

[00:01:21] hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti welcome to allergies 2024 was glad to see not glad but looks like joshu was suffering as well so if you were watching him here's a
[00:01:39] continuation of sniffles and snorting and [@$#%] and SCH slopping we're going to get these two WalkSnail rigs up in the air I think this one's already up in the air but we're going to
[00:01:53] check it this grind arino is not I didn't finish setting up I also want to screw around with these camera mounts that Bob noxious very kindly printed for me they have all different offsets
[00:02:10] these are on thingiverse but so we've got 9.5 offset 7.5 offset oh this is a little chin spoiler thing chin protector thing oh there's a thick and a thin one and then 5.6 off set so
[00:02:30] these the offset refers to where the camera is being placed one of the one of the only issues with the grino frame is the top plate here the design of the top plate having these these angles on
[00:02:45] the edge here going inwards you end up getting a bunch of top if if you run any significant amount of uptilt from what I've seen you get a whole bunch of top plate in
[00:02:56] view so with these we're going to be able to adjust where the camera sits and hopefully move the camera forward enough that the the the top plate is not in view props are going to be in view
[00:03:11] but that's fine you can run like gray props on the front and they'll pretty much disappear the whole top plate and view thing is it would drive me absolutely insane so I'm going to do
[00:03:21] everything that I possibly can to get the top plate out of view as a last resort I will just take a Dremel with a big old wheel and I'll put some angles into the top plate and I
[00:03:34] might even just straight up cut th this whole like just basically cut it to be instead of where it's at now I'll cut it to be hopefully without wrecking the I'll I'll take as much
[00:03:51] material off as I can but I can't take a ton off because then I'll break the the front of the damn thing so I'm going to do everything that possibly can to get that top plate out of view
[00:04:03] because that is a bit of a deal breaker for me if if I can't get that top plate out of view I'll pull it out of this Frame and put it into something else but like I said I'm going to do
[00:04:12] everything that I possibly can to make that happen because this is a great frame super strong three and a half inch I'm going to run 3in props on it but we don't really have many I
[00:04:25] don't think we really have any 3-in frames that are in stock at the moment this Frame also has pretty decent motor protection which I really like nice thick not quite devil horns here
[00:04:38] but this will protect the motors pretty good I've got the xnova 1804s on it I think all I really need to do is put this into BetaFlight bind up man bind up elrs here we
[00:05:00] go again this is insane I'm on as much Claritin as I'm allowed to take and it's just not it's just not helping it is no match this thing I believe is up in the air and it is set up but from
[00:05:24] what I remember it was dropping an arm so we'll take a look at we'll pull this up in ESC configurator and see if I have anything set wrong wow this is ridiculous I
[00:05:41] hate oh all right I'm sorry guys I didn't want to just not live stream because I'm going to miss a ton of streams next next week happy Mother's
[00:06:04] Day to everyone out there this sucks Jesus I'm gonna do my best here hockey rounds is first in the chat Troy pre-log not applicable Robert Rosser aach smoke wounded sniper SOS Death Valley painy
[00:06:25] Minton kilo zebra micro peipe Walter Northern Tier Bob Bruce big Fran slow Cal sticky FPV Smoking Dog Kujo Nathan Otis Rob oxis frojo metal metal dirt skin BL Frank Nicholas eion four little
[00:06:41] pigs if you want the gangly man to struggle to read your name as he sniffs and shits and spits you got to get into the chat early and just say pretty much anything if you want to talk
[00:06:51] directly to me all you got to do is type CiottiFPV in your in your chat message and I will read it and respond oh we'll talk through it aat smoke sber tagged me said gag gag
[00:07:11] it's see what's up everyone I'm sorry guys hang on this been going on all morning man hours [@$#%] God damn it oh God why me okay I should have one to two minutes Rob ax says Ola Captain
[00:08:20] Collective Joe says hello everyone gangly gang Rob axon says please don't hold the motors near the mic when you test them I had earbuds ear buns earbuds and had flashbacks to the dentist's
[00:08:31] office deal free lojo dropping the patreon link thank you dude metal dskin says welcome to the allergy convention getting my face kicked in in by the mirror too Robert
[00:08:47] G Robert G says not Robert G's Robert G says Mobula 6 pyro pre-orders are shipping still waiting on mine very cool as you guys get your Mobula 6 202 24s please let us all know how they are
[00:09:06] in terms of durability I feel like all I've heard is them blowing up within like the first 10 batteries which is weird because mine's been pretty durable and I'm hoping to fly six more batteries on it
[00:09:22] here today to continue beating it but I mean we're like 50 batteries into it probably here on the streams and it's been pretty bulletproof so I don't know what's going on I don't know if like the
[00:09:33] pre- pre-release versions were different or but the the durability is a little suspect on them which is what the main thing that I was worried about unfortunately but very strangely the old
[00:09:47] school Mobula 6 elr's have been popping up in a couple of different stores so also if you see an old school mobula 6 elrs in stock anywhere buy yours first but then come over to
[00:10:03] our Discord there's a link over on cfpv and post it in general chat and we will just buy them out I mean there are people that will buy multiples and then hang on to them and if we need them you
[00:10:14] know we have them in our little Community here so as you see them in stock make sure you buy yours first because the second that you post it on our G on our Discord or in the
[00:10:26] chat they're going to be gone this has happened two or three times now where during the live stream somebody poststhey're in stock in such and such a place I post the link and they're gone
[00:10:36] within like 10 minutes so make sure that you buy your your one or two or three however many you want first 100 bucks for the old so the the the whole you're probably just going to find the whole
[00:10:50] thing if it comes with the 0702 26000 KV Motors what an amazing deal for1 best tiny whoop deal ever because those motors do have enough power even if it only comes with 0802 19,000 first of
[00:11:09] all those Motors are being used by ultimate tiny whoop Racing League I forget the actual name of it but you can almost certainly sell those Motors to someone but even if you can't even if
[00:11:23] you get stuck with the motors and the the frame is garbage the the o 2 19000s are garbage for freestyle but for this spec Racing League that's what they run so it's perfect for those guys but the
[00:11:37] canopy the camera and the AO are unbelievable and a hundred bucks for the most durable tiny whoop AIO of all time maybe ever right like if if People's 224s keep blowing up like this then
[00:11:56] all of my fears have come true so these old school Mobula 6 2g4 is what we call them aios they're it they're the magical unicorn pixie dust they're the only durable truly durable
[00:12:13] tiny whoop AIO with VTX and elrs built-in and motor plugs of all time hopefully HappyModel gets their [@$#%] together or the the 202 24s that we've seen blowing up were just a fluke and
[00:12:29] there's also a plug a motor plugged version of the 2024 AIO coming out at some point so maybe that one will be better but if we see the old school ones we need to snag them and
[00:12:46] a 100 bucks for a truly durable look all of the tiny whoop aios are like 40 or 50 bucks this old school 2g4 one is at least twice as durable as any other one ever built so a hundred bucks for it is
[00:13:03] well worth it because it's going to last at least twice as long I have some that have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of batteries of like hard abuse on them and they just keep going
[00:13:15] so I would pay $200 for a reliable durable Mobula 6 AO just cuz it works so when you find them snag yours and then jump over to our Discord and we'll we'll buy them out and then
[00:13:34] like I said people in our community will have extras if down the road we don't need them we can sell them to each other and whatnot meton says not to be that guy but it was me that printed those cam Ms
[00:13:47] so no worries really curious to see how they work with rocks nail sorry metal sorry I've gotten confused with so what what Bob Knox just printed me was this sorry brother what
[00:14:02] got me is it's both it's they're both in Black TPU metal dirin massive shout out and don't ever not be that guy if if any of you guys have ever printed me something and I forget who printed it
[00:14:15] or I say that the wrong person printed it please let me know I'm the jerk here not you you're not that guy Bob Knox just printed me this session five mount for the for the gro and
[00:14:29] it was metal dur skin that that printed me these guys thank you very much for that dude sorry I forgot oh Christ can I use my allergy brain as a as an
[00:14:42] excuse Zero taste fvv says what motors are that forgot to tag you in the first message haven't been in the Stream for a while if you're talking about the grind arino these are xnova
[00:14:54] 1804 3500s if you're talking about the AOS 3.5 these are axis 1404 why don't you write the KV smaller 4510 KV brand new on this is this little insta 360 go to holder that I didn't
[00:15:15] even know that brain 3D designed and sells one of my favorite things about it is that it's going to seem weird but stick with me the this is a generation one AOS 3.5 and the they used conical conical
[00:15:35] M2 these are actually m1.6 but apparently these were only used on like the the the pre-release version which is what this is but these are conical M2 screws which
[00:15:50] are almost impossible to find this guy you can use regular socket headed screws up front what's really funny is I'd lost one of these conical screws and I don't have any others so I just
[00:16:04] had one of the front screws that was missing so I now have one extra conical screw because I was able to run button head screw socket head screws on this insta 360 go Mount
[00:16:17] here's what's really funny slash annoying about this rig so I originally built this with a Vista in it and the thought process was to use it as like a backup to the backup for
[00:16:34] chasing the cyclists G RC I want to say made used to make these prop guards which are really strong these are like I trust these to actually fly around people with sort of not really
[00:16:53] but sort of so I originally built this with the Vista and then the the Vista camera the the the old school gray DJI camera which is very long which is what this camera cage was built for well
