[00:03:34]   hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti something a't on nothing's on over here now we're cooking welcome to whoop wday we're going to be taking a look at the wandering whoop

[00:03:49]   today very cool oh little wandering tiny whoop that gets sent to all different pilots and what a cool little project everybody gets to make one significant change to it I think mine is going to be

[00:04:05]    the micro V antenna and so that's the plan for tonight it's Q&A live stream as they all are and then we're going to fly a bunch of batteries speaking of I got to get

[00:04:17]   the few batteries on the charger here wandering whoop is on 0702 32000 KV Motors so let's fly a bunch of 260s on it how's that sound I will charge 4

[00:04:34]   260s and two 300s and we'll blast this thing around the basement see how it is we took a quick look at it on Monday's live stream but we're going to really dive into it tonight I'm actually going to

[00:04:49]   put BetaFlight 4.5 on it so that I can hopefully bind to it cuz I could not get into bind mode to save my life towards the end of the stream on on Monday and that's going to be kind of

[00:05:04]   important if I'm going to fly it so I think the solution is going to be BetaFlight 4.5 what's cool is it's on a mobula 6 2024 AIO and so I'm just going to take a dump off of my mulus 6

[00:05:24]   2024 and that'll save me a bunch of time not a dump a diff sorry I'm going to take a diff I just wanted to say I'm going to take a dump if I'm honest so that's the plan for tonight

[00:05:38]   what do you think of that I'm exhausted my god I've I've I just got in the door in the chat Spaceman spiff was First Weber FPV was next bird person Frank Nicholas RC Thrills FPV toast Rays

[00:05:53]   Morton upshot Douglas 6 BR Anderson Brandon baked beans f adelic render cisal 70 everyday with Bruno wandering FPV Jake FPV Curtis Hayes Uriel 661 who else do we have here ail is in

[00:06:16]   the house 661 Brandon M beans mape with a $1.99 Super Chat thank you brother he says favorite 2S motor of all time and current I mean they're they're like there just sort of isn't

[00:06:34]   there's the so there's all kinds of different use use cases to use disgusting inner industry jargon that makes me want to vomit so I I I don't really have like a favorite

[00:06:50]   per se because there are there are two s motors for tiny whoops there's two s motors for toothpicks there's two s motors for cine whoop style rigs right and so they're kind of all over the

[00:07:03]   place mape tag me type cfpv and tell me what you're what you're looking to build and that'll be a that'll get you a much better response rather than just what's the best motor ever

[00:07:18]    tell me what you're building and I'll be able to recommend something that's a little bit better for you but make sure you tag me if you guys want to talk to me just type cfpv into

[00:07:28]   your message and for me it'll light up an orange you can do that with each other if you type if you if your chat message is like hey guys I was working in

[00:07:42]   Premiere earlier and I went to render a file and it's corrupt now the word render is going to show show up in Orange for the guy in chat named render so choose wisely how you

[00:08:01]   use the names of the people in the chat definitely don't use their names over and over and over definitely don't like force certain people's names in chat into as many of your into as many of

[00:08:18]   your messages as possible because that it'll light up an orange for them every single time and they'll get all excited and think that somebody's talking to them and then

[00:08:27]   they'll just see it's you being a jerk definitely don't do that to render and notice there's mape he says I wanted you to just choose one that came to mind as most memorable I haven't

[00:08:47]   really been in I haven't really been in the 2S world I was in the 2S world like 7 eight years ago and then that was and that was it I'm just recently revisiting 2S with

[00:09:04]   these 75mm tiny whoops and so there's a bunch the there there's a bunch of great 2S is interesting because it's double the voltage of 1S and so an awful lot of Motors that don't make

[00:09:22]   enough uh that aren't high enough KV for 1 s all of a sudden are awesome on 2S so there's a bunch that the if you just want one that sticks out what's super interesting is like the

[00:09:38]   mobula 7 1S elrs comes with HappyModel RS 0802 20,000 KV Motors a pretty much worthless motor on 1S but on 2S that motor is amazing on a lightweight 75mm analog tiny whoop

[00:10:01]    so that that motor like really just totally comes alive on 2S which is really really cool the BetaFPV 1102 and the RC and Power 102 18,000 KV Motors those blast on 2s

[00:10:21]   but that's more of like a tiny whoop motor you might not necessarily want to do those for like a c whoop or like a toothpick but 2S is pretty cool because like 1S has been the hype train for a

[00:10:40]   couple of years but the motor manufacturers haven't really played ball with those of us that are looking for rigs that actually fly really nice and have good power to weight

[00:10:52]   ratios and so when that when the input voltage doubles it's like it doesn't matter damn near any motor damn near any tiny motor becomes a fire breathing lunatic so it's pretty

[00:11:07]   cool pretty cool stuff we're we're we're lucky to have some really lightweight 2S batteries at tradies with a $10 Super Chat he says I feel like I opened Pandora's Box on the search of

[00:11:18]   the best 1S AIO someone told me high ampcs on one ass boards make the motors go slower have you seen this result no that's super weird I mean I don't know of any 1S aios that have anything more

[00:11:38]   than five amp fets on them though but I mean if that were true then Racers wouldn't be running 60 amp psc's right like if that were true then it would be true for for all esc's

[00:11:53]   so that seems completely insane that seems like something that somebody on Facebook book or Reddit is talking about and we joke all the time that those are the two worst places

[00:12:08]   to get decent info so that that sounds completely insane to me but sometimes insane things are are legit I'm trying to think if if I've ever run a 1S AIO with more

[00:12:26]   than 5 amp fets don't the Newbie drone AOS have 12 amp fets on them I think they might I don't know that sounds crazy to me but sometimes crazy things are real thank you for the generous Super Chat my

[00:12:46]   friend Ray FPV says what's up CiottiFPV and gangly gangers r ray also says Aly cat says hi hello Ray and Ally render says you got to grab an old PC and make a Nas or a Das I don't

[00:13:01]   know what those are but you'll never see me with a PC they make me want to jump off the goddamn building the worst part of working in an office as a project manager for

[00:13:12]   almost 20 years was having was the requirement of using a PC and it was just for stupid [@$#%] it was just for like surfing the internet and using Excel or or just running whatever

[00:13:23]   in-house software the various different companies that I worked for you used but it was always just absolute and utter torture like I I just I it's just a nightmare it's just a

[00:13:37]   nightmare like unless you really know what you're doing like if you spend a lot of time and you really figure out what you're doing uh but that's not me wandering FPV says what's your

[00:13:46]   take on gorilla whooping like FPV vegan stuff it's amazing and I wish I did more of it but I'm very lazy a says is there any props for 3D flying for 65mm there are not all of

[00:14:01]   the all of the tiny woop props are unidirectional um also there is a massive thrust and efficiency loss so when you spin a unidirectional prop backwards you

[00:14:21]   take a huge hit on Power and efficiency if you design a propeller that is omnidirectional I gu or biral there's a huge loss in efficiency and

[00:14:38]   thrust tiny whoops don't have enough thrust to spare where you'd be able to like make a bidirectional prop that had half decent performance in either direction what I'm saying so

[00:14:54]   I don't think 3D is is really a thing for 65mm rigs because again we just we don't have enough power to spare I would love to see somebody try it's apparently not that hard I'm

[00:15:08]   sure it would work but like I think it would be so underpowered if you got a bidirectional propeller I think it would be underpowered all the time if you just spun a unidirectional prop backwards I

[00:15:21]   think it would be so underpowered in the negative thrust direction that it's really it wouldn't even be 3D flying it would just be like you maybe stall it upside down but that would sort of be it

[00:15:32]    but we don't know till somebody tries map oh we got that Ray says there it is did you notice how CiottiFPV render space his videos flash FPV says I made a 40,000 KV motor with air 65 with

[00:15:55]   the 10 12 1210 by blades but but I can't seem to get the RPMs you were getting it looked like you were getting 60,000 any ideas um 60,000 is awful

[00:16:17]   high it's going to depend upon well so first and foremost there are two drastically different measures of RPM one of them is when you're in flight and then another one is when you're on the

[00:16:30]   bench also keep in mind that when I did some of the RPM testing I was using a bench power supply so no voltage sag whatsoever a solid four volts right so don't compare to that only compare

[00:16:47]   to the the flight footage where the OSD pops up afterwards and then the inflight RPM is heavily dependent upon how fresh your batteries are and then how much time you let it sit

[00:17:02]   at Full Throttle when I'm looking to get like a maximum a real good maximum rpm measurement I'll like line it up all the way in one corner upstairs and then I'll run it Full Throttle for like at

[00:17:15]   least a half a second to let the the the the the tiny [@$#%] accelerate as much as possible the the faster the tiny whoop is going the faster the incoming air is coming in and the more that will

[00:17:30]   allow the motors to really spin all the way up so if you're just sitting at the bench holding it cranking the motors up to full you're never going to get a lot of RPM because they're having to

[00:17:42]   take all of this static air and accelerate it down in when you let go of it and it starts accelerating forward that incoming air is going 10 20 30 miles an hour and that's going to help

[00:17:53]   it really unload and spin up to a super high RPM so maybe you're you're not doing one of those things and that would explain why you're getting a lower RPM wanding talked about that Uriel

[00:18:08]   says viers plantago ovata wiie Summit says two s is a blast love my analog mobul 8 also I seen three robins in my yard today in Indiana males or

[00:18:23]   females Uriel says C FPV and all eat more vibes eat more Vibes Craig says Nas equals network attached storus and agree Windows sucks network network attached storage that would be cool to

