

[00:02:23] hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti welcome to whoop Wednesday I'm going to be going old school and revisiting my roots with an emac rig tonight for those of you
[00:02:38] that don't know the very first FPV rig that got this whole journey started was the emac baby hawk the original white plastic basically a toothpick it's this really if you if you want to go all
[00:02:51] the way back I feel like it was one of the very first BNF's that was toothpick formula Cameron in the middle spindly little arms I think it was a 2.3 in propeller but
[00:03:06] still it had that like toothpick look to it right with the with the central canopy Central Camera no I guess the the maybe there was something before it I'm not sure but it was an early days
[00:03:19] like toothpick style rig emac contacted me a while ago it's been way too long for me to have not done this by now so I apologize for that but they they they reached
[00:03:34] out to me and said we got any interest in trying a couple of our B and flies I said absolutely I owe you guys a lot for getting me into this hobby and making the madness happen and so they
[00:03:47] sent me the tiny Hawk 3 plus and they also sent me the the 3 plus h it's not actually the HD this is the analog version but the freestyle the tiny Hawk freestyle I don't know why
[00:04:04] it says HD there it's not it's the regular analog rig and so that's an outdoor rig I'm not even going to bother to try to fly it in the house that would be absolutely absurd like it's
[00:04:14] it's insane enough that we're flying 75mm rigs in the house this is a either a two or two and a half inch rig regardless no prop cards we we're not we're not railing that around in the
[00:04:25] house but this guy we are going to and get it set up see what that's like take a look at the tune probably tune it up a little bit better than the stock tune I'm assuming it's
[00:04:38] going to be a little bit soft and then will it rip will it rip it's on ph 2.0 so it's not off to a good start but the batteries are huge they're 650mah it's going to be the this will be
[00:04:54] interesting this is you guys think these 75 MIM rigs are heavy this is this is going to be heavy to try to fly super technically in the house but we'll see and what I'm kind of looking
[00:05:07] forward to is like hopefully proving that you don't have to have like the most pumped up insane rig to have fun around the house you just have to fly a million batteries
[00:05:21] we'll see we will see if if what I'm able to do with this I'm actually really looking forward to it so that's the plan for tonight my friends it comes in an awesome little case
[00:05:35] custom cut foam some slots for some extra stuff here they give you a nice little charger with it's is pH 2.0 like I mentioned oh that's cool the charger has
[00:05:48] balance that's actually really nice I don't have any Chargers that will charge just through the balance leads this is actually really nice to have come to think of it so
[00:06:02] balance leads for 2S and then pH 2.0 for 1S a couple little switches to switch it from high volt to regular I've got the batteries that it came with on the the the wopster
[00:06:14] over here banging away I'm sorry but this is just this is the cutest thing I've ever seen they usually give you those those big silly screwdrivers that you throw away
[00:06:30] but I ain't throwing this one away look at this little guy look at this look how satisfying that is I've never SE it's just like a full-size screwdriver but then shrunken down boy
[00:06:43] is that a weird thing to get so excited about that's just terrific oh I got the wrong camera on that's I love that I don't know why I love that so much I'm going to use that man that
[00:06:57] thing is sitting on my desk is going to be sitting on my desk they give you a couple of extra white rubber bands for the for the battery tray which we'll look at and what else I forgot to
[00:07:09] pop the chat out hang on top chat to live chat let's get it here there we go all right cool pause this as well all right and then it looks like a bunch of extra screws couple of little extra rubber
[00:07:27] grommets in here the deal with with BNF's they always come with a little package of stuff the the case of course has this cool little spot up top here where you can throw
[00:07:36] your extra stuff some stickers oh that's cool I put a sticker over it but it's got a warning props in props in they have it set up for props in that's pretty cool this kind of thing is
[00:07:54] really important for new people I remember I remember taking every time I would take propellers off I would take a picture cuz I was terrified that I wouldn't like I remember looking at it
[00:08:07] and being like what is this cockamamy [@$#%] this propeller is this way this other one is this way I didn't really take the time to look at it and just be like clockwise well it would be
[00:08:18] counterclockwise clockwise clockwise counter I just I don't know I just didn't I would take pictures of it every time so that I didn't put the propellers back on wrong
[00:08:28] so stupid little pieces of paper that say warning propellers or props in that actually really helps with the numbers with the motor numbers on them QR codes for the manuals of
[00:08:40] course disclaimer precautions again important stuff for absolutely brand new people and an extra set of propellers which is great because these are specific propellers these
[00:08:56] are 802s flipped upside down and then the propeller like encases the motor it's a really odd kind of setup that admittedly I don't love but when you have the there there is some value in
[00:09:13] like with a beginner product setting it up so that like you have to get the specific Parts I again I don't love it I would rather a build be like Universal so that you can grow with it and whatnot
[00:09:28] but what's nice about setting something up like this is that you force people to buy the parts from you and it makes it a lot easier for a very first rig if the only set of propellers you have to get
[00:09:41] are this specific set of propellers that prevent you from getting a completely wrong prop that won't work or will destroy the performance of it so there there is a school of thought where
[00:09:53] on int more intro rigs you kind of lock it down you run a wacky motor you run a wacky propeller the frame is kind of specific the AO is is not regularly sized and then
[00:10:06] you know the replacement parts come from one place there's only one replacement part and it is what it is again I I I I would I steer people towards like Mobula 6es and now the BetaFPV air
[00:10:21] 65 for like a first rig so that again they can grow with it they can upgrade it but those are people that have already found me right like if you haven't found Joshua or me or
[00:10:33] somebody that that can give you all the information that you're going to need when you're starting this hobby if you're just in it all on your own like I was way back when it was
[00:10:44] actually really nice that there weren't a ton of options that kept me from getting overwhelmed and so there it's a different school of thought but there's nothing wrong with with setting
[00:10:53] it up like this emex has chosen to do it nothing against them let's get it set up my friends camera is here let me grab this oh God what's
[00:11:05] happening let me grab this guy we'll take a look at the the actual build itself little camera here which I've cranked these screws down so it doesn't slip on me and
[00:11:17] I've got it set up pretty low camera angle but you can actually put tons of camera angle on this they're doing this Pusher style here with the the supports on top apparently this is
[00:11:28] pretty tough and then on the bottom you can kind of see this is probably the VTX here on the bottom and then the AIO is up in there here are the little white rubber bands that are going to
[00:11:40] hold the battery in pH 2.0 with an itty bitty little capacitor on it everything looks nice and clean there's the antenna coming up through little hole peeking up the top there USBC
[00:11:51] hanging out the top as well there's your motor plugs looks like 1 two 3 four screws to pop this this top canopy thing off we're not going to take it apart there's no real reason and there's the
[00:12:03] way the propellers kind of encase the little 802 Motors I actually I don't know anything about these motors let's take a look on their website real quick I made it a point to pull it up
[00:12:18] here and so where we at improved VTX HD FPV I don't know about that why do they keep saying HD FPV I don't know why they're saying HD where are the
[00:12:41] specs no huh wow they're not giving me any info on KV or that's admittedly a little bit frustrating let's see if we can find it on another website
[00:12:59] let's just search YouTube for this and in theory it'll find it somewhere else Ready Made RC what do you got for me you going to tell me what it is you going to tell me the things I
[00:13:10] want to know you are 35.5 grams wow also it's a 1.6 inch prop 1.6 inch quad blade oh okay so they make it with they make it with hd0 but that's not that's not this one
[00:13:28] at the the time I didn't have HD zero goggles so I told them to send me the analog version so they sent me the analog one here we go 802 whoa 15,000 KV okay this is going to
[00:13:41] be a challenge that is a super low KV yikes okay VTX we don't care about because we have a different version flight controllers an F4 6 ampcs BL s oh looks like it'll take 2 s very cool
[00:13:59] maybe that's why they chose this KV so that you can run it up on 2S you would need to change the battery lead to run it on 2S that's really all we need to know wheelbase is 76 millim close enough 75
[00:14:12] 76 so there you go wow 15,000 KV motor that's incredibly low nice that it's an 802 though so this is going to be this is going to be interesting it's heavy and it's very
[00:14:24] low KV let's get it into BetaFlight and start farting around with it actually instead of doing that not not applicable was first in the chat Northern Tier notice Curtis Hayes Frank
[00:14:38] Nicholas MC MCAS sleepy CBR jbo 88 Andrew Taylor Walter vanen or James REI Curtis Hayes again 6x1 FPV notice 661 Walter safe Zone sleepy CBR James Rey again not doing good not
[00:14:55] repeating people tonight Kevin Sumer Cloud Hopper jbo again we're going to leave it there if you want Denzel the terrible 16bit Winder if you want the gly man to say
[00:15:11] your name say something in chat tag me type cfpv into your chat comment and man we got our Co booster shots today my arm is hurting it's not black and blue or anything though so I'm fine
