[00:03:11]   hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti welcome to the show fair warning I am in the middle of a depressive apocalypse right now so this is not going to be happy go-lucky

[00:03:26]   live stream but they aren't all and hopefully you're cool with that if you're not cool with that I totally understand lots of other stuff here on

[00:03:39]   YouTube I'll see you on Sunday tonight we're going to solder up the RC and power major major wasp W wasp major or wasp major I guess I've heard them pronounced

[00:04:00]   22.6 millimet wide 6.5 millim tall 1860 KB to a Glide build here that will hopefully not catch on fire during the first battery that I fly on it I had a I finished up a 5-in

[00:04:28]   build yesterday I put a whole bunch of time in and it caught on fire on the first battery and burned to the ground and that on top of some [@$#%] that happened on Wednesday night and some other

[00:04:44]   nonsense just pushed me over the edge and once you get pushed over the edge with depression it's takes a couple of days to come back unfortunately that's life for those of us that live

[00:05:00]   with mental illness sometimes so it's fine has nothing to do with you guys I appreciate your guys support if you choose to hang it's very cool of you but like I said I don't expect

[00:05:12]   anyone to these are the WASP Majors they they look really nice there's there's really no point in like visually reviewing a motor I guess they're all really really good quality nowadays I

[00:05:28]   am curious if the bells are lock tied so hard that you can't get the screws out they are so don't expect so don't bolt these directly up to a rig if you're out in the field and you need you

[00:05:45]   bend a bell and you need to pull the Bell off you're not going to be able to get the screws out my recommendation is going to be and I'll show you this in a while is to

[00:05:58]   well one of the only ways to get these screws out when they're super locked headed like this is to heat them up so I'm going to show you later you just put the tip of the

[00:06:06]   soldering iron on the bottom of the screw here as if you would with your driver get the screw really hot and then you can get it out of there and then you just run it in and out of the

[00:06:16]   Bell a couple of times to get the excess Loctite out or you can kind of wipe the screw out wipe the screw off a little bit to remove some of the extra Loctite from it

[00:06:31]   the motors look really good which means nothing but one of the things that they they have shortened so on most New Motors the the motor shafts are a little bit shorter because most new

[00:06:47]   current generation propellers have a slightly shorter Hub and so it looks like that's really smart okay all right so what has happened in the past is that they they shorten the motor shaft and

[00:07:09]   then they just give you these lowprofile M5 nuts these low profile M nuts s M5 nuts suck the these they're just not as good as the regular ones that we're used to on the motors they have these low

[00:07:25]   profile ones but then in the little baggies with the screws it looks like they have a regular height M5 nut which is great I I have a million of these so it's fine but so so

[00:07:38]   that's great because if you if you're running a newer propeller with the skinnier Hub you can run the the taller M5 nut which is really preferred but then if you're going to run an old

[00:07:52]   school propeller with a thicker Hub you're going to need to use the the low profile M5 nut which again is kind of fine like there's your little push to move to a newer propeller cuz most of

[00:08:05]   the current gen thinner Hub propellers do perform better so that's really smart of varc power to do that the little baggie of course comes with all the extra scw screws you would

[00:08:16]   expect an extra little rubber o-ring and washer for the inside of the motor once you do get the Bell off like I said the the motor looks good we'll weigh it in a little bit here

[00:08:28]   compare it to the F 40 Pro 4 not really going to fly them I mean I'll I'll spin them up in BetaFlight to get the motor directions correct but that's about it the the

[00:08:42]   foot the footage that you were watching at the beginning of the stream was actually from this little thing that I showed you guys the other night that I finished up this is a newbie drone

[00:08:53]   mosquito 2.5 in propeller frame and then it's a newbie drone blv 4 AIO that's why the the OSD is coming in and out in and out in and out and then I've got the the Newbie drone

[00:09:11]   1102 19,000 20,000 19,000 19,000 KV Motors on it and then these are GemFan 65mm s propellers 2.5 in is that with 6 65 millim 2.5 inch it is right 2.5 inch

[00:09:49]   nice lightweight byblade kind of Toothpick specific basically but not really but kind of this is newbie drone's new canopy that you can use screw Mount Nano sized cameras in and then this is a

[00:10:08]    cadx ant bt2.0 and I was running 450mah batteries the the weeed ones that we run in the 75 millim whoops so it's actually once I cranked the pids up it actually fle flew pretty good

[00:10:29]   good I I left I I let the intro run long so that you could see sort of the the progression of pit tuning that was happening and to kind of show you how simple it is right like fly it if

[00:10:43]   it's not absolutely locked in do exactly what you saw me do and I gave you the the the slightly more complicated version of tuning

[00:10:56]   where we moveed the the the two sliders instead of just one and then I also push the the dmax up a little bit because I just I like to have the dmax up at like 1.2 or sometimes even 1.4

[00:11:09]   1.5 dmax will push the d-gain even higher than how you have it set with the regular Dain only when it needs it so when it goes into the prop wash basically when it comes off of set point

[00:11:26]   when it's not doing what you're telling it to do on the sticks it will start raising the Dain up temporarily Dain causes motor heat so it allows you to boost the d-gain only when you need it

[00:11:38]   and then bring it back down for when you don't need it and you're cruising around to keep the motors cool most of the time and then heat them up in in in scenarios where you need it you

[00:11:52]   need the extra Dain so I I was I was pretty surprised at how well it flies the the it's not it's not very it's not super reactive and it's not super

[00:12:07]   Snappy even after pushing the D you could kind of so you guys saw me push the the the degain slider all the way up to 2.0 if you ever do that and the rig is not like razor well and Chase it

[00:12:24]   with the p& slider up to like I think 1.8 or so 1.7 1.8 if you've ever pushed the if if you ever have to push the P the the PID gains that High that's a Surefire sign that

[00:12:41]   you've got a basically a motor that's too small if if the motor was big enough for the weight and the amount of drag that the propeller is putting on it you wouldn't have to boost the pids

[00:12:56]   that far the fact that I was able to boost the pits that far without the damn thing flying away was pretty impressive that that shows you how stiff this frame is basically

[00:13:09]    this Frame is probably overly stiff to be honest they could probably make this a half a millimeter thinner and it would still be kind of okay and it would bring the weight of the rig down

[00:13:25]    but it is a unibody frame and so if you break an arm it's a complete pain in the ass right you have to rip the entire thing apart so if it's going to be a unibody I would rather it be a little

[00:13:36]   bit too heavy so that hopefully it never breaks so that that's what was going on there and then also the ability to push it that high means that you've got good soft mounting you don't

[00:13:50]   have anything pushing against the the AIO because I mean there's vibrations no matter what so there were a couple of things that pretty impressive these are again the

[00:14:03]   Newbie drone 1102 19000s I think they're maybe being held back by their KV I kind of wish they were 20,000 or 22,000 even these are not the motors that I'm going to leave on here I don't think

[00:14:19]    I think this is going to be the home for the RC and power 1003 22,000 KV Motors I just need to desolder the leads from them cuz they've got the regular leads and I'll have to solder on

[00:14:31]   the the Newbie drone leads that's not something that's going to happen within the next like week and a half or so that that's going to be an after Rampage project but I'm glad that I

[00:14:43]   have it up in the air we can start to figure out on a 2 and a half inch 1S toothpick what's the right motor these these weren't too bad though I mean it's was it was once the pit gains were up

[00:14:55]   higher it was flying around pretty decent we we can take a look at that that same day I also flew both of the the 75mm Jungle Jim Basher rigs one of them on both of them on

[00:15:16]   802 IGA Motors one of them on regular 27,000 KV IGA Motors and the other one on the the hybrid Motors that I built with the 30,000 KV stator bases so that was kind of interesting to fly

[00:15:31]   those two did we already look at this footage I hope we didn't already look did we already do this I'm getting like weird Deja Vu please let me know in the chat if we've already done this I I I my

[00:15:49]   brain doesn't work all that well when when I'm in this state so for the love of God tag me in the chat and let me know if we've already looked at the what so

[00:16:02]    we we have looked at footage from these two but it was it was when one of them was on BL s which is not fair the the 30,000 kv1 was on BL s and then so I fixed that and I and I

[00:16:19]   refle them on the same day that that I flew this guy I think I'm I think the Dej Deja Vu is from the original flying we did but let me know let me know in the chat if you guys don't mind speaking of

[00:16:40]   the chat hockey rounds was first Frank Nicholas was next hung out FPV Troy prog slow Cal hockey rounds Northern Tier kilo zebra rock crawler Gusto metal dirkin star Stripes jacket County FPV MC

[00:16:50]   mucas Captain Calgary Timmons rock crawler indosa safe Zone FPV hockey rounds again gusto County again Hendrick Freakazoid demo Walter 661 fre lojo metal dirt skin Nathan

[00:17:09]   Otis Armen drone Schubert Tech Playmate test Peno free ho beef FPV PD FPV what's up friends so we got that going for us which is nice what movie is that from anybody know

[00:17:32]   B5 PV says I had the same OSD flickering Issue blv 4 restarts to new drone and they instruct me to move the items at the top of the screen to the bottom and it stopped OSD cutting in and out that's

[00:17:43]   super weird I'm going to do that right now because otherwise I will not remember to do that we're not going to fly this to test it but I'm just going to it'll take three seconds to do it real quick

[00:17:54]   so that is wild and it and you said it worked beef strange the the the OSD flickering thing is super annoying it's one of the reasons why I don't fly the the hummingbird hardly at all

[00:18:15]    I also don't fly it hardly at all because it's been it's breaking I've not had very good luck with them durability wise but that's neither here there what just happened to this did

[00:18:33]   this just why is that so bendy what what's going on here I think one of these antennas might have just broken oh no no no no no this this shrink wrap just fell off the back of

[00:18:52]   the antenna that's super annoying whatever so if I go into OSD I'm just going to turn stuff off I'm just going to turn the craft name off and

[00:19:14]   then I don't really need to know what the pitch is turn the pitch angle off I could just pull them down to the bottom but whatever it's fine cool dude thank you for

[00:19:25]   mentioning that that has been driving me mad cool hold on let me just try to get this shrink wrap back over the the thing on these on these little tiny antennas I always try to put a little

[00:19:51]   piece of shrink wrap in between where the where the antenna where the active element of the antenna meets the meets the the shielded black cable part I've had a couple antennas that

[00:20:11]   after they they tend to fold and Bend there and after they sit there and bend a bunch of times they will they can kind of break the the active element so if you put a little piece of shrink wrap

[00:20:28]   there it makes it a lot stronger so but in this case the shrink wrap like popped up and off it's kind of weird I do I I need to figure out a better way to run the the shrink wrap

[00:20:50]   on this little guy though it's not the shrink crap the the elrs antennas they're just poking out top waiting to just asking to get dropped down into the propellers and chopped to

[00:21:03]   bits but on Tiny whoops there's not there's not sorry not tiny whoops on toothpicks it's kind of tough there's not a lot of there's not a lot of spots for them to for the

[00:21:16]   antennas to stick up and out but the the goober canopy is pretty good the goober canopy has a bunch of these holes up on on top that you can usually

[00:21:33]   use not always but sometimes and so I take the little bit of shrink wrap and just run it down here and I can't even grab this they're kind of short

