

[00:02:23] hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti Welcome to Hell welcome to whoop Wednesday welcome to whoop Wednesday welcome to whoop Wednesday welcome to whoop
[00:02:38] Wednesday welcome to whoop Wednesday we are going to be comparing a fully upgraded Mobula 6 2024 not fully upgraded almost fully upgraded to a relatively stock
[00:02:55] beta FPV air 65 tonight the the upgrades that have been done to the mbula 6 2024 I want to say Mak sense but that's a pretty silly thing to say look here it is the the the BetaFPV meteor 65
[00:03:17] air doesn't really need it's doesn't have as clearly a defined upgrade path as the Mobula 6 2024 basically the camera and canopy on the air 65 you can't really save any weight
[00:03:36] there they weigh exactly the same as me sneezing okay they weigh exactly the same as the old school Mobula 6 canopy and RunCam Nano 3 so on the air 65 there's really no reason to change the
[00:03:59] camera and canopy and that's the main mod that's been done to this thing to make it the mobu 6 2024 to make it perform better right the air 65 already comes with the 180 degree BT 2.0
[00:04:12] that's one of the other mods that I did to this guy it comes with an a30 which is the same thing but the the 180 degree is better because it gives you a little something to hold on to not it
[00:04:21] doesn't perform any different the frame that comes with the Mobula 6 2024 is fine but this light AF frame is amazing and the HappyModel Motors are shorter and they work
[00:04:34] perfectly with this light AF frame the air 65 the frame has the ducts higher which work really well with the motors that are on it if I switch the motors on this down the road I probably will I
[00:04:47] will then have to switch the frame out so the these two I guess this is like a stock motor comparison between these two guys which is kind of great because the motors are direct soldered
[00:05:01] on and the pads are tiny and most people aren't going to want to Des solder Motors cut connectors off of a perfectly good set of motors and solder those on lots of people will but I I've it
[00:05:16] sucks to have to direct solder tiny woop Motors it's super annoying it's totally doable but it's super annoying and then typically it's going to make you not fly the rig as hard because if you blow up a
[00:05:27] motor you have to pull it all the way apart and get the soldering iron in there and yada y y having Motors on plugs is Magic because you just Hammer the [@$#%] out of the thing and it's like
[00:05:38] oh I bent a motor shaft damn I have to spend 10 whole dollars on a replacement motor unscrew three screws and plug a connector in it's just so so so so easy and that makes you fly really
[00:05:53] hard hopefully you should be but in the interest of saving as much weight as possible possible by the way this is a version one Mobula 6 2024 with no motor plugs and the direct soldered
[00:06:05] Motors so this should be a cool comparison the motors are both stock they're both relatively the same KV we've got the same propellers on here the geman 1219 s's which are the perfect
[00:06:17] props for these kind of sort of lower KV 72s sub I should stop saying lower sub 30,000 KV is what I should start saying 07 02s and then I did put the lightest
[00:06:34] possible antenna on the air 65 just to try to save a little bit of weight here the the Mobula 6 2024 has had massive weight savings from the frame and from the canopy and from the camera
[00:06:51] I put one of my Newt micro on here which is4 of a gram and then I'm I put a moded whip antenna where I've removed the ground plane which is 02 of a gram so I've tried to kind of
[00:07:07] simulate a little bit of an upgrade here a little bit of a mod path here with the lighter weight antenna realistically the the path to modify this down the road is swapping the
[00:07:20] motors out and when you swap the motors out to HappyModel it's going to make a lot of sense to swap the frame out we're going to get there with this but I do want want to fly at a bunch Stone
[00:07:31] stock relatively stock right other than the antenna and so I thought this would be like a really cool comparison like very very simple mods right these are mods that you can do
[00:07:44] with a screwdriver swap the frame swap the can well no you have to direct solder the the camera on this almost solderless mods but I thought this would be kind of
[00:07:58] a cool comparison between the these two guys excited hopefully maybe not doubles FPV was first Andrew Taylor was next FPV toast Cloud Hopper notice Douglas outwell Cole Powers Adam Weston
[00:08:09] Scotty Scott Tom Johnson Striker Mick mucas Walter vanord Brent Anderson Cole Powers Fusion Catalyst jbo 888 render safe Zone ninja monkey skull 901 Frank Nicholas valua
[00:08:26] what's up everybody thanks for coming sorry for the late stream scheduling and the the late start Maggie and I Wednesday nights Maggie and I go to couples dance lessons it's a dance
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[00:12:49] notice tagged me and said oh we we dealt with that Striker says Cole Powers says that shirt Cole Powers also says did you see roster's video about the air 65 I did VTX output at
[00:13:01] 25 M is like 200 M on R1 and then on on the next power setting up it's like 450 Ms the the air 65 is is outputting way way way too high in terms of power levels totally fine for us
[00:13:20] freestyle donkeys but for Racers they might not love that that's one of the reasons that the Mobula 6es are not really allowed in most of the to the whoop racing cuz they output too much
[00:13:36] power at 25 Mills and it shits all over all the other Racers so I have a funny feeling that this the the air 65 might not might be a little bit frowned upon on in the racing scene
[00:13:49] hopefully not hopefully there they'll there'll be a fix or something but that was crazy to see that J 8 says you've inspired me to build the 75mm 2S WalkSnail WalkSnail rig I
[00:14:03] only have analog and it's hard to spend the money and upgrade my goggles especially when no WalkSnail does analog it's a super super super shame that the goggles X don't have as
[00:14:16] good of an analog sort of implementation as the HD zero goggles there are ways to do it but not slick and you're going to be 3D printing like a thing and so I mean it's
[00:14:34] possible but kind of annoying and it seems to be from what I've seen there's it's not a super low latency way of doing it whereas the hd0 analog implementation is like
[00:14:49] amazing so that's kind of a shame although I mean these these old school WalkSnail goggles are amazing and they are not very expensive and they are going to hold their value really
[00:15:03] well so I mean snagging a cheap set of fat sharks off of Facebook Marketplace or eBay and then grabbing a set of these is not a is not that bad of an idea to me WalkSnail is like the
[00:15:17] most versatile of the digital system so a set of analog goggles and then a set of WalkSnail goggles for me like that's it man WalkSnail on 5 in 3-in all that kind of stuff even on the
[00:15:33] tiny whoops and then analog for like razor sharp indoor Full Tilt freestyle tiny whoops and Away you go so Walter says good comparison I check tomorrow it's too
[00:15:48] late thanks for stopping by brother Scotty Scott says aren't the spacers that come with the Cockroach to put under the aren't aren't aren't there spacers that come with the Cockroach to put
[00:16:01] under the HappyModel Motors to raise them up to the Ducks no but there are spacers that come with the meteor 65 airframe to lift the motors up the problem is that those spacers are like
[00:16:11] hard plastic and it's just a terrible idea to add weight all the way out here on the ends of the arms so technically you could do that but the whole point of this Frame is that it's
[00:16:24] super super super lightweight if you then use spacers that's silly it's makes makes much more sense to get the air the Cockroach light AF frame not have to use spacers because I
[00:16:36] mean really the only reason to run these Ultra lightweight frames is to have them be ultra lightweight and then if you're putting spacers that's going to kill that so I would not recommend
[00:16:47] you do this and what's interesting is when you buy the air 65 it does not come with those spacers you would have to buy this and an additional air 65 Frame to get the spacers but don't do that the
[00:16:59] the light AF frame is better I've I've not had great luck with this durability wise admittedly that was back with HappyModel Motors and the ducts pushing up over the props once I've been
[00:17:12] so I've had the Proto the air 65 prototypes for over a month and they have actually been really durable but so has this th this light a frame has been super durable and it's
[00:17:25] lighter than the air 65 Frame so if you were to use those spacers you'd have a frame that's slightly heavier and then the heavier spacers like why this is like a $4 frame just get one or get half
[00:17:38] a dozen so that you have a bunch of extras Andor you can equip the whole Fleet with them county FPV says I just got a I just got a fixed camera mount and G what's a fixed camera mount and g&b 1500
[00:17:56] and the two of them together make it diff difficult to plug the battery in is it a bad idea to do an extension lead it is you don't it makes much more sense to remove your current battery
[00:18:14] lead and to get a longer one and just direct solder it on there it's not the end of the world but it's just going to become messy and it's just another thing to kind of fail and
[00:18:26] with a 5in rig like for me I'm super careful with them like the last thing I need is a 5inch rig to fall out of the air and hit somebody in the face or fall in somebody's car like you can actually
[00:18:36] do damage with them right like with a tiny whoop or even like a three-inch rig it's a joke right like if it falls out of the sky like what's it going to hurt an ant but with 5-in rigs like
[00:18:46] they're just they're a little too heavy and angry and so I would I would definitely advise against not doing some kind of like a janky little extension even if you didn't even if it
[00:18:56] wasn't a janky extension lead it's still kind of janky because of what it is and you're just adding more more things to kind of fail right so if you're going to stick with the fixed camera mount and
[00:19:07] that size battery I would recommend doing it right get it get another XT60 with a big long lead on it cut it to the right length and Away you go 1500mah I'm assuming 6s that is