[00:15:24] type c FPV in your comment if you want me to read it or do a super chat if you want to support the insanity that is trying to do FPV full-time it's ridiculous I don't necessarily recommend
[00:15:34] it but man what a crazy ride it's been all right do I need this product page up anymore I think we're good C fv.com is where you can support me do it click all the buttons James Rey
[00:15:52] tagged me and said increase flight time by twisting the pH 2.0 posts ever so slightly that the corners seat better what increase flight time by twisting the pH 2.0
[00:16:14] posts twisting is that a thing you're [@$#%] with me are you I know this game I know this game Curtis a says I it's like those tiny pickles what what's like those what
[00:16:35] tiny pickles what tiny pickles jbo 888 says was not expecting for you to say 54 hover point was bad Mobula 6 2024 ball sack canopy RunCam 3 stock frame and Motors broke motor wies so
[00:16:50] haven't turned off throttle Expo to test gotcha 54 hover point is is awful High you usually want to be down towards 30% or so Walter says good job jbo also
[00:17:04] says I wish I found you earlier started em ready to go kit and have now upgraded everything but the goggles yet still has been fun nonetheless it's really hard like starting with
[00:17:16] something like this that kind of locks you into their ecosystem like on one hand it's kind of annoying because you're going to outgrow it and you're probably not going to fly it again but
[00:17:27] like getting it's going to be so rare that you somehow manage to have your very first rig that you buy be something that you can actually upgrade and stick with
[00:17:40] for a while because like you're not going to like go trolling all these internet people and find one that has lots of good info and can guide you down that path right like you're going
[00:17:50] to just buy something and so it's probably I I I well here has did has has anyone in the chat flown the very first rig that they bought ever again like has did has
[00:18:10] anybody in the chat actually managed for their very first rig to buy something that they could upgrade and run for a year two years it's I think it's super uncommon I think it's and it's
[00:18:26] almost a right of passage right and people ask all the time like oh was what was your first rig and if it's like I'm still flying my first rig it's kind of like oh well [@$#%] you like get
[00:18:38] on team wasted our money on the first rig but it's you're not wasting your money you're get something you're getting something that's going to get you started and you're so bad
[00:18:47] when you start that it's I really don't think it matters and so I I I feel like 99% of people the the first thing that they build like it just up on the shelf or in a box or whatever and
[00:19:00] collecting dust but what it's a super cool story that you can tell and it's one over there like for me it's like this was my very first 5-in build I haven't flown
[00:19:10] it in forever I I I'll fly it like maybe once every two years as like a joke but it's awesome that it sits there you got a cool little wall piece it gives you that
[00:19:23] Nostalgia and I will say this when I fly that rig it reminds me of how far we've come and that there's something cool about that there's something cool about like going back and flying your first ever
[00:19:35] rig and being like wow this thing was awful I'm really I'm way better at building the tech has come really far what I mean I'm sure there's a bunch of other reasons but so jbo
[00:19:47] man welcome to the club you're you're in the in the majority where your your first rig is going to collect a bunch of dust but it's a cool story to tell 661 says because the HD version
[00:20:00] is HD there we go that's why they call it HD jb8 says I will be impressed to see you flip and roll the tiny Hawk I cannot oh my god really am I really not even going to be
[00:20:14] able to flip and roll it oh boy okay dingles says are we going to rip it on 1S and 2S it's not it doesn't have a battery connector for 2S and I'm not going to tear this thing apart and do
[00:20:27] that so it's going to be 1S only the batteries are are on the charger now Slackers FPV says did you get your hands on an air 75 yet I did not and I probably won't I I'm not going to
[00:20:42] buy a BNF the oh oh oh the tiny screwdriver is like tiny pickles love it I'm not going to buy one and they they didn't send me one and I'm not necessarily going to go
[00:20:56] back to them and say like can you send me one like if companies want to send me like if companies reach out to me and say like can you review this product or can you help us with this
[00:21:04] product like I'm great but I don't like go to them and solicit the stuff because I don't know it just feels weird and I'm not it takes me a long time to like actually review them a lot of
[00:21:16] times and I don't know and I've I'm just super backlogged I have like 10,000 other things going on jbo says since buying the Mobula 6 I've flown the tiny Hawk once just
[00:21:29] I'm not going to read that last part because it's mean Bren Anderson says thanks to UV rocking the firsty Mobula 6 there you go so it does happen it does happen but it is it is exceedingly rare
[00:21:41] Andrew Taylor says no first rig found its new home in a tall tree just yesterday tiny Hawk 3 freestyle analog got it because it would have been a cool one to keep around eventually it will
[00:21:52] fall out so whatever that tall tree that it's in check down below that Tall Tree as often as you can eventually the wind will actually knock it out of there it's happens to everyone I've had people
[00:22:02] that have found them like two years later that eventually do fall out of the trees or just cut that [@$#%] down jbo with a 10 Australian dollar Super Chat he says I have faith in you
[00:22:14] I have faith you'll do some tricks thank you brother thank you for the support very cool of you cool I'm caught up on chat let's get this thing plugged into BetaFlight and see what
[00:22:22] happens man I have not this is like technically the air 65s were BNF's but like this is a BNF this is like a BNF I'm I have not seen like a proper beginner
[00:22:40] binding fly in a while this should be interesting to see what the what the deal is James Rey just really taking it up a notch in chat come on Madea flight open you bastard open
[00:23:01] wow lately BetaFlight takes forever to open although not all the time just just when I need it to open quickly it takes forever come on man there it goes okay here we go so I should have probably
[00:23:15] tried to bind it to the transmitter first but Left Right all okay great so that's all set up ports tab oh it's got smart audio that's very cool dig that th2 th3 plus there oh
[00:23:33] my God pit Loop is on 8K I'm going to take that down to 4K because this is an F4 and the CPU load is all the way up at 63% so I'm going to drop it down to
[00:23:44] 4K air mode is permanently on OSD is on great dshot beeper I'll just turn that switch on there all right save and reboot s CBR says try to restrain Your Enthusiasm LOL fra diglas says as a
[00:24:02] bind and fly why not just put it in the air first then set rates Etc I don't know because it's me CM K saysWTF emx spinoff flight emx was cool enough to send me a couple of binden flies a while back
[00:24:16] and they've just been sitting here and they actually kind of got buried a little bit which is really why I forgot about him last week I was digging around down there I'm like oh
[00:24:26] man I'm the worst and so I put them on the other side of the desk and it was a perfect chance to check them out Martin tanley says is there any way to calculate motor amp output draw
[00:24:38] from OSD if the motors I purchased were from China and didn't have an amp draw at 100% sort of I mean put the the amp OSD element and that'll give you somewhat of an idea if the if the aiio is calibrated
[00:24:57] properly which is the hard part so it's tough but you can just turn on the amp readings in the OSD and that'll usually give you some idea 661 says my first quad was a brushed F
[00:25:08] Fly Sky tiny whoop Isen eo10 float for many years until one day the dog Ator ate it liter oh my God literally swallowed the entire thing Jesus Christ all right let's get hooked back
[00:25:21] up to BetaFlight I will change as little as possible so that you guys get like the damn near Stone stock flight characteristics and then I'll start screwing around with stuff I am
[00:25:34] going to change a couple little things here and there though that don't really affect the flight performance all that much all right so we went through that power and Battery let's take a
[00:25:46] look Yep looks to be about right I'll say if I just took a look at presets we're going to leave alone pin tune this should be whoa look holy hell okay so they've gone incredibly aggressive on the pit
[00:26:03] tune probably because the motors are 15,000 KV it's on 1S and it's very heavy so this is how you use the pit tune as like a Band-Aid for a Powertrain and or an all up weight that are not
[00:26:21] able to get you great performance so this should be interesting I I I'm not going to be able to tune this much I'm probably going to end up just maxing out the tracking slider and the master
[00:26:33] multiplier if if it's got enough headro in the tune they've got the dynamic damping turned way down I'm definitely going to pump this up quite a bit but for right now I'm going to leave
[00:26:44] this stuff alone everything else looks about right wow look at them they've got the iterm relax turned the cut off turned all the way down to five that's actually kind of great somebody knows
[00:26:58] what they're doing over there thrust linearization is up on 25% vbat sag compensations turned all the way up okay they had somebody that knows what they're doing to in this oh my God
[00:27:10] it's on BetaFlight [Laughter] rates old school I have no idea what these rates are going to be like 500 Degrees a second though so they won't be that off from what I'm used to oh my God
[00:27:24] and they've got they've got throttle throttle Expo turned on and they have a lot of it Jesusokay look at emac they've been watching the live streams probably not throttle mid is is 50%
[00:27:39] though we'll we'll see about that and but tons of throttle Expo jeez let's take a look at the filters oh boy they've oh this is a weird filtering profile oh this is super weird why do
[00:27:55] they have so much gyro filtering tons and tons and tons of Gyro oh they're not using RPM filtering okay so they're relying on three Dynamic notches that's
[00:28:06] interesting wow that's super strange to have this much gyro gyro filtering we're going to leave it alone for right now Express lrx SPI built in okay oh look at that wow it set up teer out of