[00:18:40]   have a to have a hard drive on the on the Wi-Fi network here that'd be neat matter of fact I have one I have a time capsule I got to set time machine back up I haven't used that time capsule in

[00:18:56]   Forever game c says what's that white truck you have at the bottom shelf behind you white truck what white truck white truck white truck tell me more

[00:19:29]   white truck you have at the bottom shelf behind you render says render also saying what Nas is Jake F50 says super xhd X12 newbie drone most oh right of course the

[00:19:45]   X12 no that's [@$#%] the the X12 AIO has 12 amp fets on it and it produces every bit as much power I've actually tested specifically the X12 versus the 2g4 so 12 amp versus 5 amp

[00:20:02]   and they produce the exact same RPM the exact same everything so yeah I've specifically tested that and that is absolutely incorrect higher amp fets on 1S don't magically give you less RPM or

[00:20:14]   less power Craig says tiny whoop has X12 AO back in stock is that a good AO for 2 s75 MIM build it's a great AO for a 2S 75 mimet analog build but that's it the X12 has a VTX on board so that is

[00:20:32]   an analog specific AIO absolutely no reason to run that with an external VTX trady says right it does sound wrong they were saying the resistance in the higher amps made it talk slower to

[00:20:43]   the motors no I've I've very specifically tested that and that is incorrect there are AOS that just suck like the the hglrc Spectre AIO claims that it's 1 to 2S and it on 1S it is a disaster there's

[00:21:06]   another aiio that's as well on 1S it doesn't work all that well but then on 2S it works totally fine the Spectre runs great on 2S but on 1S it just blows and

[00:21:21]   so gam C says you have a why do you keep spelling it wi g h T am I missing something is is that a that's the second spelling error I thought it was just a spelling error for white the color

[00:21:41]   white if you're the only RC car I have oh my thighs are on [@$#%] fire the only RC RC car I have is this guy from Tiny woop.com this is the the tiny the tiny K truck

[00:22:02]    this is a I forget what scale this is but this is a k truck 600c K truck that tiny whoop very kindly sent me when they started selling them this is actually what started all of the

[00:22:17]   RC drift car Insanity tiny whoop sent this to me and Florence aelia Maggie's 14-year-old started driving it around and I started chasing it with a tiny whoop and I was like oh

[00:22:37]   my god that's way too fun and that's what made me look up local RC drift groups and find those guys and start chasing them and so that's the only groundbased RC car that I've got

[00:22:53]   I used to have a couple of kosho mini Z's when I was in college so we're going like 20 years ago now but I think I sold them I don't think I have them anymore they might be in a box

[00:23:06]   somewhere though Jake FPV says what issues have you had with the hdlc Spectre I have won on a 45mm 1S not 2S build and it seems perfect there are a couple of live streams with it basically it it

[00:23:24]   just it would not reliably spin the motors on 1S regardless of how high I put the idol and what I did in the ESC settings sent it back to get FPV they sent me another one it did the exact same thing

[00:23:41]    and then they refunded me and they said don't even bother sending it back you're not the only one that's having all these issues and then like months later I was doing a 2S analog build and

[00:23:52]   I was like let's try it I got it sitting here and it ran totally fine on 2S I was like oh okay that's that works so it's great for 2S but two in a row just would not run on 1 s if if

[00:24:04]   you want to take a look like I said there's there's live streams where you can watch for yourself it not work fil says I tried it and you're right upside down I can only hover and

[00:24:18]   it drains the battery it's going to be like the motors are going to be working as hard as they can 661 says did Rosser fix the OSD on the wandering whoop I don't know yet but I looked

[00:24:29]   at the OSD and it was a nightmare did did Rosser have this before me that's wild there was a bunch of stuff that was completely weird with the setup and so I'm going to pretty much wipe it

[00:24:45]   out and start fresh because I couldn't get it in the bind mode the OSD was absolutely ridiculous it's whatever and so yeah I'm going to set it up the way that my whoops are set up and

[00:25:03]   maybe whoever gets it next will start praying to the Church of throttle Expo because I'm going to put a bunch on here so speaking of the wandering whoop let's dive inwandering whoop.com

[00:25:17]    explains that congrats to you lucky pilot temporary caretaker of the W wandering group have a blast and share your footage in the upload link below you're allowed to make one significant

[00:25:27]   change to the aircraft which is why there are so many extra parts included in the package also take one of the aces as a momento stickers will be coming in the mail when you send this whoop to

[00:25:37]   the next pile I'll be happy to cover shipping blah blah blah blah Tre please try not to lose this aircraft I want to do a lot of these traveling aircraft but I hope this one can make it

[00:25:47]   to all eight Pilots upload footage here so our one big change is going to be the the antenna it's just got a regular whip antenna right now I've got a bunch of these custom

[00:26:01]   shortened uh ort micro vs which I would love to see on here and so let's actually do that right now I think I can I think I can maybe not have to take this thing all the way apart to get in

[00:26:15]   there to the antenna but I don't know let's let's see let me get the the old nerd goggles wait hold on let me grab a let me grab one of these tenas

[00:26:30]   first and then oh I I have the oh what no I'm going to use one of these black ones actually I have I'm going to put one of the regular ones on I've switched a bunch of my rigs

[00:26:46]   over to the to the to the shortened ones and then I've had a bunch of these longer ones so I'm actually going to put a regular 50 mm on here cool

[00:26:58]   I hope I hope it's okay that I'm like putting my own mod onto it there there's a bunch of stuff in the that comes in the box like a bunch of different Motors and whatnot but these motors are

[00:27:09]   great and so I I want to leave these motors on here and plus this this um this antenna is amazing the the ort micro is just such a good antenna super

[00:27:36]   lightweight pretty much indestructible and it just really works well and so we're going to stuff this in there I think I'm actually going to run it out the top here to keep it out of

[00:27:53]   the to keep it out of the propellers that'll be kind of cool all right so let me really carefully get this threaded down in there and come on

[00:28:19]   now get in there you all right so the UFL is where it needs to be let's just get it clicked in and there it is all right cool so that's good the antenna is sticking straight up which is kind of

[00:28:40]   obnoxious but as it gets smacked it'll it'll knock down a little bit and what this will do is this will keep it out of the propellers if you run the the micro out like this normal hole it

[00:28:54]   has enough length this is why I got the shortened ones it has enough length to go in the to go into the in between the props and the duct which is super annoying and so I'm using this

[00:29:05]   slightly longer black one the only ones that I have that are shortened are white and this thing is all black and so I'd rather keep it all blacked out but that'll work awesome and the the

[00:29:15]   higher up the antenna sits the better the uh the better it performs so cool all right so that's my mod to the to the wandering whoop now we're just going to get it flying properly

[00:29:29]    let me this is the elrs antenna here let me just get this routed a little bit better it's kind of silly the way that it's routed right now all right that's looking much

[00:29:44]   better push this over a little bit here all right cool the antenna is now kind of like holding down some of these wires for the LEDs which is kind of slick so that's looking pretty good now

[00:30:02]   all right we're also going to swap these propellers out for a set of pink ones because trans wrs or I bites am I right am I right oh I have some extras coming on that

[00:30:22]   order but we will use some of these brand new 1.2 by 0 9 the motors themselves are the moon Travelers 0702 32,000 KV which are light blue and so now we're going to put some pink props on and

[00:30:42]    all of our in in in honor of all of our transgender Brethren and Brethren Nets if that's a thing I don't remember did these HQ 1.2x 0.9 drop straight on or do we have to

[00:31:03]   drill them out let's see oh I'm going to put a I might put a pin Vie in here with I'll at least put a couple of drill bits in the Box for folks oh when I send this thing out I'm going to

[00:31:17]   put all kinds of [@$#%] in here that's super that's super helpful very cool all right so we're going to take the Clone popper here and get these propellers

[00:31:37]   off all right what is this setup props out okay I'm going to change it to props in what do you think of that world okay if Rosser had this I want to take a look at where the tune is at that's

[00:31:58]   interesting although this AIO does not have does not have blackbox and so I don't know about that he wouldn't have been able to do like a proper tune on it so he might

[00:32:17]   have just done like a preset or something we'll see we'll have a gander okay so these are going back in the Box these are the old school HQ YOLO props I'm also going to put

[00:32:36]   this whip antenna in the boxes well no no no actually there's a there's a bag yeah here it is there's a bag of parts that comes with it so I'll put I'll put everything in here so there

[00:32:51]   we go with that antenna and then oh there's also a couple of bags of propellers and so we've got the 129s the 1208s here we go oh no these are the 1.2 by oh okay hold on I got to look at I got to look

[00:33:11]   at these props with a with a loop let's see what these what these propellers actually are these are well the green so the so there are mismatched props on this so this green one here is the old

[00:33:27]   school 31 mm HQ ultral light which is like 1.2 pitch and then these gray ones are the new school 1.2 by 0.9 so there were two 1.2 pitch props on here and then there were two. n pitch

[00:33:48]   props on here that is too funny so I'm going to see if I have have a bag that has HQ 31 mm on it boy that's super funny God only knows who did that God only

[00:34:16]   knows who switched it to have mismatched propellers that's a really funny thing because we we do all this stuff and we we make sure everything is absolutely

[00:34:27]   perfect on these Rigs and then the PID Loop will like adjust for completely mismatched propellers right and it's just it's hysterical how and I mean it's worth it's worth it to

[00:34:42]   be sensitive of that kind of stuff because it's going to perform its best if everything is is running correctly but it just goes to show you that like these things will self correct PID