[00:19:21] a hell of a big battery though County unless you're doing like long range stuff that that's an awful lot one of the really nice things you can do with 5-inch rigs is actually lose a
[00:19:33] little bit of weight because they're they're awful heavy and they're awful slidy which makes shooting smaller gaps more difficult so if you can do I I run 6s 1050s on lightweight
[00:19:46] relatively efficient rigs and I get like four and a half five minutes from them heavier rigs are obviously going to get less runtime but a 1500mah 6s like that's a lot so maybe have
[00:20:00] that I don't know it's depends it depends on the frame it depends on what GoPro you're carrying it depends on how much extra TPU stuff you've put on there but for me it's even with
[00:20:12] big ass rigs it's still about saving weight where you can it does make them perform better even though sometimes you'll you'll save 10 10 grams and you'll do the math and you're
[00:20:23] like well that's only a half a percent of weight savings but I'm just making that number up for the record but like if you find a half a percent here a half a percent there half
[00:20:34] a percent half a percent it's going to add up and there will be a difference there so maybe maybe if you're on 4S 1500 is makes an awful lot of sense but if you're on 6s a 6S 1500
[00:20:47] battery MH battery to me that's like a long range battery or that's like like I don't I run 1,400 Mah 6s on the ultra highs speeded rig but it's a rig meant to cruise at 100 miles an hour
[00:21:01] not cruise at 100 but like break triple digits so I put a big ass battery on there so just some food for thought just some food for thought smaller batteries and more frequent
[00:21:12] battery changes is going to perform an awful lot better and more you'll end up paying the same amount of money for like more like like eight smaller batteries versus five bigger Mah higher Mah
[00:21:27] batteries going to cost the same amount and then like as you start crashing hard too more smaller batteries they're going to crash better because they're not going to hit as hard because it's not
[00:21:36] going to be as heavy but also you're going to have more batteries so when you destroy a battery it's like less of a hit so again just some food for thought what else is happening here I got to
[00:21:47] do some orders man I need to get some light AF frames so I'm going to be doing a newbie drone order I'm going to snag a set of these 802 EX 19000s to test to see if on 2S maybe an 802
[00:22:02] will work on the 75mm WalkSnail 2S freyle rig and then while I'm at it while I'm mortaring on Tiny Whoop I'm going to try these 1S 450s with the little leads I think they're a
[00:22:17] little bit lighter than the ones with the big plastic let's see the big plastic heads on them I I do like the ones with the big plastic heads on them because the batteries won't eject I'm I'm
[00:22:30] worried that these batteries here are going to eject but only one way to find out so the the batteries that I've been running the Weeble 450s are 12.4 gram and then it looks like these guys are
[00:22:46] 11.6 so I'm going to save point8 of a gram which doesn't sound like a lot but it actually is so that'll be cool so I'll get a set of four of these to check them out I'm also going to get
[00:22:58] two more of these two s3000s cuz I am really impressed by them and only having two batteries is super annoying for that rig and then I'm going to snag a couple more of these Mobula 6 canopies
[00:23:09] just in case they ever like go away forever I want to be I I really I I do think that this is the best canopy ever and I have a bunch of them but they do eventually break and they're $3
[00:23:25] so why not have like 10 extras of the damn God forbid they ever get discontinued as everything does in FPV I'll have enough for the next 5 years or whatever so that's
[00:23:37] going to be the tiny woop order as long as that gets me to where free shipping is I do need to look around on the Newbie drone store I don't I got to see if there's anything super
[00:23:48] interesting I just I refuse to do I ref I I just I refuse to pay for shipping so I will not do an order on a store until I've found enough stuff stuff that I can get free shipping it's very
[00:24:00] strange but like if you do the math free shipping is sometimes like a five or even 10% discount so it really does matter but I haven't really spent any time floating around their
[00:24:11] website yet so I need to do that I'm sure I'll be able to find a couple more things that that we can test together and get me over there whatever the free shipping number is so if
[00:24:24] there's anything on newbie drones website that you guys are like desperate for me to test let me know tag me in the chat type c a FPV in the chat and let me know and maybe I'll snag it
[00:24:36] because I'm buying a bunch of the light AF frames I'm going to buy like four or six of them but they're only five bucks each so that's not going to get me near the whatever free shipping amount
[00:24:46] is 80 bucks maybe a lot of most of the free shipping man back in my day you used to only have to spend 50 bucks to get free shipping on these websites now it's up at towards
[00:24:58] 80 a lot of times but makes sense everything's more expensive notice says so when I order an air 65 do I want the racing higher KV model oh boy word on the street
[00:25:21] is that the so there's two versions of the the air 65 the race and the freestyle version in my opinion they've got the names backwards they're calling the freestyle the the the 23000 KV version
[00:25:37] they're calling the freestyle version the 27 the 27,000 KV version they're calling the race I think that's backwards because Racers are shooting for runtime and efficiency and they're just like
[00:25:54] burying the throttle all the time so to me in my opinion the freestyle should be the higher KV one and the race one should be the lower KV one but whatever word on the street is they used the
[00:26:06] same thickness winding material on the 27,000 KV as they did on the 23,000 KV and that's not great and so if you want efficiency but the problem is 23,000 KV is kind of low I
[00:26:24] did test the they sent me two prototypes One race one freestyle and they both felt pretty fine once you got them on the 1219 S motor propellers and so that that's usually like a
[00:26:41] dead giveaway if the same motor if the lower KV and the higher KV if if especially like between 23,000 and 27,000 that's a huge difference if those two Motors feel pretty similar that's a
[00:26:55] dead giveaway that they didn't retool the machine when they spun up when they wound up the higher KV and so the 23,000 KV is probably going to be more it's certainly going to be more
[00:27:09] efficient because it's lower KV but then it could also be more efficient because the thickness of the windings is correct for the number of turns higher KV is achieved by turning the windings less
[00:27:23] around each Stater pole and so to correctly do that you're supped to run a thicker copper winding because otherwise you wind the same thickness copper less times and you have less
[00:27:36] copper which is going to produce less torque on that state on those Stater poles so what they're supposed to do is retool the machine for a thicker copper when they wind the higher KV
[00:27:47] motors with tiny whoops everything has to be ultra cheap so they try to find every possible little way to not waste time money and so again that is hearsay I've heard
[00:28:02] other people talking about that I've seen that the that the 27,000 KVs motors have less runtime than the 23,000 that would make sense even if they did retool the machine because
[00:28:17] it's a higher KV and it makes more power but it's something that we have seen before and we will see again the the manufacturer not using the thicker windings on the higher KV Motors
[00:28:31] it's not the end of the world you'll you'll be okay with either one of them the 27,000 KV version the race version it does make more power period and as you're going to see in a
[00:28:43] little bit I'm still getting like six 3 minutes little little bit over 3 minutes of runtime on this and in my opinion 3 minutes of run time is plenty and we should not be
[00:28:58] complaining about that these these folded cell BT 2.0 batteries are cheap you can get them pretty much everywhere and so but that is a that is a pretty personal decision do
[00:29:12] you want more runtime and less power and potentially more Grunt and more torque or do you want more horsepower and less efficiency I forgot to put I wanted to put some
[00:29:31] more of these 260mah batteries on the charger so I'm gonna have four of the 260s and then we're also going to fly a bunch of these 300s we're going to do a bunch of flying tonight I'm going to I'm
[00:29:41] going to really bounce and back bounce back and forth between these two rigs a bunch so there you go ster says you should try this cool whoop I don't know if you've heard of it it's
[00:29:51] called the hummingbird V3 I've got I I I assume that you're being faci but newbie drone sent me the hummingbird V3 ages ago when it as a prototype actually I gave him a bunch
[00:30:06] of feedback and then they sent me one of the release versions and unfortunately it's didn't hold up to the punishment that I give it that I give things and it broke pretty quickly
[00:30:19] they sent me a replacement board and then that broke pretty quickly as well so the the hummingbird is really interesting and very lightweight but unfortunately the the durability is the
[00:30:32] problem with it for anybody that hasn't seen those old live streams but if you go to my channel search for hummingbird V3 there's a whole bunch of live streams on it if it were durable it would be
[00:30:41] a real thing but and I haven't heard anything about them being able to figure out it the the VTX was going and it was going when you would crash kind of hard and it's like how do
[00:30:54] you fix that I I had to stop at I had to stop at McDonald's on the way home to get something because I was starving what is this what am I doing here these go here I got to do some
[00:31:11] 75 millimeter Jungle Gym Basher testing put that actually I'm going to put this over on the coffee table that'll guarantee that I that I see it tomorrow and do some
[00:31:23] testing testies oh hold on let me let me set these gates up hang on friends if we're going to be flying 65 tonight we need some gatesoh look who it is it's a spaghetti
[00:31:42] monster what's up you little bastard what are you doing come here buddy why is your face all wet what are you doing come here buddy come here come here no he knows I'm