[00:21:48]    and just put it right over the The Junction and then like when you pull on this it's going to it's going to move the entire wire otherwise it'll Bend right at the right at the the the joint

[00:22:01]   between the two and you don't want that that'll that'll eventually break so let's hit this see if we can get it to shrink up a little bit more so it doesn't fall off

[00:22:15]   again and there we go all right so hopefully that will not fall off and so here's what I'm talking about on the and actually I'm going to run it out the I'm going to run them

[00:22:33]   out the very top ones so let's use these top holes here which will run the antennas absolutely straight up just to get them as far away from the propellers as as we possibly can so

[00:22:54]   put it through there and then that shrink wrap is not going to want to go through there but that's okay so we'll run that up there and then this other one we'll

[00:23:07]   redo to run it up on top as well see how that works because I was already noticing running them out the back holes that they were getting really close to the propellers so let's

[00:23:20]   run them out top like this and see if that's any better there we go cool oh man this motor must have taken a hit's starting to sound Jank already one of the with with toothpicks man i'

[00:23:38]   I've had a really tough time with durability over the years it's one of the reasons I stopped flying them I just got sick of eating Motors but

[00:23:51]    in the chat if you want to talk directly to me all you got to do is type c FPV and then C fpb.cc crawler says did anybody did anybody notice that Bardwell is streaming in an

[00:24:11]   hour kind of worried that he'd overlap I did not notice that I wonder what he's up to Friday night at 8 Eastern he must be doing a special thing maybe he's like doing gaming or something I

[00:24:22]   guess demo FPV says what's up gangly gang St strap jacket says so are you selling the HD Z goggles and buying the new hd0 monitor that can do analog and has HDMI out I hadn't even heard of that

[00:24:35]   hd0 monitor that can do analog and has HDMI out originally I was thinking about selling the HD zero goggles back when I thought that they weren't outputting proper 60 frames a second

[00:24:50]   but when I realized what a jackass I was I kind of changed my mind so I don't really have any plans and selling them although if there's a monitor they are still heavy and gigantic and sort of

[00:25:06]   uncomfortable if there's a monitor that does analog and has HDMI out I can just set that up and then have that push to the to the TVs and I can also have that handle the DVR HD Z's

[00:25:26]   DVR setup is fantastic it a automatically starts recording and it automatically stops recording and it doesn't screw it up like most of the other ones that I've used

[00:25:35]   do and then that would allow me to run fat sharks so that's kind of interesting hd0 monitor that would be kind of cool doesn't look like there's any oh here we

[00:26:00]   go wow that's really cheap holy Christ HDMI output look at that well [@$#%] once somebody confirms that it actually does that stuff I very well might

[00:26:30]   wow that's really really cool it looks like it has analog built in I wonder how good the I wonder how good the receiver is although it doesn't the the current HD zero goggles don't

[00:26:47]   seem to Jive all that well with the rapid fire so it doesn't even have to be that good it just has to be like kind kind of okay super interesting thank you for calling this out I had not seen this

[00:27:08]    although I don't see anything about DVR I swear to God if this thing doesn't have a DVR built in I'm GNA smash everything in site built-in DVR okay good [@$#%] I think this will do

[00:27:22]   everything I want it to I literally bought these these HD zero goggles just for the HDMI out so they they don't really do me any good as goggles to be honest and especially with the fact that they don't

[00:27:39]   seem to work right it's not it's not they don't work right they just don't work as good with a rapid fire module as fat shark Goggles do which is very confusing I have

[00:27:50]   absolutely no idea why that's the case but that was the experience that Patrick and I had at his place over and over and over again last weekend or two weekends ago whenever it was

[00:28:04]   so this this would be this this might be exactly what I want Andor need I'm going to leave this tab open good call thank you for mentioning that stars and stripes hockey round says bummer

[00:28:19]   dude I hope you FL out of it soon I just had about myself thank you brother Tim says we're all human another day cometh indeed it does fro Joo put in the patreon Link in the chat thank you

[00:28:30]   man slow Cal says while flying my 75mm with IGA 802s motor number one is falling out of the sky while throttle blipping hard with some yaw after a split s is that the issue you were

[00:28:43]   seeing I never do I know we we talked about it the other night I never really I I haven't had a chance to dive in and figure out figure it out but motor number one is

[00:29:06]   right rear so if if you're yawing if if you are props in and you are yawing left and rolling left that is is going to ask a lot of motor number one so if that's when

[00:29:27]   it's happening it could be similar to what I've got going on let's dive into the flight footage I guess and I'll show you guys what we're sort of talking about

[00:29:40]   we're we're kind of playing I almost said indoor baseball it's not it at all I forget the saying so this which hold on I hopefully gave myself a hand signal as to

[00:30:02]   which build this is there we go 27,000 KV okay so this is the 27,000 KV 0802 rig so see that I didn't do that on the sticks I didn't do that on the sticks either right so during

[00:30:23]   hard at the moment it's right right rolls let's keep looking that didn't that looked like it was uncommanded there as well so this is so there you go

[00:30:42]   so all right let's take a look at that so that was a yaw left a hard yaw left and it looked like it was let's slow it down a little bit play back it's open Apple bracket

[00:31:02]   left all right so if we go back a little bit and then we're going to slow it down to quarter speed oh come on here we go so we're going to yaw left it's important if it

[00:31:13]   happens during or at the end of the move it looks it's happening during right yall come on yall left and so it's happening during the move so one more

[00:31:35]   time yaong left and then it and then it drops out to the right so both of these rigs are set up props in and this is one of the potential problems with props in is

[00:31:51]   that it just makes it's can it's just sort of harder so yall left right what that means with props in is that so this guy's spinning this direction so it's

[00:32:10]   spinning and it's gonna spin spin spin if it increases if it in hold on so it's spinning if it's if it increas okay so the right rear is increasing in r PM in order to turn the rig to the left cuz

[00:32:32]   it's going to it's going around and it's going to push right it spins this when it's props in it spins this direction and so when it spins faster it's going to push this rig and also the the left

[00:32:46]   front motor the left front motor does the same thing these other two motor four Motors two and three break they're spinning and then they stop and that so they're

[00:33:01]   spinning and then they stop yep that's you all left so they stop and that forces this thing to rotate so in this move these and so the the the breaking is fine the braking never

[00:33:16]   causes issues it's putting a bunch of power to Motors that can show issues with either the ESC or the motors themselves so these two Motors are cranking up and then we can see it drop

[00:33:33]   the right side so that completely isolates this motor here and this ESC channel here so the first thing that I should do for this troubleshoot is take this motor and this motor and swap them

[00:33:48]   and then do the exact same thing and if when I do that it drops the left front we know that the left front motor is bad because that's the motor that was back here and it was dropping the right side

[00:33:59]   and then we moved it up there and it's dropping the left side it's not the only time that it was doing it though we can we can actually go back to those

[00:34:11]   rolls really early on and kind of isolate see now this is where it gets kind of interesting so we're going to slow it down again all right

[00:34:29]   so this is going to be a left roll begin or a right roll and in the middle of it's drops I think I did another one here okay so here we go do it again past me right roll and you can see

[00:34:50]   there it just shits its pants which is a little weird all right so on a left roll it fires these two Motors up which it seems to do fine it starts rolling over fine and then towards the end of

[00:35:13]   it I think what's happening is I'm pulling the stick back to Center and it's firing this motor up to slow it down right to start it these two guys come on and shoot hard and then to stop

[00:35:28]   it when you return back to zero it fires these two up to slow it down and so it looks like when it does that that's when the problems start let's take a look again left

[00:35:46]   Motors right motor and it and it seems to pitch back and look up which would make sense if it's motor number one do it again left Motors fire right motor fires maybe if I had stick overlay it

[00:36:03]   would be better but the stick overlay is so slow in the OSD that it's kind of pointless anyway now we're going to do a left roll and it's completely fine which is super weird and I think we

[00:36:15]   do another left roll here there it is again on the right roll nope wait wait whatever interesting oh that was weird what did it do there so front flip back flip whatever no

[00:36:47]   backflip so that's something on the left side that's weird wait wait no no no no not necessarily what was that that was a back flip okay so that was the back left motor

[00:37:05]   though back flip the front Motors fire up to get it started and then the back Motors fire up to get it stopped and then it's basically did that which means that motor number

[00:37:22]   three weird okay let's go back one more time let's let's think about motor number three so come on come on come on I know I know I know wait wait

[00:37:45]   wait all right motor number three is left rear ready we are going to go left side Motors fire up oh it might be motor number two because it's might have happened in the

[00:38:00]   middle of the move ready now both left side Motors fire up they keep pushing to keep it rotating around H okay so it might actually be motor number three that we're having

[00:38:16]   issues with cuz it look it's starting to look it's not at the end of the move it's in the middle of the it's in the middle of the flip and or roll there was another one where it

[00:38:34]   happened I think it already happened okay let's see here come on left side Motors fire and they keep okay no I think it's left rear I think it's motor number three I believe

[00:38:52]   it's happening so my best guess is that during the rotation these two Motors fire up hard to get it started and then they keep pushing and my guess is going to be that this motor is is overheating or

[00:39:11]   something's going on but after it's continues to push push push push push push push push push push push push push push push it's then Letting Go although that starts to make me kind of think

[00:39:21]   it's the ESC the the motor I doubt that the motor getting hot is going to drop all the way out my guess is going to be that it's an ESC fet and so that's happening on this rig here which

[00:39:35]   is the one unfortunately with the X12 AIO so it's starting to look like maybe it's a motor back here so I mean if if if one of the if if we're having trouble figuring out it's definitely one of the

[00:39:53]   motors in the back because it keeps looking up right so the right way to troubleshoot this would be to take both rear Motors and put them on the front and then the front Motors on the back

[00:40:04]   and and redo this and see if it starts nosing down instead of nosing up that's going to confirm that again it's either the motors or the ESC Channel but instead of doing that

[00:40:20]   troubleshoot what I'm actually going to do is put it to props out props out it's specifically the the one main moment that it makes a big difference is when you're pitching when you're pitching and

[00:40:40]   rolling sorry when you're yawing and rolling when you're with props in so we talked about how this motor and this motor are what make it yaw to the left right

[00:40:58]   and so if we roll to the left it's also this motor so if you're cornering and you're pushing a bunch of yaw and left yaw and left roll this motor has to do both things it has to

[00:41:12]   both fire up to create the yaw rotation and it also has to fire up to create the roll and back in the early days of tiny whoops we realized that after these things when when you would do that

[00:41:28]   movement when you would jam both sticks to spin it around real quick it would do it would drop it's would drop the right rear or the left rear depending on which direction you're going and what

[00:41:38]   we realized is that going props out helps because going to props out reverses the rotation and so in that left-handed left yaw left roll maneuver it's actually going to spin

[00:41:54]   this motor up for the yaw because everything is spinning the opposite direction now so this motor is going to have to do the yaw and then these motors are going to have to do the roll well

[00:42:04]   these two Motors are going to have to do the yaw and then these two are going to have to do the roll and so it just kind of spreads the it spreads the love out a little more and the rear

[00:42:16]   you're usually pitching forward as well so the rear Motors are typically doing more work on top of all that so out of curiosity very recently I moved a couple of these tiny whoops I