[00:17:10] then at some point I had to pull it apart I think the ESC was bad I had to pull it apart and for some reason I decided let me put WalkSnail in this so I put WalkSnail in this well
[00:17:23] the WalkSnail camera is really short and it there's a ton of the carbon camera cage in view which you kind of can't do anything about so now and when I when I switched it from the I had
[00:17:40] the Vista in the back and then but then the WalkSnail 25 by 25 only fits in the front here so I completely rewired it to have the stack in the back and the WalkSnail in the front but now I've
[00:17:52] got all this camera cage in View and there's nothing you can do about that so I'm now going to take this thing apart again not today but at some point I'm going to take this apart again and
[00:18:07] put it back onto a Vista with the stack back up front I guess I mean I I could I guess I can just leave the stack in the back and just put the Vista in the front why not but I'm I'm
[00:18:20] very annoyed that I'm G to that I took it from a Vista to WalkSnail and I can't deal with the camera Cage being in view so now I have to go back to aista but that's okay
[00:18:33] wonder if I can put an 03 in here I don't know either an 03 or a Vista will be going in here I love this little insta 360 goto Mount from brain 3D of course the quality is
[00:18:48] absolutely ridiculous because their machines are dialed and Brian knows what he's doing so that's kind of the deal with this but I want to get this I want to get this as dialed in as I
[00:19:01] can and hopefully have it stop dropping an arm so that I can bring it to Rampage and batter the living hell out of it but this thing is it's interesting with these guys on it it
[00:19:11] actually flies pretty okay with these on it but speaking of brain 3D I also got two qav s mounts which I was hoping to run for Rampage on the on the qvs build that I finished up a
[00:19:38] few days ago but instead it decided to catch on fire and burn itself to death so I didn't need to rush and order these that stinks of electrical fire still
[00:19:54] but at some point this qvs will be put back together it the the ESC just caught fire halfway through the first battery no reason just just it was a it was a
[00:20:11] t-motor Pacer ESC 30x30 ESC from FPV crate this is a full FPV crate build actually and everything was fine Motors weren't getting hot and then it just blew up and
[00:20:31] in a very similar fashion to it was the exact same situation as the the the rexis everything was fine halfway through the F like tune is fine flying it around a little bit I I think it happened on the
[00:20:48] second battery with that one Motors were not getting hot all as well starting to think about like tuning it and it the ESC just commits suicide and just explodes and on both of
[00:21:05] them the the flight controllers got pretty burned but there's a chance that they're okay it's such a shitty situation because it's flight controllers are now what like 50
[00:21:21] $60 and both of these they're burned but like they're not burned anywhere that it should cause like a major issue but like so so the cheap bastard in me wants to just drop another ESC on
[00:21:38] either one of them and see if it's okay but if I do that and the flight controller is not okay and it potentially blows up the new ESC or the receiver or the VTX or God knows
[00:21:53] what then I wasted even more money so what I might do is just get the super cheap Speedy B esc's 30x30 for the one which kind of fits it's an FPV crate build it's kind of
[00:22:11] like a budget build so that that kind of fits snag one of the 30x30 Speedy B esc's for it apparently they're great and then for the rexis I already have a speedy BC literally in that bag 20 x 20
[00:22:26] but I'm tempted on on the rexis to do the t-motor stack so I'm not totally sure about what I'm going to do there I think I'm going to end up just putting the the Speedy B 20 x 20 on there
[00:22:40] because that rexis build I'm going to so that's the 03 build for chasing the cyclists in a little bit higher quality but I'm going to eventually have there's a saying in the in the
[00:22:55] Cinematic in in the the film world to is one and one is none if you have one of something it's going to break immediately when you get to set and you're screwed so you have to have two
[00:23:04] of everything so the rexis same thing as the qav C they are not as efficient but they are way stronger than the AOS c right now my my setup on Vistas is AOS CNA 35 and I'm sorry 25 rather
[00:23:24] and qav CNA which is also 2.5 and when I'm testing I fly the qav and then when it's time to actually chase the cyclist and I need as much efficiency as possible I run the AOS
[00:23:39] and I'm going to kind of do the same thing here I think so the the rexis will be the Workhorse that I just use for for testing the site see if it's going to fail safe if it does fail safe it's not
[00:23:49] going to explode like the AOS CNA and so it doesn't have to have the t-motor stack in it right might as well throw the cheap speedy ESC at it and then on the AOS the
[00:24:04] the current so I can't just convert the old AOS CNA because the the 03 requires different camera mounting so I have I have a new AOS C current generation frame to be built and I
[00:24:20] think for that I'm going to put the fancy expensive t-motor stack in it because that's the and that's the one that's going to get actually flown in the sketchy situation right around the
[00:24:29] cyclist and whatnot so I think that's what's how it's going to shake out but I keep second guessing myself I keep feeling like I should just buck up the money and buy another one of these
[00:24:41] t-motor 20 X2 Stacks to put in both but I've actually heard from some people that the t-motor 20 X20 Stacks are blowing up these are people that are on 6s and this is what I wanted to kind of
[00:24:52] talk about both of these builds so I've been saying forever that with micros with anything smaller than 5 in freestyle 4S is the way to go when you get to 5S freestyle 2306 you know
[00:25:12] 1600 KV 1700 KV 1800 KV 2207 these are Big Motors that are going to pull a ton of amps through the through the electrical system and that's where 6s becomes significantly
[00:25:26] more efficient so with a 5-in freestyle rig there is no reason to build it 4S unless it's like long range but that's not freestyle so yes 5-in freestyle rigs 6S for sure anything smaller 4S and
[00:25:44] the rexis and that qav are a perfect example of this one of the big reasons a the main reason is that you don't the the smaller power trains don't pull enough amps that there's any significant
[00:26:01] benefit of success is there a benefit sure but it's not a significant benefit in my opinion and so you're you're going up to a higher voltage for almost nothing for almost no positives there's
[00:26:17] a big negative though and that's esc's catching on fire the the in the qav that is a t t- motor they don't actually make it I'm sure that the the general thinking at this point
[00:26:32] is t-motor expensive line of ESC and flight controllers are made by Aon which is why they're so awesome and then t-motor has the velock and the Pacer line of less expensive Electronics I
[00:26:48] think the prevailing theory was that the either one I don't remember which I don't remember if it was the Pacer or the velock but one of them was made by mamba but t-motor is a motor company
[00:27:02] thus the name t-motor it doesn't seem like they're making their own Electronics it feels like they're having someone else make them for them and but in theory there's still decent
[00:27:17] quality that 30x30 55 amp ESC catches on fire on 6s halfway through the first B battery this I forget what oh that's right this was an this was a [@$#%] acon 20 X20 this is a 35 amp acon 20 X20 ESC
[00:27:40] again meant for 5 in rigs catches on fire on sixs I can almost guarantee you in both of these cases if I'd been running 4S they wouldn't have caught on fire the 30x30 ESC it deserved to
[00:27:56] catch on fire and die because it's a 30x30 ESC the 20x20 did not deserve that I should have just been running that rig on 4S the first couple of batteries that I ran on it were 4S and it was totally
[00:28:10] fine but some people say that on micros there is a benefit to 6s and a jackass I said ooo I've tested that but it's been a while since I've tested it so let's do it again because I can't believe myself
[00:28:25] if I haven't retested something within the last year here and it burned to the ground so there's your example both in both of these cases I am like 99% sure that that
[00:28:43] that if I'd been running them on 4S they would have been fine 6s is pushing these Electronics to their limit right these electronics are built they the spec sheet tell you 3S to 6s and so when
[00:28:57] you run them on 6s you're pushing them all the way to the Limit you're you're not leaving yourself any leeway whatsoever regardless of the size of the motors you're just pumping
[00:29:09] a shitload of voltage into these things and if there are any inconsistencies in there if there's anything that's too close together if there's any solder ball that manages to get get its way in
[00:29:20] there it's going to explode the reason why I'm 99% sure that it's related to this is that they flew fine they both flew completely fine they weren't oscillating they weren't flying
[00:29:34] away they were great everything was cool and then all of a sudden they caught on fire and burned to the ground like if the pit tune was [@$#%] up if it was the wrong version of blue jay if any of
[00:29:47] these things that are like BetaFlight or firmware or tune related were wrong it would they wouldn't have caught on fire when they did they would have been oscillating that it would have been
[00:29:59] obvious there would have been problems that were there from the moment that I and in MO in both cases actually I would have armed it and it would have immediately exploded so in both
[00:30:12] of these cases it's just [@$#%] quality electronics and that's been a thing in FPV forever right and it's kind of our fault we we demand that this stuff be
[00:30:25] cheap we smash it into so why wouldn't we demand that right it's makes sense but at the same time it's incredibly frustrating I would gladly pay more
[00:30:40] money well I mean I do the acon stuff is is a little bit more expensive I would pay if there was a company that made bulletproof escs and flight controllers and we knew that it was
[00:30:55] bulletproof people had been running them tests had been I don't know I don't know how we get to that point but if there was a known quantity I would pay a lot more for either the flight
[00:31:10] controller or the ESC but we just don't have it man even even like the acon stuff it's not infallible the the this Aon 20 X20 35 amp ESC was an old one and apparently the ver version one
[00:31:28] 20 x2s from acon were not reliable it's like we need a company that like from the jump has a strong Quality Control process in place and none of them do and it's incredibly frustrating and so