[00:31:54] going to pick him up he doesn't like to be picked up but I like to pick up so there's that come here come here come here little boy come here little boy come
[00:32:05] here oh oh there he is oh God his face is soaked soaking wet don't touch me with that big mustache oh God that's never mind there he is oh
[00:32:29] oh oh oh I love him oh hello good boy see it's not too bad being picked up God he hates it man his face is soaked it looks like just instead of drinking
[00:32:48] jbo 888 says can you can you talk me out of 75mm 2S analog build oh easily it seems like it would be so much fun but does it really just not perform well it's not that it's not
[00:33:07] going to perform well it's just going to be out of balance it's going to have too much weight and too much thrust it's going to have more the biggest problem is going to be
[00:33:18] it's going to just have way too much power tiny whoops are not for like massive power they're for shooting they're for flying small right so I haven't talked about this in a while but
[00:33:32] one of the things that I'll say that some people be like what the [@$#%] are you talking about is flying Big versus flying small and the easiest way to think about it is flying at Big
[00:33:43] locations and flying at small locations that's what you if if you're at a big spot you fly big big throws big Power big ground speed when you fly small you fly tight in the house in the garden you
[00:33:58] look for tiny little gaps you drop down below stuff you you you like when you level change you you you level change from like being all the way on the deck to like one foot up when you're
[00:34:09] flying big and you change levels you fly from being on the deck to 5et up right and so tiny whoops are for flying small and when you're flying small you don't need gobs of power if you build a
[00:34:24] rig that had a tiny whoop that has gobs of power all you're going to do is break the [@$#%] out of the frame also the the frame selection can is kind of tough although with a 75 we do have a whole
[00:34:38] bunch of frames that will accept a 2S battery so that's not an issue that's more of an issue with 65s but so that would be my way of talking you out of it basically a Mobula 7 1S elrs
[00:34:55] with a motor swap motor swap excuse me to 0802 25,000 or 27,000 that's all the power that you'll ever need BT 2.0 as well and then the 450 M folded cell batteries that's
[00:35:11] it that is a balanced rig a lot of people think that has too much power those people are wrong they're not wrong they're just misinformed no it's just the right amount of power and if it has
[00:35:27] too much power you just motor limit's down and guess what now it's perfect you get to pick exactly the right amount of power but the the much like with cars there's a
[00:35:41] balance and there there's a balance of power to weight and if you if you shift that balance and you've got too much power not only does the rig tend to get
[00:35:56] heavier but it's harder to fly in the situation that it should be flown in so a lot of this a lot of like the finer like the when I initially start screwing around and trying to figure
[00:36:10] out like the best combination of parts I I'm like hitting it with a hammer like making big changes going to really powerful Motors really not so powerful Motors and then like so you you figure
[00:36:23] out you hit's you hit the problem with a hammer a bunch and then you really kind of refine it and what you're working towards is is finding the the best rig that
[00:36:34] performs really well in like a specific scenario and with tiny whoops there is a specific scenario right if you put a ton of power into these you're just going to break the frame all the time it's a
[00:36:44] plastic frame right like just by that just by the fact that it's a plastic frame you don't want to have Mega Power because it's just not going to hold up they're they're meant to be small and
[00:36:54] light and maneuverable and whatnot so there you go there's your there's there's me talking you out of an analog 75 millimet 2S Striker says oh no we got that oh Striker also says huming was a joke
[00:37:10] wish it was good but at least we got air 75 air 65 for 95 bucks now yep Denzel the TR says good evening what's up homie Kevin James says hello everyone all right cool we're caught up let's
[00:37:21] start flyingbig bag of disgusting out of here let's let's start fly flying and then I'll take a break to answer some questions and then we'll fly some more I got a bunch of batteries on the
[00:37:33] charger that should be good Teddy just ran away so that's nice there's a fly flying around which is absolutely driving me insane but I'll live I will live the batteries that
[00:37:47] have been sitting here charged I'm just putting them back on the charger to make sure that they're topped up emac sent me some of their
[00:38:00] new battery leads that they say are better than BT 2.0 I don't know of any batteries that use these leads so they sent me the male and the
[00:38:15] female and I don't know of any batteries that use these and I'm not about to have back up a bunch of My BT 2.0 batteries to change the connector on them so I'm not really going to use
[00:38:37] these does anybody want them I'll send them to you for the price of shipping I don't know what like I I feel bad that they sent these to me it was cool of them and I I just I don't
[00:38:49] want them to just sit here and I'm just I'm never going to hack up a battery to switch this lead on so if somebody wants these if some somebody has a battery where the lead broke off
[00:38:59] or something or if you're really just desperate to try these out message me somewhere all my contact info is on C fpv.one use these than them just sit
[00:39:25] here forever and then eventually I I throw them away I'm sure that they're ever so slightly better than BT 2.0 but there are no batteries with them yet once there are batteries with
[00:39:39] them maybe they'll be more realistic of an option but like I don't know it's kind of too little too late like it's great that emac is going to have a good connector on their 1s
[00:39:50] stuff but like bt2.0 is already there's a dozen different batteries that use it like this is is not going to magically take over but if you're in that emac ecosystem they will almost certainly
[00:40:02] have batteries sooner than later with these on them and so if you want these message me and they're all yours also I've got a the collective shirt it just says the collective all
[00:40:20] down this is one of the Fiverr shirts in medium if anybody wants a green Collective C FPV shirt in medium let me know look at thisI I was into basketball growing up and so instead of
[00:40:36] a baseball card collection I had a basketball card collection that was in the 9s when we were up in elegy Northwest Georgia I guess it was we went to an antique store and they had a
[00:40:49] whole bunch of cards and it just blew my mind that they had these These are these are what I used to buy and be Hoops 19909 9091 9192 9091 so I had to snag a set of each I
[00:41:07] I just couldn't I I I just I hadn't thought about or seen this packaging since I was like single digit years old I guess right 91 I was 10 10 and nine and 10 years old and so danzel
[00:41:24] says open the cards in the Stream hell no these are staying exactly like this I was I I I was going to buy two packs of each to open one and not open the other but these were
[00:41:37] like these were like $450 each I think I was like no nine bucks for two of these is fine but I ain't spending 18 bucks I'm too cheap for that so I thought that was cool if if you're a '
[00:41:49] 80s 90s kid maybe you recognize these although I think most people would recognize baseball cards not basketball cards I'm sure not many people have basketball card collections except my
[00:41:58] weird ass but Striker says 2S analog 75 millimet sucks 6s 75 millimet is better Kevin James says hello everyone in seatt FPV what's up brother ster says 8 s is for 65mm there we go Denzel the
[00:42:16] turbo says open the oh we got that all right cool we're good also if anybody is doing the if anybody is doing WalkSnail build WalkSnail tiny whoop builds I have
[00:42:28] some extra of the m1.2 X12 screws that you're going to need to run down through the double stack board let me know if you need these it's like five bucks to get 50 of these from eBay but
[00:42:42] so you won't necessarily save money getting them from me but I have more than I need so maybe go to my Etsy store and find something else you want to buy and then I'll throw in four
[00:42:54] of these or whatever but I have some extra if you need them let me know I need to pull footage off of this and I keep forgetting to do that so let me put that there cool these
[00:43:07] three batteries are fully charged as is this one so we've got four Good batteries that we can run hopefully both of these are on hi buddy elrs 3.0 so that I don't have to constantly change
[00:43:22] the the Bing bongs back and forth all right let's do it let's fry some crds do I have goggles I do I do I do I do Juju says is the Mobula 6 elrs still available it is indeed Bob Bruce says I
[00:43:49] also have a basketball card collection and Magic the Gathering LOL never got into magic I always wanted to Striker says was talking to heads about this yesterday how often do people ask for
[00:43:59] free whoops oh not very often but it does it does happen people do just think that like because you have a YouTube channel that you're independently wealthy and in many cases nothing could
[00:44:13] be farther from the truth I make less money now than I have since I was like 20 years old but it's worth it it's I do something that I love and it's hard to find something that you
[00:44:28] love to do that also pays really really well we only live once and it could end at any time and so I've chosen to prioritize doing something that I enjoy over making a lot of money
[00:44:42] that's a totally personal choice there is no wrong answer making loads of money sets you up for your future and allows you to maybe have more fun once you've retired but I don't
[00:44:53] know I'm not totally convinced that this world is going to survive until until I'm retired so I'm living I'm living hard now and there's the potential that this could turn into something
[00:45:05] that makes really decent money but for right now I'm just enjoying getting to hang out with you beautiful bastards four times a week so Juju says thoughts on emac whoops