[00:28:21] the box that's man the weird things keep on coming okay so I don't have to change that I mean I'm going to just fix this because whatever it's not going to make much of a difference I'm just going to
[00:28:35] add a little bit of deadband because this is going to cover up my transmitter being a little old okay so that again that that doesn't really change anything let's take a look at the modes arm is
[00:28:46] on Ox one great angle and Horizon are on Ox 2 I'm going to turn off angle mode it's just I'm just not interested in it and I'm going to take Horizon mode for aux 2 up to where I normally put it
[00:28:59] beeper is on aux 4 I need to change that to aux 3 switch position is correct though flip over after crashes on aux 3 but I need to put it in the middle so we'll do that
[00:29:14] and that's it launch control nah I don't I won't bother turn that on okay so the modes are pretty pretty dialed in adjustments we're not going to mess around with we'll leave the OSD on it's
[00:29:26] fine dshot 300 not surprising bidirectional dshot I I bet you this is still on BL s maybe we'll get this onto not maybe we'll definitely get this on to see if we can get it on to Blue Jay and then
[00:29:41] and then maybe we'll turn on B directional dshot I mean why not props in okay OSD let's see what their OSD setup is pretty standard stuff I'm going to
[00:29:55] put my no I'll leave this OSD it's fine it's fine let me add let me add no no we'll leave it alone it's fine it's fine video transmitter it's set for raceband 4 I'm going to crank that up to
[00:30:17] raceband 8 I'm going to leave it on 25 Ms I am going to turn on low power disarm and save it all right well leave everything else alone cool let's see if it'll bind I'm going to
[00:30:34] assume that I can do the plug it in unplug it three times thing I don't know what version of elrs it's on 2 something or 3 point something critis a says what does B directional
[00:30:50] dshot give you on a tiny whoop same thing it gives you on every other rig is the best possible filtering bidirectional dshot allows you to run PM filtering which is the first filtering
[00:31:01] that we've ever had that's specific for quads all other filtering that we've ever had is audio filtering and these are not speakers so bidirectional dshot allows you to run
[00:31:12] RPM filtering which is a big deal it's the best filtering setup that we've ever had in FPV all right let me pull one of the the whichever one of these batteries is the
[00:31:24] most charged this is not totally totally totally charged but it's close enough it's 4. 33 so let's plug in three times and see what H wait no hold on let me get into the
[00:31:34] bind mode on the module all right so one oh my God that's blue J isn't it two no it's not three that's jesc isn't it all right plugged in three times let's see if it'll
[00:31:52] bind this module is 2.5 I don't think it's on 2.5 because it would have bound so let's Swatch Swip SWAT switch Swatch switch the module out and try it again come
[00:32:13] on come on N minmo you can do it there you go okay bind mode press to send bind request binding oh that was quick that might have bound did it's more
[00:32:29] time all right let's try power cycling and for all I know there's a bind button but let's see Power Cycle them both and let's see what happens here all right it is not bound on this
[00:32:53] module let's pull this module and put the other one in see if it's bound here maybe I just didn't see it let's power cycle the transmitter shouldn't have to but takes one
[00:33:06] second all right so no it's not bound on either so what that tells me is it's probably not a plug it in unplug it three times binding procedure let's look for a button there is a button
[00:33:19] right in there but I believe that's on the VTX that's the VTX so that's not going to be the button the flight controller is up on the top here there's a button okay it's probably
[00:33:37] on there so this is the module on 2.5 let me get it back to the binding H binding mode here we go all right cool so we're going to plug power in and then we are going
[00:33:52] to push the button okay in theory it is now in bind mode pushing The Binding button it claims that it's binding try one more time okay let's try the 3.0 module and it started flashing
[00:34:23] differently when I hit that button so that is probably the bind button all right this module's up let's get it in here bind mode press to send bind request there it is so it's on elrs 3.0
[00:34:38] and all you got to do is push the button now it's bound look at that and it'll alarm cool that's not too hard bind buttonsI mean the whole plug and unplug three times is totally fine and then
[00:34:53] I almost maybe prefer that because it saves you space on the board so oh look at that it's a toilet tank setup for the battery I don't love that but it is what it is oh this is interesting man
[00:35:08] so this being a pusher and then there's this battery lead and there's all kinds of stuff that can potentially like get into the into the blades here this ought to
[00:35:20] be interesting to see if like it gets all jammed up was there no Turtle mode no no no no there was flip over there was crash recovery okay we're good we're good we're good
[00:35:33] on the flip side during total mode it'll be totally fine but I don't you guys know I don't love the whole Pusher thing in general so this will be interesting this might give me more
[00:35:44] ammunition for why I don't like pushers the reason that I don't like the toilet tanked battery setup is because like what is centered like is this centered is that centered is this
[00:35:56] centered is is it centered now like the the the battery and there's up here on the battery it's not Lithium Polymer it's just like this cable and some some extra like material so
[00:36:09] there's no way to ever know like if you have the center of gravity quite right on your first rig ever that doesn't matter but still like this is one of the reasons that I I'm not I'm not team
[00:36:23] toilet tank the battery toilet tanking the battery is when you put the battery sideways like this like the toilet tank on the top of your toilet all right let's see what this
[00:36:34] thing's all about run it over and get it plugged in that was a big ass beep looks like we'll be okay the battery cable wants to sit down here and that'll be cool because that'll make it sit like
[00:36:49] this on the ground it's almost like a forced forced I don't know words look at that so the signal is garbage because I have it set up low power until first arm when I arm it's going
[00:37:05] to put it up to 25 Ms video still does not look that great but again first rig kind of stuff keep the cost down put a cheap VTX in it I guess all right let's see what's what I
[00:37:21] should have added some extra stuff to the post screen thing so you can see pretty low up till wow the hover point is really high hover point is really really high like 50% so these are the
[00:37:35] rates that it came with there is pretty much no Expo this is incredibly sensitive in the middle of the stick travel this is hard to fly with these rates I'm going to change the rates at
[00:37:53] the end of this battery ow it's is heavy and it oh boy that's Full Throttle oh that's Full Throttle we can do some stuff though oh my God it just you just you just have to
[00:38:14] sit's on Full Throttlewe are spoiled with these tiny whoops that we have nowadays holy cow man I got to really like Focus can all right so you see all these tiny see how
[00:38:35] all does my flying looks terrible because of all these little corrections I you this is how I always fly but I have a lot of Expo so these little correct these little left and rights
[00:38:48] disappear because of the Expo I don't have the guts to drop it down through that into the into that Cube because I don't think I'll be able to keep it from I don't think I'll be able to keep
[00:38:58] it from hitting the ground whoa okay oh that's not flyable okay so VTX is not all that powerful let's kick the VTX power up a little bit oh well let's try oh okay so it barely has enough it barely
[00:39:20] has enough power for total mode and you got to use the momentum right so if I fire up the right side Motors it doesn't oh okay it does if that ever happens to you use the momentum fire up the left
[00:39:34] side Motors ready oh and then see how it rolls itself over that's something that you might have to do someday okay what's the battery life looking like we're at 2 minutes and 11 and it's
[00:39:53] at 3.7 this is a 650mah battery wow I got to on the throttle really early to keep it off the ground [Laughter] oh let's go upstairs with it oh wait wait no I forgot to change the output
[00:40:10] power hold on okay so let's go into the menu here features VTX and let's turn it up let's try 100 first save confirm great all right and I saw it switch up to 100 let's see if
[00:40:26] it's let's see what it'll do at the top of the stairs on 100 Ms 100 million Watts now we're fine cool so they might they might have like for 25 Ms it might be outputting like 10 ms or
[00:40:39] something but I mean this is the performance that we normally get from 25 Ms oh no this is better than look there was like no garbage up here so this is this is probably like a true 100
[00:40:52] Ms this looks fine oh that was Full Throttle the whole time wow man we are spoiled bro we are so spoiled let's see if I can get it down the
[00:41:08] stairs almost oh okay there we go and we are towards the end of the battery 650 milliamp battery it's 3 minutes and 25 not bad I'm pushing it hard like as a new pilot you're not
[00:41:26] going to fly it any near this hard it's kind of noisy down here hold on let me let me bring the the VTX power back down I feel like it was better on 25 Ms down here in the
[00:41:41] basement confirm 25 great oh no it's still it's just even the even in the rapid fires I'm getting we did it we did it I'm going to keep
[00:41:59] going I want to see if we can get to four minutes I'm assuming that we can oh boy that was almost full throttle I didn't man I'm so used to these lightweight big KV
[00:42:13] rigs oh it's just full you just you go from no throttle to zero throttle to Full Throttle and you got to do it early all right so we're going to bring it in we got over 4 minutes when you're new it's
[00:42:29] all about flight time right so a big ass 650 MH battery makes a lot of sense so there you go that's the that's the battery that I'm going to fly with it pretty much stock now we're going to
[00:42:39] start cranking it up I'm going to get this battery right back on the charger and I'm hoping to fly six batteries on this thing tonight that would be really cool we'll see we'll