[00:42:30]   think it's just these two I moved them to props in and all of a sudden this starts happening so in the interest of look at the most recent change and reverse that change that's what I'm

[00:42:45]   going to do on only the rig that was doing it so this is the 30,000 KV rig which was not doing it this is the 27,000 KV rig that was doing it I'm gonna put this guy back to

[00:43:00]   props out and that'll also I'm Gonna Leave This on props in and that'll also let me maybe tell if there's any difference between props in and props out I'm not going to be able to tell but

[00:43:11]   I'm going to do a quick change on this guy to see if that behavior stops I didn't realize it was doing it this often though this is pretty nasty but here's the rest of the flying th this

[00:43:25]   is also going to be an exam the rest of this flying is an example of how you can kind of fly around stuff like once I realized that this was going on it's like all right I can either go back

[00:43:37]   inside and start changing [@$#%] or I can just kind of fly around this and I I should have probably gone inside and changed it but you can fly around this stuff just it's pretty

[00:43:48]   much more often than not when I first take off I do a bunch of hard flips and rolls like this because it's puts the ESC and the motors and everything under a bunch of stress and

[00:44:02]    I want to like figure this [@$#%] out as quickly as possible so we'll also get to see like when this Behavior happens more often than not right like flips and rolls sure you're

[00:44:13]   specifically doing movements to try to find this stuff but then when you're actually flying it's actually kind of surprising how infrequently this stuff will happen which again is is is

[00:44:25]   the reason why you should do hard flips and rolls in my opinion at the beginning of every battery just to make sure that the thing is healthy right so wow that's a nasty one

[00:44:38]   there Jesus I guess technically there's also the chance that this is Crash recovery but it's not but just in thinking about everything that it could possibly be so what am I looking for I am looking for

[00:44:56]   oh Idol idol okay so my first oh thrust linear that's an interesting place to try to troubleshoot it I was really looking for the

[00:45:11]   minimum the the idol I wanted to change the wow it didn't make it any better I was looking to up the so it's happening when I'm zero throttle which is what made me think

[00:45:26]   to raise the the idol and this is me looking for where the idol is I I won't find it because it's not in here it's something that you have to change in BetaFlight this is also me getting

[00:45:37]   [@$#%] chewed by mosquitoes but this is me looking for the where I can adjust the dynamic Idol this is also when it was on it was still on Dynamic Idol brand ISB beans

[00:45:51]   last week had said that on anything 1 s recently the the blue jay devs realized that you actually want to or maybe it was the BetaFlight devs realized that you don't want to run

[00:46:01]   Dynamic Idol so I think at some point I did go inside and turn Dynamic idle off but I don't know maybe this is helpful you guys kind of just following along with my I thought

[00:46:13]   that I'd found it here but these numbers don't make much sense like i' I'd raised it up and then I kind of realized that those numbers weren't making any sense but we gave it a shot I I don't think it

[00:46:26]    I don't think it had any effect I don't think it helped and then when I plugged into B know when I plugged into BetaFlight I realized that that's not what I was changing I don't know what that

[00:46:36]   value was that I was changing there but so there you go there there's some some live sort of troubleshooting in theory now I mean I think we're flying the same rig in theory I took it

[00:46:47]   inside and changed some stuff let's see so it's definitely the same camera and now now it's way better so I'm assuming that I went inside and turned the digital idle off

[00:47:04]   I'm pretty sure though that it's did it a little I think it'll do it again but turning the digital idle off and I think I raised the idol up the I did go into ESC configurator I'm also now

[00:47:17]   flying from inside because of the goddamn mosquitoes see it's still doing it a little bit there so it definitely made it better but it is still there a little bit

[00:47:27]   and I decided decided to hell with it like let's let's just fly it around and see how often it actually happens so so this is the 27,000 KV rig the whole point of me flying these was to

[00:47:42]   get a comparison point the 27,000 versus the 30,000 and so that's the 27,000 KV rig much better I think that was just the end of that battery this is is

[00:47:58]   now is this the same oh man nope so there you go it's is still doing it this is the same rig it is still doing it Jesus oh look at the core temperature going up that's interesting that that's

[00:48:19]   that starts to really point it Point towards it being the the ESC fets and not the motors but what one of the other one of the reasons I wanted to talk through

[00:48:30]   this is that there's there's multiple ways that you can fix these problems right like the the right way to fix it is always to try to fix the mechanical system but you can't always

[00:48:41]   do that right like these motors are out of stock and so oh boy there it is real bad so let's take a look at that one that was so this is one of the hardest things that you can do is full

[00:48:54]   roll right full all to the right and so let's watch ready we we'll very easily see which motor is doing it so we got hard right y'all and it's a left side motor for sure and that

[00:49:12]   almost looked like it NOS down that time but I don't know so right y' full right yaw and roll the roll is going to crank up these motors the yaw is going to crank

[00:49:31]   up yep the yaw is going to crank up this motor so I think it's the that almost completely confirms that it's this motor Andor ESC channel here motor 3 yesc channel 3

[00:49:46]    so the right thing to do would be to swap this motor out that would be the quickest and easiest way if I could get my hands on them but there's other ways to kind

[00:50:00]   of troubleshoot this and try to kind of work around it right and so we increased thrust linear because this is happening when I'm zeroed on the throttle we

[00:50:12]   increased the we turned off the digital Idol and went to regular idle in the motors Tab and then I also raised that up a little bit this gets the so these problems

[00:50:27]   happen when the motors are down at low RPM typically and they that's when they have the least amount of power so if you can just get the motors out of low RPM and get them spinning a little bit more

[00:50:37]   there'll be more power there and that that's also a way to kind of isolate if it's the motor or if it's the ESC the ESC won't necessarily it won't make a difference on the

[00:50:51]   ESC side if you're spinning the motor a little bit faster but again we're just trying to get the motor to stop kind of stalling out here and then again you you can

[00:51:03]   fly around a lot of this stuff right we're we're still ripping pretty good here and we haven't had it happen in a while so sometimes it's kind of like well we can leave this and just

[00:51:14]   we got to fly this rig a little bit gentle what sucks about that though is that you'll forget to fly the damn thing gentle you'll forget which rig it is and then and it's just stupid

[00:51:25]   to not push these things really hard right like that's part of the fun is blasting these things around but if you're like out somewhere or if the thing is out of stock

[00:51:38]   there's different ways that you can get it to still work so that you can still enjoy it while you're waiting for it to come back in and so these are the 27,000

[00:51:49]   KV Motors they might not be performing all the way up to par for 27,000 KV but now here this is the 30,000 KV motor rig this is one of the things that we wanted to this

[00:52:01]   is the whole reason that I was doing this is so that I can compare these two that the OSD is just at the time the OSD was all jacked up on this thing I have it fixed now but this is now the

[00:52:10]   30,000 KV rig I could now that they were both on Blue J there's a definite difference in power the the 30,000 KV Motors definitely make a little bit more Jam this is me just kind of pumping

[00:52:24]   the throttle up and down to try to not noticed that I had to go back to Flying outside so I could hear it and listen for the motors to spin up to the higher KV here you go

[00:52:36]   again what okay hold on so I that was the hand signal for 27,000 KV Motors so that would mean that the the rig that was having the problems is the 30,000 KV rig

[00:52:58]   okay that's interest although wait no this is doing it again no no no no no no we're good we're good I'm wrong the the OSD threw me off the I I was looking at the OSD font I

[00:53:09]   thought the OSD font changed wait didn't the OSD font change what the hell hold on oh nope it didn't why did I think that oh wait no it was a previous battery I can't just rewind hold on what

[00:53:23]   did the OSD font change on me what's happening hold on I'm very confused now so this is the small OSD font but this is the little toothpick and then this is the one that was

[00:53:46]   having oh no the OSD font didn't change oh but look it's the it's the super minimal OSD so this this is the 30,000 KB rig what the heck hell the cameras also look

[00:53:58]   drastically different on these two I hate when I forget to when I'm doing this testing it's really important to have some indication of which one is which so I've got the OSD turned

[00:54:18]   off here which is not super helpful that's probably where the confusion came in there we go and it's the janky OSD okay so the janky OSD is the so it's the 30,000 KV okay all right

[00:54:38]   so this starts to make sense the 30,000 KV rig I've got a 5 amp mobula AO that I believe I remember putting it into here because it wasn't working totally perfect on the 65mm

[00:54:56]   rigs so all right that makes more sense I I was a little confused a minute ago when I was thinking it was the X12 rig because I've not had any problems with this X12 AIO so okay it's

[00:55:10]   the 30,000 KV rig that's the problem so I'm going to go back to props out and we'll see what that does but I think it's an ESC Channel issue if so there's that not much much

[00:55:26]   of a difference 27,000 KV versus 30,000 I I think that the I think that the ow 802 27s are plenty I I don't think there's any real any any reason for their for us to like bug tiny whoop to

[00:55:43]   make an 0802 30,000 33,000 maybe it might be cool to have a 33,000 KV 802 with a 1 and half mm motor shaft like what I built on the indestructible rig because those Motors

[00:55:58]   will work for an indestructible 65 and then you can also put them on a Jungle Jim Basher rig and just turn them down a little bit just throttle Li them down to like 80%

[00:56:11]   what would 80% of 33,000 KBB 33 z z time8 that would bring him down perfect 26,400 so you could like 82% throttle liit whatever like like throttle Li to 70% fly it and if it

[00:56:28]   has enough power for you great if it doesn't try 80% if it still doesn't try 90% you can keep getting more motor more power rather so that might be cool to have an 802 33,000 KV 1

[00:56:43]   and a half mm motor shaft motor that might be really really nice would be cool to have a motor that works on both 65 and 75 right we don't necessarily I me no we we don't

[00:56:56]   really have that so that would be kind of neat maybe I'll talk to Jesse about that we keep Jesse and I keep missing each other so I I I wanted to take a look at that I I think the rest of these

[00:57:12]   flights are just me flying these things more I I don't I don't think you can really see the difference between 27 and 30 in the flight footage here we go three okay so here's

[00:57:29]    all right so here's the 30,000 KV this is probably after I made a bunch more changes let's let's see if it actually does it anymore and I think I should be

[00:57:42]   flying it a little bit harder the the the camera looks a lot worse but this is actually what like raw like if if you set like a proper HD cam into into one of its like raw modes or

[00:58:03]   un don't boost the [@$#%] out of the contrast modes this is actually what it'll look like and it and it gives you more data that you can then bring out in just face first you can bring out in

[00:58:14]   in editing so this isn't bad per se this is just different unless you don't want to edit the footage if you don't want to edit the footage then the other Nano 3 in the other rig which

[00:58:25]   is the the emac Nano Hawk nano3 looks better than this this is like very washed out but again this is kind of what I want for when I get it into Premiere and it looks it's not really

[00:58:42]   misbehaving all that much well it was a pretty hard yaw and roll to the right and it was fine there so some of the changes seem to have helped as

[00:58:53]   I clatter it into the mailbox but I'm definitely going to go back to props out because I don't I don't see any real improvement from props in I was able to take this thing

[00:59:06]   off from the grass a whole bunch of times which a lot of times tiny whoops have a really hard time with I think that's just cuz these motors do make good power with low power motors like