[00:45:21] great for beginners for those of us that are like FPV 102 FPV 103 they're too heavy and they're I'm not going to say that they're fragile but like when you break them you have to they tie you into their
[00:45:35] e ecosystem so when you break the frame you can only buy their replacement frame you're never going to be able to find a frame that works better for the way that you fly and you crash so again emac
[00:45:45] stuff like great for beginners I started on a plastic a 2.3 in babyhawk toothpick style rig and it was great it was it was good enough to get me started and keep you into the hobby
[00:45:59] but other than that it they you're you're kind of locked in with them which can get a little bit frustrating Kevin James with a $20 Super Chat thank you so much brother very very kind of you no
[00:46:10] no comment just wants to support the absolute Insanity that is trying to make a living on YouTube thank you homie let's fly the air 65 first flat spot away from me and
[00:46:27] we're going to run these on the 300mah batteries first because those are the ones that're charged and right that's looking good I'm going to set this up so I can just
[00:46:37] speed run from one to the other almost got the fly it's one of those big annoying ass flies too that you can never hit because they have 8,000
[00:46:50] little little eyeball dimple things this one's definitely els3 oh wow that's interesting oh where's the where's the thing hold on nothing's working nothing's working hold up what
[00:47:15] where's the hold on hold on I got to unplug and replug come on there we go all right hopefully that'll work why are the goggles being such idiots stop it stop beeping there we
[00:47:46] go okay that's what I got to look at this did go swimming in the dog bowl but it was totally fine yesterday or the day before there we go now we're good that was
[00:47:58] odd all right so you're just gonna beep huh I'm gonna smash you hold up hold up these goggles are being donkey raping [@$#%] eaters okay so do I have another goggle battery or
[00:48:21] what yay okay Teddy relax relax I see you over there getting ready to freak out arm it just so it doesn't get too hot Martin upad says nice undies they are right I got them from Old Navy
[00:48:40] the other day Maggie went wild it was great never underestimate the power of underwear [Laughter] boys all right we're good now H [@$#%]
[00:49:00] zah you guys have video we all have video Teddy fluffy monster he's a fluffy monster he's a fluffy monster fluffy monster fluffy monster dog way
[00:49:27] this is well it might not have completely survived being submerged but let's let's let's give it a little I I hope it didn't oh man all right let me try this let me like
[00:49:59] smack it around a little bit no now it's fine oh nope [@$#%] no oh man come on now I wonder if it's the camera maybe the camera is like the one thing that did didn't get wet though no it's the
[00:50:28] board as soon as I as soon as I tapped the board itself it's did that it went full rainbow ready I'm going to tap the I'm going to tap the board ready board yep
[00:50:45] [@$#%] oh that's a that's a super weird failure if I just push on the board it goes full rainbow spec come on man well let let me fly it around gentle I guess that's not going to
[00:51:06] work oh come on now the the whole point was that we compare these I might take this I also [@$#%] up and showed someone else's video in this stream which is gonna which is going to
[00:51:29] put a notification on their Channel saying somebody else used wow that one hit pretty good and it's fine and a lot of times when that happens people will just click the file
[00:51:42] copyright claim thing and if they do that I will not be able to live stream so I might take this you guys might be watching an exclusive live stream right here cuz I might take it
[00:51:58] down as soon as I finish up here to avoid all that and also because the whole point of the stream is now kind of ruined although we're getting we're getting a little bit of flying in what's
[00:52:11] going to suck those when I inevitably crash this upstairs and have to run up there to go get it but I don't know this is the meter 65 air oh I got lucky well maybe it's okay now maybe
[00:52:30] it's okay now oh I haven't done like a an exclusive stream in a while I haven't done like a patreon only stream in a while so maybe you
[00:52:50] know maybe oh Teddy maybe this is the the universe encouraging me to do that buddy boy seems to be pretty okay now so one of the things that we're going to we're going to really look at between
[00:53:16] these is is efficiency and runtime oh god wow it's totally fine now woo boy okay 2 minutes and 12 as you can see not the best runtime these are relatively fresh batteries too we're
[00:53:38] going to go directly over to the Mobula 6 2024 not completely fresh sorry sorry not brand new batteries but like less than five Cycles on them so pretty
[00:53:57] pretty fresh batteries all right Mobula 6 2024 with some light weening frame swap oh [@$#%] frame swap camera swap canopy swap so it's lighter it's noticeably lighter this is also the first time it's
[00:54:21] had an ort antenna on it notice to be lighter noticeably more power same propellers they're both on 1219 s's let's go upstairs and so doing stuff up here I I just I can blip the throttle for a
[00:54:45] little bit less a little bit less time oh wow how have I never done that how have I never Maddy flip the I guess because it doesn't necessarily make sense oh God what am I doing no no no
[00:55:05] no oh God no yes yeslook at this coffee table we got this coffee table Maggie got this coffee table it must be for ants it's so goddamn low this is this is the height
[00:55:24] of a normal ottoman SL coffee table well here's another one ready oh where did it go where's the white one this is like a normal coffee table height and then there's this weird
[00:55:38] [@$#%] Teemu [@$#%] where it's like tiny it's this tiny it's worthless we got to I got to take it all back apart and then we got to figure out how to send it back it's just so stupid like
[00:55:49] why is it so small who's that for who who sits that low to the ground I guess maybe against like a futon would work my 6 2024 every once in a while we do get a little tiny bit of jello but you
[00:56:10] probably can't see that on the live stream and these are analog rigs so who kind of cares you're never going to win a my footage looks better than yours competition so whatever
[00:56:27] this setup flies fantastic I I I love the way that this camera looks too we don't have that weird Auto white balance going all over the place although there is some
[00:56:36] strange flickering that's happening please don't go in the sink it's under the the broom at the moment this is an interesting situation that I for some reason can't get out
[00:56:51] of look at the run time my friends we are oh boy we are already at 2 minutes and 50 seconds In fairness I was I did spend a bunch of time hovering this looking at showing you guys the
[00:57:12] coffee tables but we are not ready to come home and land yet this thing is just going to keep going and going and going like me on Friday nights that's what she she
[00:57:29] said did she she did you guys saw the shirt you guys saw my power little dog oh god oh boy oh get you some Mobula 6 2024 finally got a low battery warning at 3 and a half minutes it already went
[00:57:51] away we're going to keep going that's the biggest difference between the these two rigs is that the the HappyModel Motors are just like infinitely efficient and they make
[00:58:04] really good power I don't know how they're doing it I my assumption is that they are perfectly optimizing the the the thickness of the windings they're they're getting absolutely like
[00:58:21] the as much copper as possible in the Stater but I don't know that we should have some more information about that sooner than later and that's all I can say about that but
[00:58:36] so that's a big deal right like 2 minutes and 15 seconds versus almost four minutes like that's wild the lower KV version of the air 65 does get more efficiency and if you fly
[00:58:52] a little bit more carefully you can get to 3 minutes with the air6 five but I'm not doing that I'm flying roughly the same between the two of these let me do another battery on this guy and I'm
[00:59:03] going to fly it really hard the whole battery instead of farting around and talking about coffee tables because that like just hovering really helps with with runtime so that
[00:59:16] was a I did way more hovering just now on that battery than the air 65 battery cool so let's do another one well let's do this as well let me see what these batteries bounce back to
[00:59:35] voltage wise here's the battery that I ran on the BetaFPV air 65 it is bounced back to 373 it is now totally cold this one is still warm so it's still going to be bouncing
[00:59:48] back and it's at 368 so that's probably going to go up to 370 see it's already creeping up to 369 so I I pretty much did discharge them down both the same amount jbo 88 with a 10
[01:00:02] Australian dollar Super Chat he says thanks for being you thank you for supporting me being me what do you think of that let's fly this hard like my pants are on fire the entire battery
[01:00:11] and we'll see let me see how low I can get the runtime on the Mobula 6 2024 how about that we'll go upstairs and I'll just Hammer the living hell out of it Teddy spaghetti how can I help you
[01:00:24] sir almost Stevie wondered it almost Stevie wondered it all here we go going upstairs straight upstairs flying hard you can you guys look how good the video looks up here with this micro
[01:00:56] antenna this thing was getting a bunch of static up here with the crappy but Ultra Ultra Ultra lightweight antenna [@$#%] this micro V oh boy there's crash recovery doing its
[01:01:12] thing oh my God that was a hard hit how did it bounce all the way into the kitchen holy hell oh oh whoa okay easy big fella oh God uh-oh we're in the cherry tomatoes we're good all is
[01:01:36] well uhoh easy easy no it went through the railing God was that lucky oh God careful careful get it going get it going get it going do it to the right we did it to the left we got to do it to the right
[01:01:56] try to go under oh it's hard to do it under the fan orbits take a good amount of battery juice they're you're just constantly digging in the throttle to like fly past the object oh boy and it uses up
[01:02:14] more juice than you would think oh [@$#%] I'm gonna have to go get it come on I'm trying to throw it out yes oh my God I can't believe that worked oh my God I'm a