[00:42:51] see if I can keep get them charged up enough I have the the vifly set to 0.9 amps so it's cranking as hard as it can that battery was not fully charged so I pulled it off it like I put these
[00:43:06] three batteries on at the same time and the other two that I didn't pull off they're still at like 3 4.34 4.35 so that was not a full battery hell we might have gotten to five minutes with a
[00:43:17] full battery health check no big crashes but still it's fine it's fine cool let's start tuning it tweaking it see how far we can push it and to get a little bit
[00:43:34] better flight performance and I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to try to I'm going to try to get that weird filtering setup a little bit more normalized damn that was
[00:43:52] I don't I guess because doesn't have much power it doesn't feel that heavy it doesn't feel as heavy so here let's let's talk about the weight actually what did the website say 45 gram I I
[00:44:06] assume that's with a battery right that has to be with a battery doesn't have to be dry okay dry it is 32.9550 gram 33 gam dry the jungle JY Basher as a point of reference for you
[00:44:25] is 23 half grams so extra 10 grams and then most of these 65mm rigs are like between 16 and 18 grams just so you have a point of reference 650
[00:44:41] Mah 1S Battery is that's a massive 1S Battery so that's a very heavy battery but makes sense for a beginner rig right big old battery it's going to make it's going to make it
[00:44:53] easier for you to control the throttle and whatnot and just as much flight time as possible it's all about stick time when you're new so makes sense to throw a big
[00:45:05] battery at them all right let's get it into the let's get into BetaFlight and start changing stuff somebody in the chat mentioned to do a clii dump that's a great idea I don't usually
[00:45:18] do it this way but I should start doing it this way in presets there's a button called save backup it just saves a CLI dump but it's just cool and look it even says CLI backup of th3 plus that's
[00:45:33] pretty handy save it to the desktop I do recommend that you look at that file to make sure that there's stuff in there I've done that before and the text file is empty and then you're screwed but
[00:45:48] in this case we are good to go we have all the setup stuff first thing I want to do is actually grab my OSD off of one of my other rigs so so let's do that real quick here because I want
[00:46:00] to take a look at like the the amps and the throttle and all the good stuff that we take a look at normally so if you've got your OSD set up perfectly on one rig here's how you can
[00:46:12] very easily move that to other rigs you come into the CLI and I actually just learned this you type dump all and now it's going to give you everything the stuff that is stock the stuff that is
[00:46:25] not stock the stuff that you you've changed and it puts set in front of everything usually I just do diff but this dump all will give you more stuff shout out to Joshua for saying this in
[00:46:38] one of his videos the other day and then so that's going to bring you to the bottom and there's no OSD stuff down here so scroll up slowly and what you're looking for is set space OSD and it'll
[00:46:50] all there'll be a big chunk of it so keep scrolling scrolling scrolling it's been a while since I said scrolling scrolling scrolling there it is so we got this section
[00:47:03] here with set OSD set OSD set OSD set so all you got to do is find the bottom one set OSD menu background equals transparent and so you're going to grab from here and highlight and just go all
[00:47:17] the way up to the top of the set OSD stuff there it is and there's the very top one set OSD units equals Imperial all that command C contrl C on a PC me Zoom back out and now this is my entire
[00:47:32] OSD profile on this other tiny whoop unplug it plug in the rig that you want to dump that into go into the CLI paste it and type save nice and simple and now that'll
[00:47:45] bring the whole OSD setup over so it'll turn stuff on it'll turn stuff off everything so here we go come into the CLI command V or control V all right and now you're looking for these red texts
[00:48:02] that's important the red text means it doesn't know what that line of CLI code was so just check it set OSD warn arming disable that's fine warn bat warning on these are fine these are
[00:48:18] warnings that we we don't really care about those set OSD ESC temperature alarm it doesn't understand it that's fine the stock ESC temperature alarm will be okay error in set OSD
[00:48:32] display name position that's the craft name so the craft name might not be in the right position we'll take a look at that in a second invalid name OSD navario I don't know what that is
[00:48:46] but it's a position one so it doesn't matter this is another position one so it doesn't matter OSD log status these are trying to change the position of OSD elements that's not
[00:48:59] going to mess anything up invalid name OSD stat date and time don't care about that timer one set OSD oh turn timer one on turn that's fine Max Speed Max distance don't
[00:49:14] care minimum battery end battery that's all fine we're okay type save that happens when there's a version mismatch the the version of BetaFlight on this tiny whoop that I pulled that off of is
[00:49:31] different than the version of BetaFlight on the tiny Hawk they'll sometimes behind the scenes they'll change names of stuff in the CLI so now we're going to click into the OSD and
[00:49:42] we're going to just take a look to check it and see what it looks like and it looks fine this is what my OSD usually looks like so we're good capacity 650 it's okay warning so some of
[00:49:57] these warnings are not turned on but that's whatever postflight statistics let's turn a couple of these on battery voltage battery voltage minimum battery voltage end no that's
[00:50:09] good ESC RPM maximum that'll be interesting although without bidirectional dshot that won't work but we're going to try to get bidirectional dshot turned on in a minute here so
[00:50:21] we're going to just turn this on preemptively timer one I'm going to turn on timer two I'm going to turn off it's no big deal whatever RSSI minimum cool GeForce maximum is always
[00:50:32] fun none of these are all that important they're just interesting ESC temperature maximum that's a cool one to have on all right that's fine let's save that we'll leave it alone I am going
[00:50:44] to go into adjustments and really quickly do my clean OSD setup because that's what some of those bing bongs are set up OSD Ox 2 all right super simple we won't really use that it's
[00:50:57] just good practice to set that up on everything all right so let's get the two of the batteries are now officially done charging so let's fire up ESC configurator and see what's what
[00:51:11] see if we can get blue jay on this guy transmitter has turned off great so we're going to put battery power to it and we are going to connect we are going to read
[00:51:24] settings yep it is on Jes see oh I'll be damned oh wait no no no we're good flash all okay I didn't know that though you can't even change settings so it's on
[00:51:38] jesc so we're going to go to flash all esc's we're going to flash it to Blue J it looks like it is finding the ESC not version but whatever the hell this is sh90 that's great and then oh
[00:51:54] wow this is new version 21.0 that's brand new I don't trust it though I'm going to do 0.17 and we're going to do 48 kpwm and we're going to flash this might brick it for the
[00:52:07] record but we'll see should be fine as long as it finds this this is the it's the number is the gate timing and then the the letters I believe are the version of the the version of the
[00:52:25] processor the esc's processor don't quote me on that though coming right along here looks like we'll be fine this will actually make a little bit more power and it
[00:52:37] should be a little bit more efficient here as well if I wasn't so lazy I would see if I could find blue j.6 sh90 but I mean this is whatever 0.1 blue J .17 has been fine on most stuff if it's
[00:52:52] not we'll know it cool that's all good to go turn the beep beepers up a little bit louder here turn the beacon delay down to 2 minutes turn on break on stop none of this really
[00:53:05] matters all that much but it's just stuff that I do on everything and write the settings cool we're now on 48k Blue J disconnect Ah that's the sound of my people right there come on
[00:53:21] now let's check the motor rotation because there's a chance that it got changed in there so we're done with this come in here come into the motors Tab and I'm just going to crank him up
[00:53:36] here and it feels like everybody is still making thrust but let me just double check yep that's props in that's props in that's props in that's props in yep we're good all right so dshot 300 let's now
[00:53:55] try to turn on B directional dshot and see what happens that seems okay let's save it and reboot it that's good it's beeping that's important connect and we're going to
[00:54:09] come right back into the motors Tab and we're going to do the same thing and we're going to look for error to make sure that the ESC processor can handle it and we're fine there it's not
[00:54:19] showing any error no we're good cool B directional dshot and RPM filtering are now turned on let's come here to filter settings and there it is gyro RPM filter we're going to turn the harmonics down
[00:54:34] to one and save because it's a tiny whoop when you something really cool that they've added to BetaFlight is that when you turn the RPM filtering on it automatically changes the dynamic
[00:54:46] Notch filter it brings the notch count down to one is the main thing that it does the rest of the stuff can stay the same and so now I we we might have been able to take
[00:54:58] some of this gyro filter filtering away without RPM filtering but like why not turn on RPM filtering it takes 3 seconds and it's easy to do right so I'm now going to grab this gyro filter
[00:55:10] multiplier that they had down on6 and I'm going to pull it all the way up to 2.0 because typically we just don't need the gyro filtering I'm going to save this and I'm actually going to try
[00:55:23] to fly it real quick because that is a massive change if for whatever reason it can't handle that I want to know it now before I go screwing around with a bunch of other stuff so real quick I'm just
[00:55:35] going to throw a battery on here and I'm just going to line of sight this it's kind of weird to me that they have so much gyro filtering in there what what that says to me is that potentially