[00:59:16]   they literally won't be able to push a blade of grass out of the way and you'll have to go hunt it down every single time that you crash in the ground ass which is just impossibly

[00:59:28]   annoying so and this is also me trying to figure out what like how to fly a 75mm tiny whoop outside right like finding tiny little gaps in the garden one single leaf getting stuck in the

[00:59:41]   motor and stalling it out right just talking about that so I mean this is one of the other things that drives me mad about tiny whoops outside is Like Anything Goes goes in in the in the duct and

[00:59:59]   you're taking the walk obviously not the end of the world but here's the other camera on the X12 rig to give you that kind of head-to-head camera comparison this is going to be oh and

[01:00:11]   you can really see the purple somebody had mentioned in chat last week some of the runam Nano 3s have this terrible purple in the corners and this is one of them and again this is the

[01:00:25]   this is the emac Nano Hawk version of the runam Nano 3 that you have to direct solder and so this is on the X12 but this is this is me flying more 75mm tiny woop batteries

[01:00:39]   outside the house figuring out like what's fun like what what how do you how do you fly a slow rig outside and have it still be interesting having that purple in the corners though that's

[01:00:52]   that sucks that really sucks there's that's going to be a nightmare to get out in premere excuse me so I don't love that but at least it's on the sides and not like

[01:01:09]   everywhere Walter says you're a smart cook cookie think for yourself grab opportunities think positive it's forming positive thinking you got a lot to be grateful for people like me

[01:01:24]   and and the rest of them thank you dude meton says that's pretty much Bob's original toothpick formula I still love it after all this time I'm not

[01:01:36]    I'm not I'm not I'm not totally down with the 1S toothpick thing I I I think toothpick should be 2S minimum schuber technology says chat is being ignored so I'm punching have a good one Schubert

[01:01:55]   if if you ever come back or or if you watch this on repeat I don't read the entire chat U this is that's not the live stream that I want to put on I tell you guys every single live stream

[01:02:06]   at the beginning that if you type CiottiFPV into your chat comment I will absolutely read your chat or if you do a super chat I will read it but my live streams are not just man gets in front

[01:02:15]   of camera and reads that that is boring as [@$#%] as far as I'm concerned so sorry that you didn't get the memo on needing to just type my name but it should be anyway like in chat

[01:02:28]   there's lots of other people right so just like typing a chat comment you can't expect every single person in chat to read it so if you're typing to a person just like in the real world right

[01:02:38]   like you don't just walk up to a stranger and just like you walk up to somebody you say like mister or like if their name you say their name so in the chat same deal like type

[01:02:49]   someone's name and then YouTube will light that up in Orange for them and then they'll know that you're talking to them you can't just expect every single person to read every single thing you

[01:02:56]   type so sorry if you didn't get the memo I do say it at the beginning of every single live stream but that's how it works that's what this live stream is you probably won't

[01:03:06]   see this because you're gone now it sounds like but if you ever do see this that's how it works here and it works really really well this way I can actually like do things rather than just

[01:03:16]   read I can have like subjects I can teach you guys a lot more and impart a lot more of the wisdom that I've picked up in like the eight years that I've been doing this rather

[01:03:26]   than just mindlessly reading through the chat so that's why I choose to do it that way if you don't that's on you totally fine but I have found that in in many many many years of

[01:03:37]   doing this that this is the best possible way of doing it and so trust me I know what I'm doing maybe I don't know maybe you're a huge live streamer and you're you found a

[01:03:46]   better way of doing it if so that's great I love that for you but I've experimented a lot over the last three plus years in live streaming and this way that I've chosen to do it is

[01:03:55]   definitely the best way so if you want to hang around that's how it's going to work B FPV says I had the same o we got that thank you again for that beef Nathan Otis says you good dude

[01:04:11]   I'm not but sometimes you have to work when you feel like [@$#%] Bren Anderson says that was the dja Ciotti EFC furore Flash and refly salute

[01:04:26]    I forget what what we were talking about I'm way behind on chat I apologize dude it's my bad Michael blade says what's up AJ Farris says did you see the hd0 monitor you sent you Bots video would be

[01:04:45]   perfect for you does I'm starting to think it's is exactly what I need Co power says did you see mad's new video I don't know if it does HDMI but it should one of the I'm

[01:04:59]   assuming that Cole is referring to the HD Zer monitor I did not see that video but I did see M I didn't watch it but from the thumbnail it madtec Tour Part the Ava 2 and the headline in the

[01:05:14]   thumbnail is like you won't be repairing this one so that sucks I mean that not surprising I when when when when I took apart the Avada one for

[01:05:31]   somebody and stupidly agreed to put it into an axis frame I was actually kind of surprised that it's wasn't more unrepairable so it does not surprise me at all that the IAT 2 is worse in

[01:05:51]   that respect I don't know if you want to be super cynical you can say like oh they did that on purpose because they want more repair Revenue I don't know I don't know about that

[01:06:04]    I think it's more of a case of they it's hard to build [@$#%] it's look at cars right it's really hard to build a very complex system that is then also easy

[01:06:20]   for somebody to take apart and repair the more the more [@$#%] that you pack into something the more of a pain in the ass it's going to be to take apart and repair right

[01:06:32]   one of the brilliant things about Miatas is that they don't have anything like some of them even have manual windows right and when there's nothing going on when there's no

[01:06:42]   electronics when it's like a super basic car seats steering wheel four wheels engine it's very easy to work on and repair and replace and whatnot so the the more [@$#%] that gets

[01:06:58]   packed in the more of a nightmare it's going to be to repair so that's not super surprising but I don't know in a perfect world it would it would everything would be easy to repair I

[01:07:12]   don't know Northern Tier says bot has a good video on it on the on the monitor Ro crawler says Bots already done a review I think we're all that's all on review to the in in

[01:07:26]   in reference to the monitor not review in reference Pico free H says missed the giveaway stream can't believe I one one so to get some goodies for me hope things are going all right take care

[01:07:35]   dude thank you man it actually shipped out yesterday so you'll have it before it brother enjoy thank you for joining the patreon that that's what happens when you join

[01:07:45]   my patreon sometimes star Stripes jacket says does the flight controller have blackbox it does none of these HappyModel flight controllers have blackbox which is why

[01:07:59]   we have to sit here and watch the video at 0.25 speed and theorize what's going on Jeremy overes says do you have blackbox data for these and know that exists

[01:08:12]    your black your your Mobula 6 has blackbox Jeremy I didn't think they did that's like the only only thing missing from my Mobula 6es what the [@$#%] Mobula 6 do you have that has blackbox

[01:08:30]   what the hell hold on I did not mean to start GoPro player come on now easy way to tell if you have blackbox is to look up here and so my Mobula 6es do not have

[01:08:47]   blackbox this is what no blackbox looks like where on Earth did you buy a Mobula 6 from that has blackbox because I'm going to buy all of them I don't think the maybe do you have a

[01:09:04]   2024 although I didn't think that had black box either but it's easy to take a look no 2024 also does not have black box the only aios that I know of that are worth well I mean there's only two aios that

[01:09:18]   are worth anything but the the BetaFPV cross style AO but that doesn't have a VTX built in so I don't really like it for analog rigs but let us know which which

[01:09:31]   mobul 6 you've got that that does have blackbox because that's amazing I I I I would kill for blackbox on these things AJ Farah says Bo grinder has the HDs or a screen maybe he'll lend it

[01:09:42]   to you or test all the functions I to be honest I mean I I'm almost po why like it would be pretty silly for HD Z to not just take the boards from the goggles and drop them into the screen

[01:10:02]   and the specs look exactly the same so I don't even need to test it to be honest I I just need to think it through I mean so far I'm pretty sure that I'm going to snag one of those screens and

[01:10:15]   then sell these goggles I can sell the goggles for way more than what those screens cost and for my uses I'll be able to wear the lighter weight goggles I I won't have to retire the fat

[01:10:27]   shark goggles which will feel great and have the screen just wherever the HDMI cable is to go to the the big ass TV screens at the place and away we go so I I I don't

[01:10:43]   even need to test it I'm just going to assume that because why would they wny would they change anything between the the goggles in why would they redesign a board for the for the

[01:10:53]   screen that that doesn't do what these do what I mean so I'm pretty confident in that parkour guy says better late than never how's it going my dude's shitty but it's all good I'll

[01:11:04]   live Martin tanley says I'm just dealing with mental health [@$#%] because that's my life Martin tanley says hi I'm trying to build a 65 MIM whoop having a hard time with ESC with the ESC

[01:11:14]   boards is the new Super X good for both the new EOS system and the whoop VTX light if I decided to switch it up new new EOS system and the whoop what is the whoop VTX

[01:11:30]   light whoop VTX light whoop VTX light what the hell is that whoop light bundle is this what you're talking about Super X Super X X AIO is that what they're calling the the

[01:11:59]   2024 I think it is so nobody really knows this this has not been out long enough for for anybody to have any actual data on whether or not it's good

[01:12:14]    initial Impressions seem okay but after two or three or 400 batteries that's when to me in my opinion an AIO actually becomes good or bad so it I mean it might be it it

[01:12:30]   I if it were me though I would still I would probably go with the BetaFPV cross style AIO because it's a known quantity it's not known to be completely indestructible but it's also

[01:12:44]   not known to die constantly this is a completely unknown quantity and I don't really see much of a there I don't really know anything that well it's got 12 amp fats but you're never going to

[01:12:58]   put Motors on that'll use that so for for me I would go with the BetaFPV cross AIO for what you're looking to do but the Super X might be okay it might be but you're you're you're

[01:13:13]   rolling the dice because they just they haven't been out long enough CMYK says what's up YouTube did the thing limit says I haven't been here here for a while good to see you hope you're your family doing

[01:13:26]   well family's doing great I'm not but I'll be okay Northern Tier says when I type at Teddy he answers what how oh I get it's a joke I'm the worst Kevin Su says the Mobula 6 2024 Eco has

[01:13:45]   blackbox that's very cool so the the space that they saved not having to put a VTX into it they were able to put a chip for blackbox that's very very cool Jeremy says I think

[01:13:58]   it's because we don't have the built-in aiio it adds 16 megabytes flash for blackbox gotcha gotcha gotcha gotcha okay that makes sense Jeremy also says they're

[01:14:16]   still using the Super X HD AO who's they who's they I'm a little confused there okay I'm caught up on chat we talked through the the flight footage stuff let's do some

[01:14:37]   soldering and then we will wrap up so so it's 8:20 so is so Joshua is is apparently live streaming what's what's he live streaming I don't see it though what the [@$#%] is

[01:15:05]   this what is this weird sponsored thing he is look at that oh he's just doing Q&A oh very cool I guess cuz hey canceled on Monday sweet all right so we're gonna solder

[01:15:25]   these guys up and along the way hopefully you guys can learn a little something about soldin this is one of my freestyle Glide builds I absolutely love race wires these are hold on it's all blurry

[01:15:49]   because Logitech sucks the big one hold on here we go should clear up in a second hopefully there it goes all right cool all right there it is so you're going to see in a minute why one of the

[01:16:21]   reasons that I absolutely love these the other reason that I love these is that these this area of the arm is where the prop strikes happen and you can hit these things like a hundred times with a