[00:31:47] next time you have a rig catch on fire just remember that it's not just you and it's probably had nothing to do with you it might have if the signs were there if it's Ting if it's making weird
[00:31:59] noises and you just keep beating on it if you're Turtle moding the [@$#%] out of it right there's all these situations where it is our fault but if halfway through the first battery everything is
[00:32:09] running totally fine and Sparks start shooting out of it's falls out of the air and just explodes might not have been your fault welcome to FPV it's awful
[00:32:22] sometimes it's been a long time since I've had like I've had I think this is one of the reasons that I've been so obsessed with tiny whoops because first of all when they
[00:32:37] fail they don't burn to the ground they just stop working and it's like oh oh well they're also a lot less expensive a lot easier to fix both of these rigs like with
[00:32:55] both of these rigs catching on fire like each one of them it's like a it's like four hours of my life that literally went up in Flames that I'm going to have to spend like 4 hours pulling it all
[00:33:06] apart swapping everything out what I mean setting everything back up so f everything bigger than tiny whoops I guess I don't know I I'm now that I've been flying
[00:33:23] outside I'm like in love with flying outside again but like right away the FPV gods are like [@$#%] you so that's really annoying the WASP majors are
[00:33:48] on I flew a sketchy little neighborhood battery boy do they make some power the ESC is dropping an arm though so it never ends this is a hack RC ESC that I believe actually came from
[00:34:11] FPV crate as well so I think I'm going to have to pull it apart and swap the ESC out but I didn't really it only did it once it did it after the biggest blip of throttle that I gave it I was was just
[00:34:27] flying in front of the house and I was trying to keep the noise level down but I had to do one big throttle punch and so I left it at Full Throttle for like I don't know quarter of a second
[00:34:38] and then another quarter it was fine for like another quarter of a second and then it I'm like no but maybe it was just a fluke Electronics don't work but I'm going to take it out and
[00:34:57] actually push it hard in a safe place and then it'll either catch on fire or maybe it just won't do it anymore one of the cool interestingly enough in in both of these rigs that
[00:35:11] have caught on fire in the last month they are set up ESC flight controller right on top so when the ESC caught on fire on both of them it just roasted the [@$#%] out of the flight
[00:35:23] controller I didn't realize this cuz I haven't really had it happen because been running the Aon 30x30 35 amp esc's in my Glides forever and they're indestructible but if a Glide catch like
[00:35:36] if this catches on fire all it's going to do is ruin this battery strap right there's no flight controller on top of the ESC so that's like an a really cool little added benefit of the Glide frame
[00:35:50] having the the 20x20 flight controller up front is that it's isolated from the ESC so I'm going to go out and push the [@$#%] out of this thing and if the ESC catches on fire it catches on fire
[00:36:02] it's like let it fine do it prick die burn there I do have some wires running under the ESC so they might get a little toasted which would suck but still at least it won't kill
[00:36:15] I have tons of extra wire right at least it won't kill the flight controller unless it burns all the way to the ground but we'll see I can already tell that these motors make big gas
[00:36:27] power good God let me get a weight though I didn't I haven't weighted all up now it's got all the stuff on it battery straps GoPro Mount props all the good
[00:36:39] stuff so I need a session and I need a battery these are the batteries that I run they are tattoo rline version one 6s 1050s hard freestyle I get four to 5 minutes out of these limp it around I
[00:36:58] can get upwards of like 10 minutes and sweet a little bit heavier than than some of my other ones but 611 61.4 just 6 611 that's not bad I always try to stay as close to 600
[00:37:14] as possible I was a little bit worried because these motors are heavier significantly like a gram and a half heavier than the F40 Pro 4S that I usually run but
[00:37:29] to give you to give you a comparison this is the Rossi so that's an analog rig this is the Rossy the rosinante which is the the digital freestyle rig it is a little bit heavier
[00:37:46] because the Vista is a fat bastard this guy is wow I didn't realize it was that heavy 625 and it's on t-motor F4 Pro fours this is set up as light as I can get it but just the Vista is heavy so
[00:38:02] 625 for the Rossy and then this is like the full-blown lightweight rig just Glide analog this is like the the formula that I absolutely love and this should be why is it that heavy it's 6113 what
[00:38:19] is so heavy about you when what what have you been eating wny are you not 605 this one was supposed to be 605 I guess it was the other one that would make sense the
[00:38:34] one with the Wasps on it now when it had t-motor F40 Pro 4S it was 605 how did this get to 613 it's whatever it's less than 10 extra grams I I I won't notice the difference the look The the ends of
[00:38:48] the the weight on the ends of the arms is the important bit the all up weight of the rig the these things make thousands of grams of thrust so an extra 8 gram is not that big of a
[00:39:05] deal especially because it's not on the ends of the arms the ends of the arms are what rotate around and affect the pit Loop performance as well as just the general feel of the Quad when you
[00:39:18] move the sticks around the the all up weight you only really notice when you use the throttle and there's a massive delay any there anyway because it has to move the whole way to the rig
[00:39:29] and these make so much power that you won't feel the extra 8 gram of weight in this case but it is still puzzling to me where this thing got
[00:39:45] heavier oh there it is the it's got the this is the stronger X plate but it is heavier and I bet you it's got the yep it's got the strong top plate on it too okay and it's probably got this
[00:40:00] no it's got the old school bottom plate on it but it does have the stronger top plate and a stronger X plate so that's it that's where this thing gained seven grams I'm okay with that th
[00:40:11] this base plate here Bob designed because I kept breaking the other ones and it is significantly stronger so I'm cool with that all three of these guys are going to get
[00:40:22] flown I was trying to get out and fly them yesterday but I I just I I I was not in a good head space yet again but I'll get out tomorrow and get him flying so that they're working for
[00:40:36] Rampage they're going to be my only five in rigs for Rampage I was hoping to have that qav ready but instead it burned itself to death like a jerk
[00:40:50] but that's fine I I I Rampage for me is about meeting people hanging out it's not really about flying here in Atlanta there are phenomenal spots to fly and I've flown Rampage a bunch
[00:41:07] I've flown all of the flight lines at Rampage over the years right I've I've been to every single Rampage so far and I've gotten to fly at each one so it's a great spot to fly don't get
[00:41:17] me wrong but it's not like a new spot to fly and the and the places that we have to fly here in Atlanta are almost as good and quite honestly it's kind of hard to fly at Rampage like I I in
[00:41:33] general I don't love flying when there's other people around I'm super anxious I don't fly good when I'm in that mental state and having a lot of rigs on analog I get quite honestly
[00:41:46] blown out of the sky pretty frequently by digital Pilots and there's a lot of people flying at Rampage so it's can be kind of tough to fly at Rampage so it's fine but I
[00:41:57] do want to bring some stuff and break it's like the best spot to break a bunch of stuff so Zero taste F says thanks what motors would you put on a 6S 4-in racer I would not build it 6s as
[00:42:12] we've been talking about I've been thinking 204s or 205s hope you get well soon 204s 205s those are like a cow whoop motor you want something so Take 5 in freestyle sorry 5 in
[00:42:28] racing as your guide they all run 2207 Motors 22 wide s tall 7 14 21 basically 3 to one Veritas weasel thank you for the super generous Super Chat let me let me rip through this
[00:42:47] description and then I'm going to read that for you so you're looking for some for a motor that's 3: one ratio of width to height 2004 4 8 12 16 20 is 5 to one that's a very wide
[00:43:07] motor that's a motor that can carry a big heavy payload like a like a GoPro Hero 12 for example it's not really best suited for racing though so look for a motor that's closer to that 3
[00:43:21] to one width to height ratio FPV cycle has a 16 mm motor that would probably be good for you I think it's I believe it's 1605 right five tall 16 wide 510 15 pretty close to 3 to one
[00:43:41] can't think of any other Motors but that's a motor that makes Mega Power which is what you want for racing so that might be the one for you don't go 6s though unless you're going
[00:43:52] to put like a full-blown F stack in there that's designed for 6s 5 in rig even then though if 6s pushes these esc's to their absolute limit and if anything goes wrong it catches on fire
[00:44:08] and so there sh there should be there should be a KV on these 6inch motors 16 millimeter Motors rather that will work on 4S yep 4100 KV is plenty oh my God so you you would not want to run these
[00:44:36] on 6s so you're good run these on 4S you'll get much more durability you won't really be leaving any significant performance on the table and then all will be right with the
[00:44:48] world veras weel says happy belated birthday bud thank you very much man thank you for the support much appreciated Veritas weel is an OG gangly ganger AJ far with a $20 Super
[00:45:02] Chat he says get well soon man buy some zqu and sleep it off oh I wish dude I wish there was a way to sleep off allergies this is 100% a allergic apocalypse thank you so much guys super
[00:45:19] generous super super super generous trying to find where I was at in the chat here because YouTube of course did the thing Walter says about allergies get honey out of your neighborhood it
[00:45:32] helps has to be from neighborhood inform yourself about it my allergies were so bad in my 20s that I did loads of research and ended up going to an allergy specialist and for the better
[00:45:51] part of three years every single week I got a shot in each arm that's what the imuno I forget what the actual name of them but allergy Specialists that's what they do they make these concoctions
[00:46:07] with all the stuff that you're most allergic to they do a big test on you I was allergic to so much stuff they had to bring me back in and do a second level of testing all kinds of testing
[00:46:17] and then and I was allergic to so many things that usually you just get one shot like everybody just gets one shot but there I was allergic to so much stuff they had to break it up into