[00:55:48] this is a very electrically noisy AIO SL a so just real quick I just want to make sure that this thing hovers without rocketing into the ceiling so fire the controller up and let's just real
[00:56:07] quick see just to make sure it's not super unhappy why won't it bind there it goes it just needed a second all right it's okay so far we're good cool so that's fine I won't
[00:56:31] be able to feel if the motors are getting hot but they didn't sound weird they they didn't make the the normal noises that I hear when when you've taken too much filtering away you know
[00:56:41] it's kind of nice about this usually you have to pull the battery out to get at the USB plug the USB plug's up on top so I can leave the battery in there Silver Lining friends always
[00:56:52] always look for the it's the little things it's the little things that are cool all right all right so we've remove we've just removed a ton of latency from the filtering let's keep
[00:57:04] going man let let's keep pushing this thing I'm going to do a bunch of stuff that that you can that it's way easier to do in BetaFlight and then I'm going to use the OSD to push the to
[00:57:17] push the actual pit tune so I can do it a little bit at a time but there's a bunch of stuff that is in the OSD but it's a pain in the ass to find so I'm going to make some changes on here
[00:57:28] um all right so first and foremost I'm going to put my rates on here it feels terrible in the center of the stick it's way too sensitive in the center of the stick and
[00:57:45] that is basically because there's almost no Expo on here I could very easily that in my opinion this should come from the factory this would make it in my opinion so much
[00:57:59] easier to fly especially like inside the house but I don't like this beta flate old school rate profile so I'm going to put it onto actual rates and then I'm just going to put my specific
[00:58:09] rates on here all right and you will not believe how much better the flight footage looks with this rate setup now that we have the throttle percentage in the OSD I'll be
[00:58:27] able to dial in the throttle mid point cuz this throttle midpoint might not be right although man it did feel like it wanted 50% here's the thing though I don't want this much throttle
[00:58:40] Expo this thing has so little power that like I'm having to move the throttle a lot to do anything and so this amount of throttle Expo is you just don't want that like if you have a rig that
[00:58:55] like when you find when you fly it around you only alter your throttle a little bit like a big Power rig you're going to cruise at like 30% and then you might like move up to like 32 and then
[00:59:05] like down to 38 that's a rig that you can use a ton of throttle Expo on this thing I'm at 50 and then I'm going like up to 80 90 100 and when you're moving the the stick that much you you
[00:59:17] don't necessarily want this much throttle Expo so I'm actually going to take the throttle Expo out completely and then we're going to fly it with a linear throttle and see how it is again
[00:59:29] it also like this this rig has so little power that I probably don't need throttle expo at all Throttle Expo is really nice on a super powerful rig where when you make a small change it
[00:59:44] Rockets up when you have an underpowered rig when you make a St small change it doesn't do anything cuz it doesn't have a great power to weight ratio so we probably don't need any throttle Expo in
[00:59:55] this rig so I've now turned it off we'll see if I my elevation is bouncing up and down it won't be we'll be fine so the I'm going to leave the filters alone here I think this is
[01:00:08] pretty close to like my standard filtering setup so this is a we've removed gobs of latency let's save that oh what what do you want what are you beeping for Buddy I'm going to
[01:00:25] move this dnamic damping up a bunch to 1.2 from0 2 rest of the stuff probably kind of okay save this again I'm going to adjust these in the
[01:00:41] OSD oh receiver tab is where I wanted to change some stuff so I'm going to add some RC smoothing this is like practically no RC smoothing so I'm just going to move this Auto Factor up
[01:00:54] to 100 that that's just going to smooth out the stick inputs a little bit that's just the way I it's adds a little bit of delay but it Smooths everything out I am going to come in here and
[01:01:04] increase the pit sum it's probably not going to do anything but just for the sake of it oh my God they've already got it turned all the way upsomebody at emac knows what's what somebody at
[01:01:18] emac knows how to tune they've got the PID suum cranked all the way up to 100% already good for good for them that's awesome hell all right cool so the the pids are I mean the the dmax
[01:01:32] going up is a good thing that might handle that big descending prop wash that it had but I'm going to really go bananas pushing the P and D gains up in a minute but for right now I'm going to
[01:01:43] leave it and then we'll do that in the OSD because I like to kind of show you that because it is it's very easy to tune you don't even need to use BetaFlight you just do the stick
[01:01:52] command cool all right away we go round two not quite fully tuned yet but first pass let's say of tuning just arm it real quick to get it off of low power on first disarm
[01:02:15] the VTX is not great I I'm mean I'm right you it is right next to the to the antenna that feeds into the live stream and we're getting a little bit of little bit of
[01:02:27] garbage so I will say that I wish it did have a little bit of a better VTX although what let's just do this let's crank the VTX power up because it was it was performing a lot better on
[01:02:42] 100 oh I didn't save it in there I didn't hit set rather or no I guess it is safe confirm yes confirm yes it doesn't usually do it twice that's weird but whatever
[01:02:57] all right here we go all right that feels so much better okay still doesn't have any power ah okay I have to because of because of the lack of power I have to be like early with
[01:03:24] everything that I do I have to like Hammer the throttle really early now that it's on my what's really funny is now that it's on my rates I expect it to fly like
[01:03:37] everything else that I fly it like on the other rates it was almost constantly telling me likethis is weird fly weird so you guys can see the throttle on the right side there notice how often
[01:03:51] I'm going to be at 100% throttle man it just barely has enough power to Turtle mode I bet you it would have a really hard time Turtle moding upstairs on the hardwood it might not
[01:04:03] even be able to do it there's a power Loop so we can do some things let's see if we Matty flip oh god oh boy I'm also being kind of careful to not slam this into anything because it's
[01:04:16] kind of heavy and I don't want to mess stuff up okay I I didn't get on the throttle early enough I don't know if I'm going to be able to Matty flip this I got to be honest
[01:04:28] H that wasn't that's I mean that's just a front flip that's not really a matty flip hold on oh god oh that was a hard hit the durability testing of part of this live stream has
[01:04:41] begun I also feel like there's an awful lot of up tilt right now hold on oh yeah oh God there's tons of up tilt oh there's all the up tilt in the
[01:04:50] [Laughter] world that's like 45 degrees up tilt so all right that's a little bit better I thought it felt a little weird God nope all the wrong buttons all right here we
[01:05:08] go oh wait hold on let's start let's start dialing in the tune so stick command is pitch forward yall left and then you go into profile and simplified tuning and the Dain slider is all the
[01:05:21] way up I'm going to take the p&i slider and I'm going to Max that and then I'm going to come down let's just try that we'll just try that see how that is cuz it might just fly away nope it's
[01:05:32] fine all right so now we've got a ton more P Andi gain oh boy this is tough to fly it's not tough to fly it's actually very easy to fly it's tough to do the absurd things that I want to do
[01:05:52] but it's actually very easy to fly because look what I can do with the throttle look at the throttle on the right side of the screen look how much I can move it like if you're new
[01:06:02] this would be the dream man like no more rocketing up into the ceiling like you just keep the throttle moving and you can just fly around them comfortably right like what I'm doing right now for
[01:06:12] like a new pilot this is the dream this is the dream you're like King dingling if you can do this as a new pilot with your first FTV rig right so this is what easy to fly looks
[01:06:25] like look at the look at the Mah they obviously don't have the the amp scaling set properly because this is obviously not a 2,000 mAh battery all right we are
[01:06:40] upstairs oh okay so we still need quite a bit more pit gain let's see let's see if we can do it with the master multiplier I'm going to push the master multiplier all the way
[01:06:51] up first time for everything here we go all the way let's see what happens it's fine it's completely fine the the power train oh this VTX is really struggling the the power train is kind of so
[01:07:13] gutless that even with the pids cranked up that high it still doesn't have enough response time to have issues but man it the tune is a lot better now it's not prop washing at all look at
[01:07:29] that all right this battery's about done three and a half minutes with a lot of kind of screwing around in there all right let's get this battery on the
[01:07:38] charger it's better but the the lack of power is the problem so here this is this is such a great example of why tuning is not everything and you could actually this is a great example of like
[01:07:55] kebabs tuning method of not touching the pids at all and just focusing on the mechanical system just focusing on the power train we've got the the sliders all the way up the the pit gains are in
[01:08:08] like in deep into the hundreds they might even be up into the 200s but because the propellers are heavy and the motors are very low KV the response time is just barely
[01:08:22] getting there right the mechanical system is not up to par so we're putting a big Band-Aid on it with massive pit gains and we've got it to the point where it's not prop washing which is kind of great
[01:08:36] but again perfect example of how you can't just take a rig that has Motors and propellers and battery voltage that don't jive with one another and just crank the pids and have
[01:08:48] something that rails and rips you have to you have to have a good mechanical system and then a good tune although in my opinion the mechanical system is more important a good set of