[01:16:35]   propeller before you kill them whereas if you just have bare wires here you're going to cut those bare wires and then bad things happen so these things are awesome for durability but

[01:16:46]   also for motor changes which you're going to see in a minute instead of at this point that I want to change Motors instead of having to pull the top plate off or like sit here and

[01:16:59]   struggle with the battery strap and try to get the soldering iron in here and be all annoyed this all stays this all stays these guys stay all I have to do is hold the motor up here measure the wires out

[01:17:12]   cut and strip the wires and away we go it makes motor swaps infinitely easier and realistically it makes like motor swaps in the field not going to take your entire day and melt your

[01:17:26]   battery strap and just have you losing screws and [@$#%] so I really really really recommend These Arm LEDs pretty much all the resellers sell them so they're they're pretty easy

[01:17:43]   to find one of the things that I like to do is physic is like at you can you can just kind of hold the motor up and just sort of line the holes up and get a good idea and cut it there

[01:17:56]   and you'll probably be pretty damn close but what you can also do is just really quickly bolt one motor down and get the length and then it'll be perfect because if you get this a little bit

[01:18:11]   wrong then the the motor wires are kind of ugly and I don't know for me it just makes sense to really quickly bolt one of these motors down and you don't have to drive the screws in all the way

[01:18:24]   just get it to the point where the motor is exactly in the right spot and then push the motor wires down flat actually what that's not going to work because on this some rigs

[01:18:40]    I'll put these arm LEDs in the exact same spot this is a rig where these would have potentially moved so this might not work all that well but on motor number four push these wires down

[01:18:53]   I do like to give a little bit extra so I'll push the the motor wire down and then hold it up here on the on the race wire and then when I cut it you don't want it don't cut it here because

[01:19:07]   you need more wire to go to the pads right come up here and one of the things I'll do is just like you can just kind of nip one of them and then you can pull them off and cut them flat and I

[01:19:19]   said just give it like the tiniest little bit extra so just nip one of the motor wires and then you can just sort of take it off and cut all three of them straight and you'll be good to

[01:19:31]   go so it's a tiny little tip there there we go so we left that little Mark in it hold these completely straight and then come in here line up with the mark and now those are the exact right

[01:19:55]   length for motor number four save these These are great wires to have at some point you might mangle your your leads between the the ESC and the race wire and these are the perfect things to

[01:20:07]   replace them with so definitely hold on to these I have stacks and Stacks and stacks of these so I I shipped these out in a lot of the giveaways so now you need to strip and Tin the motors

[01:20:20]   this is a good time to turn on your soldering iron so that it's ready to go hold the wires here don't just go yank it on these wires hold them here so that you're not pulling in in here in

[01:20:31]   this shrink wrap it goes from multi stranded wire to single strand copper so if you just go yanking on these you can potentially rip these wires off and you've just destroyed the Stater base so

[01:20:46]   make sure that you grab and pinch these wires here and then the way that I like to strip these to make sure that I don't Nick any of the internal metal is to just use my my fingernails and you

[01:20:56]   don't have to strip much off just come in here give a little pinch and then yank it off and you've now got full strands of wire you haven't nicked or damaged any of the inner strands of wire

[01:21:12]   because your fingernails are not as hard as the metal wire and it's also quick and easy to do it right and doing this on the bench you're going to get used to doing it if

[01:21:22]   you have to do it out in the wild you're not even going to have to think about it so remove the insulation just make sure you pinch good and hard because otherwise you're you're

[01:21:34]   going to pull on it and it's just it's not great with the big motors it's fine but with little Motors you can you can pull the silicone out just straighten these guys out you kind of

[01:21:44]   flatten them a little bit when you're when you're pinching really hard just try to round them back out here no big deal you're going to flatten them out when you push them to the pads

[01:21:53]   anyway and all right hold on all right so now we've got the bare wires exposed separate them a little bit because the next step is to Tin them I'm just going to use the actually no so

[01:22:10]   there's a version two of the soldering goop coming out and they're going to send me some of it which will be pretty cool so look out for that I'm excited by that this is mass adhesive

[01:22:22]   electronic goop it's basically just blue fun Tac but it's been designed to not absorb heat and it also doesn't get all melty and liquidy and goopy and disgusting when you get it really hot

[01:22:35]   it's really good stuff and I said there's a version two coming for so stay tuned for that it's perfect it gives the motor some nice height here so that you can just stick it in there it's

[01:22:44]   going to stay where it is and then you've got room to get the tip of your soldering iron under these wires which is what you want because what you want to do is push the solder down from above

[01:22:55]   so take your little roll of solder here pull a little bit of it out use it as your little handle and what you're going to do is put the heat Source below always move the work don't

[01:23:07]   move yourself to the work move the work so that you can comfortably work on it rather than contorting yourself in ridiculous directions just take it and rotate it so that it's correctly in

[01:23:20]   front of you here and you're going to put the soldering iron below the wire at this point if you're a beginner what you want to do is take your flux this is this is how I really like flux is in

[01:23:30]   these big syringes you can get them all over Amazon and as a beginner one of the best things you can possibly do is just flux everything and so just put a little tiny bit of flux on the end of

[01:23:42]   each wire and that's going to really help with heat transfer it's going to help everything stay nice and clean and so now you're going to put the tip of the soldering iron below if you'd like

[01:23:52]   again as a beginner best practices are going to be to put a little bit of solder on the tip so that it's smoking the smoke is the flux burning off the wire goes down below and then you push

[01:24:03]   the solder in from above and what you're trying to do is push solder in between all of the individual strands of wire we're going to go to this camera so that I can hopefully give you an even better

[01:24:15]   view of what we just did there and that's it that that is tinning wires it is very important to Tin wires what you're trying to do is get a bunch of solder on the end of The

[01:24:27]   Wire so that you don't have to add it in the next step so come in below we've now got a nice little ball of solder here there's no smoke so there's no flux but that's okay we flux the wire put it in

[01:24:38]   from the bottom and then push the solder in between the strands from the top as long as it's smoking that means there's still flux that's a good thing and then the last one

[01:24:49]   here heat down below push the solder in from above and you'll see there it is you'll see when it melts you'll get some bubbling and then it'll chill out and just let

[01:25:00]   them sit let them sit there and cool on their own don't blow on them don't do anything and now these wires are properly tinned so what we've done is we've put a bunch of solder in between

[01:25:11]   the strands of wires and then we've also got like an external coating of solder so now when you go to solder this up to the to the pads you don't have to try to have three hands right like at this

[01:25:25]   point all you need to do is put these W these wires down in the pads you're also gonna you're also going to Tin the pads pre-tin the pads which builds up a little blob of solder there so you've

[01:25:36]   got enough solder here and there where all you have to do is with your left hand hold it in place and with your right hand bring the heat in and that's it you don't have to try to like balance

[01:25:48]   this on like some stupid helping hand and then come in here and add more solder with the soldering iron and then oh God forbid it moves and it's not like no no no no no no you add solder to the

[01:26:00]   pad you add solder to the wire and then you join them you don't try to do it all at once trying to do it all at once is the biggest mistake that people make when soldering and it you'll never get a

[01:26:12]   good joint and you'll never like have a good time soldering you'll never be able to do this quickly it'll always be a nightmare this is a super fundamental thing that so many people that have been

[01:26:23]   in this hobby for ridiculous long time don't know and it just blows my mind and they're they're the people that hate soldering like if if you follow the fundamentals soldering is not

[01:26:34]   that bad it really isn't right now what I'm doing is just pulling back the installation a little bit on these wires so now again separate the wires so that you have room to

[01:26:46]   work get this roughly where you want it you can either use tweezers to hold the wire in place your all your left hand is doing is holding the wire in place if I put this camera over

[01:27:04]   here maybe I can having a camera in the way makes this so much more difficult when I solder not on the stream my God it is so much easier the other thing I'm going to do is put magnification on

[01:27:20]   my head even with these big wires seeing what you're doing is super important these stupid things will cost you like 15 bucks these have helped the quality of my work more than anything

[01:27:36]   that I've ever done using these and being able to see what the hell I'm doing has made such a difference in like not hating working on these quads as much cuz I can actually see with like 2 and 1

[01:27:50]   12x or 3x or whatever the hell it is magnification and I have really good Vision I still have like 2020 Vision I think but just having a little bit of magnification because everything we do

[01:28:02]   is relatively small makes a massive difference so again tweezers are super helpful it's going to prevent you from getting burned it's also going to let you kind of

[01:28:17]   get closer to the tip what I tend to do though is not use magnet ification on the first one on the first one what I'll do is I'll just hold the damn

[01:28:29]   thing brace my hand against the desk because the desk ain't going to move right so we've got solid points of contact here what I don't want to do is hold it like this holding it like this

[01:28:44]   my shoulder is doing all the work right my shoulder is holding my entire arm up in the air and go figure I'm going to be a vibrating mess because my my shoulder has to hold my entire arm up

[01:28:58]   right put your all the almost all the time you're going to put your wrist down and then you can also even put your fingers down a lot of the times the the shorter the distance between the end of

[01:29:11]   the wire and the last point of physical contact the shorter that distance the less shaking that you're going to get so in this case and you're going to you want to hold the motor flat don't hold

[01:29:25]   the motor sideways like this cuz then you're going to solder the wire on and then twist it and the wire is going to be all weird and twist it up you don't want that hold the motor flat and again

[01:29:35]   I'm only going to do this on the very first one the next one's I'm going to use with the with the tweezers and you might not want to do this first one by hand you might want to do it with

[01:29:44]   tweezers but for me I find it quicker and easier to do this first one by hand and so we've got solder here well I I might not have quite enough solder on this pad we'll pretend like this is a

[01:29:58]   brand new race wire and we're going to Tin this pad and so all you got to do is put the tip of the iron on the back of the pad and then push wire push solder into the front and now you've got

[01:30:10]   a nice solder ball this one has plenty this one actually literally does not have enough so we'll add a little bit and that's it so now these pads have enough solder on them where again we

[01:30:21]   don't have to add any extra so now we're going to come in with the wire we want to get the wire exactly in the right spot where the the insulation is hanging off the

[01:30:31]   back just we want just the strands to be up on the pad and then the insulation will hang off the back if you push this too far forward the insulation is going to be on the pad and then the

[01:30:45]   the wire is going to end up at an angle like this you don't want that you want the individual strands to lay as flat as possible on the pad itself self and in order to do that you have to hang the

[01:30:56]   insulation off so you get it exactly in the right position ah one more tip is to add more flux flux at all friends there is no such thing as too much flux unless you're using a tiny little motor and

[01:31:12]   you're getting flux all over the the bearing but that's a pretty fringe case so add more flux to the pads add a little bit more flux to the wires this is going to make your life so much

[01:31:23]   EAS easier the amount of time that it spends you to add flux will be drastically offset by the number of times that you have to rework this and the frustration that comes from

[01:31:34]   reworking it and when you rework it's bad for it you want to put as little heat into this as possible so the more prep the better so we get this perfectly in position before we bring the heat in

[01:31:47]   we make sure that we're solid and I'm going to shut up so I stop shaking that's all there is to it my friends that's the pace that's the amount of time that you want to let it cool you

[01:32:05]   don't blow on it you just stare at it and you watch as it cools itself down now at this point it's kind it's almost impossible to get this next one over right like I couldn't I I I literally