[00:46:28] two and so every week for almost 3 years I got shots in both arms I would I would take my lunch break every single Monday and I would go get shots in both arms and then sit under
[00:46:40] observation for a half an hour in case you die because they're literally injecting you with the things that you're most allergic to that was back when I lived a couple of hundred
[00:46:52] yards away from a major highway that diesel trucks tractor trailer is ripped up and down and apparently diesel fumes make you like 600% more likely to develop allergies I did not
[00:47:04] have allergies before moving to this place I then moved to Charleston and it was a little bit better I move when I moved here to Atlanta it got a lot better but it
[00:47:18] still does come up every once in a while like right now all the trees are doing doing the doing the the nasty so it's just there's just pollen absolutely everywhere and I was
[00:47:32] outside today so there's not a whole lot I can do about it I tried the honey thing when I was in Charleston it really didn't help here where I'm at we don't really had like Lawrenceville
[00:47:44] there's really not like any kind of a farmers market there's no local honey that that I can really grab I've looked but the honey thing like I'm sure it works for some people but
[00:47:55] I've tried it and from the research that I did there was a bunch of people that were like I've tried it's didn't really work for me but I've tried not everything but I've tried a
[00:48:07] lot so I'm pretty well informed about it Rob axon says got a Pez dispenser with Claritin right Elias says when doing yaw rotations my quad punches up a solid step I crash into a tree while doing an
[00:48:25] inverted yaw spin is there a fix for that I'm us using betaf flate stock tune sort of Elias so think about how ya'all works right so pitch if you want to pitch forward both of the rear Motors
[00:48:42] accelerate both of the front Motors break and so on a pitch movement this is going to push these are going to drag and so you get basically a rotation it's not perfect it does go up
[00:48:57] and over a little bit because the rear Motors can push harder the the the the extra thrust is always going to be more than the breaking when we cruise around we cruise around at like 25% throttle
[00:49:12] right so these can drop down by 25% to in a perfect world they can drop down by 25% to zero but then the rear can go all the way from 25% up to 100 so and these can't drop down to zero because
[00:49:30] then they would stall out it would fall out of the sky right so the the long and short though is that the breaking force is never going to equal the thrust force and the harder you are on the sticks
[00:49:41] this is the important part the harder you are with your input the more thrust these are going to produce if you very slowly very gently pitch forward like if so if you bring this thing up if you
[00:49:54] chop the throttle and it's just falling if if you very gently pitch forward you might be able to have an equal amount of breaking and thrust and you might be able to have this thing perfectly spin
[00:50:06] on its CG on this Center of CG not Center just on its CJ same thing with Roll All right but the harder you push the thumb stick the more it's going to break these down all
[00:50:22] the way as as far as it can but as soon as you get remotely aggressive on the sticks it's going to make way more thrust on the other Motors than and it's going to outdo the braking so you're
[00:50:34] almost always going to have a little bit of this motion rather than a perfect barel roll make sense now yaw is a whole different animal yaw does not have a propeller to
[00:50:50] make it rotate right we would have to have like on the tail boom of a of a collective pitch helicopter you would have to have a vertical spinning propeller back here to make this thing
[00:51:01] yaw with direct thrust right quadcopters don't have that so the way that they make y'w happen is that you've got two Motors that are spinning One Direction you've got two Motors that are spinning
[00:51:14] the opposite direction so what it does is it accelerates two and it breaks two down in the same way of pitch and roll but the problem is that it's not using direct thrusts to do it's just using
[00:51:28] the rotation of the motor like if you spin if you jack your car up and you spin one of the front one of the non-driven tires around get it spinning and then you grab it when you grab it
[00:51:40] your arms are going to go like this right because it has a bunch of momentum to it's has a bunch of centrif centrifugal force same thing happens here two Motors are going to break
[00:51:51] that's like when you grab the tire on your car or anything that's spinning a Merry around thing you grab it and there's there's that momentum so that's the breaking force two of these
[00:52:01] are going to break down and that's going to want to rotate the frame they can only break down a little bit though so the other two Motors that are going to speed up to create that rotation in the
[00:52:12] opposite direction they have to do the majority of the work and they're producing thrust when they do that and there's no way around that so no matter what the if you just yaw the tiniest
[00:52:24] little bit the braking Force maybe can can if you do it gently the breaking force can match the thrust so you can rotate this thing just a little bit without it jumping up but it's you're
[00:52:38] only getting the amount of torque that you can get from the breaking force which is not a lot the majority of y'all and if you want to rotate this thing any more than a couple of degrees it's all
[00:52:49] going to be thrust and there's no way around that but in the same way that we talked about a minute ago from pitch and roll the gentler you are the better when inverted yaw spins go wrong and land you
[00:53:04] in a tree is when you rotate it around and Hammer the yaw stick to the side because when you are super aggressive on the yaw stick the the two Motors that break do pretty much nothing you're
[00:53:18] inverted and then the other two Motors are going to go full bananas and that is going to pull you down really quick so the the the magic of inverted yaw spins is doing them as gently as possible and
[00:53:32] as early as possible so what you want is a big throttle blast you need to generate all the upward momentum you possibly can and then all at once you're going to jump off the throttle as
[00:53:44] quickly as you can and you're going to get it inverted as quickly as you possibly can and if you do that right you're still going to have a bunch of upward momentum so hammer the throttle Z
[00:53:55] as quickly as you can chop the throttle turn the thing over pitch it roll it whatever you want to do whichever direction you turn it over it does not matter at all you just need to get it
[00:54:04] turned over as quickly as you possibly can and get off the throttle as quickly as you possibly can and then you need to start yawing it as quickly as you can and as gently as you can the the slower
[00:54:17] you yaw it the less thrust these motors are going to make to pull it back down and so that's the trick to doing inverted yaw spins and not getting stuck in trees is to do all those and it's
[00:54:29] going to be like all at once it's going to be like and then nice I went off camera but like and then nice and slow and when you're coming around nice and slow it looks better too because you're asking a
[00:54:44] lot of your viewer right like you're taking your camera and you're shooting it up into the sky and it's like oo and then all of a sudden you flip the whole world upside down and the viewer is
[00:54:54] going to be like what cuz their eyes are going to be looking at something and it's going to be like on the bottom of the screen and then you're going to who and they're and they're
[00:55:02] going to have to track that thing on upside down the whole world's going to turn upside down and then they they need a second to like wait wait what what just happened and so if you do all of
[00:55:11] that and then you spin around really fast you're it's just like wait wait oh oh oh like they can't figure out what the hell is going on so with a nice slow rotation your viewer actually has some
[00:55:24] chance at like locking their eyes onto like some kind of a subject and oh cool and watching that slowly go across the screen so that's what's going on that's a great question
[00:55:36] those those are those are the kinds of questions that I absolutely love to talk about I I've spent a lot of time over the years kind of like dissecting what happens on the sticks
[00:55:48] and and it's because like I have this background in TV radio and film and it FPV is much less fighter pilot and much more camera operator to me and
[00:56:03] so these are all different camera moves and there are like camera moves that I want to do that we can't necessarily do so I've spent a good amount of time like figuring out like what is
[00:56:15] actually happening which propeller is spinning up what what goes into moving this quad in a certain way and how can I hack that to give myself like a camera angle that nobody's
[00:56:28] really done before in FPV or not many people are doing it or whatever and so questions I absolutely love so thank you for asking that it's a great question dude and it like every
[00:56:38] time I explain that a couple of people are like holy [@$#%] I had no idea I never even thought of that I'm going to start doing inverted yaw spins again because I won't lose all my rigs in the tops of
[00:56:48] trees so great question dude you mentioned like BetaFlight stock tune technically being more aggressive with the PID tune makes the situation worse because when you yaw you go off set
[00:57:06] point whenever you move the sticks you go off set point the more aggressive your pids are the more aggressively it's going to try to get back onto set point so technically speaking the looser your
[00:57:16] tune is the the less aggressive the yaw is going to be if you accidentally screw up and jam a bunch of yaw in so your stock beta flate tune is actually really working in your benefit
[00:57:29] here it's just that I'm pretty sure that you are hammering the yaw stick over and that creates a ton of thrust as we all know when we take our Rigs and we're right side up and we Jam the the
[00:57:40] yaw stick over it jumps up in the air that's what it has to do to create yaw it's the only way so it's just H it's just how these things work Cole power says this is some Prime
[00:57:54] streaming content I'm assuming that when my face was exploding Scott FPV says love that Georgia pollen the other thing is that Georgia has been rightfully described time and time again
[00:58:07] as a city dropped in the middle of a forest when you look at Atlanta from above it really is it's just a [@$#%] forest with cities Buckhead downtown and then all the the suburbs
[00:58:20] just dropped in the trees so it like this time of year there's not much you can really do Walter says listen to Nathan Nathan says that's basically immunotherapy without immunotherapy
[00:58:36] that's what I couldn't put my finger on without the needles great advice I the the the I had such high hopes for the honey thing but it's just did not do anything for me in