[01:09:00] Motors props and the right battery voltage you can run it on stock pids and it'll be locked in it'll fly great so that's where a lot of that emphasis kind of comes from from a lot of Pilots
[01:09:12] myself included and that's why choosing the right Motors props all up weight battery voltage is super super super important let's see if we can get a matty flip on this I'm not going
[01:09:25] to do much of anything else th this is where I'm going to stop with the tune I could now technically go in and start typing numbers in I could turn off the sliders and start typing numbers in to
[01:09:37] get more pit gains but it's fighting prop wash pretty well and that's a good place to stop it's not going to fly that much better if any better by continuing to
[01:09:51] push the pids up if you wanted this thing to fly better you would want to see if emac has a higher KV set of motors for it all right I mean you might be able to swap the
[01:10:05] motors out but I I don't know this is look this is not a rig that you would want to do that this is a rig to leave alone fly the hell out of it and just move
[01:10:19] on I would not recommend going down the rabbit hole of upgrading this that this is a this rig is a perfect examp example of one that you leave it alone and you just fly it as it is and then away you
[01:10:31] go here we go Friends full battery we've already used 170 milliamps according to the the OSD Full Throttle punch fresh battery Full Throttle punch ready oh God I hit the
[01:10:50] ceiling look at that it's still got enough power to hit the ceiling oh God now it's got a million degrees of uptilt all right so one of my biggest complaints is going to be that the top
[01:11:04] of the camera every time you hit the ceiling it's going to add up tilt that that's going to drive you insane so if you have this rig put E6000 in here E6 figure out like a low camera up
[01:11:17] tilt and then just put a blob a E6000 to lock the uptilt in I'm going to crank these screws again before the stream I tighten these screws up quite a bit's just it's the design of this canopy
[01:11:30] these little wings on top here I wish they weren't there so every time you crash this thing inverted it's going to try to add up tilt which is going to completely change the way that it flies
[01:11:44] so that that's a that's something that I would really recommend that they change about it because that's just silly I think they did that to give it a little bit more protection up there
[01:11:57] but it's there are other way they would want to they would want those little horns to be on the on the outsides not the part connected to the camera let's get this Matty
[01:12:13] flip almost oh so close so close so I'm being super drastic with it to give myself enough time so start it off low ah almost start it off really low and that'll give you a big old hurl and
[01:12:29] then you can rotate it around nice and slow ah I didn't even get it into the gates this will be some good durability testing here oh and now I've got tons of uptilt
[01:12:45] again it's kind of stuck under the gate oh I don't know if I can fly it with this much up tilt oh it's hold on let's just try one more Matty flip oh my
[01:13:02] god wow it's got all the uptil on Earth hold on oh god oh it's so hard God I forgot how hard rigs are it's got like 45 degrees of up tilt again it's G to drive people crazy
[01:13:22] that that's G to make you think that you don't know how to fly I'm going to do the Matty flip here I'm want to try to do the Matty flip here oh my
[01:13:42] God what what the hell where is it I don't even know where it is where are you little fella oh oh it's back behind the thing that's why okay and it's got a th degrees up tilt again
[01:13:58] you can see when it has tons of up tilt because the on the bottom of the the you can't see the prop guards anymore there we go that's what you want you want to be able to see the prop
[01:14:08] guards in the very bottom of the frame there that means there's not much up tilt nobody cares if you can Matty flip it let's go upstairs and blast it around so a rig like this you're not okay I
[01:14:21] can't see anything can you guys not see anything either oh I get W oh my god wow what has happened to the BX power did it go no it's still at 100 let's go for
[01:14:34] 200 save confirm confirm all right it's at 200 now oh that's way better W that's way better oh God this is a rig that if you want to rip this is how you fly it you fly it like an RC car
[01:14:56] this is not a big like throw it over the railing rig look at no prop wash though I did throw it over the railing no prop wash at all it was it was sitting down into its own wash horribly
[01:15:08] before Oh a little bit there we kind of did the full room power Loop kind of let's try it again oh we are getting some crash oh oh nope it's
[01:15:26] fine oh nope it's not fine oh now it's fine that was weird I think maybe the battery maybe that battery plug was touching one of the motors or something oh God oh
[01:15:39] don't be in the sink don't let me kill two brand new rig see now this is what I was talking about it's on a smooth s it got over oh now it won't take off oh come on
[01:15:55] I I think that the the battery plug is touching one of the motors hold on well something's going on the right where motor right rear motor is either blocked or blown
[01:16:18] up all right I got to go get it hold on h huh it's not what I thought it was the the the battery plug is free of the right rear motor and the the right rear motor is rotating fine let's arm it and
[01:17:13] see what's up no it's not it's twitching right rear motor is switching see it so let's see if it's a wire issue Let's Wiggle the wires around a little bit and
[01:17:30] then I will try to seat the the plug a little bit better now it's seated the plug is seated all the way let see if that changed anything it's
[01:17:49] still see it's still twitching damn so this is one of the things that is super important about beginner rigs is that this does not happen I mean I did crash this hard but as a beginner
[01:18:08] you're going to crash this stuff hard durability in my opinion is everything on a beginner rig it's kind of the only thing that matters in my opinion so this
[01:18:20] is this is a little disappointing I got to be honest I was hoping to get a lot more out of this it looks like it wants to spin though let's see if
[01:18:31] it'll no I mean it hit pretty good In fairness frame is totally fine damn I mean the the motor spins completely fine it's motor one well there it is back to
[01:18:58] life all right let's play a little bit more here we go Goggles stop oh farts stop it goggles stop it woo oh boy man oh I'm taking the walk aren't I and now it's under the couch
[01:19:34] damn oh well so that that failure that is an ESC failure that is a that is a failure that you see when an ESC is on its way out basically meaning that Jesus probably meaning that like
[01:20:00] one of the fets was bad pretty much right off the bat whoa I was Full Throttle for a long time that motor was not cooperating but then it came back to life I keep saying that motor it's it's
[01:20:22] an ESC Channel thing but the motor is what's refusing to spin come on oh come on brother ah there we go oh man it's got all the up tilt in the world
[01:20:45] again okay all right up tilt back down please stop beeping goggles and let's run the rest of this battery ah come on come back to life come on channel one come back to me
[01:21:00] channel one come on oh it ah so you might be thinking wow he's going to blow that thing up because from all that Turtle moding no Turtle mode blows up esc's when there's a propeller
[01:21:21] that's blocked and you do that [@$#%] these propellers are not blocked right because it's moving across the floor and so going Full Throttle in Turtle mode when the propellers are not blocked is
[01:21:33] the same thing as going Full Throttle when you're flying it and we go Full Throttle quite a bit right and so Turtle mode is not like dangerous you not noticing that there's
[01:21:46] a propeller blocked is what's dangerous like don't blame Turtle mode for blowing up esc's has nothing to do with Turtle mode it has to do with you you using Turtle mode incorrectly and not paying
[01:21:56] attention to whether or not the propellers are blocked these this is not a fully charged battery but we're going to run it's at 4.32 so we are just going to run this
[01:22:11] and I think this is going to be the last battery that we put through this emac thank you for sending this over as a for a new person this should be fine stock settings are fine you know
[01:22:23] again it's not not a rig I don't think that you're going to be able to like upgrade and move along your FPV path with but if you just want to get get somebody into
[01:22:35] FPV I don't necessarily see anything wrong with this I've never flown my first rig again either so kind of is what it is I don't love that this ESC channel is being
[01:22:49] weird but that's a the whole durability side of this it's so difficult it's could just be this one it's probably not all of them oh boy they would stop selling it if it was
[01:23:04] like a huge problem I don't really know what else to say about that ah the up tilt again Jesus let's try to fly it with this much up tilt Jesus okay hold on let's try to
[01:23:25] fight with all the up tilt oo o oh God all right let's not do that anymore because that's G to actually break something that's what we're flying that's like that's like 60 Dees
[01:23:55] oh you can go into negative what's that look like oh it's a Medlin setup that's all this is in desperate need of oh let's do this let's do this let's do bondic I'm going to use bondic to lock
[01:24:09] the to lock the up tilt this is the beautiful thing about this UV reactive glue is that it cures right away so I'm going to crank these screws keep loosening up too so I'm going to
[01:24:24] crank these screws down I'm just going to give it a little bit up tilt and then just going to put a little bit here I'm super curious if this will hold up to crashing and whatnot E6000 is
[01:24:37] super Stout and it's super sticky and it would almost certainly hold up but let's see if let's see if bondic is up to the task all right so you put it on there and then you just use the janky
[01:24:51] little UV light that it comes with and that'll get the curing process started it doesn't cure it all the way but it's does a really good job all right so there's one one side
[01:25:03] and I'm going to put a little blob on the other side too and I'm just putting it in between the two parts of the canopy this should hold up I bet you this is totally fine
[01:25:17] when I'm done with it okay and back on okay all right be a torture test for bondic Kevin Su says I think Turtle mode got a bad reputation back when esc's were a lot more fragile in the early days of FPV I