[01:32:17]   can't do this by hand now so now's when you need to bring the tweezers in have two sets of tweezers have a set of tweezers that are kind of blunt like this but then also have one or two

[01:32:29]   really sharp sets of tweezers the sharp sets of tweezers come in really handy with stuff like this where you've got wires right next to each other so now you're going to grab this next wire all

[01:32:41]   the way down at the tip where they're nice and sharp give them a good pinch bring it in where you need it and do it again not quite perfect just right one of the other tips

[01:33:06]   that I just forgot is that when you grab the wire you can push these down against the carbon fiber and then regrab the wire and now there will be zero vibration see how solid that is versus

[01:33:21]   look at look up here there's a little bit of movement so I'm actually going to re n that one's fine I was still enough on this one I'm going to do it perfectly though so you

[01:33:31]   bring it up I'm going to have to rotate the motor a little bit so that this wire becomes long enough the motor was sitting off to the left so now the motor is straight now the wire is long enough

[01:33:41]   we're going to grab the wire get it into position and then I'm going to push the tweezers down against the carbon but actually what I'm going to do is not push them all the way down this w is going to move

[01:33:55]   down when when the solder liquefies so you don't want the tips of the tweezers all the way down against the carbon quite yet so you want to bring this in get it to melt and now you can kind of

[01:34:09]   release and then push down against the carbon and regrab it and now when it's cooling there's zero motion that's also why I stopped talking is so that while it was cooling

[01:34:23]    there was as little motion as possible and now the most important step is checking your work with the nerd goggles you can you can do that but these are only like 2 and 1/2x

[01:34:35]   magnification what you really want is a 5x Loop to check your whoop check your work Jesus so get this out of the way get your face down here nice and close and make sure that they're not

[01:34:51]   bridging make sure there's not any weird and you're good to go if you fluxed if you followed the fundamentals you'll almost always be fine but never assume always check your work always get in

[01:35:04]   there and look at it with 5x magnification you'll see stuff that you've never seen before with it's really makes a big deal that's like a nine out of 10 there there's there's a little tiny bit

[01:35:16]   of extra solder on the third joint the first one is is pretty much perfect the other ones are are pretty close we don't we don't really need them to be absolutely perfect this is

[01:35:35]   like they're there you can take twice as much time and get them a little bit better but we break these motors pretty frequently and so it this does not have to last for a lifetime this has to last

[01:35:50]   6 months until we decide we we wreck this motor or six days days in my case a lot of times but you want it to be good enough that the damn thing doesn't fall off and hit somebody in the head

[01:36:00]   right and so now I I I left a little bit too much length on these motors you can see the back of the motor is is pretty offset but what's nice about these led race wires is you can mount

[01:36:14]   them in a way that that you have a little bit of wiggle room here so we should actually be fine let me get this bolted down and I'll show you what I mean I I just I cut this motor ever so

[01:36:24]   slightly too long it's not the end of the world at all you could make an argument that you want to do that anyway in case you need to rework it and cut the wires a little bit

[01:36:34]   shorter it's always going to be better to cut them a little bit too long then a little bit too short right although that is one of the nice things about the race wires

[01:36:45]   is that you have some wiggle room right like if you cut the motor wire if if you direct solder the motor to the ESC and you cut the wires too short you're done you can't move the ESC these led race

[01:36:56]   wires or just race wires in general you can always move them forward or backwards a little bit as long as the wires between them and the ESC aren't too short right but that's one

[01:37:07]   of the nice things so you see we've got just a little bit of a little bit of a kind of Kink here totally fine it's looks like hell which drives me nuts but functionally you could make the

[01:37:20]   argument that it's actually better to kind of have that the next one I will not cut too long I can promise you cuz that drives me insane but nothing wrong with it this is not

[01:37:31]   going to get prop this is not going to get any prop strikes right like you're never going to bend the propeller so much like you would have to break the tip of the propeller off and then you

[01:37:43]   would have to have it bend down in order to hit the wires here so the wires are super protected here the prop strikes are all going to happen out there once you've bet the wire the the

[01:37:55]   the prop this much it's not going to prop strike the wires it's going to prop strike the arm right the the prop strikes happen like right in here right in the middle go figure of the of the

[01:38:07]   the race wire LED that I've put on there and so now you just do it do that whole thing three more times try getting caught up on chat here a little bit

[01:38:24]   Kevin Kevin Su says YouTube ads at the top of the search they're getting aggressive and ridiculous I'll say Jeremy says are are each of those 2x3 chicklet things on the arms the esc's if

[01:38:35]   so now I finally get why they call the others four in one we so we've already kind of answered this but no these are just LEDs these are arm arm LEDs the you always want to run a 4

[01:38:47]   in one ESC esc's are very heavy when when we used to have ES C's out on the arms there was a serious lack of performance from the weight that you've added to the arms also prop strikes

[01:39:01]   would hit the really sensitive bits on the on the ESC and break them so arm LEDs suck going to four in ones we gained a lot of performance and a lot of reliability and I know

[01:39:13]   there's a couple of companies that still sell arm LEDs but you don't want to do them in most cases you want you want foreign ones for sure I run three screws per per motor to

[01:39:27]   try to save as much weight as possible I've been doing this for many many years and I've yet to have a situation where it's bitten me in the ass but it is important which three screws you run

[01:39:41]   you always want to run the two outside screws and then you want to run the forward screw this is the camera here so you want to run this screw here think about all the collisions that are going

[01:39:55]   to happen you're going to this thing is going to bang in the front end like this and then it's going to bang sideways it's never really going to hit in here like how the hell would you get it to

[01:40:06]   hit in here I guess if you ya it around and there was a pole or something but it's just not going to happen so you want to run the outsides always and then the front and then in the rear

[01:40:20]   it's the same kind of deal you want to run the out sides and then this rear because you can potentially back this into something here I mean I I guess you could argue that if you were rotating

[01:40:34]   perfectly and there was a pole you could kind of like wrap into the pole realistically it's going to hit here if if you're rotating it's going to smack there and that that outer screw is going

[01:40:46]   to give you plenty of strength so boom boom boom is is what you want on the rear in my opinion the front is easy the front isn't is an easy decision this one and then the two outsides if

[01:40:58]   you're worried about it run four in the rear three in the front and then I also only run the TPU arm guards in the front and the weight of the TPU arm guard will get offset by the weight of

[01:41:14]   the fourth screw in the back and you'll potentially have a more balanced thing but [@$#%] that run three in the front three in the back TPU arm guards in the front and profit my

[01:41:27]   friends RAM Dango says 8s balance lead wouldn't go a Miss good length for the charges what do you mean I'm confused by that Ram start Stripes jacket says I started using mr30

[01:41:44]   connectors for my Motors last year when I was testing a bunch of 5-in Motors to see what I liked so nice being able to pop a new motor on in the field there's there's a lot of people

[01:41:53]   running the mr30 is and I haven't really heard many complaints about them which is super interesting I really like these arm LEDs I love having LEDs on the arms here for a lot of different reasons

[01:42:05]   so I won't do the mr30 thing but I I've I don't know have you guys heard anybody bitching about them failing I I've not that that was the reason that we didn't run them for the longest time

[01:42:17]   those have been out forever but it's I know there's a lot of people running them now you can finally like buy motors with them already on I know that was one of the other big Hang-Ups is that

[01:42:35]   like they're kind of a pain in the ass they're a pain in the ass they're they're timec consuming they're a pain in the ass they're harder to install than these CU it's like an xt60

[01:42:44]   or an XT30 where it's got that cup and if you got to plug the male into the female otherwise the pins will bend and it's just just these are easy man it's just a flat solder job

[01:42:56]   put it on there bang just like you just saw but now that you can get some motors with them man that makes life easy you just have to deal with it one time just like with these and then

[01:43:07]   plug them in and Away you go really really really cool stuff I just I I love the way that these look so much and if if I'm flying at night for a gig my rig has

[01:43:20]   to be visible for whatever the hell it is 1.2 gigawatt statute miles and these these serve that purpose these are very bright so they kind of kill two birds so to speak I am going to do

[01:43:35]   the The Lazy method here and just kind of line it up we'll do one more for you guys to see and all right so that's looking about right let me just double check it

[01:43:56]   all right good there hold it here and then put a little Mark get this out of here pull these straight use that Mark as a guide and there we go what else is happening in the chat

[01:44:20]   SE straight parkour guy says please help I had a perfect flying Mobula 6802 30,000 KV and after switching from Crocker frame to both 2024 mobula 6 and Crown frame fly away and weird weird Shake on

[01:44:34]   Discord change the frame back to the frame that works or [@$#%] your pids and get a worse flying quad that's a simple one man the Cockroach frame is awesome and the the Mobula 6

[01:44:51]   2024 frame is lighter and with lightness you get a decrease in stiffness and then the the crown frame it weighs basically the same but it's just not as stiff of a frame so if you want to

[01:45:08]   keep the flight performance that you previously had you're going to have to go back to the other frame if you're willing to take a hit in flight performance you can decrease your pids

[01:45:18]   to make it work with the more floppy frames but I would not recommend that I've found the the Cockroach frame to be the best for this reason and other reasons as well so man that's a

[01:45:29]   simple one all right cool always make sure that you pinch these hard enough when when you don't pinch hard enough and then You Yank it really sucks it pulls the it pulls the silicone up over

[01:45:45]   the up over the end of The Wire which is just a pain in the ass and then this is the other step that I I guess I kind of missed it's just using your fingernail to pull the the silicone

[01:45:57]   insulation down a little bit sorry you guys couldn't see it I just use my fingernail to just pull this CU When when even though you pinch it good when you pull off it's pulls the insulation

[01:46:07]   up a little bit different Motors will use different wires sometimes the the silicone is more stretchy this stuff on here is not all that stretchy which is why I skipped it the previous time but

[01:46:19]   like sometimes you'll do that and then the silicone will be damn near all the way up at the at the end of it so it's just super easy to go and pull it back

[01:46:28]   down so next step is to 10 and got this here I'm not going to flux solder has a flux core so once you've done this for long enough you don't have to add as much flux as what I was

[01:46:48]   showing you on that first motor but for your first year of soldering do yourself favor and add flux to everything it's going to make your life so much easier so tin the tip of the soldering

[01:47:02]   iron smoke means there's flux soldering iron below the wire push solder up through the top of the wire here's an example of what I mean if IID fluxed it we'd be done

[01:47:19]   already and there we go the flux helps massively with the heat transfer the reason that the flux I'm sorry the reason that the solder won't melt is that there's not enough heat

[01:47:32]   where you're putting it and the flux helps with that quite a bit and it also keeps everything nice and clean the way that I do this without flux is I put this

[01:47:53]   solder you've got the tip of your you got the wire and then you've got the tip of your soldering iron and I'm going to have to show you this another way this is the tip of the soldering

[01:48:05]   iron this is your wire you bring your soldering iron up to the wire and then if you just try to push the solder in the top of the wire the wire takes a second to heat up what you do is you

[01:48:17]   actually put it here you push the solder in in between the wire and the tip of the soldering it hits the soldering iron and it melts immediately and then it flows up onto the wire real quick so to

