kevin Smith it's a it's a digital SLR so there's no throwing it in the trash and I can't really afford to buy fancy camera gear so I I whatever extra
[01:13:06] money I have goes towards buying stuff to actually test that are FPV related so so it I'm not going to say that it's super durable I'm also not going to say that it's junk I have one here I will
[01:13:22] be using it and you guys will get to see live if it's okay we've also got the flyo Goku f405 HD version 2 1 to 2S again 12 amp fets beol s elrs on board I don't know anything about this flywoo AO other
[01:13:45] than they're using it in their Vision 40 their new 04 light Vision 40 Tyler gross FPV over at rotor Riot is who I I'm 99% sure he handles all of their micro their micro boards sorry
[01:14:08] their micro builds Tyler is a great guy I I get to spend a little bit of time with him every year at Rampage and I absolutely love the little bit of time that we get to hang out together
[01:14:17] he's a busy guy he knows his stuff he's been doing me and him have bounced ideas back and forth about the walk nail 2S builds 2S builds in general he's a great guy this this build is dialed
[01:14:32] right looks pretty familiar doesn't it mobula 7v3 frame RC and power 102s it's got that flywoo Goku board on it I talked to Tyler last night about this and I I basically said
[01:14:48] did you choose the the Goku board because you found it to be more durable than the BetaFPV 12 amp which I know that he knows about that we're going to talk about that board in a second or
[01:15:00] is it other reasons and I don't I don't want to necessarily like throw under the bus or anything but it's didn't have to do with durability it had nothing to do with
[01:15:14] durability so hey did not say that like yes this Goku board is way more durable he didn't say anything about durability you guys may or may not have heard that sometimes BetaFPV is kind of a pain to
[01:15:30] work with I'm not going to say anything after that so the Vision 40 is using the Goku board which is a massive thumbs up that that tells me that it's probably pretty damn durable because I know that
[01:15:43] Tyler tests stuff and I know that he's been flying these 75mm 2S boards for a long time and so I'm pretty confident that the Goku C board is a really good option this is the problem
[01:15:58] with it though it is an expensive AO you're putting aund and something dollars into the 04 light you're putting another $80 into the a you're putting another 40 something into the motors
[01:16:14] right like you're going to have a damn near $300 tiny whoop flying around to buy the BNF it's 325 that's an awful lot of money but I mean you're GNA what are you
[01:16:31] going to say like the the HappyModel the HappyModel AIO is probably the cheapest option that there is and it's only 47 versus well okay it's almost half as much but still right it's only a
[01:16:45] $30 difference so right see what I'm getting at but this is a good option and in theory when you look at the price this is the best option this is the this is potentially the highest quality option I
[01:17:01] don't actually know that I haven't personally run it but if you go by pricing this should be the highest quality option you're putting a $300 tiny whoop up into the air to spend an
[01:17:13] extra 35 or whatever it is dollars for an AO that's a little bit that's possibly a little bit better quality that's maybe worth it that's a to you to decide
[01:17:27] um I don't know if I'm going to buy one of these because I have the Super X it makes sense to use that first if I if the Super X blows up I will probably snag one of these gokus to give it a
[01:17:43] shot all right so those are our first two options the next option is the new which is already sold out I don't think this was sold out last night the Newbie drone B brain HD G4 flight
[01:17:57] controller with Express lrs built in even more expensive all right so the price point has gotten even higher here my main issue with this AO are these motor plugs newbie drone uses a smaller motor
[01:18:16] plug I I believe they're using a jst 1.0 the industry standard for tiny whoop Motors is jst 1.25 5 there's a chance I have that backwards but it doesn't matter what you need to know is that
[01:18:29] newbie drone uses a different plug and so any motor that you buy other than other than a newbie drone motor you're going to have to desolder the the batter the the leads and solder on a
[01:18:48] specific set of battery leads that you're going to get from newbie drone with those specific plugs not the end of the world but annoying as hell every single other rig you have unless you're all in on
[01:18:59] newbie drone is going to have it's just it's annoying it's super annoying I I I understand that newbie drone did it to save space on the board so that they could put more components on the board
[01:19:12] and I love that but for me as somebody that does a lot of these builds and tests a lot of stuff it is maddening to have all of these newbie drone boards have a specific plug on them
[01:19:25] for you guys it's probably not as big of a deal because you're not going to test eight sets of motors for on every single one of your builds to create live stream content but still there's going to be
[01:19:36] a situation where you're like I just got this new set of Motors let me plug it into my newbie and you're going to have to sit there with a soldering iron for an hour and it's and you're soldering very small
[01:19:48] and there's a chance that you can Bridge the pads or put too much flux on that gets into the like so this is an option it's sold out anyway so let's move on In
[01:20:06] fairness newbie drwan has been very kind with sending me stuff over the years they've been super interested in my feedback and so their their state side few of the the people that I've
[01:20:18] interfaced with over there have been amazing and so I love newbie drone as a company this is $100 it's I love that there's all these pads on it boy is that nice I assume that there's a 5volt back on
[01:20:35] it oh my God there's a 10vt back on it look at you newbie drone that's pretty cool so it has both a five and a 10vt backck on it so for example right they put these smaller
[01:20:50] motor plugs on it and now they've got room to put a five and a 10 volt backck on there so I'm not going this route I'm not going to spend $100 on a tiny whoop AO but if you have a reason
[01:21:04] for a 10vt backck or it looks like they've got this looks a lot like a little Bluetooth antenna so this might have Speedy be built in which is pretty slick there are some things
[01:21:18] that are nice about this AO this might be the perfect AO for you it's not the perfect AO for me so I'm going to move on but this is an option cool the last option is the BetaFPV 12 amp
[01:21:35] F4 unfortunately the ver the the so that's the AIO that that I've been running on my WalkSnail 2S builds and it has been very durable the version three 2024 version it
[01:21:54] looks like has been discontinued which kind of sucks because that's the one that I've been running but there is this version 2.2 version 2.2 from
[01:22:08] 2022 what does it say there it is flight controller 2022 which the difference is this 2022 version version 2.2 has an OSD chip on it what's nice about that is that if you ever decide to
[01:22:23] do an analog build with this AIO you're good to go but if you're going to use this for an HD build all of the space taken up by this OSD chip is wasted space
[01:22:37] I mean it kind of doesn't matter it has everything else that it needs on it here and I forgot to talk about this I'm sorry with these 2S builds we don't need a 5volt back I
[01:22:50] don't I don't think this has a 5vt back on it I could just look oh no I have the version three it's doesn't matter with 2S you're not going to get so much voltage sag that the 04 light shuts down
[01:23:07] and so with 2S we can send the 04 light full battery voltage which I actually prefer I try not to connect Becks together if you've what every every Electronic Component that takes
[01:23:24] raw voltage is going to have a becc to take that raw voltage and smooth it out to a Solid 5 volts or 3.3 volts or 10 volts and so the 04 light has its own becc internal and what I don't like to do you
[01:23:43] can totally do this but appar from what I've been told it's you want to try to avoid this is you don't want to have like a 5volt backck feeding into another 5volt backck it's better to just
[01:23:55] send the raw voltage to the one single 5vt BEC and let that do its thing I'm not an electrical Mastermind I I have no electronics background other than FPV and a father that was electro
[01:24:12] an electrical technician for his most of his career who worked on the tokomak plasma Fusion reactor in Princeton New Jersey for many years and has been to NASA soldering school so for
[01:24:24] you new folks he knows his stuff I didn't learn a ton from him but I picked up a couple things here and there but just keep in mind I I do not have an electric an electrical background but
[01:24:36] I've heard from people that seem to know what they're saying that if possible feed raw battery voltage into one single backck and then let that chill it out and that's what we're doing with these
[01:24:46] 2s builds it also means that we have more options for the flight controller for the AIO right we don't have to rely on a on a AIO that has a 5volt backck on it here's the other
[01:24:58] thing Becks fail and so if you're relying on a 5volt back on your flight controller to then feed a 5volt back on your V VTX if the 5volt becc dies on the flight controller now you got to
[01:25:15] rewire it's just a pain in the ass send the the VTX full Vol full battery voltage and you've taken one part of the chain out that can fail that is something that in the last eight plus