[01:25:43] still I still hear people talking about it though I still hear people complaining I blew up my ESC from Turtle mooting too much it's like I agree with you Kevin I I absolutely agree with you
[01:25:52] but it's like still a thing people still like still be blaming Turtle mode okay here we go with some locked up tilt the way it should be almost Stevie wondered
[01:26:12] it almost here we go oh boy no no no no no come on buddy come back to life there it is yay o o o o let's let's get up in here buddy since it has no power it's got all the throttle resolution in
[01:26:45] the world this is how to fly this thing hold on oh my God never mind all right so use the momentum nope use the moment maybe I think Turtle moding front and back works better with
[01:27:03] this maybe I think the way that you fly this is low and slow maybe so let's see is it is it a tiny Gap shooter is that the the tiny Hawk freeze the oh boy is that oh
[01:27:28] boy maybe not oh come on no no no come on yes yes yes no no no get out of there it's awful heavy to be able to push it into tiny little gaps what else we got
[01:27:54] got what other it's also kind of big the 1.6 inch props now this is how you fly it this is how you fly you fly it nice and slow low up
[01:28:15] tilt this is it and when you fly it like this the lack of power doesn't matter nearly as much and you've got all this throttle resolution without even needing to use Expo this is how to fly this thing
[01:28:36] and this is hard this is It's hard to fly like this and this is the dream right shoot every little tiny Gap in your house come on that's why you started flying tiny whoops isn't
[01:28:47] it camera is very slow to change Auto white balance but so is beta fpvs camera this is how you fly this thing this is not a full tilt Acro monster oh
[01:29:06] fart oh [@$#%] oh boy oh boy I'm gonna go up and get it that footsteps I hear I hear footsteps somebody's going to help me somebody's G to help me yay family loves me I see little teddy
[01:29:36] feet yay thank you look at little teddy oh I can I already see a problem lots of uptilt oh and it won't arm now RPM filter throttle that's weird
[01:29:58] What okay taking the [Laughter] walk thank you though all right so the bondic didn't hold up I have no idea why it's telling me RP I I have no idea why I won't
[01:30:42] arm Maggie stepped on a 1210 prop why won't you arm little guy it was fine and now it's not everything was cool all right let's try power power cycling it I'm sure this
[01:31:02] will fix it weird though that's a that's a weird little thing the bondic let go I I bondic does need some time to cure I I I was asking an awful lot of
[01:31:21] it I'm trying to arm it too quick there we go everything's fine okay last little bit of flying here I'm not going to go back upstairs that'll just lead to me having to take
[01:31:37] the walk again we're going to shoot all the little wait wait where's Teddy where's Teddy Teddy spaghetti where you at look at look how different this one looks buddy oh god oh
[01:31:50] no oh the yesc again oh sorry teddy oh boy now he's pissed look at him he's pissed now he's like the this this big weird looking one tried to bch me Teddy come on come on little boy Chase it you
[01:32:07] know you want to oh you the best dog you're the best get it get it buddy you show it you show it who's boss little boy Go Get It Go Get your son it chases dogs just as good as any other
[01:32:33] tiny whoop confirmed buddy well there you go my friends you can shoot gates with it other than the ESC channel one being a little suspect here not a terrible first
[01:33:02] rig not too shabby you would want to you would definitely want to just load up E6000 to keep this to keep this camera from from losing angle though that's a that's a huge problem
[01:33:20] that's going to really like imagine not knowing that imagine like this is your first rig and you're you're fly like it comes out of the box with normal up tilt and then you crash it and it's like
[01:33:32] this imagine trying to fly that and just like you wouldn't know you wouldn't like pick it up and be like why is this thing flying so weird like why is this thing flying so weird I don't I I
[01:33:43] don't it's so weird it's almost like I'm just looking straight up at the sky like that's bananas they need to have a card if if they're gonna have it like this there needs to be a card in there
[01:33:53] that says if that says pay very close attention to your camera angle with a little picture and now the the screws have loosened themselves so that
[01:34:04] that's this this needs this needs attention here this is crazy they need to take the plastic here on the mount and then and make it be the highest point they need to swoop this
[01:34:18] plastic up so that it hits the mount not the not the camera I would love higher KV Motors even for a beginner this would need higher KV Motors look put 30,000 KV Motors on it and put a
[01:34:31] a motor limiting thing in there for 50% and then you've got your 15,000 KV we smacked it a bunch of times and yesc didn't love it but frame's fine frame seems to be relatively durable
[01:34:50] it's nice and nice and bendy there you go here's a little product review for you not something I do all that often I want to I'm going to I I don't really have a reason to keep this is
[01:35:04] anybody looking to get somebody into FPV let me know and this is interesting to you or do you have a bunch of spare parts for this and we can put them all together and give somebody
[01:35:19] a hell of a FPV package I don't know I don't know what to do with this but let me know if what to do with it very cool emac thank you for sending this over this this is a very nostalgic
[01:35:32] experience actually the the original babyhawk is all white all plastic like this and didn't have great power to weight ratio so at at some point I will get this guy set up and ripped
[01:35:49] this thing around inside I outside I've actually flown one of these before they sent me the this is the three I think they sent me the two a while ago and it was like not bad mainly because the
[01:36:04] emac Rush propellers are so good this is on 1202 A2 7,000 KV oh and it's set up for double pH 2.0 so 7,000 KV is going to become like 14,000 KV on like either a 2 in or looks like
[01:36:21] maybe a 2 and 1/2 in prop so this will be fun this will be fun to blast around outside this will be what this will be really cool to compare to the Jungle Gym
[01:36:31] Basher roughly the same size without propellers on massive difference in weight that'll be kind of cool I'm kind of looking forward to that I think this is a 2 and a half
[01:36:44] inch where are the propellers here they are yep these are 2 and a half inch propellers so throw this around at some here maybe this weekend squeeze that in this weekend
[01:37:00] this comes with a regular old school pH 2.0 charger I don't know what else to say about these to be honest other than to say thanks again to emac very cool of you to send these over I appreciate
[01:37:17] it bringing me back man bring me back to ye olden days of PV I'm actually going to put these batteries on the charger and let them charge all the way up and
[01:37:28] then there will be charged batteries and I'll have to fly this other one what I mean very cool and I'm GNA keep this this is this is nice to have actually I'm
[01:37:44] going to self and I'm keeping this I'm absolutely keeping this itty bitty little hysterical screwdriver for ants awesome that is a thing that I don't do very often product reviewi is
[01:38:01] stuff let's fly the fresh 36,000 KV no no no no no let me let me let me get caught up on chat all right so there's only 10 minutes left before midnight so we that was six batteries I think right
[01:38:17] go fly your six batteries my friends or else okay let us dive on in to the chat and let me see how much I can get caught up here scrolling up a ton oh I wanted to show you guys
[01:38:42] something that Frank Nicholas sent me it's pretty cool I'm gonna show you guys on Friday I'll show that on Friday because I have a I have an email up that I don't want to lose moros peanuts thank you
[01:38:54] for joining the patreon my friend welcome to the gangly gang thank you so much for the support there's a bunch of others but again there's an email up that I don't want to
[01:39:03] go away so where we at here 661 says dog was fine it was a huge dog talking about his isi and Tiny whoop that the dog literally at ate swallowed the whole thing fragas says as a bind
[01:39:22] and fly the gyro K might be required for that pit tune that's interesting I'm I I was afraid of the the CPU usage being too high though demo FPV says can you make BetaFlight page bigger can't see
[01:39:35] well on my phone sorry brother read that a little bit too late for you James Rey says I flash mine and regretted it stock T knows the ways of the force mine did totally fine with all the changes
[01:39:47] I mean I guess technically there's a chance that the changes that I made could have had something to do with the ESC going up but no because it wasn't oscillating the motors weren't getting like blindingly
[01:40:02] hot or anything right like it wasn't getting core temperature warnings so I highly highly highly doubt the changes that I made had anything to do with it they could have though I I if
[01:40:14] I had more time it I I I guess I could have put 10 batteries through it as it was out of the box but we're here to tune stuff and improve stuff and I've tuned a million rigs in
[01:40:28] the way that I just did and there's never been any like no it's fine we know how tuning Works we've seen Black Box logs there are there are definite
[01:40:44] like there are signs when you are overtuned and over tuning is what potentially causes problems if it's not over tuned then it's not putting extra stress on the on the ESC more so than
[01:40:59] when you just go Full Throttle right every time you go Full Throttle that puts a bunch of stress on the ESC when you turn the tune up it fights prop wash by going Full
[01:41:11] Throttle so it's there's not like there's not notice says posted a pick and a question in toothpick and whoop on the Discord if you don't mind hopefully you're still around
[01:41:27] first swop build trying to fit 2g4 into a cockroach V3 no it's fine you trimmed that's fine that you trimmed it there the the trick is to put the the the the duct comes
[01:41:46] around here and then the the 2g4 has the plug for the camera and it and it's pushes in but the duck is like this so what you want to do is take the 2g4 with that camera plug and put that in first