[00:58:48] Charleston and I said I've not been able to find any local bee Farmers here in Lawrenceville the grocery stores don't really get local honey unfortunately and Maggie
[00:59:03] and I have not found a farmers market farmers markets are usually where you can find actual local honey and we've not found a good Farmers Market anywhere around here which makes the both of
[00:59:14] us very sad because Charleston had amazing farmers markets Maggie is from Athens Georgia which had amazing farmers markets as well so that's a thing that annoys us actually
[00:59:27] not applicable says my first Mobula 6 2024 gets noises in camera on arm two more on the way Rob axon says mob 6 2024 hd0 mine had a motor plug pin issue bad crimp so far so
[00:59:43] good it's annoying but not the end of the world I guess Smoking Dog Kujo says I spoke to the people at quad mola they told me they didn't know when the F3 oh my God quad moo come on man they
[00:59:59] didn't know when the F3 split would be back in stock so I bought the F35 split and a set of three-inch arms same body a couple of people have now done that I'm trying to not do that but
[01:00:12] we're getting to the point where I think I'm G to have to do that ster says 3.5 inch day love 3.5 inch so much istg I don't know what istg means I actually don't love
[01:00:24] 3.5 I find that they have to for a 3.5 in propelled rig to feel like a 5-in rig in terms of flight performance and float and stuff they have to be like 350 grams which like you got
[01:00:39] to run a big old battery to do that and big old Motors to do that I really prefer 3-in rigs both of these three and a half inch frames have 3-in propellers on them and I find that
[01:00:50] they fly a lot better kind of a waste having the longer arms I guess the argument that I could make is that if for some reason I want a long range one of these rigs I can run the
[01:01:04] three and a half inch props on them and get better runtime I'm never going to do that but kind of is what it is I mean at the moment what's going on is that there are no good 3-in frames and so all
[01:01:17] we've got are these three and a half inch frames so it's is what it is I guess ash7 says which WalkSnail VT X did you use in the grind arino Nano or mini The Grind arino has the well
[01:01:33] both of these both of these have the the gray ones the V1 gray ones as you as evidenced by the Dual antenna setups on them I do have I think I have one of the newer ones one of the
[01:01:50] newer single antenna ones yes I've got the V2 kit I've heard a lot of complaints about the the V2 though I feel like I've heard less complaints about the V1 but this
[01:02:09] V2 thank you for the reminder because I did want to do this this V2 is going to go in a Glide I'm not going to have two analog Glides anymore so I did want to actually
[01:02:25] get this out of here to remind myself to put it in one of the Glides I don't know which one I don't know which of the Glides I I I think it's going to end up in the in the
[01:02:35] Glide with the WASP major Motors because that rig has a bunch of noise in the in the analog feed and my other analog Glide does not and I've I've moved the wires around a little bit
[01:02:51] in that rig and the noise has not gotten any better so I'm not totally sure what it is is but that's fine because I've really wanted to do WalkSnail on a 5-in rig for a while now and so this is the
[01:03:06] perfect excuse to do it so let's have at it and I'll get to try the the V2 and see if it's as awful as a bunch of people seem to say that it is on YouTube and
[01:03:20] Facebook so we'll see this I actually won this at Rampage last year this is the first time I'm taking it out of the box but it's been a crazy year so and then I have one more I
[01:03:36] have one more WalkSnail old school dual antenna VTX here as a spare so there's going to be a bunch more WalkSnail stuff coming soon I also have the I thought I had one of the
[01:03:51] fancier cameras there it is the HD Pro Camera so I'll try this guy as well but I know WalkSnail s had some teething issues with their firmware and whatnot and now I think that their
[01:04:05] firmware is in a really good place so now's a good time to Really dive into WalkSnail hard I also do need to try this pyro drone foam but I'm really happy with the the Newbie drone foam
[01:04:16] but some cool WalkSnail stuff coming soon including these two rigs that we're going to work on in a little bit here I need to get to that though actually because at 5:00 we going off
[01:04:34] I'm gonna wash Maggie's car and plant a dog dogwood tree that I got her for Mother's Day and so at 5 I'm going to say goodbye to you beautiful people and say good and say
[01:04:53] hello to a more beautiful person no offense but crom says grabbed my second Mobula 6 after someone posted it being available on Discord nice underground whoop League
[01:05:09] thank you metal dirt skin underground whoop League AJ Farah says what's the Mobula 6 Eco 2024 it is the new version of the Mobula 6 with hd0 on board AJ Farah thank you again for
[01:05:22] the super generous $20 Super Chat Veritas says HappyModel had stopped manufacturing Mobula 6 and turned production over to Boeing Min says happy Mother's Day to you as well Kevin Kevin Sumer says
[01:05:37] by conical screws you mean counter sunk that's what I mean yep thank you ver says mobile 6 Boeing 737 Max 2024 models are missing nuts and the props are flying off Buton says don't know
[01:05:49] about the AOS but 03 fits pretty perfect in the grind arino I don't know if I can necessarily afford to put 03 into like a 4 Fun freestyle rig if I'm going to spend I
[01:06:06] mean to be honest I'm not going to spend $260 for a VTX and a camera if flying fish Productions or Brad's company want to buy me 03 air units and cameras they certainly can and I will put them
[01:06:22] in the rigs that I chase the cyclists with but I I I I can't really afford to dump $260 on an 03 system for a 3-in freestyle rig that quite honestly I'm not going to fly all that much so
[01:06:37] the grind arino will probably never get 03 but this might maybe possibly if it fits I can I can pretty easily figure out if it'll fit the the way that this old school
[01:06:53] camera mount fits it's really figured out right nowwny waffle back and forth can somebody look up how tall the 03 air unit is for me real quick the amount of clearance that
[01:07:11] I have to play with is if I flat mount it this is assuming that it's going to clear left front back which it should maximum amount of height that I've got for sure 15
[01:07:32] mm there might be 16 in there though let's see just make sure that's lined up there wait no let me flip this upside down here we go flip this upside
[01:07:46] down okay so if that is there definitely 15 it looks like there's 16 mm of clearance clearance boy sorry about that so as long as the 03 air unit is 16 mm or less I should be okay let
[01:08:15] me see if anybody typed it in chat O3 a 14.5 millimet tall awesome so okay we'll see no idea how the 03 camera well I have an 03 camera so I I could try an 03 camera in here when I pull this thing
[01:08:37] apart we'll see I'll probably end up just putting a Vista in the front of this and then it is what it is but it would be cool it would actually make oh where am I going to put the
[01:08:52] receiver though I have the receiver up front H I could probably squeeze it in the middle somewhere it would be actually pretty cool to have 03 in here because for like a backup a second a
[01:09:08] third level backup for the the cycling stuff and then I could also fly at freestyle but no I'm not going to fly at freestyle because I can't beat the [@$#%] out of it and then chase the cyclist
[01:09:20] with Jello all over the damn place so this is going to get a Vista this is going to get a Vista I won't put an 03 in this and this Frame is meant for a Vista so that's
[01:09:35] fine I I can't believe that I had a Vista in this and now I'm going to go back maybe I'll put a naked Vista in this but it's this is not going to get 03
[01:09:51] but we'll fly it on WalkSnail once or twice until I realized that the ESC has blown up but in a little bit here we're going to hook that up and see if there's anything weird maybe like the
[01:10:02] maybe it's on Blue j.1 N9 which which has we've had a bunch of rigs that do that drop an arm on blue j.1 789 so maybe I can put this on the blue j16 and it'll stop dropping an arm and then
[01:10:18] all is well but I think that that ESC has to come out of there I've had a couple of 20x20 esc's in rotation that I've put into builds they've they've been a pain in the ass I've taken them out of the builds
[01:10:38] and stupidly I've put them right back in the ESC box without putting a note on them that says this ESC drops an arm sometimes and I think that's what happened here I I think one of those
[01:10:51] esc's I I then put it into another rig and it's doing it again if it keeps doing I'm just gonna start throwing them away I keep them because I'm a cheap bastard and I think like oh I when
[01:11:03] when it happens and I'm out flying I think like all right cool when I get home I'll put I'll take this out I'll put it in a bag that says put this on a rig that makes less power and because
[01:11:14] you know that'll usually work like if you have an ESC that's dropping an arm and it's a 4S rig on big nasty 1404 is making a bunch of power if you put that onto a 3s rig it's probably be fine
[01:11:26] so I do that but I do it poorly because I don't leave myself notes and then like six months goes by and I don't remember that I don't remember that that ESC was having problems in X
[01:11:39] or Y or z build so Kevin summer says when ordering roster frames from CM CNC CNC drones they all or all I've seen can be ordered with all button head yes they can
[01:11:54] that is a really nice feature this Frame was sent to me by someone and apparently it was a prototype oh wow there's a screw missing on the oh that screw is not missing it's
[01:12:09] broken off inside of there oh my God wny me you son of a [@$#%] you okay well there's that so there's a screw in here that is the
[01:12:55] the head's broken off of the screw so I got that going for me I remember now I I actually saved the head of the screw it's somewhere in here here it
[01:13:09] is yep so that sucks a big bag of donkeys okay well let me take this arm off and then problem's going to be I don't have any Replacements how long are these screws oh they're long I have some
[01:13:35] Philips heads though so might be able to make that work it's going to suck but whatever hate having Philips head screws on on proper bigger rigs it's annoying enough that we have them on the
[01:13:49] motors of tiny whoops but it's kind of makes sense 1 b674 says what LED race wire is that on the grino looks like they fit perfect these are tiny LEDs
[01:14:08] 20 mm long 9 by 20 I want to say yep nope yep 9 by 20 the grinder in arms are I will say this three and a half inch rigs the arms are long enough where the regular arm