[00:34:58]   Loop is a hell of a tool and it'll it'll correct a lot of stuff that is wrong with thesethat is absolutely hysterical that it had totally mismatched propellers on it

[00:35:10]   all right so we're going to go props in and I'm going to fix that in BetaFlight let's see these go on there I'm actually going to drill them out a little bit I I'm having to

[00:35:23]   push a little bit too hard on that I'm just going to hit's with the 0.99 millimeter drill bit just a little tiny bit to free them up a little just so that we don't wreck these

[00:35:40]    Moon traveler motors which are some of my favorites and that is all it takes just a super quick little run up and down I took pictures of the pin VI today so with in the next day or two they

[00:36:00]   will be up on the Etsy store SE fpv.one ways that you guys can support me this is a completely crowdfunded thing that I've got going on here so if you have a couple extra dollars each and every

[00:36:16]   month if you want to see me test more stuff throw them my way over on the patreon channel or buy something from my Etsy store or whatever lotss of different ways that you can support

[00:36:28]   the insanity that is being a full-time FPV donkey all right so they are ever so slightly drilled out that's much better much much much much better so now we are going to get this

[00:36:46]   thing all kinds of light blue and pink and we will take a picture of it at some point by the by the pink and light blue frames and the and the trans flags up on top of the

[00:37:04]    up on top of the thingy here so there we go man that's looking way better already come on now we got that micro sticking all straight up all silly like boy is that bothering

[00:37:21]   me what can I do what can I do about that I can can kind of Route it if I route the wire out through there do I have enough room I wonder kind of looks like there's enough

[00:37:43]   room hold on let me try something let me try something here real quick this could be this could be hyper custom here we go let's see get out of there come on now there we go

[00:38:03]   okay so what if I run the antenna out through there and then down through there through that part of the frame canopy rather could that be the magical

[00:38:24]   magic I think it might be hold on just get that routed in there and now let's see I'll show you guys what I'm doing I I know that you can't see it but just give me a minute and I'll show you what

[00:38:37]    what I'm up to oh that'll totally reach oh that's pretty cool well so this is like an advertisement for the longer antenna right here this is the 50 mm

[00:38:55]   micro and if you're using this EX exact canopy and this exact AIO you can do this and it will hold the antenna really really nicely let me just get this UFL snapped down real

[00:39:13]   quick there we go oh that is pretty slick right there okay all right look at this look what I did so the 50 mm antenna is long enough to run like

[00:39:28]   that and now there's no way it's getting down in the props and it's all nice and tucked away what I mean and look we still got some movement up here that's pretty

[00:39:39]   cool see it hell all right so I guess at this point we just need to get this thing all set up BetaFlight and bound and we will fly it these are my point

[00:40:05]    n are they no they're not these are the old school ones okay BetaFlight coming up so I need the other one which is here so let me pull the diff off off of this

[00:40:28]   first also I want to take a look at what version of what version of BetaFlight this guy's on so if you're G to if you have two identical aios and you want to do a diff

[00:40:44]   for from one to the other first and foremost hook each one of them up go into the CLI and type status St a t and then take a look at where the hell is

[00:41:09]   it I guess it's not status I mean one of the things you want to look at is which gyro it has right so BMI 270 this is mine so take a look at the gyro and then I guess

[00:41:23]    I guess at that point you can just type diff at the top of the diff it's going to give you the is this the this is just the this is the target that's

[00:41:40]   installed that's just the target these two have different targets which is which is kind of weird what is this on this is on 4.4 hold on a second does this have the bind

[00:42:00]   button on 4.4 and the other one doesn't it does not okay no this one's this one does not have it let me try something well no it's a different Target I I was going to try to take the diff off of

[00:42:17]   this one and drop it onto the other one um but no we're not going to do that I'm going to set the one whoop up from scratch I think unplugging mine it doesn't take very

[00:42:33]   long and plugging in The Wanderer it doesn't work Craig if you if you want go to the go to the previous go to Monday's live stream and you can watch 15 minutes of all the

[00:42:51]   different things that you can do to bind rigs and none of them work sometimes when elrs gets bound to one thing it's hard to get it's like holds on to that bind and it

[00:43:07]   won't go into binding mode it's kind of obnoxious but just take my word for it I do this for a living but this is the big problem is that there's no there's no bind button here it's super annoying and

[00:43:23]   that it's I swear to God some I swear I've had 4 point rigs on 4.4 that have had the bind button I I could be wrong though uh so that's just silly right it's weird man this

[00:43:47]   is on a different fir wow the pit Loop is all the way down at 1.6 too this thing is set up super weird and the the target is different crazy B f4s let's see what happens when we go to update firmware

[00:44:04]   and we go to autod detect Oh see now that's weird the autod detect is picking up crazy B F4 sx1 1280 but then when I hook mine up the autod detect is picking that more generic Target well

[00:44:27]   hold on I think I need to quit and restart BetaFlight let's see there we go all right so update firmware and then look right Auto detect what that's

[00:44:54]   weird why w't it auto detect wow okay I haven't had that happen in a while interesting it's on this generic stm32 f411 Target which is kind of odd but I mean FES fine weird okay whatever

[00:45:25]   I'll do a scratch setup well no actually let me look at the ah interesting Brer brers B Bean says autod detect only works if the target name in The Loaded configurator is in

[00:45:38]   the repo ah that generic Target is not I did not know that very cool let's connect to this and I'm curious where the what the hell is this about the tune is a mess oh my God this thing

[00:45:54]   must have flown oh well never mind I didn't see the no the tune is still a mess what is this this is super weird why is the master multiplier cranked up so high but then the damping and

[00:46:06]   tracking and stickers what a weird tune when I look at the numbers though that this this would not have flown well at all with with the these gains so low look how much feed forward there is wow what a

[00:46:21]   weird tune on this super strange defaul is BetaFlight rates I don't think anybody was flying this I I oh and then look at this what the hell the oh the dynamic Notch is turned off because the PID Loop

[00:46:45]    this thing is a hot mess I wish that I could b i I wish that I could get bound to it to see how it would fly like this I mean I guess that I could

[00:47:07]    oh man I would love to see I would love to fly it like this and then put a proper setup on it and then you guys could see kind of before and

[00:47:18]   after I guess I can I I can just hold on I could just do a quick screenshot of that this so let's just take a screenshot of that and then we'll come in here and take a screenshot of this and

[00:47:39]   then I'll put it on to 4.5 which doesn't change really anything about the way that it's going to fly and then we'll put this same very strange tune on it and then I'll put

[00:47:52]   my normal kind of setup on it and it should be quite a bit better all right cool so this pit Loop frequency being at 1.6 is super weird and then it the the the

[00:48:10]   filtering is very odd well I guess it's pretty much just like stock filtering what a what a what a strange tune on here okay we're going to use Brandon baked bean Brandon's

[00:48:23]   baked beans magical BMI 270 tun as we always do cuz this well let's see actually let's see if it's is a BMI 270 cuz it's 3.2 but to figure that out for sure you type status into the CLI and then it'll

[00:48:37]   tell you the gyro right here very interesting all right so we're going to update this thing autod detect 4.5.1 and I'm just going to redo everything we're just going to do this from

[00:48:59]   scratch it'll be fine flash firmware we'll create a backup what the hell or not there it goes throw it on the desktop save it all right cool so there is a backup God forbid we need it hopefully yep

[00:49:22]   there is a backup all right so let's get this thing going all right let's get transmitter ready and put my OSD on it so that it's actually flyable we'll put crash recovery on it

[00:49:52]   too yeah yeah we'll do all the things Brandon says when you need to bind to elrs flash it with the elrs web flasher I was I was trying to not I'm hoping I don't have to do that you know

[00:50:06]   what I think I'm gonna have to do that God damn it the other the other nice thing though about putting this on to 4.5 is that I'll I I think I'll have that field for for binding phrase

[00:50:19]   we're going to see in a minute let's get the let's accelerate the calob bromer real quick here get it as flat as I can on the desk all right there we go with that ports should not need to be

[00:50:36]   touched configuration 3.2 that's what we want craft name Wanderer arming angle 180 not 1,800 air mode permanently on great LED strip I don't think it uses that but I mean

[00:50:56]   it's what whatever RX lost RX set turn these switches on so that your ESC beepers will work and that's all we need to do in here yeah Brandon Brandon beans is chat talking about how it the The

[00:51:19]   Binding phrase might be stuck in there I'm hoping that it's not also on the setup tab you want to just check it you want to go nose down nope so the board is not oriented

[00:51:30]   properly so when I go nose down it's going right side down so I want to rotate this 90° so we're going to go into configuration and then for the yaw degrees we're going to I think it's

[00:51:43]   actually 270 that it wants let's take a look save and reboot reconnect and now we're going to go nose down nose up roll left roll right y'all left y'all right so now

[00:51:58]   we're correct usually you don't have to do that but sometimes these manufacturers put the gyros in a weird orientation Power and Battery this is all jacked up we're going to go

[00:52:13]   to 3.1 and 3.3 isn't that what I usually set it at I think capacity 300 save that fail safe we're going to go to 3 seconds because it's a tiny whoop what's the worst that's going to

[00:52:29]   happen it's going to get tangled up in somebody's hair reconnect pit tuning we're going to come back to that receiver binding phrase come on baby come on be cool and look now we also have the bind receiver

[00:52:45]   button down here but we shouldn't even need it we're going to save and reboot and I'm going to power on the transmitter and we're going to see if this damn thing

[00:52:57]   will bind come on you little bastard oh no let's try the refresh trick and then save nope oh that's super annoying oh wait a second isn't this supposed to