[01:41:59] and then put it down in the rest of the posts and it once it's in there there's plenty of clearance because the duct is the ducts are right but the the aiio sits nice and far down so the
[01:42:11] plug clears so the the plug you put that in first and then you you crank the rest of it down notice you'll understand what I'm saying the rest you don't need to know but the fact that you trimmed it
[01:42:24] like that is totally fine but in the future you don't technically have to trim it why don't I just show you guys the goddamn picture and then you'll understand what we're saying
[01:42:33] it's the it's the plug here so notice trim this out but technically you didn't have to do that technically just take this board and angle it in there to put this plug under this part of the duct
[01:42:45] first and then put the rest of the board down on the rest of the on the rest of the post oh you don't have the grommets on there so get the gr get the rubber grommets on there Slide
[01:42:55] the slide so so you put the rubber grommets on this post and on this post and then you just take your finger and pull this duct away so that you can get those wires and that plug tucked under
[01:43:07] here towards the bottom of the duct and then you take the board and you you put these other two grommets on these other two things and you'll be good to go yep good
[01:43:19] question where we at Here Andrew tiller says you can bind it on the receivers page I always forget that there's a bind button on the receivers page good call Andrew thank you for that Moss one says my
[01:43:38] new mobular 6224 is on 2K pit Loop should I go up to 4K I would I would go up to 4K it'll be fine Michael blade says hello James ready Rey says you can bind the RX
[01:43:55] and adding a binding phrase in BetaFlight that's another way you can bind elrs with binding phrases Michael blade says can I solder motor wires on a flight controller with the Plug and Play
[01:44:05] I need more to go off of I don't know what flight controller I don't know what what you mean when you say with the plug and play but if there are pads you can solder
[01:44:19] the motor wires is is the easy answer to that Kevin sum says Andrew Taylor it's that's some point all right you guys got it figured out I think Todd hon says I built a set of
[01:44:35] wannabe iow Motors one and a half mil motor shaft rs82 with tiny whoop 27,000 KV Staters having trouble with one of them spinning up Motors were fine before what do I do first and foremost take
[01:44:49] two Motors and swap them to make sure that the motor is the problem and that the ESC is not the problem that's the first thing you need to do after that you'll definitely have
[01:45:01] isolated the motor you got to see if like if if you broke the wires when you were handling it the the wires are so thin so you got to investigate where the wire is soldered up to the little
[01:45:13] PCB on the motor make sure that one of those wires is not broken off and then you also want to look to make sure that you got the washers in the right places to make sure that the motor Bell is not
[01:45:24] like rubbing or some something weird there's a bunch of stuff for you to try Curtis Hayes says Cube 32 programmers saves everything including the BetaFlight code SL memory I don't
[01:45:35] know what Cube 32 programmer is but oh Curtis Hayes also says that save backup doesn't always work I've had that experience off axis is in the house he says I remember JC that and emu
[01:45:49] flight was my Mobula 6 setup three years ago nice off access dropp in the patreon Link in there thank you dude Kevin Su says in h90s is the ESC configuration awesome the MCU pin out H is the MCU
[01:46:03] type very cool and 90 is the fat timing the gate timing I think you had it right very cool thank you for that homie dead dead stiff says put BT 3.0 and your 300 MH 2S battery on it it
[01:46:19] probably work but it's this is not a rig that I'm going to go I'm G to really spend any time upgrading would be kind of interesting though how far can we push it I'm not doing it don't don't
[01:46:31] want that jbo says can I have the OSD menu in my transported 2 goggles or is it only in higher end goggles I can't get it to work OSD in BetaFlight it puts it in the video signal so it'll
[01:46:45] work anywhere it's literally drawing it as a layer on top of your actual video so if you can't get it to work there's something going on in BetaFlight Kevin Su says I think Turtle
[01:47:00] mode we got that we talked about that one Kevin also says how many people still talk about lower KV having more torque even though it's been proven over time and time again not to be true same
[01:47:10] trap crap propagates throughout time very true very very true Jason Crabtree says it's cool to get a perspective from a pilot like you flying one of flying one from a pilot like
[01:47:20] you were flying something like tiny Hawk that is exactly why I I was kind of excited to do this tonight because like you don't really see like Pilots that have Dove so deeply into this go
[01:47:34] back and fly like a super beginner oriented kind of rig hard like a lot of times when you they just put them outside and fly them around the grass and go it flies great buy it
[01:47:44] here's my affiliate link it's super interesting to try to do big gnarly stuff with it Denzel the turle says tell Maggie she's the best I do frequently Andrew Taylor says I got the RPM filter
[01:47:56] air on my freestyle rebooting from the OSD would fix it yep that's a weird air that that's popped up on Plenty of my rigs super rare but it does it is some weird thing Offa says want to
[01:48:10] donate to the FPV the city event I'll pay shipping message me if if we can figure out like a really good use for this I'm down
[01:48:23] itchy sack why am I such a child this is exciting I get to say this out loud at work itchy sack FPV says what's up brother Ciotti looking good been a minute thank you brother thank
[01:48:45] you for having a name that makes me happy notice says so no gummies no no no you have to have gummies you cannot you cannot not use the rubber grommets it will not work without them you got
[01:48:55] to use them bad says you always say about by blades for 75mm analog I've been using GemFan 1635 for my 35,000 KV builds Jesus what's the downside of doing so Tri blades are
[01:49:11] significantly heavier those 1635 Tri blades are super pitchy as well so it's a very heavy very pitchy propeller so that's going to Dr drag your response time down so your pit Loop
[01:49:24] is going to really struggle to catch prop wash and then I've found that those 1635 propellers actually make a lot less thrust than the GemFan bblades what I think is happening is that
[01:49:36] they're so heavy and they're so pitchy that the motor just these little Motors that we run just don't have enough grunt to spin them up to a good RPM where those where they start to kind of like
[01:49:48] sing and become efficient and make good power so in my experience the GemFan 1610 by blades actually make more power than all of the other 1.6 in props which it shouldn't be the case but
[01:50:07] I think it's just that like those 1635 props I think you would need to put them on like a 1202 or an 1102 for the motor to have enough power for that heavy in that pitchy of a propeller kind of
[01:50:19] like you're going up a hill in your car in fifth gear and it's like a four-cylinder it's going to like and fall with a with with a gasoline engine it's different because
[01:50:29] it's going to fall out of its efficiency range where it makes less power but it's an analogy that kind of works for your brain in theory alais says how much better is the new Mobula 6 2024 versus
[01:50:43] the original Mobula 6 I don't necessarily think that it's better it's a little bit lighter but but I think that the 2g4 is the best aiio that we've ever had for tiny whoops
[01:50:58] still I still think that I think that the mobula 2024 is fine I I I I I think it's the best it's the best option for a rig that you're going to upgrade but I would rather still have
[01:51:14] the 2g4 from like a durability perspective and from a the camera has a plug and it's not direct soldered perspective and also from like a reliability standpoint the the 2g4 was just bomb
[01:51:29] proof and the Mobula 6 2024 it seems to be okay but it doesn't seem to be as bomb proof and so it's the best we've got though and it is a little bit lighter which is nice notice with a $5
[01:51:43] Super Chat he said thanks you're certainly welcome brother thank you for the support and then Moss one with the last comment of the live stream he says buddy my new Mobula 6 comes
[01:51:52] with 2K P Lop myant going to 4K I answered a little bit you're good go to 4K you're fine Teddy do you have anything to say go to se fpv.one affiliate
[01:52:16] links and join his patreon because otherwise he's going to beat me be to death you don't want that to be on your conscience do you you don't want me to get beaten to death by this gangly not
[01:52:31] lunatic behind me do you it's up to you it's up to you look at this face he just runs full speed he runs up the stairs he's like I'm out of here off access dropping SE L thank you homie
[01:52:54] thanks for hanging friends a little bit of a different stream tonight but that that was that was really cool that that was really interesting flying something that heavy and that sort of underpowered
[01:53:02] I find it insane that you can still do power loops and Matty flips if I tried the Matty flips a couple more times I would have gotten them really really really funny what what you
[01:53:15] can't do with something this heavy and underpowered is like throw it across the room right like you guys saw when I was trying to that it's just like and it just falls down but it is cool that you
[01:53:26] can still do power loops and whatnot so you you could technically buy one of these things and put a thousand batteries through it and get really really good which is kind of
[01:53:36] that was sort of my path right like the that original baby hawk was very underpowered but I just flew battery after battery after battery and got pretty good so there you go fly
[01:53:48] what you got run what you br my friends fly what you got fly the [@$#%] out of it and you'll get get good and you'll have fun in the process you it's I guess maybe it's a little bit more fun
[01:53:59] to fly super hopped up stuff but that's from like when you're new flying through your house and whatnot is super fun what I mean it's not as much
[01:54:13] fun for me because I've flown 110 billion batteries over the last eight years but focus on the fun fly what you got fly the hell out of it's Fly some more C fv.com be good my
[01:54:28] friends here's some more Jungle Gym bashing outside up front love you bye see you Friday at 7 o'clock Eastern time I remember a n