[01:14:32] LEDs work 3in rigs the arms are a little bit too short and you have to get these flywoo 9 by15 LED race wires which they don't make anymore you can sometimes still find them I have a whole bunch of
[01:14:48] them that I'm willing to sell you I have them in pink and green so if if you need 15 mm long race wires I've got you covered just in those two colors though oh my god of course there's like
[01:15:05] nothing for me to grab on to please I think there might just be enough we good we good this screw head actually broke when I was working on this thing I I overtightened the top and it spun the
[01:15:29] it started spinning the the stand off and then it overtightened the bottom one and just ripped the head right off of it well cool we're fixing some stuffnext thing I need to do is see if
[01:15:49] these Phillips headed screws are going to be long enough nope nope nope let's see nah I can already tell well I think it'll have like maybe 2 mm of Engagement
[01:16:21] which that's not really enough but it's better than than nothing I'll put it together with this man I need to find some of some m2s to replace this with I guess I could just do I mean you can
[01:16:40] do what I'll do I'm going to go with a socket headed screw and then I'm going to run a really thin I have these really thin silver M2 washers and I'm going to crank that [@$#%] down
[01:16:54] down and it's going to take that washer and it's going to do it's going to do this to it's going to like make the washer into conle and that'll let me do a nice long screw here so let
[01:17:10] me show you what I'm let me show you what The Rock is cooking that's not long enough so I'm going to do an M2 by 12 here whoa wait I have one what it's a Philips head but oh my God
[01:17:30] what great I think I bought a bag of these at one point I think I knew this was coming this I I broke this a long time ago this thing has just been sitting on the shelf
[01:17:43] for a long time I think I I just said to hell it and bought a bag of Philips headed m 2 by 12 because I couldn't find the conle ones cool I've got everything I need now
[01:18:06] I just have to not overtighten these and break another one easier said than done Jesus I do not like these little I do not like these guys button head for the win socket head for the if
[01:18:20] if we're talking about M2 socket head is the way to go for sure these these conical headed M2 is just they do not have enough metal to not strip out and or break the the heads
[01:18:40] off so if possible don't go conle on M2 but I think we're going to be okay here I don't think we're going to be okay I know we're going to be okay Frankie fingers FPV says my Mobula 6
[01:18:59] ultimate build flies away on a full charged battery for a few seconds until the charge goes under 3.9 volts not sure why tried new props didn't help so Props are the first thing remember
[01:19:11] outside in propeller check your propellers first then check your Motors then check your frame check the screws going up into the motors make sure they're not too long then check the
[01:19:21] soft bounding on the AO but before you do any of that the question that you want to answer is when did this start whenever it started is typically the root cause of the problem so if that
[01:19:35] behavior started the the the battery after you plowed it into the wall at Full Tilt you broke something and that's going to lead you down the path of what's actually broken if if you
[01:19:50] don't have that answer and I mean the outside in thing it just works but even before you go that route you want to think about when this Behavior started did it did it start when you changed
[01:20:01] something in BetaFlight something in blue jay that that is like the last part of the outside in troubleshoot sort of flowchart but it could the problems could still be there so just think back
[01:20:16] to when the behavior started that's going to be the best way to start the troubleshoot and then go from the outside in you've already done propellers now come the more annoying
[01:20:26] bits are the motor shafts bent I've shown you guys a million times how to go into the motors tab or just fire up Turtle mode and hold the rig and individually spin up each motor to see
[01:20:39] how much vibrations there are if one motor is vibrating harder than another that's your problem it's got a bent motor shaft that's super super super common and then do you have a
[01:20:50] wire sandwiched in between the aiio and the frame hard mounting it do you have your screws cranked down too tight do you have your screws too loose is the battery pushing up into the USB port
[01:21:03] there's a million things that that can be going on but again outside in is the way you want to troubleshoot because that will the outside in approach goes from most common problems
[01:21:17] to least common problems so do that and you'll find it somewhere especially if you think back to when it started cuz that's that's the best way Elias says then should we use 8s
[01:21:31] or even 10s for 7 in and 9in builds if the electronics were available absolutely but they're not so the electronics aren't available the motors aren't available
[01:21:46] but once they are yes it would it would give you it would be a better match for those RI well I mean it kind of depends though right if you're looking to hard do hard freestyle with a 7in or a 9in
[01:22:02] rig then yes typically you're not typically seven and N in builds are for long range or for carrying heavy payloads and in those scenarios you don't necessarily need all of that extra
[01:22:17] performance that the higher voltage gives you 5-in freestyle is a very unique very violent thing that we're trying to do and that's why 6s works so well is
[01:22:29] because we're going for that violence a flying over zombies thank you for the sub subscription my friend SW dog Kujo says I've got the t- M 20 X20 stack for my 3-inch quad Mula build
[01:22:43] should I be worried no because like oh God right above your comment though kilo zebra says my t- motor 55 Amp Pro 2 ESC caught fire I mean look any in FPV has is is 5 seconds away from Catching
[01:23:01] Fire the fact that any of it works for any amount of time is a miracle the t-motor stuff is better quality like and that's all we can do all we can do is make the attempt at buying the not super
[01:23:18] inexpensive stuff and then if it catches on fire it catches on fire I've like l lot of people have had great luck with hobbywing I've had awful luck with hobbywing I've had five of their esc's
[01:23:30] die in the span of like a year and a half at one point so it's acon is the only company that I haven't had a nightmare with but a cou a month ago I had one of their esc's burned to the
[01:23:45] ground so even they're not infallible but all we can do is buy the stuff that's slightly more expensive and hope and read reviews and try but all of this stuff is is made to be very
[01:24:01] inexpensive with very little to no quality control so it's always a rule of the dice unfortunately super frustrating it's one of the most frustrating things about FPV ash7 says I'm in the same boat
[01:24:13] but not sure spending 100 pounds on a new Mini VTX to repair my Nano fly when you can get a whole new tiny AP already built for 200 lb FPV is tough man it's really is AJ Farah says
[01:24:25] you're a Bit Sassy today lol I'm just in a bad mood because my [@$#%] face won't stop leaking and AJ far also says how much would be a reasonable price for a lifetime warranty flight controller in
[01:24:43] ESC 500 bucks nobody'd be able to do it because we smash these things in the concrete nobody would be stupid enough to do it first and foremost if some was stupid enough to do it they would go
[01:24:56] back they would go under because people would take them out and smack them into concrete at 100 miles hour and there's a point where there's nothing you can do there's no
[01:25:06] amount of quality control that will survive that much GeForce so but in order to do it I I think they would have to charge 500 bucks because they would have to
[01:25:18] cover themselves for like three four five six Replacements per minimum so they would have to charge four five six times as much money as what we currently have Striker says if this is the case
[01:25:31] why get a $100 ESC to replace it once a year when you can buy a $40 ESC replace it once every six months and spend less money am I am I off base for this for me personally the reason being the
[01:25:43] the reasoning behind that right there is that I would rather spend more money and get a little bit more time then to replace an ESC is hours and hours and hours of work and having to do that
[01:25:55] every six months I'm just going to stop Flying FPV that that's unreasonable that being said I have acon esc's in the rigs that used to be up here but are now over there that have thousands of
[01:26:09] batteries through them that have been completely bulletproof so it's not all of these esc's that blow up all of the time it's just that what I'm what I'm saying is that regardless of how much
[01:26:21] money you spend there is a chance that it's going to blow up and it's important to realize that there's people that don't get that and then it leads to them quitting the hobby so but
[01:26:34] when you spend more money typically it will last significantly look if if you've got a $40 ESC and a $60 ESC the $60 ESC will usually pay for itself in time and money
[01:26:49] extra time extra batteries that you can put through it before it blows up and your time in swapping it out so that's kind of where I'm at with it and that's been my experience in the last
[01:27:00] eight years Nicholas says have you built anything with the hd0 Eco I haven't mainly because there's sort of no reason to like the the the benef I I've built stuff with the old school HD
[01:27:15] zero super lightweight setup I forget what it's called light I guess the the benefit of the hd0 Eco is not using a myy cable I never had any problems with my mippy cables on the hd0
[01:27:31] stuff so there's no reason for me to build with an hd0 Eco what I'm saying like there's no benefit to it for me and I don't like hd0 so like if I was going to switch over to
[01:27:45] hd0 I would absolutely get the hd0 the the Eco setup because it's going to be more durable than the mypp cables but I'm not so I won't although although I did see last
[01:28:00] night I fell down a WalkSnail hd0 rabbit hole on YouTube actually YouTube just served me a bunch of videos of comparisons I was actually really impressed by the the hd0 freestyle
[01:28:15] setup in terms of range it's always tough I I've what's what's interesting is previously and this is what joshu has always said is that WalkSnail
[01:28:32] DJI WalkSnail and DJI do have better range and performance I think where that comes from is that you can open them up to 1.2 Watts I don't think you can do that with hd0 the
[01:28:50] the test the the one test that I saw was no hacks on anything it was completely stock hd0 completely stock WalkSnail it wasn't WalkSnail it was DJI it was old school DJI so that's only 500
[01:29:06] mwatts right without the the unlocks it's 500 Mills and what's the hd0 freestyle do hd0 freestyle VTX output power they were both turned up all the way see the hd0