[01:25:27] years I've had ha I have had 5volt bec's die and kill flight controllers more often than any other failure in the last eight plus years of flying FPV and so that's a real thing if if I can take
[01:25:43] a 5volt backck out of the the chain of electricity that's going through a build I will every single time and it almost always improves the the the durability of that rig right because if
[01:25:56] you're feeding your VTX from the flight controller's 5vt backck and that dies you lose video and if you're far away you lose that whole build right so the the the ability on 2S to feed the 03
[01:26:15] light full battery voltage is awesome and that was that was one of the other things that on the previous live stream where I was like 1S is not really viable for the 04 light that
[01:26:27] was one of the things in my head was like we we having too many Becks in the in the in the game is just super annoying let me scroll up in chat a little bit to see if anybody else has so
[01:26:39] those are the four aiio options off the top of my head let me see if you guys have any other have found any other ones in the chat here I'm so sorry that I what I I'm pretty sure those
[01:26:50] are the main ones I'm tempted to get caught up on chat no let me let me take a quick look we will I will get caught up on chat at the end bag Zilla says hglrc Spectre 15
[01:27:04] amp elrs AIO 2 to 4S 4-1 I've had a really rough time with hglrc over the last eight years in terms of quality control or lack thereof recently I got the hglrc Spectre it's
[01:27:21] actually running in one of these analog builds the hglrc Spectre is they say that it's a one to2 saio it doesn't work on 1S it just doesn't I got two of them in a row from get FPV and they just
[01:27:40] it just would not work on 1S what's unbelievable is I put I hooked 2S up to it and it's actually been running okay it has a built-in VTX though if you're going to run and external HD
[01:27:56] VTX having an ex having an internal analog VTX doesn't make a whole lot of sense some aios will have a method of usually they'll put two pads next to each other and there'll be a solder
[01:28:10] bridge between them and you can break that solder bridge and that will turn off the VTX some AOS don't some aios you can't turn off that internal analog VTX and that is a big problem because you're
[01:28:26] probably you're not going to hook an antenna up to it and then that VTX is going to roast and it's going to either kill the board or kill itself in the process it's going to be sending out a
[01:28:37] bunch of garbage 5.8 that's going to interfere with the other VTX that you're putting on it's just it's a noggo right so an AO that it's also wasted space right it's a bunch of wasted chips
[01:28:50] and space on the board for that analog VTX the the is the is there a I thought this I think I don't think my Spectre is 15 amp is it is there are there two versions of
[01:29:09] the Spectre I'm looking it up real quick here this looks a lot like mine it's got this UFL dead center which mine does oh no okay this looks it's ju so it doesn't come with a 5.8 gig antenna so
[01:29:31] okay I guess there is a second version of the hglrc Spectre it's got blackbox that's kind of nice okay so they make a version of it that does not have a VTX built in
[01:29:46] which is pretty cool very expensive $78 I'm there's no way I'm paying here's what I'm going to say spend $80 on this flywoo Goku don't spend 78 on this hglrc Spectre if you're desperate
[01:30:03] to do one of these builds and this is the only one left maybe you'll be okay but there is no chance of me spending any money on HDL hglrc is absolute bottom of the barrel for me if I
[01:30:17] absolutely have to I guess I'll do it but I will be grudgingly it will be I will be grudged in doing so om FPV says TBS Lucid AIO 1 to 2os if you still fly Crossfire
[01:30:36] Crossfire in my opinion and most's opinion is is kind of dead elrs 2.4 performs better in most scenarios Gemini Nomad absolutely demolishes Crossfire so I
[01:30:54] come on board to elrs it's better in almost every way Willie FPV says HappyModel crazy f405 HD let's take a quick look at that is that the that's different
[01:31:07] than the Super X right The Crazy Ones are usually slightly different let's take a look at it over on pyrro Dron okay pretty similar oh my God these pads are so small pretty
[01:31:22] similar to the Super X but a little bit bigger see how this is a straight line here so this is going to be a little bit heavier big old jst Port up here on the side which is just going to be kind
[01:31:35] of annoying because it's going to make you space the boards a little bit farther apart which really does matter but an option 55 bucks good price I would definitely go with the Super X HD
[01:31:52] before the crazy f405 but you're you might have a hard time finding this Super X I don't know anything about the durability but it's nice that we have another option
[01:32:07] what's the bottom of the board look like you're going to have to be careful with this plug location this is a nonstandard motor plug location it
[01:32:21] might hit on the frame I'm taking a look at the mob 7 V3 frame so that's going to be one of the other things about these different aios that I can't I mean so the the Goku
[01:32:40] AIO it's got the the motor pads pushed all the way out here see how far out the I'm sorry not the the motor pads the and the and the motor plug headers see how they're pushed nice and far out
[01:32:54] into the corners that means that they're not going to conflict with the frame the bottom of the frame which is kind of important we know that because rori sells a BNF that Tyler made for
[01:33:07] them here with that AO in the mobio 7 V3 frame which is the frame that you want to run in my opinion and so we know that the Goku is safe I haven't really thought about that with some of these
[01:33:19] others okay newbie drone looks like they've done a good job pushing these out close to the mounting points so the the Newbie drone is probably okay Super X do we have a picture of the
[01:33:30] bottom of you oh see this is this is not see how these are not pushed out nearly as far I know this quality is going to suck but just see how these are kind of
[01:33:44] inboard this might have a these plug headers might hit on the mobio 7 V3 frame I'll let because I have one of these that I'm going to use wait a second ah I'll let right now
[01:34:00] because oh no I don't have an extra one of these frames do I the frames are all built up I can probably eyeball it let me see here so Super
[01:34:13] X oh no I don't even have to eyeball it I can just hold it down like this they hit the frame so you're going to have to clearance the mobula 7 V3
[01:34:27] frame not the end of the world but an admittedly annoying as hell to have to do stuff there is even a chance that nah it looks like it'll be fine but you're going to have to grind
[01:34:48] away material at the bottom the battery Bay of this Frame if you decide to go with the super X HD because of where they've put these motor plugs that's frustrating but the the
[01:35:03] super X's 1S and I'm going to use it on the little 1S build and the the 1S builds I use the Cockroach 65 V3 frame and that's got this battery Bay that's like really far down and I won't
[01:35:18] have a problem with it so yeah the the Super X would probably be the the Super X or the new BetaFPV Matrix that we were looking at earlier they're going to be the aios that you want to run for
[01:35:33] 1s if you want to run this super xh super xhd AIO on 2S you're going to have a little bit of an annoyance in clearancing the frame but probably not the end of the world 15
[01:35:47] minutes of your life and you're going to clearance the battery Bay which is not really going to affect durability the the frames never break in the battery Bay so it'll be all right but
[01:35:57] that's going to be the most customization that you kind of have to do crazy f45 look where they've put the motor plug see they're not far out here this might have the same problem
[01:36:09] they've squared the plugs up which actually helps things so you might be able to get away with without grinding away at the battery Bay with this super X8 D is 2S got
[01:36:25] that have on a crazy F 405 Mr Huggy calling out the neutron RC I don't do the neutron limits 20 said then we got that D oh Darwin FPV does I don't think it has elrs built in but let's
[01:36:46] take a quick look Darwin FPV 1 2 3 3 S I didn't think that Darwin had a 1 to3s with elers s builtin but I could totally be wrong so this is also a big
[01:37:12] AIO okay no elrs built in so there's no UFL and there's no antenna hanging off so this is not it's just silly to mount an external VTX and an external elrs receiver can you do it
[01:37:27] absolutely but you shouldn't so this is not this is not in my list because it doesn't have vrs built in I think that's it man there's a ton of people in chat and I'm not seeing
[01:37:40] anybody else that's tagged me with another option I mean to be honest we've got what four or five options here that's pretty damn good a lot of times with tiny whoops we've got like I
[01:37:52] said earlier like one maybe two options so this is kind of cool we've got HappyModel Super X HD the Newbie drone ACR 75hd the Goku the BetaFPV 12 amp version 2.2 if you can find it the
[01:38:10] version three if you can find the version three do me a favor and send me a link because I think I blew this one up the other day and I don't have an extra I was hoping we'd have enough
[01:38:22] time on the Stream for me to we might got another 20-ish minutes I'm going to start tearing this down to see if I can see what went up in smoke when I plug the battery in on this so all