[00:53:19]   be hold on it's not it's supposed to be seral hold on let me try that I think I remember it being Cal I can plug mine in and take a look oh but that's right then I can't use the the

[00:53:41]   effing thing in the place but see now wait's is cereal hold on let me just plug it's just so much easier to plug mine in and take a look at the setup my God why do these targets have the

[00:54:04]   wrong never mind I cannot believe that these targets have the wrong [@$#%] set in there come on now don't be a dick BetaFlight screw you all right come on come on come on

[00:54:22]   come on come on there we go all right connect ports yep it is serial so it's art one what why is this set to VTX display port what why is it what display port why is that like

[00:54:50]   that that's super weird isn't it what 661 says this is the bar to ENT you talk about it like oh boy it is just outrageous all right so you are at one is now on serial RX and so let's

[00:55:15]   let's see here now I do have the that's weird why didn't I have the bind receiver button a minute ago all right let's see if this will bind um although wait oh I really

[00:55:32]   want I couldn't get the I couldn't get the Lis script to work right the other night either though well I guess I'll try it again okay Nomad bind see script syntax error bad

[00:55:54]   argument wny are you like this oh I hate Lis scripts so hard no the Lis scripts don't work okay so I need to use the the elrs website Bing Bong to get a to

[00:56:22]   get a binding phrase in here this is this is absolutely insane uh okay elrs web flasher and so we want receiver and then I guess we might as well put it on 353 Hardware vendor HappyModel there it

[00:56:53]   is radio frequency 2.4 four Hardware Target it would be this one HappyModel aiio yep happy mod AIO and next bind phrase there we go FCC region whatever we don't need any

[00:57:18]   of that flashing method let's do BetaFlight pass through hopefully that works advance settings NOP we're good all right let's see if that will work

[00:57:35]   connect come on do do it do it do it come on you can do this Express lrs be cool be cool elrs be cool I've missed a ton of chat comments I apologize friends Bren Anderson says I've been making

[00:58:02]   bends and antennas and then E6000 with a piece of tape to hold it till set that's a really cool idea God is that a cool idea oh we can do things look at that and

[00:58:15]   we updated it updated BetaFlight updated elrs so now since my transmitter's turned on it should be boun although beta flight's being a jerk again let's get it out of

[00:58:33]   there open this back up come on now Jim on now H all right let me power cycle the uh whoop okay there we go oh it's glorious would you just look look at it all right so we got to get aetr changed

[00:58:59]   to teer we're going to put a little bit of dead band in here we'll do three points three points stick low threshold down to a th000 most transmitters should be fine with that stick high threshold

[00:59:09]   up to 2,000 save it and now put our sticks bottom left make sure all three of these numbers that are changing right now are less than a thousand both sticks top right make sure all of these numbers

[00:59:21]   that are changing right now are above 2,000 and we're golden that's how you get the most possible throttle resolution let's save all that and let's go to the modes Tab and

[00:59:38]   I'm just going to do these manually and so we're going to put arm here we're going to put Horizon on this switch Horizon in the all the way up position we're going to do beeper on

[00:59:52]   this switch here aux 3 all the way down we're going to go we're not going to do OSD disable I'm going to do the secret thing for that flip over after crash we're going to

[01:00:11]   put on this switch in the middle position it's already there we're going to do a little bit of launch control on this switch in the middle just for funsies and let's save that

[01:00:24]   although there's a I think that they've got the I think that there's LEDs hooked up to the Beeper if I'm not mistaken on here where are these LEDs connected

[01:00:43]   to they're connected to the buzzer pad and so that but I don't want to I I don't want to turn the Beeper on in midair because it's going to beep the esc's as

[01:01:04]   well that's cool when I turn the Beeper on that's just one LED though what are the other LEDs doing let me throw a battery on here and see what

[01:01:18]   happens so it's now powered up I can't have the Beeper on when I fly it the other LEDs might be broken I guess I don't know why there would only be the

[01:01:34]   one unless does it have addressable LEDs I don't think so I don't think there's a I don't these are not un addressable LED I think the the the other LEDs are just burned out there should be four LEDs in

[01:02:02]   all four corners I think the wires have just broken or something interesting I okay I mean it's very obviously hooked up to the Beeper pad and I just turned the Beeper on and only

[01:02:21]   that one blinks I've never really done that before I've never hooked LEDs up to a beeper pad although that's kind of a really cool idea to hook LEDs up to a beeper pad because

[01:02:34]   then when you turn the Beeper on to find the damn thing it'll sit there and Flash huh what else is happening here let's save this adjustments here's where I'm going to set up the Magical

[01:02:50]   Mystery OSD thing and that's it you just saw me do it enable it with a switch aux 2 give a full range OSD profile selection and then aux 2 here save it so when you put your aux 2 switch into this

[01:03:10]   range it's going to make your OSD profile go from profile one to two to three and then in your OSD you're going to set you're going to use these three different profiles

[01:03:21]   here's the three different profiles so with a switch in position one you'll get one setup of OSD in switch position two you'll get the second setup three you get the third setup what I do is I put

[01:03:34]   all of the OSD elements on on switch positions one and two and then on switch position three the third column I only have warnings so I can put this aux 2 switch all the way towards me that

[01:03:48]   triggers element three which only has the warnings so it's a clean OSD until the low battery warning when I move this switch into the middle or up for Horizon mode I have my

[01:04:01]   full OSD and so that's how you get clean OSD but you still get a low battery warning in the modes tab there is a mode that will wipe out the OSD but you don't get that warning so you

[01:04:15]   end up running your batteries down to Chinatown and you destroy batteries that way I've got a handy little chunk of CLI text here with my OSD so I can just go in here and

[01:04:31]   dump that in and then while I'm at it I have a little chunk of text for crash recovery that I'll grab and put in there and then I will even grab brand is baked beans magical BMI

[01:04:46]   270 one line of Set gyro Hardware low pass filter option two in here as well and that's everything that I need to do in the CLI so that's now all good to go connect here we're going to go

[01:05:03]   into the filters and we're going to set the rest of uh Brandon's magical actually no it starts in presets and so the first thing we do is the clean 4.5 filter settings for clean

[01:05:23]   with RPM filtering we're also going to check to make sure this has blue J but for right now we're just going to pick that 4.5 filter settings for clean build with RPM filtering yep save

[01:05:35]   and reboot well while we're here let's go to ESC configurator we're going to have to put a battery on this thing real quick done I can hear that it's playing the Blue Jay song but let's take a look

[01:05:51]   at what version of Blue Jay it's on I need to turn my transmitter off for that all right and come on there we go Blue jit hold on reconnect read

[01:06:21]   settings W come on now why is the fourth ESC not coming to life what's happening here hold on let's disconnect everything make sure beta flate is disconnected too all right I'm going to disconnect

[01:06:38]   the whoop we're going to plug it back in I'm going to give it voltage from a fully charged battery this time that was just a storage charged battery should have been fine but read

[01:06:53]   settings ah there we go okay okay so this is on Blue j19 which sucks we're going to get it on to the magical .16 so flash all sc's flash local firmware and I'm looking for let me

[01:07:07]   just double check oh5 and so we're going to come in here and we're going to go to I actually made a folder somewhere with all of these on it's in quar cards and then ESC

[01:07:27]   firmware and I'm looking for oh5 48.6 there we go oh5 48k version .16 that is now flashing we'd probably be fine putting it to. 21 but 0.19 sucks

[01:07:48]   08.19 .17 they suck it's not even telling me what the it just says 0.19 it doesn't even tell me what was it at 96 was it at 48 was it at 24 the setup was really weird

[01:08:03]   on this thing Willie Summit says lay the antenna between Motors one and two or three and four bread tie to the frame no chance of props are being yanked out that's an

[01:08:16]   interesting idea I wouldn't want to add weight of those bread ties but I mean that would totally work Denzel the turble says they should call it the your mom whoop because it really gets around

[01:08:25]   great more shot says wait is it serial or SPI we talked about that Craig says you can type bind in the CLI unfortunately not Euro says back to factory settings yep Mort upshot says if if roster had it

[01:08:42]   last make sure he actually flew it's there were things that screamed to me it hasn't been flown wow there are all kinds of weird things going on the minimum startup power is cranked all the way up

[01:08:57]   here but then the maximum startup power is down lower than the minimum this is what the hell is this about I can't move it up there is there is a lot of really weird stuff on this

[01:09:18]   thing why can't I move that up what is oh that's weird what was that aboutthis thing is super strange all right so we're going to move this up to like 1100 and 1200

[01:09:35]   that's fine motor timing is at medium high no Rosser did not have this he would have set it to medium RPM Power Protection is up at 11 that's weird usually it's at 9 isn't it

[01:09:47]    let's turn these guys up a little bit for a little bit more volume out of the Beeper Beacon delay 2 minutes break on stop and right settings this thing is this there is some really weird stuff

[01:10:04]   going on in this thing but it's now pretty much good to go the only other preset is going to be Express lrs 250 I do this also because because it adds some stick smoothing in so we're

[01:10:28]   going to go to HD freestyle pick and this is going to add a really nice amount of stick smoothing not too much not too little and it's going to optimize it for elrs 250 so it's going to smooth out the

[01:10:42]   the stair stepping in the in that high of a B rate pit tuning let's do this to get started on I'm going to put this weird ass tune that was on it and then we're going

[01:10:59]   to fly a half a battery and then we're going to put a proper tune on it and maybe you'll be able to see the difference maybe not but let's recreate this Ultra

[01:11:13]   strange tune that was on here 6.6 feed forward doesn't really matter all that much but whatever the dmax was turned all the way off which I really don't like but