[01:02:28] genius oh I'm not a genius uhoh come on all that stuff doesn't really affect the runtime because I'm constantly arming and disarming and then when I arm it I'm like going full
[01:02:42] thr oh boy oh boy I think I might have knocked the antenna off maybe not oh [@$#%] I thought the couch would move out of the way apparently this is much of a
[01:03:02] more representative battery than the air6 what the air 65 battery that I flew I had to I had to go rescue it too so we got to fly another air 65 battery like I said in
[01:03:14] the beginning I usually got like 3 minutes out of it 2 minutes and 15 was awful low I think that was because of the oh it totally was I had to unplug it a couple times I mean I only flew it
[01:03:23] for like a second before I had to unplug it but still oh [@$#%] and it is fun to fly hard up here oh that was ugly I wanted to turn that into a big stair dive so we are at
[01:03:44] 3 minutes wow these lightweight rigs man like you can just at the last second decide like stop going forward and it's just the immediacy is is outrageous die man you couldn't even see it but I
[01:04:02] did go through there I did go through those Gates ultimate mega power up nope no stop it mega power up oh wow that crash recovery was so cool it kind of triggered twice oh
[01:04:31] stop and there's low battery 3 minutes and 42 seconds all right let's do a fresh 300 on the air 65 hopefully I don't crash in the middle and we'll get a nice little
[01:04:49] runtime comparison fresh 300 here we go BetaFPV meteor 65 meteor air 65 ouch and this antenna is getting hot why is this antenna getting so hot ouch oh boy it's rainbowed like right
[01:05:14] away oh boy we got problems here friends this poor thing I don't think this is long for this world is this antenna still getting really hot oh boy what is
[01:05:33] happening damn it dude this rig flies really good I want to test it but the water just did not do it any favors okay I'm going to be gentle with it and we're just going to start flying
[01:05:46] it this is the same runtime this this production version has gotten a little bit more runtime than the prototypes but it's similar oh God damn you I'll be right
[01:06:07] back man come on Oops stop that hold on let me grab another 300 MH battery I really want to try to get like a full a full battery run dog's name is Teddy spaghetti we call him that because
[01:06:43] he has worms just kidding that's a Fraser joke his his full name is Theodore Barksdale but I call him Teddy spaghetti all right right so meteor 65 air let's do
[01:07:01] it so we're going to add like five seconds to this run time what I mean that's basically what we did we fli up the stairs and that's about 5 Seconds cool wow much darker th this
[01:07:15] camera is way darker I really haven't backto backed these it's still got really decent power not quite as much I don't think and the tune isn't quite as good I still have this on the stockish
[01:07:34] tune I think I've done one or two little tiny adjustments to the tune but nothing drastic the Mobula 6 I have fully retuned like it has a full custom tune on it I mean it's not much of a
[01:07:50] tune but still cool so I'm just going to keep this thing moving I like I'm just going to keep it moving fast up here that's how you really torture a battery it's all about ground speed and so as
[01:08:03] long as I just keep whipping around like this I'm not going to go as nuts because if I crash this hard it's going to go full Rainbow on me but I'm just going to keep it moving around the room
[01:08:14] here oh [@$#%] please please yes oh [@$#%] it's almost like it only goes full rainbow when the battery is fully charged maybe that might make some sense more juice and there's
[01:08:32] like something that's shorting in there because it's might have rusted a little bit right and then there's two contacts that are now a little too close together I don't know I don't know
[01:08:44] electri no all right so that that's a minute and 42 though so call that a minute and 47 I'm going to go get it okay so thus far we are at a minute and 47 minute and 47 here we go
[01:09:25] take right back off let's stop it Teddy let's call it a minute and 50 oh God what am I doing oh God what wny let's call it a minute and 50 cuz we'll we'll give it
[01:09:38] another couple seconds from me running up and down the stairs and then we'll do a lot of the same stuff down here so we're at a minute and 50 oh
[01:09:59] oh God all right so minute 50 let's keep going there's a quick low battery we're going to look for that sustained low battery there's a much more sustained low battery let's give it
[01:10:12] another second though that's it that's it so a minute and 50 plus another 54 so there we go go that's what 240 oh Teddy that's in the shoe so two 240 versus I don't
[01:10:37] remember what the Mobula 6 2024 was when I was flying it hard so there you go three minutes of runtime from the a 65 three and a half to four minutes with the m6 2024 is is basically what
[01:10:51] I'm going to say depends on how hard you fly it yada yada yada what props you put on it all that I am I got to be honest I'm very sad that I destroyed this thing I'm very very sad that
[01:11:05] that water ate it that that blows because it really does fly great and to be able to buy a rig that kind of it doesn't necessarily prevent you
[01:11:20] from it's funny like it doesn't prevent you from upgrading it at all but the fact that the camera and canopy are already plenty lightweight is kind of really nice
[01:11:32] because then it's like oh I don't have to UPG upgrade it what I mean and I mean you don't have to upgrade the Mobula 6 2024 either but you certainly can I'll be super curious how
[01:11:44] this is once I've move well I don't know if I'm going to fully upgrade this now because it's broken and it's probably only going to get worse with the VTX
[01:11:55] um so I will at least pull this apart and get some weights I'm really curious what happens to the all up weight of this when you put it onto the Cockroach light AF frame
[01:12:10] so there's that damn man I can't believe I've had so many rigs get fully submerged and then I dry them out for 24 hours and they're good to go I think the mistake that I made with
[01:12:27] this one is that when I took it out of the dog bowl I didn't unplug it immediately I started shaking all the water off that was that was a dumb thing to do let's go back to the well let me get
[01:12:40] caught up on chat let me get caught up on chat where were we where worry there we go danzel the terrible says a trick question for you I did my first crappy awkward Matty flip today
[01:13:06] what is a good exit move for a matty flip just kind of found myself parked there at the end the trick with the Matty flip let's do it I'll show you we'll talk about it the trick with the
[01:13:19] Matty flip is generating enough backwards momentum that there is something that you can do what happens more often than not with Matty flips is you generate just a tiny
[01:13:31] little bit of backwards momentum and then you do this stupid little like crawl until you see the object and you're like yes I did a matty flip or it stalls out completely and then you're
[01:13:41] just stuck so the key is to have enough momentum going backwards to then be able to do something yaw it around flip it over there there's a couple different things that that you can do it's a
[01:13:54] really really good question let's run some 260 we'll save those we'll do a head to-head with those I'm going to do another 300 Mage battery I'll use a wee bed a beat up older battery here so
[01:14:09] the main key to a mdty flip is when you blip Full Throttle and it's super easy you just do it when you're looking straight up so if you're flying outside it's when your whole view is all Sky
[01:14:25] when you go Full Throttle when your camera is pointing straight up right camera has a little bit of up tilt when the camera is pointing straight up if you go Full Throttle it's going to
[01:14:34] you're going to front flip and then you're going to be dropping altitude and then when your camera is looking straight up right here you go full throttle and it's both going to keep you
[01:14:43] from hitting the ground because you got some thrust going down and then you have a bunch of thrust going forwards so when you see all Sky you go full throttle and it'll give you that backwards momentum
[01:14:52] and it'll also keep you from hitting into the ground and so that's like the main the the main trick but then there it is kind of awkward when once you're going backwards but there are
[01:15:05] some ways out there are some ways to make it look like it was on purpose come on either rest you can do it you can do it come on there it is come on don't give me a timer to arm all right so
[01:15:25] we will practice over here hopefully I don't hit Teddy so we M for [@$#%] sake let me do it upstairs around the fan it's not much of a matty flip but it'll it'll give me more room to kind of
[01:15:42] show you this so we're going to Matty flip the fan so we go up full Sky Full Throttle and that gives us the the backwards momentum one of the one of the easiest things to do is just to rock it
[01:15:54] back forward stay steady on the sticks and then just have it's almost like a rewind I can't do it up there with the fan I don't have enough okay [@$#%] was
[01:16:09] that what is happening why is the video gone to hell did the antenna come unplugged what's happening hold on it'll be better to show you in the simulator but we'll be all right no the
[01:16:24] antenna's fine fine why was the video getting so bad that was weird okay so easy answer to the question is you can y around [@$#%] come on Jesus [@$#%]
[01:16:46] Christ easy dog easy hold on okay great let's try it here see if I have a little more room here Full Throttle and then you rock it right back forward right so that's one of the easiest
[01:17:06] things to do that's what I do with the tiny whoops a lot just cuz it's space limited but there are some other cool things ready let's see if I can get this God damn it see if I can get this
[01:17:15] this will be super cool if I can get this so it's the the next one is going into like a almost like a power Loop right so at the end of it you then pitch back
[01:17:31] you're pitching forward forward forward forward forward forward forward [@$#%] you [@$#%] you stop okay we're going to pretend like we've come through the end of the Matty
[01:17:48] flip and we've caught it and then you can throw it back that's one of my favorites especially if you've got a situation where I mean let me see if I can do