[01:38:36] right and then the the happy motto crazy f405 the Goku this okay so there's your options which one is best the BetaFPV version 3 that you can't that it appears is
[01:38:59] either been discontinued or it's just out of stock everywhere my main reason for that is that the BetaFPV 12 amp 1: 2S version three does not use a USB port on the
[01:39:17] bottom and so where the battery goes there's tons of clearance here here they use a little jst where is it they use a little jst plug right in there and then a little
[01:39:32] dongle to plug into USBC this admittedly is annoying you can buy Replacements but to me it's worth the annoyance because not having that USB port on the bottom makes it lighter
[01:39:48] weight but it also gives you more space for the battery Bay so you can slam this AIO Down super low and you never have to worry about the USB port coming in contact with the battery now that we've
[01:40:00] gone 2S our batteries have become a lot bigger and L but luckily the mobula 7 V3 frame pushes the battery down just far enough where with most aios you can find a set of grommets that will set the aiio
[01:40:18] in a place where the USB port does not hit the battery that's just this one frame though there's a there's a cool little thing you can do with these two s builds with the BetaFPV board that
[01:40:29] doesn't have the USB on the bottom where you actually run the lighter weight mobula 7 V4 frame this Frame here y this Frame here which pull and what you do is you cut the the
[01:40:47] top I have one of these that I've modded but it's in the box it's not worth digging it out what you do is you cut the top battery Bay supports out if you have some of these mobula 7 V4 frames
[01:41:00] and you've flown them a lot you've probably broken these this is what breaks on this Frame and it's what you need to remove to put a 2S battery in here and so if you want the ultimate
[01:41:10] in performance the mobula 7 V4 frame with these top battery mount pieces of plastic removed is the maximum performance it's the lightest weight frame it's durable and you also
[01:41:27] don't have to use motor spacers if you run 102 Motors on it from a performance standpoint this Frame is as good as it gets it's the lightest weight option the battery is going to be tucked
[01:41:40] up a lot so it's going to be it's pulling the battery up towards the center of gravity towards the prop line so for ultimate in performance unquestionably the V4 frame is the way
[01:41:53] to go it's kind of a pain in the ass and the only aiio that's going to work with it is going to be the the BetaFPV 12 amp version three hold on maybe the version 2.2 I probably have to buy one of these
[01:42:15] version 2. tws I'm pretty sure I'm going to does this also not have the okay so the version 2.2 also does not have the USB port this is the bottom of the board so what I'll say is the
[01:42:27] beta FPV 12 amp either f412 amp either one of them is going to be your your path to maximum Enlightenment no to maximum flight performance because no USB slam the AIO down as low as possible
[01:42:45] that'll let you pull the battery up as high as possible if you want to go all out personally I love this mobula 7 D3 frame I'm going to stick with this it's super durable it just works
[01:42:59] maybe it's if if I do I don't know this Frame is great I I'm in love with this Frame also slamming the AIO down as low as possible allows you to pull the VTX down
[01:43:12] as low as possible it allows you to run the shortest possible canopy stack screws which really does matter the The Vision 4 40 here is using
[01:43:28] m1.2 by 14 mm screws on all of my builds here I use m1.2 by 12 screws the main reason I believe is this canopy the thickness right here of this part of the canopy is probably why they're having
[01:43:45] to use m1.2 by4 why that's important is that all of the force that you put on this canopy in crashes so every single time you crash inverted all of that energy goes into those tiny
[01:44:03] little plastic posts on the frame that are sticking up this is not the same frame but you can see these little plastic posts right all of that energy gets put into these weak ass little
[01:44:19] plastic posts and they absolutely will break eventually and so the short the lower you can slam your AIO the lower you can slam your VTX the shorter screws that you can run will significantly
[01:44:34] improve the durability of your double stack tiny build I break those little posts off of single stack builds in really hard crashes at jungle gyms I mean I'm usually Full Throttle
[01:44:50] going into metal so it's pretty vicious but you then put another VTX up on top and then big long screws you feel me right it does make a difference so absolute Max performance and the
[01:45:07] best AO option for an 04 light 2S 75mm tiny Whoop I'm pretty sure is going to be the BetaFPV version 3 hopefully it comes back in stock I'm probably going to I'm almost
[01:45:26] certainly going to snag one of these version 2. twsl with the version three from a durability standpoint I've put a whole bunch of batteries through this WalkSnail 2S rig that I'm taking apart
[01:45:39] right now the the constant failure and the reason why I haven't had more batteries on this rig is the WalkSnail light vtx's over and over and over again letting go it's got nothing to do
[01:45:51] with the AIO right I'm feeding them I'm feeding those WalkSnail vtx's uh battery voltage and so the AIO has nothing to do with it I've crashed this thing hard I'm
[01:46:06] probably 100 plus batteries into this AIO with hard 2S crashes into the concrete into the street in front of the house into the roof and it's held up totally fine BetaFPV gets a
[01:46:23] much worse wrap for durability and quality control than they deserve and the reason is they sell more stuff than anybody else and when you sell more stuff you get more angry people right
[01:46:38] like it's just the way that it is if if you buy something and it blows up you get pissed off and you go on the internet and you tell everyone about it if you buy something and it works you
[01:46:48] enjoy it and you you typically don't go on the internet and talk about it so BetaFPV has always and probably will always sell a higher number of their components and so they will always have
[01:47:02] more people that complain so as a consumer it seems like BetaFPV has lower quality control but as soon as you talk to anybody that works at any of these resellers they get to see the actual
[01:47:16] ratio of stuff that's coming back in and what I've heard from these people is that the quality control of BetaFPV is no worse than anybody else unfortunately those resellers those
[01:47:33] retailers ability to work with BetaFPV as a manufacturer it's apparently a little bit annoying which is why some companies choose not to work with them but their quality control is not worse they
[01:47:46] just sell more stuff Mak sense now I'm gonna get caught up on the entire live stream chat or not because it looks like YouTube has deleted all the chat messages before 3:45 p.m. that's new to
[01:48:00] me sorry anybody that tagged me before 3:4 3:45 p.m blame YouTube veritos says bud will you be going with the new DJI 04 light version for 1S and 2S yep I I should have ordered two
[01:48:15] of them but I only ordered one it is on the way at some point our USPS will start working again we got one inch of snow and all of Georgia lost their mind and so nothing has happened since Thursday
[01:48:29] Dave Gunn says do not know the run time of the ' 04 but it's around 2 minutes you will not be happy and DJI will not be an option not true I I get it'll give so the
[01:48:44] the the amp draw of 04 light is 1.2 the amp draw of WalkSnail is 1.1 so no real difference yes there's an extra gram that I'm going to be carrying around and that extra 0. one of
[01:49:01] an amp so my guess is going to be that I will lose 10 seconds of runtime which is totally acceptable for the fact that it's a DJI product so I won't have an entire bag of them that have the
[01:49:17] bed and also 4K flight footage up to 120 frames a second 1080 so no I will love it more than likely we'll see but I've already seen a bunch of folks that have done uh builds with the 04 light and
[01:49:40] it's phenomenal so I'm pretty sure that I'll I'll dig it willly FP you guys will get to see whether or not I do Willie FPV says what about HappyModel crazy f405 we talked about that
[01:49:51] Denzel says hello be bmud Skipper says I actually built a long range 4S lithium ion quad then I made a naked 03 75 Pro on 2S and I have probably more stress free flying just flying around
[01:50:08] the trees and structure in the yard I I I cannot I cannot scream it loud enough from the rooftops 2S 75mm rigs out in front and behind your house is absolute magic
[01:50:23] you got to get you got to get the motor and prop combo right as with any rig but a 102 or an 1102 18 minimum 14 or 15,000 KV what I really like is 18 19 20,000 KV with a
[01:50:40] little bit of a motor limit in the pids tab of BetaFlight motor limit's down to like 80% it is unbelievable GemFan 1610 by blades are like the gold standard it's absolute magic analog HD doesn't
[01:50:58] matter you got tons of power great runtime my favorite battery is sold out at the moment it's the tiny whoop 300 Mah 2S BT 3.0 the the BT 3.0 battery lead is awesome little bit of a trick
[01:51:13] you can with the mobula 7 V3 frame you can run your battery lead super short and then you put the BT 3.0 lead down through through the back of the frame like this it's so so so good
[01:51:26] it keeps the batteries from ejecting from the battery Bay super lightweight because your battery leads are nice and short the battery leads are big thick gauges of wire so they really