[01:11:27]   whatever the drift wobble was at 0.95 that doesn't matter let's just leave it at one the pitch damping was turned down which is super strange because there's more weight on the pitch axis I I this

[01:11:43]   is so confusing and then the master multiplier was jacked all the way up to 1.55 yeah odd but we'll we'll give it a shot iterm relax We're we're going to turn this down to 10 because it's not a

[01:11:56]   race rig Dynamic damping let's do 30 and 30 motor output limit 100% Dynamic idle we're not going to use because it's only on 1 s let's save this I'm going to put my rates on here actual rates fantastic

[01:12:12]   40 40 700 700 expo. 77 throttle Expo these motors don't need a lot we're just going to do that and then I'm going to take a guess at the hover point being

[01:12:30]   35 why is there no rates pre there it is filter settings I took that screenshot let's see this ultimate strangeness gyro L pass one was on oh I don't even know if this is

[01:12:48]   going to fly no I'm not going to do these weird filter settings I'm going to use Brandon's magical baked beans uh BMI 270 so we're going to turn off the gyro low pass because we've already made the

[01:13:04]   change in the CLI so these old filter settings might not have even worked at all we're going to change this to pt2 we're going to turn the gyro slider off here and then we're going to do

[01:13:17]   135 for the cut off so gyro low pass 2 135 pt2 great great one harmonic on the gyro RPM filter and then the the dynamic dynamic Notch we can leave the same although I'm going to

[01:13:35]   crank the max frequency up to 800 to make sure it covers it dterm slider we're going to dterm filter we're going to use the slider and I can usually pretty safely run it at 1.2 so

[01:13:46]   we'll do that and then save it all right so that's looking good these cut offs are awful low aren't they hold on let's go to auto no no that looks about right okay that's fine modes we did adjustments we did

[01:14:11]   Motors let's get these motors spinning the right direction they should be but maybe not motor Direction I understand the risks wizard start and spin motor one is oh no I do have to change

[01:14:28]   the the motor Direction motor one is wrong motor 2 is wrong motor 3 is wrong what are four is wrong so we need to reverse all four of them let's see if this combination of firmware and

[01:14:39]   anything nope they're all going the wrong direction so once again the motor Direction thing does not work we're going to connect here and we're going to go from reverse

[01:14:55]   reversed to normal normal to reversed normal to reversed reversed to normal right settings and now the motors are going to spin in the right direction connect let's just double check it

[01:15:12]   though ah we can double check it in here motor one is correct motor 2 is correct motor 3 is correct motor four is correct huzzah motor idle is at 5.5 that's great

[01:15:29]   the motor pole is incorrect let's fix that there we go all right I think we're pretty much good OSD I dumped that all in it should be yep it's all good to go

[01:15:53]   here okay everything's looking right what oh right ports tab MSP plus display port I guess this is on that weird open VTX [@$#%] let's see connect video transmitter there we go

[01:16:21]   fat shark 4 hell no race 8 25 million Watts on until first arm oh device not ready though [@$#%] sticks I might have to get a VTX table for

[01:16:44]   this oh boy all right well ah hold on let's power cycle it real quick all right so plug back in you rat there we go all right let's see connect video transmitter device

[01:17:17]   is ready race 8 25 on until first arm low power disarm Happy Days Are Here here again cool LED strip we're not using sensors no blackbox doesn't have it I think we're good to go let's test out

[01:17:36]   this weird Oddball PID tune this should be a flying rig Famous Last Words let's hook up a little 260 and see what's what vrx working it's is indeed right let's see if I missed

[01:18:08]    anything why is the buzzer constantly on oh there it is now it's bound hey the it's constantly flashing the buzzer though no it's not interesting so the other the other LEDs must be blown

[01:18:48]   up because it's just it's only flashing that one but that's interesting that it's flashing that one I don't know why it's doing that super

[01:19:04]   strange that it's that it's flashing that led off the buzzer pad I never used the buzzer pad so I like I don't know cool we're good does it have video we do have video look

[01:19:19]   at that let's fly this Oddball tune and see what's what watch the tune's going to be like absolutely the greatest tune on on planet Earth oh I don't have any OSD though what's that about where's

[01:19:33]   the where's the OSD at hold on why don't I have OSD did I forget to turn that on in the in the configurator tab why else would I not have OSD that's super strange let's

[01:19:56]   see nope it's on in here let's D the elements are correct one and two and then three for warnings so that's right what aux 2 switch is working what's going on little buddy

[01:20:22]   where's your OSD at oh I know what it is it's probably set to HD yep get it over to ntsc and now we will magically have OSD after we power cycle it disconnect unplug replug it might be pal I doubt it

[01:20:48]   but let's just take a look nope now we're good ntsc is right hey all right let's fly this unusual tune here we go this is on a little lava 260 mAh battery that is already down

[01:21:17]   to point 4.1 volts oh boy this tune's a mess so it's Bob in on oh wow I haven't I haven't flown a tiny whoop on a oh I was going to say that's a that's a bit much it was in Horizon

[01:21:35]   mode I was going to say man I haven't flown a tiny whoop on a tune this bad in a long time see see that massive hit of propwash we're going to get rid of that in a minute

[01:21:52]   whoa okay wish I'd plan that these props have these props have such a specific I don't know if I've ever run these props on a 32,000 KV motor I usually run these on like much higher KV

[01:22:16]   Motors hey the tune's not that bad I mean that prop wash was pretty obvious right that's I mean that's pretty ugly but that's super easy that's just because the the sliders are turned down

[01:22:35]   so low think fly is great I mean it's a it's an 18 G rig with like my I don't know if they're my favorite Motors but I probably have oh I almost got into that wee bed gate I have more

[01:22:57]   batteries through these Moon traveler Motors than any other motor and so there like if I'm going if I'm going to be used to any motor I'm going to be used to this

[01:23:14]   one came close to that crash symbol ah hey I assume this is the fxt camera because of how bright it is ah i s man I saw the the side of the I saw the side of that gate coming

[01:23:43]   and I was just I I just had this moment of it's too late I'm not even going to try to make a correction it's go it's going to hit's oh I ran this battery down too low oh sorry battery

[01:23:55]   2 minutes and 25 out of a battery that was like a little bit discharged already let's get the tune fixed super simple if your if your tiny whoop is flying it's very

[01:24:08]   very very easy to fix it you don't need black box you don't need any any confusing mumbo jumbo nonsense first and foremost tiny whoops hold on let me actually unplug it for this tiny whoops

[01:24:21]   are very uh very evenly balanced in terms of weight when you look at it like this and you look at how the weight is spread front to back okay you've got a little

[01:24:40]   lightweight camera that's a little bit front of the center line but like the canopy is perfectly in the center you rotate it like this same kind of deal the the weight is like right in the

[01:24:51]   middle here and so tiny whoop are not very nose heavy they're not tail heavy until you put a battery on them when you put a battery on them and we'll do that will be super drastic with a giant

[01:25:06]   wee bed 465 when you put a battery on here now you're adding a whole bunch of weight to the pitch axis only right you hold it sideways like this look at all this weight that's on the pitch axis but it's

[01:25:23]   not on the RO roll axis so on the roll axis all of the weight is centralized and so that's going to allow it to roll a lot more freely on the pitch

[01:25:36]   axis all this battery weight is spread far towards the rear and far towards the front obviously we're not going to run this battery but even a little 260 mAh battery just look at the battery

[01:25:52]   right look at how the battery is spreading its weight on the pitch access axis versus on the roll axis right and so you want so because you have more weight on the pitch axis you want to

[01:26:08]   have more PID Authority on the on the pitch axis which is one of the most confusing things about this tune this T the tune that this thing had on it's has less pit Authority on the pitch axis

[01:26:23]   so it's going to be extra lazy on the pitch axis because the pids are turned down and because it's got more weight on the pitch axis so we're going to fix that among other

[01:26:37]   things we're going to grab another 260 mAh battery but we're going to plug into into beta F we could technically fix this in the OSD but we're not going to so let's hook this thing up here

[01:26:53]   and and hop into BetaFlight and so in order to fix that problem with the pitch axis it's these two sliders right here pitch damping and Pitch tracking if these sliders are at

[01:27:08]   1.0 it's not doing anything they're not they're at 0. n so it's taking the pids and it's bringing the pitch pids down to 90% of the Roll pids on the Dain and then this one 95% on the pi and feed

[01:27:27]   forward and we just don't want that that that just makes no sense for the way that a tiny whoop has its weight distributed I I don't find that you have to really go bananas on these I

[01:27:38]   find that putting these both up to 1.1 is damn near perfect if the pitch axis still feels more lazy than the roll axis then bring it from 1.1 up to 1.2 I pretty much always put these at 1.1 and

[01:27:54]   it just makes the it's makes the rig feel balanced front back versus left right and that's what we're going for that's that's what I want I want it to kind of feel the same

[01:28:05]   all around the dynamic damping dmax was zeroed out this is gon to what I'm just going to change the I'm just going to add the dynamic damping back in and we're going to fly it and

[01:28:18]   see if a bunch of that I've been meaning to do this for a long ass time we're gonna see if the dynamic damping turning that back on is enough to get rid of that prop wash that we just had

[01:28:31]   let's just check this super quick I am going to end up moving the the the top two sliders up because they are way too low and I'm going to move that Master multiplier down because it's

[01:28:43]   just kind of weird that that's cranked all the way up but let's see if the if the dynamic damping is enough to get this thing not prop washing as hard as it just was why do I not