[01:18:02] it right if IID had that lined up left to right properly that would have been dope it would have dropped in there so there's a really cool way that you can kind of link it into something
[01:18:12] else right right into pitch back one of the other ways I don't know if I'll have enough room to do this but we'll give it a shot is well look you can practice all at the
[01:18:27] end of the Matty flip you're going backwards so all you have to do is generate some backwards momentum and you can practice there's yaong it around do that again pretend like we
[01:18:39] might flip through here y around back into it great way to go I just I can't get anything right now so you can YW back around you can also start to do like
[01:18:58] um well you can't really I mean if you roll you're going to have to add a bunch of other [@$#%] in the the the the two main things are going to be yawed around and then throw
[01:19:12] it backwards if you throw it backwards like this then you can add roll in but roll doesn't really work when you're flying backwards right if you fly backwards and then you roll you're still
[01:19:24] flying backwards although I guess you could do that I guess you could as it slows down as it slows down use that roll to kind of rock you into a different direction and or
[01:19:38] just go back forward again just [@$#%] Plinko the other tiny whoop so it's tough it's tough but like I said you can practice it by just going backwards Get Low to the ground fly
[01:19:51] backwards a little bit and just try each different stick orientation right there's only six things that you can do yall left yall right pitch forward pitch back roll left roll right and so just do
[01:20:04] each one of them right and then add a second and this is where it exponentially gets crazier and in but in certain situations there's nothing if you y if you're going backwards and you
[01:20:16] yaw it around there's no other stick movement that's it you then fly away so two of the options are gone yall left yall right pitch back if you pitch it back if you pitch it back and flip it
[01:20:29] like this your Next Movement can be to roll it over one way to roll it over the other way or you can pitch it all the way back right you've pitched back halfway you can pitch back the rest of
[01:20:43] the way and then deal with the momentum and then fly back forwards you can pitch back and then roll out one way roll out the other way flying backwards you can technically pitch forward and now
[01:20:58] it's the same scenario pitch flying backwards pitch forward and you're in the same thing roll out one roll out the other technically you could flip it back and yaw but now you're flying backwards
[01:21:14] inverted and now you have to add a third input maybe you just pitch It Forward maybe you pitch it backwards and you can fly out right so there's that there's there's not a whole hell of a lot you do
[01:21:24] there's that first movement where you're going to go 90° in one no sorry 180° in One Direction and then sometimes there's going to be a second input you could throw a third in but typically
[01:21:39] there's so much going on don't do that like just flip it back do like a big Power Loop or something flip it back and roll out of it or just yaw if you use yaw coming out of it
[01:21:50] you're done you've rolled around and now you're flying forwards again Side Up away you go so great question brother really really good question it's hard the the end of a matty flip you're
[01:22:01] so [@$#%] happy that you didn't destroy everything that you're like wait [@$#%] I got to keep flying and so that's a super common thing to be like Oh wait [@$#%] now what do we do but all
[01:22:14] you got to do is get a little bit of backwards momentum and then you can practice it and the simulator is absolutely beautiful for that JB 88 says sorry for all the
[01:22:25] questions just haven't caught you in live in a few days when going props out to props in do you need to swap the props around as well absolutely yep you need to swap the props around and then
[01:22:35] in the motors tab you need to tell it props out versus props in Jay fente says if you haven't tested the Newbie drone Flo 0702 29,000 KB maybe those I tested those eons ago they're great
[01:22:47] thinking swapping stop sock hummingbird motors for those they're really good they're not as good as the HappyModel 0702 29,000 30,000 28,000 but they're they're pretty good they're
[01:23:00] they're as good as the BetaFPV 72s matter of fact the the BetaFPV 72s might be made by the same company as the Newbie drone 0702 they they have the same height where the propeller sits
[01:23:17] up a little bit higher than the HappyModel Motors and they have about the same run time so it wouldn't surprise me that if if they're made in the same spot I'm not that I have no info on that
[01:23:25] that's totally me just taking a guess Co power says it's dead Jim ster says I don't think it's survived that dog bowl Astra astrom astop there's no p in
[01:23:42] there astroman wow that is hard to say Asal Astro I can't say it Astro just retracted his message render says it's the camera Co power says time to replace the camera nope it is the O it is the a
[01:23:59] IO render says I wonder if there's moisture under one of the chips still but I it's kind of I I wouldn't think that there's moisture in there because there was a fan hammer in this thing for
[01:24:08] 24 full hours I would think that there's a little tiny bit of rust but rust is non-conductive I don't know Co power says let's see if you can rinse it with ISO alcohol could be shoo
[01:24:21] from the water bow still on the board that's a good idea I will try that at the end of the stream notice says could you not remove the audio and talk over it's not about the audio it's
[01:24:33] about the the video I played the video I played somebody else's video on my stream and that always triggers a thing Co power says or is it fine it is unfortunately not ster says before you
[01:24:45] unpluged it did the thing turned all green jbo says any benefit to upgrading antennas on an emac Transporter 2 goggles or is the Range quality restricted by the hardware micro V
[01:24:58] antenna on the way to start will stick with linear antennas upgrading antennas always will give you well if if the if the stock antenna is just like a whip antenna or like nothing
[01:25:10] spectacular then yes upgrading antennas is always a good idea the other thing that's nice about upgrading antennas is you'll be you'll they're for life like you you you upgrade an antenna on those
[01:25:20] goggles if down the road you get fat sharks you can still use the antenna it's still going to be SMA so upgrading antennas is always a good choice that antenna will be with you
[01:25:29] forever until you break it although they're pretty strong antennas on your goggles you're never really going to break so there's there's no get get some good
[01:25:43] antennas it's always helps Asher says your snaz are so cute I won and they're awesome what's his name talked about that he is absolutely adorable boy are they
[01:25:55] a lot though he is I mean he's still a puppy he's only like three I think so hopefully he calms down but apparently from what we've read the breed doesn't necessarily really calm
[01:26:08] down and he's a lot like like Maggie and I just want to be like relaxing on the couch watching a show or a movie or something and he's just like in our faces just like taking his soggy
[01:26:18] disgusting toys and dropping them on us over and over and over again but he's a good dude and he's still a puppy so he'll be fine tedward spaed word Astro with a499 Super Chat thank you so
[01:26:34] much brother danzel the terrible says I had no backwards momentum six packs of mes tomorrow nice it's hard to generate that backwards momentum but it's all about think of it this way when
[01:26:46] you do a Power Loop you gradually increase the throttle until you're full throttle and then you chop the throttle right when you you do a matty flip it's the reverse you wait wait wait wait wait
[01:26:58] wait wait wait wait you Hammer the throttle here and then you gradually reduce the throttle and by hammering the throttle here that's what's going to give you the majority of that rearward momentum you
[01:27:11] also need to kill the forward momentum right like when you come up over the top and you chop the throttle it just keeps traveling forward so you got to wait until here
[01:27:22] to right so you got to have give it a big old blast of throttle don't ease into the throttle like you do on a power Loop hammer it and then ease off of it on a mty flip and then on a power Loop
[01:27:34] you ease into it and you chop it because if you don't chop it you start to drive yourself into the ground so it's the the the throttle application is completely backwards Matty flips versus
[01:27:44] Power Loops which makes sense because they're just reversed right fly in back and around versus fly in around and back right double FPV says what cheap kind of camera can I get for decent overhead
[01:28:06] video on my desktop like your build area setup have you tried it on the Amazon stuff I haven't this is a Logitech c900 or C920 it's okay I I I don't love it I haven't really tried many
[01:28:22] cameras but luckily here on YouTube there's like 110 billion reviews of every single webcam imaginable so one of the really popular things to do is actually use your phone if
[01:28:34] you're on an iPhone they've added some really nice integration to make these really good webcams so if you can find a mounting setup iPhones are some of the best webcams at the
[01:28:47] moment so but I don't I don't really I haven't really tested many webcams unfortunately cbfv says didn't me the hander I was saying I killed a cell on my 6s lipo is it worth
[01:28:58] it to take one more cell to make it a 4S or is it useful as a 5S 5S is is nice sometimes but it's pretty rare I I would either throw the whole thing away because diving into those things and
[01:29:13] removing cells and switching balance leads over can get sketchy fast so personally I would just throw it away lipos are not expensive enough to Warrant like it catch on fire on the
[01:29:24] bench and something bad possibly happening but if it were me I would pull another cell off and make it a 4S strer says thoughts on the 260 MH batteries so far they're good as long
[01:29:36] as it's a very lightweight rig with lower sub3 30,000 KV Motors above 30,000 KV they're no good they sag too much and on heavier rigs you're just not going to get the runtime out of them