[01:51:37] do it's does make a difference when you can run them super short this little combination that I've done a ton of live streams over the last six months it's just magic it's absolute
[01:51:48] magic it's the most fun I've had in FPV in a while do it my friends running water says and a lot of people in our chat here have followed suit and done these builds and one by one I get
[01:52:01] the direct messages holy dude you were so right this is unbelievable this is all I want to fly you can fly from your living room come on you can rip from your living room out in the
[01:52:12] front of your house running up and down the street chasing cars up and down the street flying up over your roof inspecting your gutters it's super super super good running water
[01:52:21] says FPV is goofy had a flight controller that that had an ESC problem for months put it in the bin today decided to do a mock build with it's works fine now
[01:52:32] um many many many times over the last eight plus years I've had electronics and FPV that just stop working for absolutely no reason whatsoever I put them down I walk
[01:52:48] away from them for 24 hours a week a month whatever hook them back up and they're just completely fine no no Rhyme or Reason I assume it's because we demand our stuff be inexpensive mainly
[01:53:03] because we smash them into the brick into brick walls and metal poles and right and when in order to make Electronics cheaply quality control kind of goes out the window I've always
[01:53:15] assumed that that's why because Electronics shouldn't work right they should either work or not work and when they stop working they should stop working forever but
[01:53:26] no it that's a super funny thing about FPV for sure bmud Skipper says I really like staying inside on my couch and pajamas and fly in the yard me too I land at the front door and swap
[01:53:36] batteries yep I I'll actually I go I I'm a little bit less lazy than be mud skipper I'll I'll Stand Inside the front door but I ain't going outside man screw that crom says the Goku one to 2s
[01:53:53] has a 9volt 2 Amp backck does it really I'll be testing it this week till the beta fpv1 comes in that's pretty cool not not necessary but it's nice that it has it all you really need is
[01:54:06] a five a 5volt back that's up to 1.5 amps which shouldn't most of them should be but that's pretty cool I didn't realize that the Goku had a 9V becc on 2S I'm not going to use the
[01:54:22] internal becc I'm going to run direct battery voltage cuz what we talked about before you do you my friends Dana turble says what about 2S what about 2S AIO for 04 light I don't
[01:54:37] think 1S will be enough so we talked about that that was at 401 mape thank you again for the two super chats ZIP says is there a good way of adding LEDs to a tiny whoop
[01:54:49] loads of ways would like to chase friends outside and need more visibility your One-Stop shop for all your LED needs with tiny whoops is Tiny whoop.com Jesse has so many amazing LED options
[01:55:07] for tiny whoops here comes the the link in chat there are so many things that you can do for LEDs with tiny whoops it is absolutely ridiculous they're all over the place like I said
[01:55:22] said Jesse has a bunch of different options here I'm not seeing cob LEDs though like the ultra LED option is oh well these are cob LEDs but uh the I'll be damned well here's the
[01:55:43] here's the slickest option and my favorite my favorite L tiny whoop LED option is and it's brand new where is it's a it's a bt2.0 180 degree battery lead PCB I've been putting them on all
[01:56:06] my tiny whoops lately because it doesn't weigh anything typically when you add LEDs they weigh something and they're also like like they're going to take up space and you got to glue them down and it's
[01:56:19] it's it's just a little bit of annoying where the hell oh I can let me just go to everything because it's a it's a new item and it'll be on like the first or second
[01:56:34] page of course I here it is Led PCB pigtail kit by black horse I'm putting the link in the chat this is my favorite way of putting an LED on a tiny whoop it weighs literally nothing
[01:56:48] it's oh the camera died again come on Canon in yeah it doesn't weigh anything and it and it serves as a 180° BT 2.0 lead I think this is actually lighter weight than the 180 Dee leads that you can buy
[01:57:07] from uh from BetaFPV let me get this camera back up real quick and yeah it's got bright little LEDs on it I'm going to show you in one second I have it on bunch of my
[01:57:22] builds here where's one that has it here's one and so let's go to the overhead cam should be a charged battery so it's functions as wire in and then 180 degree to your BT 2.0 lead but then
[01:57:40] it's also got two nice little LEDs on it I know that doesn't look very bright but it is they they are relatively bright LEDs and they're facing backwards so if you guys are racing you're going to be
[01:57:50] staring right at somebody else's set of battery LEDs and with racing weight matters so that's the super ultra Easy Button there's lots of other crazier options for you but these are
[01:58:04] great and it's two per and there's all different colors red orange yellow green ice blue pink red red and blue one LED there's two LEDs on there one's red one's blue in this case or white and so
[01:58:17] you know you and all your friends can be a different color and Away you go so that's the all Ultra Ultra easy no additional wires oh wow again yo
[01:58:32] Canon figure this out man come on Wow brutal all right we'll just keep going in chat here there you go zip great question brother danzel the terrible says that is the
[01:58:50] title of the stream he'll tell us soon AZ Lone Wolf 81 says is HappyModel crazy f45 good for 2S I assume so somebody posted it as an option so I assume that it's good for 2 us let me
[01:59:03] double check though there we go where is it at crazy f45 it's got 12 amp fets so it should be good for 2S but let's just confirm yep one to 2S good to go
[01:59:23] bad says the Super X HD is 2x that's the one over here that we talked about the only pain in the ass is probably going to be having to clearance the bottom of the battery Bay not the end of the world
[01:59:34] but not plug-and play either willly FPV says got that crazy f405 om FPV got that one flying Kebab says fly W Goku F4 talked about that one Mr Huggy calling out the neutron RC I don't
[01:59:48] recommend it Billa calling out the hglrc Spectre we talked about that one hglrc is absolute Last Resort for me Denzel the turbo says 69 minute curse limits 20 says I have a set of happy
[02:00:03] model 102 20,000 KV Motors would that be good for a 2S 04 build with power limit on the motors absolutely you're going to motor limit those down to like 70% to get started and then if that's not
[02:00:14] enough power 75 I don't think once you hit 80% I don't think you'll need more power than that but start at 70 20,000 KV on 2S is a lot Brad bondan says Darwin FPV 1 to 3s that's the
[02:00:27] one that we looked at it does not have elrs built in Willie FPV says so what's the best AIO for HD1 to 2S that's what we've been talking about thrash FPV says why might I get flashes on my
[02:00:37] camera feed randomly one two or so times in 5 seconds that depends are we talking analog are we talking WalkSnail hd0 DJI Cisco FV says I've got I've got in my 2S builds you saw at crle
[02:00:54] crash Super X it's still kicking also have a crazy f45 that's been solid too awesome thank you for that Cisco so there's a couple of thumbs up for the Super X here and he said he also has
[02:01:08] one of these crazy f45s which is good HappyModel happy model gets a worse WAP than they deserve HappyModel is another company that sells a lot of stuff and so when you sell a lot of stuff inevitably
[02:01:26] there's going to be more people screaming about the quality The HappyModel 2g4 1S AIO is as close to indestructible as I've ever seen in all of FPV the only FPV component I crash a
[02:01:43] lot I'm hard on gear the only other FPV component that I've seen that can touch the durability and reliability I've seen from the 2g4 are Aon aios in the 5-in world 30x30 Aon 35 amp aios can't
[02:02:02] kill them 2g4 same thing can't kill them HappyModel has the ability to produce electronics that are hilariously durable maybe the crazy f405 is just as durable maybe the Super
[02:02:20] X HDO is just as durable I just I have not blasted them into concrete 7,000 times in in a row to be able to tell you that but and I try not to just like this is the best like
[02:02:38] like the 2g4 i' i' I've come close to saying that that's the best because I've had such a long experience with it but there you go bird person says CST in Discord La
[02:02:56] Lone Wolf says what are your thoughts on the happy Mel crazy f45 so we've talked about that so I'm looking for bird person in Discord he's linking to the superx which we've been talking about he
[02:03:09] says I have the Super X and it fits 2S he's running double oh I forgot to talk about this so the the other way that you can do 2S is you build a little double BT 2.0 connector and you
[02:03:24] just take two of your 1S 300 MH batteries and smack them next to each other and you plug each one in individually what's cool about this is you use the same batteries on your 1s
[02:03:35] rigs as you do on your 2S rigs the pain in the ass of this not well the pain in the ass is that it's hard to mount certain certain frames like you can just stuff them in there and they'll fit
[02:03:48] but they're right so you got to figure out a way to mount them so that they don't fall out so that's the pain in the ass of doing it this way the actual negative you can figure