[01:29:27] freestyle will do one watt right out of the box so I had a feeling I I didn't look it up I was being lazy on the couch so that was comparing hd0 at one watt to DJI at 500 Mills and that would
[01:29:43] explain it because the hd0 was actually barely flyable for like maybe one extra second after DJI had black black screened and then hd0 went full rainbow but I was really impressed that
[01:30:00] hd0 was still flyable but now I understand it was at one Watt and DJI was at 500 so if DJI was at one watt it would have blown it out of the water because that's what I've seen I've always seen DJI and
[01:30:16] walks snail outperforming hd0 in terms of range penetration I love the idea of hd0 because of the lower latency but I also in the in this Rabbit Hole I also realized that
[01:30:33] I really do need to try WalkSnail race mode I didn't realize that the latency is all the way down at like 20 milliseconds I knew that it was locked latency which is fantastic but I
[01:30:46] assumed that it was locked at like the regular latency numbers which are like 30 to 35 20 milliseconds lock latency that's damn good and so I'm really excited about this is one of this is the
[01:30:59] reason that I I decided to put WalkSnail into one of these Glides is that on the Glide I have not done race mode on any of the WalkSnail tiny whoops because these are C whoops basically and
[01:31:15] I want the quality I don't want to drag down the quality for race mode right it's about the footage with these on the Glide it's carrying around a session five for the HD so as an FPV
[01:31:28] camera and this just further cements to me WalkSnail being if you're going to just pick one WalkSnail is the right way to go what scares me is all the people that say WalkSnail is
[01:31:42] broken and they've got broken vtx's and [@$#%] I don't know about all that I mean it's super hard to tell right they're selling a lot of this stuff and so what are we seeing are
[01:31:54] we seeing 1% of the total sales are we seeing 10% of the total sales that blow up how the hell do we figure that out but in terms of like one video system to rule them all WalkSnail
[01:32:10] has super lightweight options they have bigger options they have a few different cameras they have a lowlight camera they have a middle of the day camera they have Nano cameras they have
[01:32:22] infinitely lightweight cameras you can lock the latency down at 20 milliseconds in this new race mode there's two different goggles available stay away from the goggles X still I
[01:32:34] think they're still having issues with firmware maybe not I haven't paid much attention walks is is is it I think and it and it's not excruciatingly expensive like 03 so
[01:32:52] ster we got that Morton upshot says I'm not impressed with tattoo 2S in my opinion they die the second they hit 3.5 and you better land quick six packs all the same I have
[01:33:06] heard that about the the tattoo batteries is that but I mean when you get to 3.5 you should be landing anyway I don't I really try hard not to push batteries down below 3.5
[01:33:18] so I don't know the the tattoo batteries are lighter and with lighter weight batteries they're they're not going to be as durable in in some ways so it's you're
[01:33:33] playing that game verasa says nobody believes it was an accident when my 7inch burst into flames and went down setting my neighborhood lady's Bush on fire oh my God I would it wouldn't
[01:33:42] have been that bad if she AJ Farris says where did you get that NDT shirt at this was a Facebook ad Believe It or Not I have no idea where I got it from but I love
[01:34:05] it I love it so much please guys for [@$#%] sake please ver thanks again for the happy belated birthday Super Chat Kevin Su says immunologist thank you dude Nathan Otis says I gave myself shots three
[01:34:31] times a week in my belly I feel your pain the local honey thing really does help me smoking dog kuo says when I lived in Jersey and Pa allergies kicked my ass allergies got considerably better when I
[01:34:41] moved to Georgia it's wild changing the the the trees that you're around what that'll do CMYK says what's up gangly gang he says he also says wait is that a quad M frame says S3 says
[01:34:55] F3 isn't in stock till June now nope no no quad mola frames for me yet Striker says F5 split with AOS Supernova is my endgame quad quad M frames are so good little bit of a
[01:35:08] meat Rider but their frames are actually phenomenal I've heard lots and lots and lots of good stuff about their frames SP spok do Kujo says what are your thoughts on the qvs 3 inch I've
[01:35:18] built one here on the channel a long time ago it's okay the what was my main issue with it oh it's a little heavy it's a little heavy for a 3-in frame I think it
[01:35:31] also I think it also breaks arms v-s there you go 4in Friday luminer Q mini I built it with the with the dead cat 4in arms but I think at some point I put the 3-in arms on it there you go
[01:35:52] qvs Mini 3in AO swap so long time ago though two years ago three years ago it's okay I I I I don't love it but man there are not many it's probably one of the best
[01:36:09] 3-in frames that are available the I would do the micro Apex before that though but if the quad mola F3 ever comes back in that's the one to get and that's what I'm waiting for at the
[01:36:24] moment cmk says F3 was saying it would be in stock the end of April yep now it's the end of June yep kind of lame but may getting back in stock nope you did not Curtis hay says dogwood
[01:36:37] trees one of the most beautiful signs of spring are also significant producers of pollen awesome I just bought Maggie one for Mother's Day great I have to dig a whole in Planet this afternoon
[01:36:49] flip Sur FPV says you should bring a Superfly flip mini it's a really Sicky sick looking frame mine's coming next week build not bring Superfly flip
[01:37:04] mini a [@$#%] man we're not gonna get any work on these well no I did I I got some work done on this I got some work done on this well I'm not I'm not going to get anything done
[01:37:15] today these arms are way too thin good God what what the hell little bit a that is hopefully they're their thick arms hopefully they're at least 3 and a half millimet
[01:37:40] thick don't you dare not tell me how thick these arms are don't you dare the most important thing about a frame the only spec if you're going to have no specs whatsoever on your frame
[01:38:02] you can just put one Speck and that's the thickness of the arms how the hell do so many frame manufacturers miss this and not put the thickness of the arm is this real life
[01:38:18] or am I going to have to stab someone are you kidding me another frame that doesn't tell you how thick the arms are I'm not I'm not going to talk anym about it or look at it
[01:38:37] because if if no no nope nope sorry Curtis but no nope or flipster sorry flipster but no nope Kevin Su says spec we got that Curtis Hayes says how would you record on Vista and send video
[01:38:55] to the TV crew without the OSD showing up with a $1200 although you can also do it with the cosmo streamer but there's a box that does it unfortunately WalkSnail won't it's very annoying walks
[01:39:10] snail you can sort of output clean but in order to Output clean from WalkSnail you sacrifice your OSD the Vista and the 03 you get to have your OSD and then it outputs clean which
[01:39:27] is why all of us are able to use it with live flying events and have been for the last last three years I guess I've been doing it now flipster says we got that CMYK says sick that's my hope
[01:39:40] for HD zerothat new monitor is looking good I'm although I actually I think I'm going to keep my HD zero goggles it's just it's nice to have the DVR and the goggles the hd0
[01:39:58] screen if I do that route I'll have to bring the screen with me and the fat sharks which is fine for when I go to the RC drift car places but when I go anywhere else like
[01:40:10] if I just go to fly a jungle gym it's really nice to just throw these around my neck and then have the DVR built in and I have these right it's not another thing that I have to buy so I
[01:40:21] think I'm actually just going to stick with these but but what will make the decision is I need to do a head-to-head test Rapid Fire versus rapid fire on HD zero goggles versus rapid fire on fat
[01:40:36] shark goggles and we'll see but I actually think that I'm going to keep the HD zero goggles now I've changed my mind I flip-flo but I don't know I'll probably flip-flop 14 more times proton
[01:40:50] to go is in the house he says I've managed to have I've managed to have positive throttle Expo without a midpoint I like it I know you won't but I can't reproduce it when I try
[01:41:05] again it just goes negative so down how did I do it you mean what how so regular throttle Expo I got to do it backwards for you guys regular throttle Expo is like this so you're saying that
[01:41:36] you got it to go well without a midpoint there can be no throttle Expo there there has to be a middle point for it to so it starts off like this there has has to be a point for it to bend
[01:41:56] that regardless if it's positive or negative there has to be a midpoint without a midpoint there cannot be throttle Expo positive or negative you can set the midpoint the midpoint
[01:42:10] at 50% but there there has to be a midpoint with the midpoint turned off throttle Expo turns off it's just sort of the way it works so I my guess is that you had a 50 midpoint so
[01:42:27] it was dead center and then I guess it and then you would have to put a negative in the when when we add regular throttle Expo sorry for you guys it's like this regular throttle Expo looks like this
[01:42:42] and it's a positive value that you enter into the Expo so for the opposite of that for this you would have to enter a negative number in but you absolutely have to put a midpoint in you can't just
[01:42:57] not have a midpoint super interesting Kevin suer says I want slash need an AOS 3.5 V2 frame I'm not going to use oh wait no no no no you're asking me if I want a AOS 3.5 V2 frame
[01:43:24] no because I don't need another build this this I already have it's already built it's whatever I have extra Vistas I'm going to throw a Vista in it and it is what it is I don't really
[01:43:37] need to build another AOS I I don't need a third level backup of 03 air unit quad for the live flank stuff having the two rigs is completely fine so I appreciate it but th this
[01:43:54] because I have it because it's already built ready to go it's just going to get a Vista and it's fine I think big whoop FPV said with a 10 pound Super Chat he says seti
[01:44:09] thanks for the recent callchat and advice you're certainly welcome did my first commercial FPV shoot went super well David in Scotland PS hope your allergies die quicker than a DOD yes see
[01:44:18] thank you man congrats brother that's rad love that love that I was help you have a good experience on the on the first one there that's right that's awesome congrats py says can't
[01:44:30] watch live at the moment because time zone but not sure if you saw my question at the beginning regarding the 40,000 KV 0702 do when they'll be available or were they already released