[01:28:59]   have battery voltage there it goes that was weird all right so let's see let's see if the prop wash is any better not really it's not any worse though it's maybe a little bit better

[01:29:23]   not that much better that was kind of a hard hit's still there it is I'm pretty sure it is a little bit better though all right now we're going to fix it now we're going to fix the propep

[01:29:40]   wash all the way and just kind of make this tune a little bit's actually going to be a much simpler tune is what we're going to do so the dynamic damping with with the pids as

[01:29:54]   low as they are it's not multiplying enough I I would I could Pro well let's see again I've been meaning to show you guys what dynamic damping does these pit gains are so low that

[01:30:11]   this a value of 1.1 here on the dynamic damping it's not enough let's go all the way up to like [@$#%] it let's Max it these again these pit gains are so that I'm going to have to really

[01:30:27]   bring the dynamic damping way the hell up for it to have enough of an effect so let's see let's see if that eats the prop wash if you wanted a rig that eats prop wash but then cruises around with very

[01:30:44]   very very low pit gains for like maximum Authority U I'm sorry maximum efficiency rather this would be what you would do you would crank the the dynamic damping up up like

[01:30:59]   crazy and then in the scenario that it's in prop wash it'll drastically okay so now the dynamic damping is actually up too high we're getting like weird intermittent flutters but what's

[01:31:19]   interesting is it's eating most of the prop wash the prop wash is almost gone not quite there's still a little bit see how much better it is see it's still there you could really see it

[01:31:36]   on that one but here's what's happening that's actually super interesting I i' like I said I've I've been meaning to crank the dynamic damping all the way up so what dynamic

[01:31:49]   damping does is that it raises the D gain when the when it comes off set point set point is where your sticks are you don't when when you do a prop wash turn you don't go to

[01:32:09]   try to create that prop wash your sticks are centered and you just Hammer the throttle and so when a rig starts to prop wash it is coming off set point the rig comes off set point more

[01:32:25]   often than that though like when you move the sticks when you move the sticks it's actually coming off of set point and so when you crank the dynamic damping way up when you move

[01:32:39]   the sticks it's like really it's increases the Dain like crazy and so what I had just now is that every time I move the sticks it would flutter for a split second but because I would move

[01:32:54]   the stick it has now come off set point it's going to Mega boost that Dain it's going to give it too much Dain the rig is going to rotate into where the sticks are that's going to get

[01:33:07]   it back on set point and so now it's going to stop oscillating and then it's going to get into prop wash it's going to come off set point in prop wash it's going to increase the [@$#%] out

[01:33:18]   of the Dain again and that's going to eat the prop wash the problem is is there's that delay it has to come off set point and then it has to crank the dains up and then it has to fix it so

[01:33:33]   what we what I hope you guys could see I can see it in the goggles God knows if it comes through the YouTube and 720 and all that [@$#%] on the really weak tune with no Dynamic Dain with

[01:33:48]   no dmax it was just prop washing all the time but it wasn't oscillating when I would push on the sticks because there was no Dynamic damping once I set it to 1.1 it helped the prop wash a little bit

[01:34:03]   but it wasn't getting overreactive when I was pushing the sticks around when I moved it all the way up to 2.0 now it's eating much more of the prop wash but not all of the prop wash

[01:34:16]   but it's oscillating when I move the sticks and so that is too much dmax too much dmax is going to boost it in the when you move the sticks not just when it's in prop wash the the dynamic

[01:34:32]   damping slider being at 1.1 it works really well it doesn't trigger it when you move the sticks around but it does trigger it when you get it into prop wash but this tune is still not done

[01:34:48]   because did you guys see when we had that initial big hit of prop wash that's because the dynamic damping has to boost the D gain we have a situation on this rig right now where those two

[01:35:01]   sliders are the the basically it doesn't have enough static degain and so the Dain is too low so you throw it around and you stab the throttle the Dain is too low to catch that first hit of prop

[01:35:17]   wash but then it's going to boost the Dain like crazy and then it evens out watch this we are now going to just push all of the Dain up all of the time and so and it's going to kill that initial hit

[01:35:34]   of prop wash we're also going to leave the dynamic damping on and so that's going to just give us a little bit of extra in case it really sits down into like a slow prop wash all right and

[01:35:47]   so pit tuning look at these values right so this tune is is super awkward because the master multiplier is jacked way up but then these damping and tracking sliders are cranked way down but what

[01:36:03]   I want you to look at are these values right P gains down in the 40s that's very low dains down in the 30s and 40s that's very very low this is a very loose very weak kind of tune here and so

[01:36:21]   first thing I'm going to do is get this master multiply out the the master multiplier increases the eye gain it increases everything and what I don't like about it is that it increases the

[01:36:32]   hell out of the eye gain so this tune previously had a whole it's not it doesn't have that much eye gain but it's just it increases the eye gain and usually we don't need extra eye gain

[01:36:46]   what we need extra of is damping and tracking which are dains for damping p&i gains for tracking and so the standard tune that I run on most of these things has an offset between the damping slider

[01:37:04]   and the tracking slider of of3 so if the damping slider is at 1.3 the tracking slider is at one and now look at where these values are these are the values these are pretty much the

[01:37:17]   same values that we had a second ago I think they're actually a little bit more aggressive I almost never run the pids down this low my first whack at a pit tune is all the way up here and now look

[01:37:29]   at these values look at how much more P gain and how much more D gain that we've got already and so now oh I need to pull this Dynamic damping way the hell down we're going to

[01:37:43]   put this Dynamic damping at 1.1 this probably this probably looks very familiar to you guys this is a very similar tune that I have on a lot of rigs that works really really really

[01:37:55]   well I can probably keep pushing this Dynamic this regular damping and tracking slider up but just for the sake of argument I'm going to leave it here and we're going to fly the other half of

[01:38:08]   this battery and then I'll bet you that the the prop wash is almost gone by now but we can go even further it's just it's a better bet to kind of creep these up rather than just go completely

[01:38:28]   bananas with them whoa Okay so we've got that was a weird little oscillation that I had there this battery is a little dead Let's let's get a fresh battery on here so I had an interesting little

[01:38:51]   oscillation there which a fresh battery will really shine some light on so let's do that I'm going to put a fresh 260 on here all right let's see what's going on so it's oscillated in a way that tells

[01:39:18]   me the pids might actually be too high already and the first thing to check is for vibrations when that happens and so we're going to flip this thing into Turtle

[01:39:34]   mode why does this battery say 2.4 2.14 it thinks it's a uh oh the max volt let's fix this the the max volt well now we'll be all right let's get this flight in then

[01:39:53]   we'll plug it but it thinks it's a 2S battery sorry I've been ignoring chat guys there's there's a bunch to get done here and I want to fly this thing a bunch what was I just going to do oh

[01:40:08]    I want to check for that check to see if the the tune is overactive wait wait no no no sorry sorry sorry Turtle mode Turtle mode Turtle mode flip it into Turtle mode arm it hold it in your

[01:40:18]   hand so that you can feel the vibrations motor one nice and clean motor two clean motor three clean motor four clean okay so the the motor the motor shafts are not bent up

[01:40:32]   the propellers are not wrecked let's see what's up here see there it is interesting but other than the oscillation the crop wash is gone huh let's so let me take a look at the

[01:40:59]   filters see if I might have missed something and then we will dive in I might have just pushed the tune a little bit too far let's take a look so hook this thing back up to

[01:41:18]   USB right connect and so let's go into pit tuning and then filters and just take a super quick look one gyro RPM filter pt2 135 one notch Q let's try something here let's remove

[01:41:39]   let's put less filtering into the dterm and see if that helps it or hurts it a lot of times with these tiny whoops you have a situation where there's too much

[01:41:54]   filtering and it's super easy to just do what I just did throw the battery back into it and fly it again and see if it helps or hurts let's

[01:42:11]   see it's not better it's not really worse though so now let's go the other direction welcome to tuning without blackbox my friends you go one way and then you go the other

[01:42:29]   way luckily with tiny whoops you do it in your basement and it doesn't take very long so we went one way didn't make much of a difference let's pull this D term down to 1.0 we'll

[01:42:47]   save and see if that helps it probably won't there is just a point where you can't push the pids any further on a given rig could be any number of things causing that let's

[01:43:08]   see oh it's way worse so there we go so great thank you wandering whoop that is a beautiful lesson in extra filtering not always being the answer when it was at

[01:43:29]   1.2 it was it was okay when I moved it up to 1.4 it was kind of the same when I moved it down to 1.0 it was bad significantly worse I'm going to go all the way up to 1.8 now I I bet you one

[01:43:46]   I've just tuned so many of these things that 1.2 is kind of always about right but this is again this is tuning without blackbox we're going to go all the way up to 1.8

[01:44:04]   here and let's see on one hand hopefully it gets worse because then we'll have narrowed it down but I have a feeling it's going to be about the same let's

[01:44:21]   see look at the wandering w teaching people how to tune hell oh my God it's way better wow well prop wash is still there but the oscillation is completely gone and we're going to talk about why

[01:44:46]   in a second if Brandon is not already schooling you guys on why that is in the chat wow oscillation is completely gone the battery is starting to get a little bit discharged so let's put a fresh

[01:45:02]   battery on just to make sure when you're dealing with oscillations so what what is that what is an oscillation it's when the the the quad overcorrects and then overcorrects

[01:45:17]   and then over corrects and overcorrects this can happen for a lot of different reasons if the if there's too much P gain oh boy I can't I can't dive into why it's a big

[01:45:32]   discussion um with filtering it happens because there's too much give me a second let me I I gotta try to figure out like the easiest way to describe this when it comes to