[02:04:01] that out though a little piece of foam whatever right the actual negative of doing this is that it's heavier the tiny whoop BT 3.0 300 M 300 Mah 2S battery is is it three Gs lighter I want to say
[02:04:19] it's three Gs lighter I'll tell you right now 300 MH 2S tiny whoop battery 15 g double 300 16.8 G so 1.8 G difference which is significant also though there's going to be more battery wire so 1.6 G difference
[02:04:44] is going to turn pretty quickly into a 2 G difference you're also going to have two BT 2.0 leads versus one BT 3.0 lead so realistically it's a 2 G difference doubling up on 1S batteries versus the
[02:04:59] tiny whoop 300 BT 3.0 with these 2S builds you're going to have plenty of power but you're that's two extra grams that you're carrying around all the time so
[02:05:13] the run time is going to be a little bit less the flight performance is going to be a little bit worse if you're desperate to do one of these builds right now you can't get these batteries
[02:05:22] so you have to do it with the double and maybe you'll fall in love with that double setup that's the way that I have the tiny lifters and it was really cool being able to just run my regular
[02:05:32] old batteries on the tiny lifters you can potentially run into issues with if you put One battery on there that's old and tired and one battery on there that's fresh the old and tired battery
[02:05:44] is going to really voltage sag like crazy and so it's there are reasons that it is not as good of a setup to do this the opposite the on the other side of the fence is you don't have to buy
[02:06:00] any new batteries that's pretty cool it's easy to make the little the little plug you can buy them from BetaFPV but it's just a it's just 2 BT 2.0's and you take a lead and you go in between them
[02:06:11] and then you run the other leads to the flight controller dead simple to do here this is what it looks like in order to look up how to do it you just have to look up the item
[02:06:22] so BetaFPV double BT 2.0 I guess we'll find it on Google let's see yep there it is so this is all it is unbelievably simple you're going to hook the the positive into the negative and
[02:06:42] then you've got your ground coming out here and then your your voltage coming out here right Ultra Ultra Ultra simple little bit heavier you could do you could do double
[02:06:54] tiny whoop LED Bing bongs that'd be kind of cool they might hit each other though n you could do it they wouldn't hit each other that'd be slick have four little LEDs on the back
[02:07:09] you know two of these little things put one on each you would so you would just run like this guy out here to the other one and they would just stack him right next to each other that'd be that'd be
[02:07:19] kind of cool Mario Bean says I have that same build but with WalkSnail it's my favorite build by far 75mm 2S tiny whoop with digital it's wild man it's infinitely
[02:07:37] light infinitely quiet infinitely safe it rips full HD it's so much fun the the analog ones I I'll be hon I'll be honest the the the flight performance of the analog ones is ridiculous and
[02:07:54] so like if you have analog goggles you owe it to yourself to do a 752s analog build it is ridiculous buy yourself a mobula 71s elrs swap the battery lead the motors that it comes with are perfect you put
[02:08:13] them at like an 85% motor limit in the pids to have a BetaFlight you swap the frames and it comes with the X 12 which is works on 2S th that's basically what this is and this is wild this
[02:08:29] is so much fun to fly but when you put digital on them you get all you get very similar flight performance but you're flying in HD and it it's got that HD magic and you've got footage
[02:08:44] that looks great afterwards Steve Steve Jobs tagged me but didn't oh there it is he says building an 04 light in a Pavo Pico with a custom canopy also cutting out the battery trade to add his
[02:08:54] strap 19,000 KV 2S very cool that'll be a little bit heavy but 2S has plenty of power so that'll fly like a cine whoop Mario Bean says it's got built-in programmable LEDs what
[02:09:12] does the he's probably talking about the Newbie drone AIO newbie drone usually puts addressable LEDs in which are pretty cool Frank Nicholas says the new on a was sold out by Friday night I barely
[02:09:25] snagged one I had a feeling Steve Jobs says HappyModel X12 nope built-in VTX you might be able to disable the built-in VTX but it's just kind of silly to have that to drag around that
[02:09:39] built-in VTX can somebody confirm whether or not I I think somebody in chat knows this from a previous live stream and I believe the answer is yes but can somebody confirm real quick
[02:09:51] whether or not there's a way to disable the internal VTX on the HappyModel X12 I might be able to actually confirm it right now I have one right here this is a 5x Loop if you're into FPV and you
[02:10:06] don't have one you're high get one usually like I said earlier there'll be two pads that are bridged together with solder and I'm looking right at two pads that are bridged together with solder so
[02:10:20] that's probably it right there W boy that is that is that is like right in the middle of the board with a bunch of components around it but that that's probably it usually there's there'll just be like
[02:10:38] one of those pads and it looks like that's the only one so that that is either there to turn off the elrs or the VTX usually it's there to turn off the VTX because the the you can't have
[02:10:57] double vtx's banging away at the same time it's just it's no good so hopefully somebody in chat has already confirmed that I'm 99% sure that you could so the HappyModel X12
[02:11:11] would be an option but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you have one all right it's a free AO but you're you're sacrific the the space that that VTX takes up on the board thr
[02:11:25] FV says is a whoop that does a trilling type noise and does a second throttle push I do not input a p or D tuning issue typically yep I can't seem to get it tuned out here's the Easy Button
[02:11:39] thrash if you think your your pids are causing an issue grab your master multiplier and pull it from like 1.0 all the way down to 0.5 it'll fly like ass but if that behavior goes away that is
[02:11:55] like a an almost certain sign that your pids are too high technically if you if you dial the filtering in better if there's room for the filtering to be dialed in better
[02:12:11] and then you do that you might not have to turn the pids down you might be able to leave your pids alone right whenever you've got weird issues going on on take the props off put
[02:12:23] a fresh set of propellers on see if that helps if that doesn't help check if your motor shafts are bent go into the motors tab of BetaFlight slowly raise each motor while you're holding the quad
[02:12:35] and feel for vibrations between like 13 and 1,400 in the motor slider that's when most of the vibrations happen do one motor then do the next then do the next then do the next on Tiny whoops you
[02:12:48] can kind of leave the propellers on if you really want to check it though pull the props off with the motor shaft put your fingernail very lightly against the motor shaft and ramp the the
[02:13:02] motor RPM there will be a specific RPM typically between 13 and 1400 where you can feel it the best your fingernail is is keratin hard material and then the motor shaft there you'll feel
[02:13:16] if that motor shaft is bent and then you check the next motor and the next motor and the next motor they'll usually be the front Motors that are vibrating a little bit more change those Motors out
[02:13:26] physical vibrations are typically what cause the problem that you're describing especially if that problem didn't exist at some point if you put a fresh set of motors on and
[02:13:40] it's flying totally fine you fly a dozen batteries and now it's exhibiting this Behavior the pids are fine you've mechanically damaged the the the quad right either the props are banged up or
[02:13:52] the motors are banged up or the frame is broken or there's a screw that's backed out right these are the the typical things that are going to cause that problem also it could be a soft mounting
[02:14:02] issue if you've got like wires squeezed up in between your AI and the frame that's going to hard Mount that aiio you can't have that the reason why we put these rubber grommets on the aios on the
[02:14:12] flight controllers is you want the AO that has the really sensitive gyro on it to float and then there's always going to be vibrations a fresh of props a fresh set of Motors there's still going
[02:14:23] to be vibrations but that's okay because you got those rubber grommets so the frame and the motors and the props can vibrate down here and those rubber grommets will keep the flight controller
[02:14:32] solid that's really important if you then put a wire in between that AO it's going to vibrate with everything else because it's hard mounted the best way to check for these
[02:14:44] problems is outside in out the farthest out is the propellers then it's the motors then it's the arms which are kind of the frame and then it's the the the flight controller mounting props are the
[02:14:59] most common cause Motors are the second most common cause broken frame broken arms loose screws are the third most common cause improper soft mounting is the fourth common cause outside in if
[02:15:13] you're a fan of or have ever watched Silicone Valley the HBO show middle out compression their their magical thing is Middle out compression with FPV it's outside in not
[02:15:27] inside out not middle out outside in that's the best way to troubleshoot let us know how that goes Rolando says there's a new cross 12 amp AIO being released by BetaFPV with