[01:48:29]   not use flux again the easy button is just to use flux and then you just push it down and it all goes but if you're having trouble with that put the the solder at the angle and then up so you

[01:48:40]   just kind of dab it at an angle and that gets the heat transfer really going and then you can add it on the top that's how you do it without flux but the easy button is to put flux on the wire and

[01:48:52]   then as soon as you bring the soldering up soldering iron up to the wire it hits the flux and bang it gets this nice and warm right away and then you can just immediately push the solder down through

[01:49:01]   the top of the wire and I think this is motor number three that I measured this up for right yep looks about right so first one we're going to do by hand these pads do have

[01:49:18]   enough solder on them but I am going to add flux just a little bit and here we go let me do this with magnification is point down quite a bit why is this camera always crooked I

[01:49:42]   feel like I fixed this camera constantly how is it like always becoming crooked it's very defies all logic oh also make sure you clean the tip of your soldering iron my friends when when you put the

[01:49:55]   soldering iron away don't clean it but when you take it back out put your put your little cleaning thing right next to your whatever where whatever holds your soldering iron and when you take the

[01:50:08]   iron out go right into the cleaner cool that makes a big difference and I'm not going to Tin the tip of the soldering iron this time cuz I have plenty of solder on here but

[01:50:24]   again if you're a beginner do that this first one in place hang the silicone off the end of the pad push down a little bit and away we go this second wire has a big blob of

[01:50:39]   solder on the bottom let's get rid of that that would be too much solder solder always travels towards the heat so all you got to do is bring the tip of the iron in and then sweep it out and

[01:50:51]   you'll take a bunch of the so with you you can go into your solder cleaner and get rid of it and now we're going to have to use the tweezers cuz these wires are so close

[01:51:01]   together grab it again move the work to you move this other wire out of the way see that wire is sitting perfectly there exactly where we want it grab it with the

[01:51:17]   tweezers get it right where you need it then bring the heat in there we go hang the silicone off the edge give it a second to cool last one same deal make sure the wire is

[01:51:42]   exactly where you want it there it is some of the solder okay I know that so this this wire ended up kind of sitting up on the pad and it's not sitting totally flat so we're going to

[01:52:04]   do what's called reworking it when you rework it's a great time to add a little bit of flux I think I might actually add a little bit of solder too so there's not quite enough

[01:52:15]   solder on this pad which is why it happens so we just added a little bit of flux your little spoolie boy here is really nice because you can set it right on the desk and then

[01:52:30]   pick a little bit of it up and then come onto the pad with it so we're going to grab the wire first here all right get a good grip on it and then pick up a little bit of solder over

[01:52:50]   here all right so here's a really good thing when I'm trying to pick the solder up it's making a ball it's and it's not sticking to the tip of the iron that's because the tip of the iron is dirty and

[01:53:03]   oxidized you need to clean it if the solder is ever not sticking to the tip of the iron it means the tip of your iron is dirty you need to clean and it and it starts to get dirty the second that you

[01:53:16]   stop cleaning it so stop cleaning it pick the solder up get the wire where you need it and now that it's a clean soldering iron tip the solder will actually stick to it

[01:53:28]   and I can pick it up and put it onto this pad and now we're good to go now I was holding the wire properly what happened is I was holding the wire like this this is the pad I was holding the wire like

[01:53:45]   this and I got a little sloppy and I dropped my hand down and the wire cooled sitting up and you don't want that you want the wire to be completely flat on the pad with the silicone

[01:53:56]   hanging off here so that's the kind of thing that you're looking for that's the kind of thing that you'll see with the 5x Loop that you might not see with your regular eyeballs so let's take it closer

[01:54:08]   look at these and they're looking really good you can also kind of look at them sideways to make sure that that's not happening to make sure that they're coming straight off the pad you

[01:54:21]   don't want any kind of angle up or down that's going to give you a worse contact patch between the two and now in theory I cut these a little bit better now I cut this one a little bit too long

[01:54:31]   again but again that's okay always better to cut it a little bit long than a little bit too short oh and this is ever just the tiniest little bit too long this one's definitely better than

[01:54:44]   the one a minute ago so throw our screws in and again rear so we're going to go two outer and then the one rear here and these are 2.5 millimeter screws I like using the the

[01:55:02]   big socket CED 2.5 mil screws on the ends of the arms because they get a lot of abuse as you can see by how chewed up they are these will not strip as frequently there we go it's hard to like

[01:55:23]   show you guys what I'm doing but also be able to see what the hell I'm doing ideally you also want these locked you want to Loctite these mine have dried Loctite on them from

[01:55:36]   previously having done it these motor screws will absolutely back themselves out so make sure you be lock tight them you only have to lock item like once or twice and then they'll have

[01:55:48]   enough of the residue on it where they won't back out anymore and there you go if you don't fly backwards ever maybe do this screw but don't back there I think is is the way to

[01:56:04]   go and you can see it's just a little bit less of a thing but still kind of a thing but again I can always push these forward if it really drives me insane and that's it my friends I'm not

[01:56:18]   going to do all four it's 901 already go get you some bot grinder let me get caught up on chat and then we will part ways for the evening anybody learn

[01:56:28]   anything say yes if you learn something it make me feel better little bit I'm excited to try these motors no real reason to spin them up in BetaFlight either you're not going to learn

[01:56:41]   anything all all Motors are are well balanced out of the box it's fine where we at Northern Tier says thanks to you I mastered soldering love that brother limits 20 says why don't you

[01:56:59]   mount the motor and then solder the wires I like the ability to move the motor around a little bit so that I can get the wire in the perfect spot once the motor is mounted so so you

[01:57:10]   saw those wires were a little bit too long so if I mounted the W if ID mounted the motor the wire would have been a little bit too long I would have had to have been pulling back on the wire and

[01:57:21]   that just like the wire is pushing forward and it's annoying and it's slipping in the tweezers and it's just it's if you cut the motor wires absolutely perfect or if your race wire

[01:57:33]   LEDs are not double-sided taped down then it's fine but once they're taped down I leave the motor loose so that I can move the motor left and right like you solder that first Wire by hand

[01:57:46]   that's quick and easy and great and then the other two wires sometimes you have to like move the M like this to make those two wires longer or shorter and that way you're not having to like

[01:57:57]   death grip it with your tweezers you can lightly grab it with your tweezers move the motor into the point where that wire is the exact right length and then all you have to do with the tweezers is pull

[01:58:07]   the motor wire down to be flat on the pad that's always worked best for me ramdo says IPA 170 in a spray tin helps wash your work very true alcohol gets

[01:58:23]    the flux off if if I was worried about this thing lasting forever so in the flux I don't know if it does anymore but old flux had acid in it I think the new flux does have acid in it if I was

[01:58:37]   building this to live for 10 15 years I would when I was done with all this I would take a toothbrush and this little guy and it's got a little pump built in and it'll just pump the alcohol

[01:58:52]   all over your hands and I would pick up a little bit of some of the toothbrush and then rub all of that flux off of there sometimes I'll do that because the flux is kind of

[01:59:04]   yellow and so if if I'm going to take pictures of a rig I I will do this to get it looking better but usually I don't because if if I get six months out of this I I consider myself very

[01:59:17]   lucky like I'm not none of these builds are going to last forever 10 years from now we're not going to be using Motors that are anything like these we're going to be they're

[01:59:26]   going to be way higher performance whatever blah blah blah but technically speaking yes if you want to follow EV every single if you want to do it perfectly once you're done

[01:59:37]   all the soldering toothbrush IPA alcohol scrub it down get all that flux off it'll look a little bit better and it'll get the the acid off star Stripes jacket says a plus side job

[01:59:50]   thank you dude YouTube just did the thing scrolling back up county FPV says I'm new to the I'm new to soldering and have a tip that won't take solder except on one spot and

[02:00:07]   that spot is goldish in color is that tip no good or fixable clean the [@$#%] out of the tip get get it crank the the the heat up get a the the cleaner that you want there's two ways to clean

[02:00:21]   the tip of the side soldering iron I prefer this you can get these for like $3 on Amazon but you can also try soldering sponges this is sort of a more old school way of doing it that it's

[02:00:32]   just a sponge and then you get it wet not too wet but pretty wet for you for that tip use this and then get a sponge and try both with the sponge you want it to smoke you're going to dry

[02:00:43]   you're going to like pull it across it and then twist it and pull it across it and twist it and pull it across it to try to bring that tip back to life but this is I I really

[02:00:55]   prefer this so for that tip try the tips do just die though that the if if they can get to a point where they're too oxidized and they're just shot they're pretty cheap so maybe just say the

[02:01:08]   hell with it and replace the tip but you can try to just clean the living hell out of it when I tell you guys to not clean the tip before you put it back into the solder stand that is so

[02:01:21]   so that you leave a layer of solder on the tip and that protects the tip when you turn it off and let it sit so best practices are to finish working put the soldering iron into this the stand

[02:01:37]   leave it if you turn it off that's fine every time you take it out of the stand though put it right into the cleaner and then bring it to your work that's the the cycle that you want you want work to

[02:01:50]   stand stand to cleaner cleaner to work that's the the triangle you don't want to go from the work to the cleaner to the stand there's no reason to do that it's harder on the tip than it

[02:02:01]   needs to be Martin tayy says is there any go-to protocols for preserving whoop batteries and Motors pretty much the same as the rest of FPV there's there's nothing unique

[02:02:16]   about whoops don't over discharge the batteries don't charge them too quickly and then Motors don't crash but crash it's worth it there crashes are what kill

[02:02:35]   Motors so that there's that's kind of it BL says half the half the carbon is missing on the ends I crash a lot but you should too it's fun Kevin Su says I ran mr30 for a while

[02:02:53]   switched to arm LEDs about a year ago or so I'd run mr30 if racing it's faster between Heats there there's certain situations where mr3s are amazing timman

[02:03:04]   says could there be much of a performance difference with the higher power 75 MIM Motors by direct soldering them could work better with a higher amp draw so we talked about that last

[02:03:15]   week or so somebody had messaged me on Facebook and said that with 102 Motors you have to direct solder them there's way too much loss with the with the plugs so I am going to try that

[02:03:30]   at some point here I have done it before I've done it twice I've done direct soldered versus motor plugs it was many years ago and it was with smaller 65mm tiny whoops so that is

[02:03:42]   something that we're going to test maybe not next week maybe the week after or the week after that at some point that that is going to get tested I hope that that's not the case but you

[02:03:53]   never know RAM Dango says which which type of Loctite for shaft to prop any thoughts there are quite a few are you talking about okay shaft spinning on the TR shaft spinning on the prop tried a

[02:04:12]   little nerling so if you're on Tiny whoop Motors if you have the very common problem of the motor shaft letting go from the motor Bell replace the motor but if while you're waiting

[02:04:27]   for your replacement motors to come it is locktite I have a bottle of it but it's in the garage there's a there's a patreon post about it let me find it real

[02:04:44]   quick search posts lock tight nope red what if I search for slipping shaft God damn it somebody has probably already typed it into the chat there it is Loctite 620 thank you BL Loctite 620 that doesn't

[02:05:37]   sound familiar though 620 hold on let me just double check 638 you're close Loctite 638 it's specifically called retaining compound Loctite 638 at some point I will actually fix my