[01:45:58]   filtering sometimes it has to do with delay the more filtering you add the more delay if the electrical system is clean you don't necessarily need more filtering if the build is clean you

[01:46:15]   don't necessarily need more filtering if you add more filtering than it needs especially on a tiny little lightweight rig it will put enough delay into the PID game into the pids that there's this

[01:46:31]   overcorrection that happens and then it fixes it and it overcorrects and then it fixes it and it overcorrects because of the delay that can that situation can also be caused by the pit gains being too

[01:46:45]   high specifically the P gain being too high and there not being enough D gain to check it P gain is like the springs on a car D gain is like the dampers or the shocks

[01:46:58]   on a car if you've ever driven a car with blown out shocks it bounces down the highway and it bounces and bounces and bounces because there's no shock there to slow it down and so this

[01:47:12]   overcorrection this oscillation can be caused by the P gain being too high and the P gain will push too early and too hard and it'll overcorrect and then it's will overcorrect in the other

[01:47:24]   direction and it'll overcorrect in the other direction that there is a relationship between the pids and the filters though and so if there's too much filtering and there's too much

[01:47:36]   delay that factors into the pids and you can have that same situation and that's exactly what we just saw here when we move the dterm filtering down to 1.0 there was too much delay and it was it

[01:47:51]   was bouncing back the other direction and then that delay was causing it to go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth I I I am going to now push that dterm slider up on a lot of my

[01:48:05]   other rigs because I don't I've kind of settled at 1.2 or 1.4 because like that's pretty aggressive but here's the thing with tiny whoops everything happens at really high RPMs at really high RPMs you don't

[01:48:23]   need a lot of filtering the high RPMs the high frequencies are filtered hard no matter what and so I this is really really interesting I'm not going to push it Beyond 1.8 I am

[01:48:38]   going to put a fresh battery on though because that could have let's just see I think it's going to be fine but fresh battery More Voltage uh quicker resp response time

[01:48:54]   oscillations happen in part because of like response time that's kind of too good let's just check it nope it's fine we still have that prop wash but we don't have oscillations now and so we we

[01:49:14]   have some head room and it's also it's starting to feel good now that it's got more pit gain in it specifically more P and D gain it's starting to

[01:49:30]   feel more sort of locked in the air when when the I don't I don't know why it's doing that zero volts thing when when you've got the pit gains to a point where like they're close to their

[01:49:46]   limit the the the the quad is going to start to feel it's like a kitten with its nails in the carpet where it's like kind of gripping the air it's because

[01:50:02]   it's almost like a little bit nervous in the air the response time is really cranked up and it's making like smaller Corrections for you and it really gives that like locked in kind of

[01:50:12]   feeling and it's starting to feel already but we still have a little bit of prop wash and so the tune is still not there yet and so we're going to stay to that 1.3 to 1.0

[01:50:27]   ratio here and we're just going to go up to 1.7 and 1.4 and usually that will now take care of the rest of the prop wash but depending on this might also bring that oscillation back and so that's that's

[01:50:45]   where this relationship between the filters in the pids kind of gets interesting and also confuses lots and lots of people but keep sticking around and I talk about it pretty

[01:50:58]   frequently and the more times you hear somebody talk about it and show it the closer you'll get to figuring it out you can also head over to se fpv.one over the limit on the

[01:51:19]   pids I could try to push that dterm filter slider up some more I don't think I will though because the tune is pretty close to being dialed there was a strange noise that it started to make there let me

[01:51:42]   just do a quick check here no we look okay sometimes you just can't get absolutely all the proper wash out this is on a mobula 6 2024 frame I I I

[01:52:00]   don't I don't hate this Frame I also don't love this Frame it's just it's kind of a w wibbly wobbly frame I bet you if we put this into a cockroach 65 V3 frame I would be able to

[01:52:14]   crank the pids up a little bit more but the tune's not bad and it's 5 minutes before midnight and so I'm going to bring the tune back down moving this der term slider up Beyond 1.8 is is

[01:52:30]   just kind of insane and so this is this is pretty aggressive already so I'm going to leave this alone and I'm just going to back the tune off a little bit and we'll fly this thing we're back

[01:52:39]   it off to where it was that that is also a nice and clear signal that like you're T this is a good tune now we went a little bit too far right this is again this is tuning without black box you

[01:52:53]   keep pushing [@$#%] up well for you guys it's this way you keep pushing [@$#%] up until it oscillates like you just saw and then you back it off a little bit and that's your limit as it gets beat up

[01:53:03]   as the props get beat up as the motors get beat up we're going to have to pull these sliders down a little bit but right now today this tune is about as good as it's going to get that's how you

[01:53:12]   tune with that black box keep pushing [@$#%] in the more aggressive Direction until it freaks out and then back it off a little bit so we we were actually not able to push the tune that much

[01:53:24]   further than where whoever tuned it I'm assuming I'm assuming Rosser had it's is significantly more aggressive though right we're at well let's see I took the screenshot oh I didn't take a

[01:53:37]   screenshot of the actual values though but from what I remember the P gains were down in the 40s now we're up in the 50s and 60s and the D gains the dains actually I think they were pretty

[01:53:51]   similar feed forward is cranked up that's just really stick feel it's whatever so I wasn't able to get much extra pit Authority out of this but it's the the way that it handles

[01:54:07]   prop wash and the way that it feels in the air are significantly better now than than where it was In fairness I did change the filtering from where the previous tune

[01:54:19]   was so and that changes the delay so it's not a perfect one to one but the pids that it had to me in my experience with tiny whoops were were pretty awkward and they're

[01:54:35]   now a little bit more sort of dialed in and the the flight feel is is significantly different now which is always a good thing I have why are you taking so long to charge those

[01:54:48]   batteries let's run the rest of this 260 I've now turned the tune back down and so let's just run the rest of this battery out and see what's what I'm going to put it into some more prop wash to see

[01:55:03]   really where it's at oh my God okay so that was a why is it acting so weird all of a sudden it's I put the tune back but it's oscillating again what oh

[01:55:27]   boy now it sounds weird what is happening here what is it started make oh it had a leaf it had a leaf inside of it's started making a weird noise on that last battery and

[01:55:44]   then and now it's acting funny What's Happening Here wandering whoop let me I did not do like any kind of a nut and bolt check on this thing so let me oh there's screws backed

[01:55:59]   all the way out of it what the hell the the this one canopy screw was like I can't believe I'm shocked I didn't see that the one canopy screw was about to fall out that's not going

[01:56:11]   to help anything all right hold on got a nut bolt check stuff oh my God all these screws are all the screws are loose what in the world this thing was a mess all right

[01:56:36]   well this should be a lot better are the motor screws tight at least it doesn't look like any of them are backed out man that canopy was incredibly loose

[01:56:54]   motor screws seem like they're tight all right let's try that I have a feeling that's going to be way better that screw is literally about to fall out would you look at

[01:57:13]   that oh no we still got a little no that was just prop wash I thought was oscillating but it was just propwashed the oscillation is gone now hey ah okay Teddy look at this tiny

[01:57:38]   whoop look at this one you want to eat this one don't you do it don't you dare you can eat this one I didn't pay for it back up buddy back up back up back up little boy

[01:57:57]   oh you see that it ate that prop wash I could actually hear it eating the prop wash on that when you do these like turns you're really putting it into dirty air when I I do these really

[01:58:14]   aggressive prop wash turns it's prop wash is is really really really almost completely gone certain times when you turn these things like when when you're flying forward and

[01:58:27]   you turn it around perfectly and instead of the world perfectly going like this all of a sudden it perfectly goes that is like it is in its dirty air and you sometimes you can actually hear

[01:58:40]   it like you'll hear the motors like and what's cool is you won't see any prop wash or any Jello or anything in the goggles but you'll hear it and so you'll get this really perfect ly smooth

[01:58:52]   like everything's coming at you and then everything goes away perfectly smooth with no shaking but you'll hear it going and that's it eating the the prop wash and it and it just did that again that's

[01:59:04]   a sign that your tune is like dialed and that response time is is where it needs to be and it's and it's just eat and all of that it's pushing right it's in its dirty air and so the dirty air

[01:59:16]   wants it to do this but it's firing up one motor firing up the other firing up one motor and every once in a while you can literally hear that it's really really cool doesn't happen

[01:59:28]   often let's go to a couple 300 Mah batteries so there we go there's all the there's everything that I'm going to do to this uh wandering whoop it's flying really really nice now

[01:59:43]    let me get the uh throttle Expo dialed in so in order to dial in throttle Expo I have to pick a battery either 300 or 260 most people are going to fly this thing on

[01:59:56]   300s so I'm going to dial it in on a 300 MH battery the way that I do that is flying really low to the ground and also checking the so flying low to the ground you're going to get to feel how good or

[02:00:10]   bad your the throttle resolution is and then what is going on with the voltage there it is oh boy it doesn't like the 300 MH battery boy those 260s are light interesting now that the battery has

[02:00:37]   discharged a little bit's fine oh I need to change the I need to change the oh boy the low voltage cut off at it's tangle up in some wires all right I got to actually revisit the tune real

[02:00:56]   quick maybe I will try turning that turning that dterm slider up more back off buddy maybe 1.8 is is a bit much let's hook it back up to BetaFlight real quick I I

[02:01:15]   am I'm incredibly curious though I'm going to turn it all the way up to 2.0 for science I'm going to turn it all the way up just to kind of see when you have it