[02:15:39] a 3 amp 5volt Beck yep we took a look at that earlier in the Stream that is the best aiio for a 1S 04 light build it's not 2S capable though so it will explode if you put 2S into it but
[02:15:57] for for my 1S build I initially because I have it and it's free and timman sent it to me because he's an awesome guy I have this HappyModel superx that I'm going to use but at
[02:16:09] some point I'm going to snag one of those BetaFPV Matrix FP aiio BetaFPV has actually been very kind lately sending me some stuff so what I'll actually do is shoot him a message on
[02:16:21] Instagram and say like I would love to do a live stream with your Matrix 3 in one any interest and maybe they'll send me one for nothing B mud skipper says what about
[02:16:33] this flight controller I flight f411 let's take a look I flight who makes the Goku is is the Goku I flight fart the wrong thing oh no I flate makes Blitz that's right Goku is flywoo Goku is
[02:16:55] flywoo Blitz whoop AO I'm assuming this is the one doesn't look like it has elrs built in and mounting an external these manufacturers should be beaten for only having CAD drawings of
[02:17:16] these things on their websites are you out of your mind it doesn't look like it has elrs built in I don't see an antenna or a UFL Port anywhere on here sure you could
[02:17:32] mount an external receiver but that's just silly we've got a bunch of options that have internal elrs and just makes the build so much cleaner these tiny whoops are a
[02:17:43] packaging nightmare and forcing yourself to try to put an external VTX and an external receiver you're going to hate your life don't do it don't do it to yourself Brandon's B Bean said
[02:17:56] something but YouTube scrolled me to the bottom when I didn't want them to scrolling back up to try to find my place come on now oh wow there is a lot I don't know we're already over time we're already 20
[02:18:23] minutes over and I have a couple's dance class to teach tonight I don't know if we're gonna be able to get caught up on chat here I'm gonna do my best though Brandon says the 10vt
[02:18:37] Beck died on my favorite long long range ultr light freestyle rig I had to move the 03 to vbat it died when I tried to turtle out of the grass after crashing half a mile away beccs die my
[02:18:49] friends sending direct battery voltage to a component in my opinion is going to be the best bet because you're not re you're you're taking one becc out of the chain right if
[02:19:04] you're if you're running things off of your flight controller's becc and that flight controller becc dies your life becomes a lot more confusing if you're running uh full
[02:19:17] battery voltage to a component and the becc in the component dies it was going to die anyway right there's nothing you can do about that the the beccs don't die
[02:19:28] because you're feeding them full battery voltage versus 5vt or 10 volt they they just seem to kind of die so running battery voltage into one becc and then running that into another becc that
[02:19:43] doubles the the the amount of things that we see die very frequently in FPV builds so in my opinion don't do that and in my experience don't do that bad says just found HappyModel Super
[02:19:58] f405 eler S 3 in one has the DJI plug to I don't know if I'm familiar with that let's see which one's that super f45 HD so that looks like an oversized aiio let's go some that
[02:20:21] doesn't have stupid snow going on there's the crazy f405 super f405 January 5th 2024 big old plug on it okay so this oh but there's no no there is elrs look there they give you the 2.4
[02:20:45] antenna why do I not know this AO 20 amp Jesus is it 1 to 2S or is it 2S to 4S what is this called f405 HD super okay so this is 2 to 4S it's got blackbox 20 amp fets that's
[02:21:16] insane it's got elrs on board okay ICM 42 688 gyro that's fine it looks big this is a big looking AIO but huh it doesn't look like anybody sells it
[02:21:39] though HappyModel 1S F4 5 amp no that's not it's looks it's like only on Happy models website never mind Define RC sells it okay so there's another option for you oh no
[02:21:55] never mind never mind you will hate your life this is a toothpick AO not a tiny whoop AO you will have to take this AO out every single time you want to plug USB into it don't do that to
[02:22:09] [Laughter] yourself almost almost good call good find toothpick only though nuron FPV says happy Mel crazy F4 HD 102s everything plug and playay crazy f405 so that was this one that we
[02:22:27] looked at you might have to clearance the the battery leads a little bit the battery Bay a little bit but looking like Plug and Play maybe a good option I don't know anything about it
[02:22:41] though limits 20 says I have some mobul 7 frames how do I know if they're the V3 look up the mobul 7 V3 frame on Google and you'll get pictures of it and then just compare it is very obvious the
[02:22:53] the V3 and the V4 look completely different ZIP says can't find mobul 7 frame in stock what's the next best frame for Mob 7 1X and 2x conversion the mobul 7 V3 is in stock on Amazon you
[02:23:05] can buy a two pack it's also in stock on rotor Riot's website on Amazon it's only in the clear color on rotor Riot you can get it in the Smoke crotch gray or the clear
[02:23:15] color next best frame I don't know if there is one it's that good the V4 frame you can only run with the one specific AIO apparently there's an hdrc 75mm frame I don't have any
[02:23:34] experience with it though so the mobio 7 V3 frame is is the one to go with suck it up and order from either rotor Riot or Amazon chromatica says I've been using the
[02:23:52] flywoo hd405 with built-in Els on my 2S toothpick it's amazing awesome awesome thank you for that dude I have not heard much about that flywoo AO so anybody that has any experience with it
[02:24:04] please let me know jasto says new Matrix AIO from BetaFPV what about it Frank Nas says elers receiver on the superx is it SPI or you oh boy I have no idea that was at 443 have you f have
[02:24:20] you figured that out yet Frank tag me and let me know bod Skipper says there is a 2 to Fours build from iight I think that's the one that we looked at it doesn't have elrs built in
[02:24:32] I thought it said tip mom you read what you want to read it's just TTT momcan you tell me what is better for 04 3540 45mm props and motor 0802 25,000 KV 102 20 okay
[02:24:51] so no such thing as better just different 35 mm props no way because they're only going to work on a frame that can only hold 1 s batteries so that's a total no 40 mm props are
[02:25:05] the way to go 45mm props are only going to work on the pro frame which only takes 1 s which is not really what you want because I think he said 2S now he didn't specifically say 2S but
[02:25:20] um what the only reason to go 1S is if you're going to bring the weight down as low as possible this is going to be the heaviest possible option so don't do it you're going to hate your life and
[02:25:35] then in terms of Motors the 102s are going to be the 802s are going to be too small for the amount of weight that you're going to be carrying 102 Motors are going to be the smallest
[02:25:46] motor so if you want to keep the weight down it's 102 1102 are going to be slightly heavier but they're going to give you a little bit more power the KV that you want I talked about earlier
[02:25:57] minimum 14 to 15,000 KV you're going to run that at 100% motor limiting I prefer 18 19 or 20,000 KV Motors and then you motor limit them down in the pids tab a BetaFlight to like 80%
[02:26:10] and there you go I have loads of content here on the channel from the last 6 months answering All Those Questions diving into them flying rigs with all the different motor options
[02:26:21] so have at it brother you'll get to see lots of flight footage lots of really good discussions Willie FPV says but it is only 1 s from BetaFPV I'm assuming that he's talking about the
[02:26:33] Matrix board yep it is only one s Uriel says use screw from other side at 449 I I don't know what that's in reference to tag me again and tell me more Brandon says I have a 75mm
[02:26:47] build where a post Has Broken I drilled it out 2 mm and put a nylon bolt in there threads directly into the most robust canopy option the bbr V2 canopy very cool I never thought about doing
[02:26:59] that super interesting the the frames are only like four or five bucks I always keep a couple extras in and I just swap them out but there there that is a really cool fix that's a
[02:27:11] really cool option I yurio says wish you the best see you next time damn it I was I wonder what yurio was talking about with using the screw from the side thrash FV says I get a white
[02:27:23] flash on my camera feed HappyModel X12 it's random and 3 to five times in 10 seconds what could it be could be your goggles if you have another set of goggles try those if you have a friend
[02:27:35] that flies FPV try his goggles that's the first easiest thing to check if it's not the goggles then the AIO is dying there's not like a checkbox in BetaFlight Flash
[02:27:50] white every three to five times in 10 seconds what I mean like with with aios they either work or they don't if you're on the right channel the try a different antenna that's
[02:28:05] not going to be it but just do it anyway make sure that you're on the right channel that's about it there's really nothing that you can check but it could be goggles could be a goggle
[02:28:16] problem bad says have a it sounds like the a is dying though bad says have a great flying day today it was my son's three-year-old birthday had a half full of kids running around after
[02:28:27] my whoop losing themselves nice got some good proximity to people flying in very cool man chasing subjects is amazingly fun TT Mom asking the same question again B mud skipper says what do you