[01:29:50] but these new super lightweight 27 28,000 K rigs they're really nice I'm going to run one or two of them in a minute here I'm just let me just get some of
[01:30:02] the hair out of this guy Jesus this thing is disgusting Astro says my schneer is sort of calm but he's three years old ju says do any places that have batteries under 300 M in stock
[01:30:20] BT 2.0 preferably not off the top of my head no but I mean if you just search Google for like two I mean there under 300 is 260 there is no other size so if you Google search 260 ma Mah 1s
[01:30:38] bt2.0 it'll it'll pretty much show you the majority of the of the places that are going to have it but 260 is really the only sub 300mah battery that you're going to find with a
[01:30:52] BT 2.0 cool I'm caught back up again so speaking of let's fly a couple of these 260s let's try the air 65 see how much see how long it'll fly before inevitably
[01:31:15] exploding antenna gets hot maybe because I've remove that ground plane or whatever the hell it is it might not be called I might be calling it the wrong thing
[01:31:31] well all right we're good here we go 260mah battery on the air 65 away we don't go because Els hasn't connected yet come on you got it there it is I hear somebody running around
[01:31:51] upstairs let's see who it is let's investigate let's fly our surveillance drone upstairs there's a Teddy it's just a Teddy oh God no it's fine everything's
[01:32:07] fine oh godo oh These 260mah batteries are a full gram lighter you do not get as much power even when the battery is fresh it's definitely sags worse when you go Full
[01:32:34] Throttle but boy is it floaty I really do like these batteries I don't think I'm going to switch or anything but I like having four of them it's super cool
[01:32:50] to see what these things fly like at one less gram oh [@$#%] oh for [@$#%] sake why can't I just not crash got lucky on that one though oh
[01:33:08] boy oh I got away with murder on that one so we'll see what the what the run time is like on these 260s okay oh boy this batter starting to Sag like crazy
[01:33:31] already oh I just I knocked it over I was about to say I just nipped the lid of the of my little water bottle there it made a funny little noise I doubt you guys could hear
[01:33:45] it oh God I want to get back in there come on ah didn't line it up right see if I can get it trying to do a little combo move this to this oh didn't make it I'm was trying
[01:34:06] to dive the the Newbie drone gate like this that's what I was trying to do but didn't quite get there that's okay all right one low battery warning let's wait for the second
[01:34:19] one or not the second one the constant one there it is that's more constant 3.38 we're coming down 2 minutes and 32 seconds and now we're going to put that it waited for rainbow mode until The
[01:34:33] Bitter End thank you for that air 65 and now we're going to go straight over to the Mobula 6 20124 upgraded and we will see what's what there's the dog's ass you
[01:34:48] couldn't see he turned around already he was very self-conscious what's up fly zone here we go my 6 2024 with made upgrades oh boy this is going well okay it's fine we're
[01:35:09] fine more power for sure that that whole thing there was me adjusting to more power lower hover Point too which comes from more power one of the one of the things more power does is
[01:35:24] it lowers the hover Point much brighter camera th this runam Nano 3 is doing a I mean like look up here right like I can actually see where I'm going up here the CO3 camera with the beta 65
[01:35:39] is is like just dark dark dark dark up up in the upstairs in the little Loft area my God Maggie bought such a cool [@$#%] house here seriously what the hell oh boy all right trying to fly roughly
[01:36:00] the same I think it was I don't know when I don't know where the battery was that I came downstairs but probably we probably want to come downstairs soon I think
[01:36:13] right woo it's probably about about time come down so I mean there you go right like how do we get out of a matty flip that that's a matty flip there and
[01:36:30] like when space is limited it's I tend to just rock it right back forward you have to rock it back forward like on purpose though it can't be like accidental right like if you're
[01:36:42] going to if you're going to send it back forward you want to do it with like a little throttle blip in the same way that you would do a rewind [@$#%]
[01:36:54] fu stop it oh come on that was unbelievably awkward see what I mean like basically when it when it stops when when you rock it back forward the the moment that it
[01:37:19] freezes and it's no longer traveling backwards or forwards that's when when you want to give it a little hit of throttle so that so it doesn't look like you're just not doing anything you want
[01:37:32] to do something Jesus Christ come on man why do you hate me I just wanted to get it out of there oh wow that that was I hate you I you [@$#%] [@$#%] come
[01:38:07] on let me out of here I agree Teddy I agree battery ever going to die what the hell oh my God I missed it ah oh God no I'm G to have to go get that oh my God I can't believe I got it
[01:38:42] out of there absolutely outrageous runtime right now 337 Jesus a full extra minute of runtime good amount of that's coming from the weight let me weigh these two let me let
[01:39:02] me weigh these two guys that's a lot of runtime for a 260 MH battery that is it is lighter this rig is lighter than the air 65 but that's also down to the motors the the HappyModel Motors
[01:39:17] are magical in terms of power and efficiency as we continue to talk about air 65 with the lighter weight antenna is wow it's down into the 16 6.87 G
[01:39:52] 16.85% was a really good test I'm really glad that we did the test this way so that's pretty cool I dig it let me get caught back up on Chad Mark G says started whoops
[01:40:10] following your Ultimate Freestyle build then upgraded Motors to BetaFPV 072 30,000 re reignited my love for FPV thanks man you're certainly welcome brother me too to some
[01:40:22] extent having tiny whoops that rip like this inside the house is really really cool it's just so good it's just so goddamn good to be able to fly hard and practice like the full threedimensional
[01:40:39] moves right that we do outside inside the house it's just that's so [@$#%] cool not having to always go into the simulator is really really nice and for it to be this challenging is
[01:40:52] also super fun because it makes you like early days of the hobby one of the really exciting things is how goddamn difficult it was and this is that right oh man it is
[01:41:06] just all about rainbow mode oh boy it seems to really not like when the batteries are fully charged oh is it all the way dead now oh uhoh uhoh no
[01:41:42] bastard come on no I think it's all the way dead my friends oh y I believe that's all she wrote that's a shame 100% my fault too maybe nope as soon as I move it damn all right well let's fly another
[01:42:17] 260 on the my we've already done an awful lot of flying you guys want to see me fly fly anymore what else can I do for the last 10 or so minutes fart should I just fart for 10 minutes
[01:42:35] straight oh I know what I want to do I want to weigh the the little risers that come with the meteor 65 airf Frame that's a good thing to do let's do that we'll weigh the
[01:42:48] Riser risers and kind of talk about them real quick here somebody asked me another question we'll do Q&A till the end so I don't know look we are spoiled rotten for choices
[01:43:10] right now in Ultra lightweight tiny whoops we're very lucky to have two different options Mobula 6 2024 I think realistically is better for some somebody trying to that's going to
[01:43:25] plan on upgrading especially because you can get it with motor plugs nowadays the version two Mobula 6 2024 has motor plugs and that's a big deal so and that makes the distinction between these two really
[01:43:45] really simple if you want to tweak it if you want to mod it if you want to upgrade it Mobula 6 2024 version 2 if you want to have something that's great right out of the box and you can
[01:43:59] just leave it the hell alone BetaFPV air 65 can you upgrade the air 65 of course but I don't think it makes as much sense to because the camera and canopy are already as light as the
[01:44:15] upgraded one for the Mobula 6 the frame is about as light as it's going to get and it's a good mix for these motors so this is a much better choice for not upgrading it the little risers
[01:44:27] are .12 gram I know that doesn't sound like a lot but it is that's a significant amount of weight that's also a significant amount of weight to add to the ends of the arms so don't do
[01:44:39] that if you're going to run HappyModel Motors use the newbie drone light AF frame in my opinion this is the best of the tiny whoop frames at the moment and so why would you not use that the
[01:44:55] next question might be what is a fully upgraded well this thing is blown up so let's take it apart yeah let's take this apart and we can weigh the stuff oh oh oh I have I have
[01:45:17] one of these frames here let's see oh my God hold on I have one of these frames we'll see what this Frame weighs compared to the light AF 2.61 grams for the air 65 Frame and
[01:45:40] then the light AF frame I'm pretty sure it's lighter 2.4 grams but here's the thing SO2 of a gram difference in the frames El but the light AF you're going to use the really
[01:45:57] short motor screws and that's going to make it even lighter so the Plastics themselves the light AF is 02 of a grams lighter I wouldn't be surprised if you saved another2 of a gram if not. three
[01:46:13] from the shorter Hardware because the motor mount bases on the light AF frame and the Cockroach 65 V3 frame are much thinner the the air 65 Frame has the regular like thickish motor mount bases
[01:46:29] so you're going to save I'm going to say. 3 to 0.5 of a gram by going to the light AF frame on the air 65 so if you buy an air 65 and you do choose to upgrade it I don't know how
[01:46:47] much lighter the HappyModel Motors might be we can check that too let me take this thing apart as quick as I possibly can and I will desolder one of the motors I mean this
[01:47:05] thing has to come apart anyway because it's broken I will desolder one of the motors and we'll weigh the motors I think the BetaFPV Motors are lighter though actually now that I think about
[01:47:17] it I believe they might be I believe that's one of their little claims to fame is that they're 0 72s are a bit lighter not many people switch to their 0 72s though because they've been out for a