[01:44:40] and I missed I have no information on them go to Weeble message them I I have no info even if I did have info they they wouldn't want me being the one to tell you so message
[01:44:51] Weeble ask them that's the only thing you can do I I but I legitimately have no Insight info on it f lojo says take a look at General nonsense for a crazy Grand Dorito build I so far
[01:45:01] behind I I I I'm gonna have to pass oh my God it's 449 [@$#%] Curtis Sayes $69 on f45 Reaper stack I've heard good things Kila zebra says another complication with FV Electronics
[01:45:16] is that software is usually open source bestest effort and bugs or issues contribute things like esc's dying early it's brutal Kevin suer says hd0 goes up to one watt 1.2 DJI walks
[01:45:30] snail not the same as one that's true right the the digital the the hd0 DJ U sorry the the WalkSnail DJI power outputs are very conservative numbers they're like when you put it on
[01:45:43] to 1.2 it seems it's actually like 1.5 it's crazy ant bbtc says my whoop battery survived 12 hours underwater rain gutter Turtle moding battery to death water is is not
[01:45:54] much of a fresh water is not much of a problem for electronics unbelievably pero says we got that Nath H [@$#%] you YouTube Nathan Otis says should I watch for Quad mola F3 or the split
[01:46:08] whichever comes in stock there there's not much of a difference if either one of them comes in stock snag them ash7 says are you planning on doing a video on the grandino build is already or is
[01:46:18] it just for flying freestyle I already have searched my channel for grindo you'll find it I did the build on stream Kevin Sumer says C message from flying over zombies above vx3 204
[01:46:30] Motors 86s I've been breaking a lot of legs do you think it's because of the weight probably 86s is a massive battery I don't know what a vx3 is but that battery is almost
[01:46:42] certainly too heavy I mean regardless if you're breaking arms like the the frame is either too weak or you've built too heavy it's one or the other that's just physics right so one
[01:46:55] or the other PR go says without a midpoint it's just a plain downward curve I got it to be upwards though that's not my understanding of the way that the throttle curve Works my
[01:47:12] understanding is that without a midpoint it won't do anything we have to plug this grinder Rino into BetaFlight though I might as well do that right now sorry for dropping this on the desk I
[01:47:22] don't have apparently I don't have foam feet on it yet I'm sure that was mind-blowingly loud for anybody with with headphones on my apologies Proto says it's not an s-curve but
[01:47:43] u-shaped I've never seen it do that but maybe I've just never not put midpoint in we we'll figure it out in a second Frank nlas says exponential by definition has no no midpoint wor a gud
[01:47:53] FPV the flight controller firmware may require midpoint but that's not the definition of exponent exponent maybe midpoint was Zero right exponential Frank Frank's dead on
[01:48:06] the money but I'm specifically talking about the the throttle curve and the way that that works cmk with the cv.com link thank you dude cmk also dropping a Cults 3D link
[01:48:18] I'm curious oh that's right that's right cmk sent me this last week look at this look how satisfying this is come on everybody click this link tell me that's not the
[01:48:30] coolest thing you've ever seen H my God here we go [@$#%] where is it R profile so if we take the throttle Expo and turn it all the way up to one and then we zero this
[01:48:55] out I'll be damned it does put a big old curve so you're saying that you had it you figured out how to get it to go the other way wow it won't let you add a negative value I don't know how
[01:49:07] the hell you did that I didn't know that it would do this without a throttle midpoint well I guess it does have a throttle midpoint the midpoint is zero it's do it's it's
[01:49:18] bending it down at zero but in my opinion you would never NE necessarily want to do this you you would not want all you would not want the extra resolution at zero
[01:49:30] but I have no clue how you got it to go the other way because it won't it won't let me go down and if I go up and then put a negative it just zeros it out so that's weird I wonder if you can
[01:49:48] do it in a CLI get Expo throttle Expo now see look the values are from 0 to 100 so it's not going to let you go outside of that it's not going to let you go outside of that
[01:50:05] value I have no clue how you did that man that's interesting Nathan Otis with a $5 Super Chat he says thanks for all you do thank you for supporting me so that I can do all that
[01:50:16] I do flying over zombies says thanks for the help you're certainly welcome where says is Mobula 6 available with WalkSnail it is not Nathan notis says midpoint 100 is that how to do it's is it is
[01:50:33] that's exactly how to do it good call good call because midpoint you're you're taking the curve and you're bending it and so when it's at zero you're bending it like this when it's at
[01:50:44] 100 you're getting the other side of it watch this good call so if we turn it all the way up that's what the midpoint at 50 here is that's the midpoint at zero watch if you
[01:50:57] set it at full there it is wow it would fly very weird so by doing this you're going to lose you're going to lose throttle resolution all through here but then you're going to gain
[01:51:13] throttle resolution all the way at the top of the throttle so if you spend a lot of time at Full Throttle this is going to feel great I do not but that's exactly how you do it
[01:51:25] good call the [@$#%] power of live streams right there my friends everybody that says I can't I like your stuff but I can't watch it I can't well this is what you're missing
[01:51:38] man this is why I do what I do this is why I choose long form content because I'm not always going to be the smartest guy in the room okay so grind arino build we have
[01:51:50] five whole minutes oh farts looks like I've got the receiver you are set VTX TBS smart AIO tell me that I tell me that I bound this thing please tell me that I bound this
[01:52:05] thing I can see the receiver flashing away boy will I be happy if this thing is bound and I don't have to go down that goddamn Vietnam let's see right and receiver and come on
[01:52:27] baby well it's set to SBS so that ain't going to work oh no the receiver settings are all are all defaulted out so I I have almost certainly not bound this thing which is probably the main reason
[01:52:47] that I haven't flown it so let me get a couple of these going here and four and four okay testing warning all right why is it giving the the receiver is instantly going into
[01:53:07] wifi mode what the hell is that about it's only supposed to do that after a minute oh here comes my [@$#%] nose again God damn you sending bind request come on baby just bind just be cool just bind
[01:53:28] please just just be cool of course not of course it's not going to be cool let's try giving it power three times one two come on you bastard get in there three okay come on bind it's double flashing I
[01:54:02] think that's a good sign all right let me try the other module I think double flashing is good isn't it isn't that bind mode all right module it's on 2.5 come on boot up there we
[01:54:24] go bind mode press descend okay come on bind oh oh oh oh what about that what do about that amazing o one two three beautiful we are bound all my other settings
[01:54:50] are good other than this Auto factor it's way too low let's save this and then we're going to go to presets and we're going to do elrs gez I don't even remember what I
[01:55:03] have mine set at 500 Hertz there we go and we are going to go cinematic and cereal single cell cool pick agree save and reboot this is going to set the
[01:55:32] smoothing the RC smoothing that is or it's going to bomb either or it's fine whatever you want to do you do you BetaFlight just oh man this is on this is on BetaFlight 4.
[01:55:52] one God damn it all right I'm going to have to update this Brandon's baked beans has confused has convinced me to start updating my quads to 4.5 so I've been doing that I did a couple of the five in
[01:56:06] rigs yesterday come on beta fight really God damn it well this ought to be interesting hopefully it didn't Jack anything up first step jack up your quad all right let's try this oh no don't
[01:56:26] don't be like this not like this oh you dirty rat [@$#%] you presets espresso the rest okay cinematic Cal pick oh what was that I think my firmware is too old all right well let's
[01:57:09] let's save a backup probably won't even let me do this we'll give it a try Morton upshot says update BetaFlight only if you need to or if it's a new build if it flies well leave it to
[01:57:27] FL and Imo that is usually what I say but there is there is some stuff in the newest look I'm dumb and I don't follow my own advice a lot of times so that's what's going
[01:57:44] on but I guess if the more mistakes I make the better the content so I'll make loads of mistakes and then I'll have loads of great content for you guys to laugh at
[01:57:59] me all right we got a diff here let's grab this oh my God look at all this resource reassignment that I did oh boy okay this is going to be rough 4.5
[01:58:22] load firmware online M protocol dshot automatically included crsf okay flash firmware it is 502 this is the last thing that I'm going to do but I believe that I
[01:58:43] bound I now know why I didn't update this because I'm going to have to desolder the I'm going to have to desolder the the receiver in order to get this into dfu
[01:58:57] mode and that is not going to happen today oh boy will there ever be a day that FPV is not quite this much of a pain in the balls wait a second there's a hold on there's a button on this flight
[01:59:19] controller I forgot hold on might be able to get this quick hold up we go holding the button down plugging it in come on you [@$#%] here we go be in dfu mode you jerk be in dfu
[01:59:41] mode it's not in dfu mode well it might be it might be it might be hold on let's try this look at this this guy pain come on come on come on come on it's not in dfu mode I have to
[02:00:01] desolder the receiver not GNA do it that's why I haven't flown this thing because what a [@$#%] pain in the ass I I will do it's just not going to happen now thanks for hanging friends
[02:00:18] I'm really sorry that I didn't do I finished the AOS 3.5 I fixed it I I it was finished but I I did fix the AOS 2.5 and I tried to finish this but I ran out of time I'm sorry guys
[02:00:33] be good what's today Sunday I'll see you guys tomorrow night at 10: that'll be the last live stream until next Monday night maybe even next Wednesday so don't miss tomorrow night at 10 o'clock love
[02:00:46] you bye I'm not ready come here's some DVR from a 5 in rig at Patrick's this is fun look how bad the how bad the breakup is come on man can I get a file that's not just me laughing the whole time
[02:01:24] there we go see you guys tomorrow night bye bye bye byee a n a