[02:28:42] think of the boner FPV battle bones V2 frame We've looked at that before it looks very heavy but if if you're going to build a wall quad it's cool looking so thr FB says should I use
[02:28:55] my HappyModel 1102 mobul 8 Motors or IGA 802 27,000 on my 75mm 2S 27,000 KV is way high for 2S you're going to be motor limiting down to like 60% probably which is awful low you're going to start
[02:29:12] to lose throttle resolution you should try them both and make the decision up for yourself but I'm going to tell you motor limit the out of those 27,000 KVs to make sure that you don't
[02:29:22] blow the aiio up or the motors up thr also says to be honest 75mm on 2S is absolutely incredible it really is render says thanks for all the fish you're certainly welcome I got to
[02:29:35] rewatch that movie oh maybe Maggie hasn't seen that movie text her right now have you seen what was the name of the movie I can like picture all the characters and the
[02:29:54] and the and the movie poster oh you son of a why are you 40s man don't turn 40 die before you turn 40 your brain just shits itself so long and thanks for all the fish maybe singing it will get me to
[02:30:14] remember the name of it oh my God 18 people are typing it into chat right now I will event somebody tag me in chat with the name of the movie son of a
[02:30:37] nun says thanks says cam freeze Denzel the 12 says you set aside an orange bt3 LED plug for me still have it yes somewhere you got this might be it right here is this it nope this is the white one I
[02:30:56] do have it somewhere message me and it's all yours bad says for cob LEDs on my 75mm check Discord General nonsense that's what I was looking for oh you Canon you dirty rat ho
[02:31:14] these are the cob LEDs that are just insane looking this is where you start to add Act ual weight though but boy is it cool I believe fly high FPV sells these super super super cool but
[02:31:28] you're going to add a legitimate amount of weight I might just leave this screen on for the chat I don't know if I have it in me to it doesn't take long I can read
[02:31:40] the chat while I'm doing it Graves says man you mentioned a wing bat batwing camera mount before when showing two of the whoops looked like a Z degree camera angle is it a print can it be
[02:31:51] bought anywhere one of our very generous members Timmons who does 3D design for a living designed that for us it is over on my Discord link to the Discord is on cpb.com and then there's a
[02:32:06] 3D printing there's a 3D printing channel on the Discord look it and it looks like there's already people posting in there and there's a there's a pinned Post in there called the Batwing so it's
[02:32:19] in 3D printing and then the Batwing it's super awesome you're going to have to print it for yourself though or find somebody to print it for you at some point I am going to print a bunch of bat
[02:32:28] wings McConnell Studios is sending me a whole bunch of the the red sort of translucent same smart TPU that I really like so at some point I will print a shitload of violet
[02:32:46] Saints smart violet and red batwing mount for you guys to buy on my Etsy store but I have to learn I have to properly learn how to use the 3D printer before I before that happens on the
[02:32:59] 12-hour live stream I plugged it in and went into the menu and hit Beni but I didn't actually learn how to use the slicer software any of that stuff I have to do that I'll get there I
[02:33:12] promise Sean glyph says I'm in for the 2S life I have snow outside right now should I do conformal coing I've got no experience with it a lot of components come from the
[02:33:29] factory conformal coded some of them don't if they're if you look at a component and it's kind of shiny that's usually a conformal cating yes you should do conformal cating
[02:33:42] it's cheap it's not difficult to do be really careful because if you get it onto a button or a plug it is game over you are not getting it off of those buttons or plugs so if
[02:33:58] you're going to fly around water a lot absolutely you should conformal coat if it snows once every few years like it does here in Georgia maybe don't because there's that
[02:34:12] chance that you'll get it on to one of the plugs and then you're done that that uh PCB is just really ruined so if that's going to be what I say I'm not going to give you a
[02:34:24] straight yes or no it's all about how often you're flying in water born situations if you're flying around saltwater maybe don't bother because the saltwater is going to destroy regardless
[02:34:37] of the conformal coding the The Saltwater is going to annihilate stuff so I don't know that's a tough question crom says posted my first draft at the 04 batwing on the Discord we'll use it on in
[02:34:54] my 1S demo build to try to let to let friends try that spec I'm coming for Tim's job very cool crom I'm sure Timmons would be willing to work together with you he would probably give
[02:35:07] you the Batwing file that you can then adapt to the to the camera that would be amazing JP spin says didn't know your dad was in Fusion I am as well it's an interesting job
[02:35:20] for sure built the plasma acceleration sections for an FRC reactor very cool one of the coolest things for me growing up was when my dad would bring me to prin ppppl Princeton
[02:35:34] plasma physics lab and he would show me around the tokomak fusion reactor I'm a lucky dude Super Lucky to have that influence on my life I I regret that I didn't go into to
[02:35:49] engineering because man what a Launchpad my father would have been I i' I've learned a lot but I could have learned so much more I did I wasn't interested in it though I I I
[02:36:04] just if if I'd gone into engineering I don't know maybe I would have fallen in love but like I I I didn't have it in me at the time I didn't want to go to college at all to be honest I After High
[02:36:15] School I was kind of done with school I I I I didn't I didn't love it I wanted to start working I wanted to start making money I'm super glad that that my parents nudged me towards college and I got
[02:36:30] a communications degree in TV radio but I I was not interested in working hard and I knew that an engineering that being an engineering major would have been a lot of hard work and I I just I
[02:36:43] wasn't into it I could probably blame it on the mental illness depression has a way of kind of making you lazy because like you're fighting so hard against just being able to like
[02:37:00] function and stay alive really that like you're you're almost constantly like out of gas you're you're like you always kind of feel like mentally you're running on empty and so I don't
[02:37:13] know maybe it's a really good thing that I didn't go into engineering maybe that would have pushed me over the edge and I and I would have had the inevitable meltdown that I did
[02:37:24] in my 30s a lot earlier and maybe I wouldn't have made it out of it so maybe that maybe that was the universe's way of keeping me here but I I do
[02:37:36] I do I do wish that I had because like with with FPV it's really I I've really fallen in love with the engineering side of FPV certain elements of it a lot of like the aerodynamics
[02:37:48] are fascinating to me but I'm a very different person now maybe I I wouldn't have fallen in love with it back then maybe I didn't have it in me 20 years ago right so
[02:38:03] I used to have a real fear of regret working on not regretting things I I've worked a lot on not regretting things in the many many many many many years of talk therapy that I've been
[02:38:16] in and that's what you guys just got to see actually you got to see me fall into the regret trap and then dig myself out of it pretty quickly which is what a lot of and or a lot of talk
[02:38:30] therapy or a really good talk therapy talk therapist will teach you how to do so check it out friends do if you have health insurance go to a talk therapist and figure out how your brain
[02:38:42] works and you'll live a better life it's life-changing stuff for sure and if you have health insurance you can probably go for like 20 bucks a session which is an incredible deal I pay $150 a
[02:38:54] session but I'm alive because of it and so that's worth it Pito 801 says I vaguely remember that maybe you talked about it but the 2g4 I managed to strip the UFL from was
[02:39:08] probably because the ball sack canopy is too close to the camera and kicked the UFL during a crash I've not had problems with the UFL on the 2g4 I have had problems with the
[02:39:22] ceramic antenna getting knocked off but the UFL I've never had an issue with there's just enough clearance I guess maybe you could hit hard enough but I I've hit 2
[02:39:36] G4S more and harder than anyone on Earth so I would I'll bet that it I can see what you're saying but I'll bet you it didn't have to do with the with the with the ball sack
[02:39:49] [Laughter] canopy it's bad enough that I call it the ball sack canopy the fact that I've encouraged hundreds if not thousands of people to call it the ball sack
[02:40:08] Camp I don't know if that's good or bad I don't know if I should be ashamed about that or if I should celebrate that but here we are danilla says who uses analog any anymore it's not the 80s I do
[02:40:21] everybody that wants good flight performance does all the people in the no still fly analog how about [Laughter] that hold on I'm scrolling back up YouTube did the thing again scroll me to
[02:40:36] the bottom I'm almost caught up on chat danilla terrible says Brandin don't don't se he only goes so he can touch other women
[02:40:50] so January of 2024 Maggie my partner Maggie was a phenomenal belly dancer for many years an instructor for a while a dance fitness instructor she's got this incredible history of dance I've I've