[01:47:30] while not many people switched because they they're not as efficient because of the the the differences in runtime that we've been seeing tonight but let's
[01:47:44] take a real quick look here if I pull let me turn on the soldering iron here so I've got a HappyModel nope that's an 0603 here's one here's an 0702 let me just pull this prop off of it this is a
[01:48:01] 36,000 KV but it doesn't matter they're all the same weight well could be different weights they should be the they should all be the same weight but it depends on the
[01:48:12] thickness of the windings so this isn't a perfect comparison but still a comparison nonetheless okay this has to come apart so let's pull one of these motors and W soldering iron stinks why
[01:48:37] does it stink so bad all right motor pull the propeller and let's get this desoldered real quick I don't have to do a good job with this because this aiio is blown
[01:48:58] up there we go okay BetaFPV air 65072 with no motor plug is one wow it's really light 1.31 gram versus HappyModel 072 with the motor plug 1.45 that's not nearly as much of a
[01:49:27] difference as I thought 1.45 versus 1.30 1.31 so but you would cut the connector off right and at that point I bet you these motors would weigh exactly the same
[01:49:47] amount so I think what that means is if you fully upgr well what that means is if you fully upgrade an air 65 extra lightweight antenna there's the extra
[01:50:07] motor Here's the the the canopy screws okay so with the lightweight antenna the air 65 comes down to 16.85% minimum point4 of a gram by switching the frame and then you switch the motors
[01:50:28] and that that's going to be a wash so in theory the fully upgraded air 65 could potentially be 16.3 gram which is pretty much exactly what this was before I added the the ort antenna so that's not
[01:50:47] surprising at all and what that means is get the a65 if you don't want to fully upgrade it get the meteor the Mobula 6 2024 if you want to fully upgrade it or it means get whichever one you want it
[01:51:12] doesn't really matter nearly as much as as you'd think the the if the cameras you guys got to see both cameras tonight the the Mobula 6 2024 had a bit of a rough start
[01:51:26] when it first came out there were a bunch that people were complaining about reliability that really has kind of gone away I think maybe they had a bad run at first or something or
[01:51:36] maybe they just shipped a ton of them at once and when you ship a ton of something at once there's going to be a bunch that fail out of the box I don't know I've talked to a whole bunch
[01:51:45] of people that have got a bunch of Mobula 6 202 24s that they're 50 100 200 batteries into and they're holding up totally fine mine have been completely bulletproof so I don't think and the
[01:51:56] the air 65 just came out so we have absolutely no idea what the reliability is going to be like the prototypes held up pretty well but there were some problems there as well so I
[01:52:07] don't think reliability is going to be a determining factor I think you're pretty safe getting either one I personally I think I like the Mobula 6 2024 better especially because the the current
[01:52:28] generation has the motor plugs and that's just going to make you not pull your hair out but it's not that hard to solder these motors up and it's good practice and it'll teach you how to
[01:52:40] solder and get you better at soldering and that's okay there's nothing wrong with that so there you go my friends there's an upgrade path for the meteor 65 there's what
[01:52:52] it'll weigh it's basically going to weigh exactly the same as a this is I'm really happy actually I'm really happy that the weights ended up this way and it doesn't surprise me that the
[01:53:03] weights ended up this way the Mobula 6 2024 they've put everything on the AIO and they Shrunk The aiio down a little bit in the corners you see how there's a little bit of a gap in the right here
[01:53:15] and then down here and up here and over here right so they they eliminated a little bit of AO material to make the AO a little bit lighter than the 2g4 beta
[01:53:28] FPV really cut down the size of the AIO by cutting this whole front part off but then they put the receiver on an external board here and so the extra weight that they've saved by cutting the
[01:53:42] AIO up here they've put right back into this external receiver and it's actually really really nice that the weights even out between each one of them doing that I was kind of hoping
[01:53:53] that the air 65 we would be able to get down below 16 gram without doing all kinds of silly [@$#%] but it's not super surprising that we can't because they're they're putting all the same
[01:54:05] components on these they're just kind of moving them around a little bit so that's kind of cool the New Gen of tiny whoops you can get them down to 16 and a half grams with not major
[01:54:19] sacrifices and still have them be very durable that's pretty cool last couple of questions and then we're going to shut this mother down it is exactly midnight right now
[01:54:31] Andrew Taylor says found some guys who drive RC drift cars hell I have a Mobula 6 2024 with a ball sack canopy and GemFan VI blades what is this a good setup for chasing them absolutely
[01:54:42] but for your first two or 300 batteries your setup isn't going to matter it's all stick time get your throttle Expo absolutely dialed in perfectly and just go put the time in
[01:54:55] bring as many batteries as you can and bring a w charging them and fly back to back to back to back batteries get there when they get there and leave when they leave like take the whole amount of time
[01:55:08] and just [@$#%] just brute force your muscle memory because boy is it tough but when you get good at it's is so rewarding so don't focus on your setup the Mobula 6 2024 is great it's
[01:55:23] nice and lightweight just focus on on Stick time and getting your throttle Expo absolutely nailed down Juju says what size drill bit do you need for the Cockroach light AF it is
[01:55:36] 964 but you should have a drill bit set and then you just grab the one that's a little bit too just step it up but 964th so I'm pretty sure is the is the right one you only need to
[01:55:49] here's the thing you only need to open the hole up the tiniest little bit so whatever drill bit just barely doesn't fit that's the one that you want as the name of my sex tape Juju says
[01:55:59] what size screws are the shorter ones I don't know what you mean tell me more Justin Bates says any thoughts on the a75 I have a Mobula 6 2024 I'm looking to get a 75 Mill rig for more
[01:56:09] out there flying I I I've forgotten to look at the air 75 I think I know what it is but let's take a look so I assume that this is the air 75 frame and that's the frame that I use
[01:56:32] on my WalkSnail 1S rig so we've seen that frame before what I'm assuming it's the same AIO 21 Grams that's pretty light it's the same camera and canopy what motors 0802 23,000 KV Motors that's
[01:56:59] that's all right I wish they were 25 but that's getting there those Motors are okay it's probably really good it's probably really good the motors are going to be direct
[01:57:14] soldered okay so here you go here it is same exact scenario if you want a 7 5 mm Jungle Gym Basher and you don't want to mod it or upgrade it air 75 if you want to upgrade and mod a 75mm jungle
[01:57:34] gy Basher Mobula 7 elrs 1S it's going to have motor plugs you can swap on the igal motors for 27,000 KV which is going to make significantly more power than this you could the the the Mobula 7
[01:57:51] V4 frame is great it's 1 gram heavier than this but you're going to have more power so the Mobula 7 Full Tilt build is going to be is going to be a little bit heavier but a little bit more
[01:58:07] powerful and for outdoor stuff that might that's probably going to be a better deal than than lighter and less powerful let me weigh the Jungle Gym Basher this is with a very heavy antenna
[01:58:25] this is a full whip antenna so this thing will lose like a half a gram I think I'm going to subtract that so this is 23.8 once I swap the antenna this would Pro probably be
[01:58:37] 23.3 and then they're saying that this guy is what worries me is that they just say 21 Grams I doubt that it's 21.0 gram it's probably like 21 gram in change oh no there we go 21.0 they
[01:58:52] called that the .0 so 23.3 21 so 2.3 extra G but again it's going to make more power it's going to have motor plugs which make motor swaps a lot easier for a jungle gym Basher you're
[01:59:07] going to beat the [@$#%] out of it so I I personally I would lean towards the Mobula 7 build for the easier motor swaps and the more sort of modability to it but I bet you the air 75 is great
[01:59:22] I bet you it flies great also I'll bet you it's going to be the same deal I'll bet their Motors are not going to be quite as efficient as these HappyModel 0802 27,000 KB Motors these
[01:59:35] igal motors are not always available so you might today you might not be able to build this the air 75 you can probably just order they're probably both going to be absolutely
[01:59:47] fantastic I I don't think you'll be disappointed with either one but for me it's going to be the HappyModel rig for the motor plugs and a little bit better sort of modability the
[01:59:59] camera also plugs in on this so you can swap cameras a little bit easier if you can find a camera with the same plug which you won't be able to Juju says the shorter screws for
[02:00:11] the motors on the Cockroach light AF frame oh I don't know what size they are but they come with the frame so you don't you don't need to know what size they are you'll when you buy the
[02:00:21] frame you'll get them Justin Bates with the last question on the live stream he says it looks mostly the same but they listed you as a beta flyer so I wanted to know if it was decent did they
[02:00:31] really ah they did and they spelled my name wrong what the hell qu oh they put a link tell me they didn't link to wow look at them they linked to my [@$#%] YouTube that's very
[02:00:45] cool of them they didn't send me the a75 but they did send me the the 65 which is very very cool of them there you go my friends I hope you enjoyed I'm very sad that I destroyed
[02:01:01] the the air 65 by crashing it into the food bowl into the dogs water bowl rather but that's tiny whooping man the the the sink and your animals water bowls are lava and sometimes you
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