[02:06:11]   my video descriptions and I'll put it in there but Loctite 638 that's what you want Kevin sum says no clean flux doesn't eat the material the regular stuff does that's why no clean

[02:06:21]   is important for electronics is this am I using no clean it doesn't say no clean on it 37% lead you're just going to tell me the lead content not what else is in

[02:06:48]   it is all this stuff no clean all the stuff that buy might be no clean I'm not totally sure but the long and short of it in my opinion is that this shit's all going to explode long before the any

[02:07:03]   acid in the in the solder eats it and if it's not crash moredirty desert drone says I saw the acrob elrs was taken down off the site that stinks have you heard anything about

[02:07:15]   a new version coming out I've not but I I wouldn't think they would pull it down before the new I I I I thought they would wait I would think they would wait BL says so is 620 so 620 is also

[02:07:29]   retaining compound they're probably very similar Northern Tier says 420 is better all right caught up on chat Connor shrope didn't tag me but I just happened to see his comment he says just

[02:07:43]   saw the title are the watch M wers any good I was about to get some 2207 1860 I've heard from people that I trust and the testing that Rosser has done shows that the WASP majors are

[02:07:57]   actually really good the one thing I really wanted to do today that I almost forgot to do is weigh the damn things compared to my long-term favorite motor which is the t-motor F40 Pro 4

[02:08:10]   which they have very unkindly discontinued on me so let's do that real quick here let me just make sure I want to cut these wires down to the same length but I don't want to cut them too short H

[02:08:33]   whatever it looks it's going to be a little bit too short but I will do it for science and I always buy and you should too never ever ever buy four Motors always buy five Motors the fifth

[02:08:47]   motor you're basically buying an extra Bell the Bell is what you will k kill so I don't have a problem cutting one of these Staters too short because I'm pretty much never going to use this

[02:08:57]   fifth Stater I'm only ever going to use this fifth motor Bell so let me just make sure these are lined up perfect so I get the exact same amount of motor wire on one versus the other there we

[02:09:17]   go all right cool and let's just check it yep that's the exact same amount all right cool so let's see I mean we didn't really talk about the motor sizing but the the WASP

[02:09:35]   majors are 20 basically 22 and A2 it's actually 22.6 but 222 by 6 and2 I prefer 23 I've always run not always but I've settled on 23 06 Motors so the WASP majors are 222 versus 23 so they're

[02:09:57]   a little bit more narrow but then instead of 6 mm tall they're 6 and 1 12 millim tall so little bit less mechanical torque from them being not as wide and they're also going to get a

[02:10:09]   little bit hotter from them not being so wide but then the extra half a m of height is going to probably make more power almost certainly is going to make more power

[02:10:21]   I don't necessarily want the extra power but the the more narrow Bell pulls the heavy ass magnets in so there's less moment of inertia so they will potentially spin up speed up and speed

[02:10:38]   down faster t-motor F40 pro4 my favorite motor of all time with short wires 28.3 grams wasp major with short motor short wires damn it 29.95 30 on 30 grams right on the nose Jesus

[02:10:58]   these are heavy but 30 grams is my limit like I I I I will only run Motors that are less than 30 gram which is nice because there aren't many so it really limits my choices man that is a lot heavier I I I

[02:11:15]   I thought they would be lighter than that the F40 Pro 4S are just really light to be honest is what's going on here 20 28.3 versus 30 damn oh well they'll make more power

[02:11:32]   and all together it's only adding six point something gram sixish grams not the end of the world but I don't know we'll see weight on the ends of the arms has to move

[02:11:52]   every every single input that you give pitch roll yaw the the weight on the ends of the arms has to move quite a bit so even adding like a gram or a gram and a half or two grams to the ends of the

[02:12:03]   arms I can really feel the difference in the in the momentum so in theory though these motors will make enough extra power to offset that the problem is they don't make any

[02:12:19]   extra braking so so in terms of the motor that's breaking down it's going to have the same effect and then the other motor on the other side is going to have to work harder so the heavier the ends

[02:12:30]   of the arms are the more the the lighter the ends of the arms are the more of like a barrel roll that you can basically get versus as the armends get heavier the the breaking is

[02:12:47]   not more effective so they just have to make more thrust so instead of like a dead rotation it's going to do this and I don't I don't like when the quads do that the tiny whoops do that

[02:12:58]   and I have to really fly around it my my Glide setups like when you chop the throttle and you add roll the damn thing does not shift at all it just keeps going dead straight and it's just

[02:13:10]   amazing when they start to do this if you've got a gap lined up that you want to split s into you have to set up over here and then you have to like guess how much it's going to jump up over into the

[02:13:22]   Gap whereas nice light arm ends on a nice light quad you can just drive right at the [@$#%] thing and dump straight into it's not perfect but it's does it a lot less there's a there

[02:13:34]   are a couple of Dives in downtown Atlanta where they're really really really narrow and even on these even on my Glides I have to offset a little bit and then it and then it pushes up into

[02:13:44]   it I don't want it to be any worse than it already is kind of nitpicky but when you've flown for over eight years you become nitpicky because you start to notice all these little subtle things but

[02:14:00]   weight on the ends of the arms is the bad Connor strope says have you thought about posting videos I have I've thousands he says I love your content but it can be so hard to find stuff

[02:14:11]   sifting through live streams oh okay so as an example Joshua has to pay its blunty almost a full-time working wage to do what you're talking about I can barely pay

[02:14:30]   myself a part-time wage so it's just it's just not going to happen stav actually was was cool enough to grab a live stream and chop it up for me but I haven't even been able

[02:14:45]   to find the time to make the thumbnails and to organize it and write the the description and whatnot doing FPV full-time is absolutely brutal unless like you've come from money or were

[02:15:03]   one of like the original like 10 guys that hit's really early and get and got hundreds of thousands of subscribers doing what what I'm doing here is more difficult than and

[02:15:16]   timec consuming than you could possibly imagine and exactly what I'm doing and I have been doing is like I'm just completely maxed you're you're looking at like 50 to 60 hours a

[02:15:32]   week every single week so unfortunately like adding anything to this it's just doesn't exist like I I already only get like four or five hours of sleep a night and neglect things

[02:15:45]   that I shouldn't neglect but it is what it is I I hopefully this will continue to build and it can turn into something that's a little bit more comfortable but what you're talking

[02:15:55]   about there is 30 plus hours of week 30 plus additional hours of work a week every week luckily though Apache smoke wounded sniper wres descriptions and time codes for all of

[02:16:11]   these live streams so it really isn't hard to find stuff in these live streams anymore I will change your life here if you go to anybody's Channel like my

[02:16:23]   own YouTube has damn near hidden this little magnifying glass here if you click on this magnifying glass it will allow you to search just within that person's channel so what's something

[02:16:38]   very specific that we can look for so if you were looking for feedback on 0702 36,000 KV Motors you can just search for that and it'll give you every single one of these

[02:16:57]   videos it's will search the title it will also search the description so it'll give you all of the the live streams where I've talked about them and so you can then click through and it's

[02:17:10]   inside of this stream and then here in the in the what look at me go wow 5,000 views that's a lot and then in here you've got all these individual descriptions I mean if you really want

[02:17:22]   to speed it up you can just do a quick crlf and search for 36,000 and it won't work wny is it not 36 huh maybe the fine doesn't work you might have to do a little bit of oh

[02:17:40]   okay it's because it's 36 dot Apache smoke did a DOT instead of a comma so that might trip you but 36.00 Bang there it goes lights it up for you and then you'll also see it in

[02:17:57]    Apache smokes comment here he's got so I I have to chop his his descriptions down a little bit because the description field is limited to 5,000 characters so I go through and chop

[02:18:10]   a bunch of it out here but Apache smoke has longer descriptions which might help you out but it's all there for a brother thanks for hanging my friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me

[02:18:26]   seot go to the website click all the buttons sorry that I'm struggling so bad tonight for everybody that stayed thank you for for hanging with me it's means an awful lot that you guys are

[02:18:38]   willing to watch me when I'm in absolute [@$#%] despair because I know that it's hard and I know that it's these live streams are not the best but I figure that it's better for me to show up

[02:18:52]   and give you guys something rather than to just say like I I can't do it and just wallow in my own self-pity all night so thank you guys I I appreciate you bearing with me

[02:19:05]   and sticking around like I said it means a lot so it is mental health May if any of this looks familiar to you I've got a text Channel channel on the Discord called FPV therapy with lots of

[02:19:23]   good stuff I've also got a Facebook group called FPV therapy these are not spots for you to post flying or any of that these are spots for folks that have mental illness [@$#%] or folks that

[02:19:36]   have people in their lives with mental illness illness stuff to learn about it be able to recognize it and react to it in a way that's actually going to help that person because you

[02:19:48]   know things like saying to that person you've got a pretty great life don't be so sad that is the worst possible thing that you can say to someone you think that you're helping but you are the

[02:20:00]   10,000th person that has said that and the first person that said it's didn't help at all we don't want to have mental illness it's not fun for us and so and we know that we have a a

[02:20:15]   great life and we know that we should not be feeling like this and when point that out it makes it so much worse so for the love of God never ever ever ever say that to somebody it's it's

[02:20:29]   just it's so much better for you to say nothing than than to say that I mean in most cases it's kind of better to just say nothing it's really difficult there is not much that

[02:20:41]   you can say and I say this as someone who has dealt with it for my whole life there's not much that I can figure figure out to say to someone else that's going through it that's going to help

[02:20:54]   them at all right and I have a very specific unique window into it so for those of you that don't have it to try to figure out something to say that's going to actually help it's it's

[02:21:06]   almost actually impossible but showing up for that person and just like being there on the phone with them in the room with them send him a quick text like anything that's what helps but

[02:21:21]   never ever ever try to like cheer them up it is almost always going to make the situation worse just be there just be in their life listen don't necessarily say anything

[02:21:38]   they're not looking for you to say anything there's nothing that you can say that will help it's just it's anxiety and depression like they make you lonely in this really annoying way where like it's

[02:21:52]   just like Soul crushing loneliness but you don't want to be around anyone else but if someone else comes to you it's really really nice and typically you won't tell them to go away sometimes

[02:22:02]   you will but look out for your friends that have it you have friends that are dealing with it that you have no idea when people with mental illness kill themselves so many people come out of

[02:22:19]   the woodwork and say oh my God I had had no idea that that is such a perfect example we hide it because it sucks and because it makes us shitty to be around and we don't want that right so

[02:22:32]    learn something about it if you get any inkling that any of your your people in your life have it just be there for them just be present that's kind of the best thing that you can

[02:22:45]   possibly do but there is a lot that you can learn about it that's out there you just have to look it up healthy gamer G here on YouTube is an incredible resource but FV therapy you'll you'll

[02:22:55]   learn a bunch a bunch of us have put our stories out there and you'll start to be able to kind of recognize it and you can either lose these people in your life eventually or you can show up for

[02:23:05]   them you probably want to show up for them so it just takes a little bit of learning but like I said don't ever ever ever say like the just cheer up believe me if I could

[02:23:17]   I would boy would I love to be able to just cheer up then I wouldn't have depression though so love you guys be good cv.com see you guys Sunday I'm not

[02:23:29]   ready here's the 30,000 KV rig no 30,000 KV rig have a good weekend friends a