[02:41:08] known that since very early on meeting her I've always I've always kind of had this feeling that like if I was in a room of people like the the dude in that room that knew how to dance he was kind
[02:41:22] of like the coolest guy like I don't know it's just it's just like a cool thing man like not many guys know how to dance and I don't know it's just cool like no like a song
[02:41:34] that Mo that makes your brain wrinkle comes on and it's like known how to move your body in a way that like make makes everybody else be like oh damn like that's just cool that's always
[02:41:45] but I've never I I never touched it never did any dance anything at all I grew up in the ' 80s and 90s and dance was gay and gay was bad right so I never thought twice about it
[02:42:00] it's was just never like on my radar to actually dance learn how to dance right you can't just dance you have to learn how to dance it's a thing if you haven't learned how to dance and
[02:42:10] you think how to dance you should go learn how to dance cuz you probably look silly that's okay though I mean who cares what anybody else thinks about you if you're having a
[02:42:20] good time but a year ago Maggie saw a Facebook ad for a coup's dance class at the local bar here to us that we first met we went on our first date and I was like oh cool a like super
[02:42:40] super interesting like I've always kind of been like oh dance is kind of neat I'm now 43 brave enough to do hard things awesome B like oo Maggie will love that I'll I'll I'll be the
[02:42:54] the the Dreamboat dude like willing to go couples's dance and Coupes dance you can hide behind your partner right like individual like learning to dance just individual dancing like oh boy that's
[02:43:08] intimidating as hell but like couples dance it's like welllet's both go and look like idiots and then I'll feel 50% less dumb because you'll be there with me and with Maggie it's like you
[02:43:18] know she knows how to dance so she'll make it look good I can just stand there nobody be looking at me and so we went and it was awesome and I had a total blast couples dance is fantastic
[02:43:28] because like the basis behind couples dance is communicating with the other person nonverbally right and that we don't do much of that anymore and so I had a blast and that dance class
[02:43:41] was taught by a guy named Wilder and he was a super cool guy and we went pretty much every Sunday last year and I learned had a couple's dance and I kind of fell in love he he
[02:43:58] introduced me to a specific kind of coup's dance called West Coast Swing that I like really kind of fell in love with and started going on Wednesday nights to a West Coast Swing specific
[02:44:08] couples dance class a few months ago I actually started taking private lessons with one of the instructors from there every other Tuesday super fun if if you've never seen West Coast
[02:44:19] just search it on YouTube it's an improv dance you will see people like the the at the upper levels you'll see them dancing and you'll be like no way that's improv that is
[02:44:29] absolutely choreographed they've been working on that for months nope it's improv they're insane it's wild what two people that are really good at West Coast Swing that have never danced
[02:44:40] before can do to music it's really really cool stuff and so Wilder taught me couples dance every single Sunday this year and then I refined my West Coast Swing stuff on
[02:44:55] Wednesday nights couple of weeks after the election unfortunately Wilder took his own life and I didn't know that he had depression I knew that he had
[02:45:07] anxiety and for me someone that's lived with depression for 43 years to not know that someone that I'd become friends with and that I saw every single Sunday didn't have it or I didn't know that
[02:45:24] he had it that is how sneaky depression is and that is how hard it is to tell right like if anybody should have been able to tell it's me right somebody that has an FPV therapy text channel on his
[02:45:42] Discord an FPV therapy Facebook group somebody that talks about it every other live stream right you have people in your life that struggle with depression every single
[02:45:53] day of their lives and you have no idea you are probably not as good at me as spotting it right so keep that in mind because that's important the the the Sunday dance class I'm I
[02:46:11] refuse to let it go away and Maggie and I are the are the two or two of Wilder's student that went the most and so we learned the most about his style of teaching and what he taught
[02:46:27] and so I just said what like I'm not that great at dancing yet but I learned enough from Wilder that I'm going to turn this into like we're calling it like a dance club but
[02:46:38] I I'm I go on Sundays and we've had a couple other people that have stepped up to teach specific stuff Tango Bata which has been great but Sundays I I will do
[02:46:52] everything I possibly can to keep this going to keep this group of people we we've got like this Core group of like 20 people that came to most of these and we've become great friends and
[02:47:03] and so that's what my Sunday nights are from 7 to 9 is keeping this thing going and what's been cool is Wilder never really dove in the West Coast Swing because it's tough to teach
[02:47:16] beginners he kept it as like a really beginner class we have this core group of folks right the Facebook ads have now stopped so we don't get as many new people but we have this Core group and
[02:47:27] they're interested in West Coast Swing so all of this learning that I've done with with with that I've been able to share with them which has been great because I actually I'm half I'm starting
[02:47:38] to get somewhat decent at West Coast Swing so I'm somewhat able to teach it and so there you guys go those are my son Sunday nights after these live
[02:47:51] streams Brad Mond says Darwin has elrs version elrs one to three we looked it up and it didn't look like it had elrs built in Frank Nicholas says yes elrs is youart per someone later in chat
[02:48:04] awesome Michael KZ says hist to the Galaxy thank you so much I couldn't think of the name of that movie a little bit ago and the last comment of the live stream is from PTO 801 he says not
[02:48:18] camera the front foot of the canopy is too close almost touching what Brad M says you looked at the wrong one okay cool Pito tell me more what what are we talking about here
[02:48:31] not camera but the front foot of the canopy is too close I I don't know what we're talking about Darwin let's see if there's a Darwin AIO Darwin AIO one 2 three s
[02:48:49] so I think this is the one that I looked at so let's click on a couple other ones see what we got so oh so there it is so there's the UFL port for elrs okay so Darwin does have an AIO
[02:49:05] that will work this is a big this is big see the the so let's look at an X12 the X12 is an oversized AIO that will only really work in the mobula 7 V3 and V4 frame which is kind
[02:49:28] of fine because that's the frame that we're talking about for these 75mm 2S builds and so if you look trying to find a picture it's straight on so if you look at the hole for The Grommet and
[02:49:40] then you draw a line for this part of the the AIO here you can see that it's basically in line with the outer part of The Grommet right and the X12 is considered to be an oversized AO it's as
[02:49:55] big as you're going to fit into the frames that we're talking about so now we look at the we look at the Darwin and we can kind of draw that same straight line so this looks like it
[02:50:09] is pretty big but it also kind of looks like it might still clear the location of the motor plugs is looking good so this might be an option this might be an option I don't
[02:50:27] know anything about it and it is it is kind of big looking but o 40 50 bucks is a good price and Darwin FPV apparently makes really good stuff so this is a this is a total
[02:50:41] Contender good call guys I like it elrs Port is off on the side here which is a little weird but I mean that'll be fine cool good find fellas bradm says but it's only 30 36
[02:50:56] bucks if it works Pito says Ballack canopy versus 2g4 UFL not camera but the front foot of the canopy oh oh oh oh I know what you're saying I know what you're saying it is close it is close I've never
[02:51:13] had that problem though I've been flying 2 G4S forever and I've never had the UFL get knocked off I see what you're saying though you could totally just you could totally just
[02:51:26] clearance that if if if you're worried about that I have done that on these on the the feet of the ball sack canopy I've I've clearanced them a bunch and they've never broken so there you
[02:51:39] go BMF Spade says Pon has run cam Nano 3s I bought the last ones that they had did they get more oh come on now wow they got more I'll be damned there you guys go run cam Nano 3's in
[02:52:05] stock at pyro drone you're going to have to direct solder them oh you're gonna have to direct solder them or swap the cable out but this is my favorite tiny whoop camera to use in
[02:52:18] the in the mulus 6 canopy I'll be damned this is the emac tiny Hawk version which is really bright some people some people don't but there you go N3 is and stuck
[02:52:30] good call fellas thanks for hanging friends this is a big live stream there were tons of people in here if you're new to the channel head on over to C fpv.one
[02:52:49] I'm not ready what flying am I going to play more of the W the same flight from the beginning of the the live stream this is the flight performance that we're going to get from the DJI 04
[02:53:07] light 2S 75mm builds I'll leave the OSD on this time in case you want to see that love you bye see you tomorrow night a n n