[02:01:32]   oscillating that's your chance to really figure out what's happening so let's crank it all the way up and it should get worse this is probably not enough dterm filtering if you get the filtering just

[02:01:50]   right you can run additional pit gains that is really the carrot on the string for me in terms of filtering I I don't like dealing with filtering but if you nail it you can really be

[02:02:07]   aggressive with the pids it's worse all right cool so that's really good to know that means that we're going in the wrong direction so instead of one point eight we're going to now go down to

[02:02:24]   1.6 and that'll probably be about right again that's how you tune without blackbox connect and pit tuning and filter settings so now let's go from 2.0 down to 1.8 down to 1.6 and that's

[02:02:46]   probably about as good as it's going to get without having black box but minimum frequency 100 Q factor 300 J RPM 1 low pass two that looks good save it

[02:03:02]   here take another quick look at the pids 1.7 one oh the the I didn't save it when I moved the pids back down well that's weird let's just move down a little bit cuz it wasn't that bad 1.6 1.3 cool

[02:03:23]   so this will probably this will probably be damn near perfect I'm going to take a little bit of feed forward out of it too I don't like ah whatever everybody else likes

[02:03:35]   feed forward I'll go in the middle I'll deal with it okay cool make sure I save that I need to dial in the throttle mid I also need to dial in this uh maximum cell voltage I need to change this to 4.4 so

[02:03:49]   it doesn't think a fully charged High volt battery is a 2S battery and then minimum cell what are these batteries bouncing back too that I'm running through

[02:04:04]   this me see real quick bouncing back to three I can I can drop this down a little bit 3.0 and 3.2 there we go all right 3 3.2 4.4 good to go all right subtle changes is that

[02:04:22]   should be it last thing I'll have to dial in is the uh throttle Expo midpoint but I I will do that in the OSD all right here we go man it got the voltage right away this time very

[02:04:41]   weird it's still got a little bit of still got a little bit of oscillation to it's doing it worse on the on the 300 mAh battery on the heavier

[02:05:01]   battery let me lock in the the throttle mid 33 30 31 30 31 all right let me just nail that down real quick 35 that's way too high we'll do 32 that'll probably be about

[02:05:28]   right oh now it's feeling good oh no there it [Laughter] is man also clean this lens see that little turn that I just did that's really putting it in the dirty air

[02:06:06]   that that that kind of thing you want to you want more momentum that's when you can kind of hear it there was a little bit crash recovery help me but not

[02:06:38]   enough oh I made a huge correction to get it through that gate cuz it was not lined up right oh so close oh so close Teddy Teddy Teddy let me out Teddy I want out let me

[02:07:01]   no oh [@$#%] ah it's unrecoverable oh damn it yeah I I need to tweak the tune just a little bit more a little bit more a little bit more a little bit more wow this is man I'm shocked

[02:07:20]   so with with these exact Motors on the Newbie drone cockroach V3 frame I can be much more aggressive with the with the tune this this mobul 6 2024 frame is not

[02:07:36]    not doing it for me very interesting I remember that I mean the main thing that I don't like about this Frame is that it the the ducts are too high and the the tips of the propellers go under

[02:07:58]   the duct when you when you hit stuff like so although it's almost high enough it's not too bad the the Cockroach frame is better though but the man the difference in this

[02:08:14]   frame's ability to isolate the the AO from The Vibes of the motors and the props and everything is very noticeable interesting stuff I wish I could make two changes on this thing I'd put it onto a cockroach

[02:08:32]   frame what was I just doing we just finishing this battery up no no no no I want to tweak the tune just a little bit I'll do it in the OSD so profile simplified tuning let's

[02:08:46]   just take this down a touch 1.5 and 1.2 that might be all we need it's just ever so slightly over the over the limit right now over the edge I wanted to clean the

[02:09:13]   lens but I forgot oh God oh man I put the uh the low battery warning is too low now it's too low I don't like it that I don't like it that far down that's a little bit better but

[02:09:36]   this battery was very discharged and so we got to run a fresh battery on it to really be able to tell so one more time into BetaFlight and then we

[02:09:52]   good so we want here and then power and battery so I actually it was correct 3.1 and 3.3 save it pit tuning bring this D term down to 1.5 just add a little bit of extra filtering

[02:10:16]   I'm tempted to screw around with this Q factor on the on the dynamic Notch filter so the dynamic Notch filter is what's targeting frame resonance and this is a floppy

[02:10:33]   frame the higher Q factor is going to remove filtering let's actually try this let's add a second Dynamic Notch I did not make a very significant change to this der term filter

[02:10:55]   slider let me do that and then I'm going to turn the tune back up four five six seven I mean we're here we might as well we might as well go all the way in with this and

[02:11:10]   and play around with all this stuff all right I've got one more 300 mAh battery we've got an extra Dynamic Notch if there's like a second sort of harmonic or just like a

[02:11:23]   second Spike of vibration that second Dynamic filter is going to Target it let's see nope so that so that second Teddy so that second Dynamic is adding extra delay and that has made the

[02:11:46]   situation worse and so in theory it's not an issue where there's a second Spike because otherwise it would be T I mean h there could be it's could be that but we're adding too much delay now

[02:12:04]   I did turn the tune back up as well but watch this I'm going to leave the tune where it's at I'm going to take this Dynamic Notch out save it

[02:12:15]   here I'm also going to make this Dynamic Notch a little bit more narrow so I just removed a bunch of delay and now let's see oh [@$#%] I think I forgot to click

[02:12:33]   save 400 Q factor all right let's see where this puts us the battery is still freshly charged so this is the this is the time to make the changes let's see what happens

[02:12:49]   here all right nope I think it's from the tune I think I've I've pushed the tune too far let's quickly fix that in the OSD simplified one two 3 4 back to where it was one two

[02:13:09]   3 4 back to where it was save and exit yep pids it too much well all right one last change I'm going to make that Dynamic Notch wider again that's where it was performing best all

[02:13:31]   right we're there and then I am actually going to back the tune off a little bit more because as you guys saw as soon as I backed those sliders down it helped a lot right that helped

[02:13:43]   significantly and so this is putting that Dynamic notch back exactly where it was and now we're going to come in here and we're going to actually take this down to 1.4 and

[02:13:56]   1.1 this this whoop frame this this mob 6 2024 frame is not it's not the one I I don't have any rigs on on Motors that are anywhere I have rigs on Motors that are way more beat up than

[02:14:13]   these with a much more aggressive tune than this and so this is about it our P gains are still up in the high 40s and 50s our D gains are still up into the 40s and 50s so this is still a more

[02:14:29]   aggressive tune move the dmax up a little bit more too that'll help it out anything else I can do here think that's about it all right that's it that's going to be where it where it lives

[02:14:54]   let's fly the rest of these batteries render says just throw that FR in the garbage put a cockroach frame on it there's actually two of these mobula 6 2020 well no there's an airf frame in

[02:15:04]   there we're only supposed to make one change so I'm going to leave it I'm going to follow the rules and just make that one change maybe I'll put a cockroach frame in the Box

[02:15:13]   though and see now now we're under control and the tune's good like there's one little hit of prop wash I'm going to clean this lens there's one little hit of prop wash but then it's fine after

[02:15:28]   that and so th this tune is is rocking for what it is but this tune is now at the limit of this build and so one of my favorite things about Kebab from FPV cycle is

[02:15:48]   that he refused to do any tuning through BetaFlight which you would think like well that's annoying but no he took all of his tuning mechanic he did all of his tuning mechanically and that is very cool

[02:16:07]   because we learn a lot when someone does that especially someone that has access to and budget for different frames different Motors all kinds of fun

[02:16:25]   stuff and so that to me is like like one of rug's main legacies to FPV is is normalizing mechanical tuning and showing the value of mechanical tuning so to get the tune on this rig

[02:16:45]   better we would have to mechanically tune it with a better frame or smoother Motors the motors are plenty smooth the props are plenty smooth too so we kind of know that that's not the

[02:17:00]   issue I have a lot of experience with these frames and so I know what in certain frames will do and what certain frames won't do oh fart fart get out of there fart

[02:17:18]   get out of there you fart bag oh I'm just getting sloppy now ah I'm trying to do a cool little combo that I just thought of here I'm trying to go in here out the side and

[02:17:38]   then big giant power loop I wanted to keep it a secret though H that's hard but cool ah oh it just bounced off oh oh oh that was that was actually crash prevention screwing me

[02:18:10]   over believe it or not oh and now I'm stuck next to the psvr2 nope it ain't coming out Teddy knock it out of there do something of value for a change you little rat [@$#%] thighs are on

[02:18:34]   fire I've been exercising quite a bit over the last couple of weeks and I am uh sore as a [@$#%] wow tedward spaghetti word look at what has gotten into you go ahead Chase

[02:18:57]   it w he's pissed tonight oh I'm like stuck on something what's it why is it bobbling oh my God Teddy oh he's smacking the gator all

[02:19:14]   around homie's pissed oh it's I don't know know what the deal is Teddy what are you doing to it Teddy you messed up the gate and everything what you what's up oh my God the

[02:19:31]    the the micro antenna had hooked itself on the side of the gate so it was sitting which is why it was weirdly wobbling that's super funny all right little bit more flying

[02:19:53]   oh God no more flying on this battery oh God no I don't want to stand up oh that poor battery just absolutely got its ass handed to it let me get it right on the charger that was

[02:20:06]   mean Teddy relax dude my God crybaby man oh [@$#%] these 260s are ready this thing flew great on the 260s ah I pulled that battery all the way down to 3.5 yikes it'll be fine

[02:20:26]   though what what has gotten into you insane whoa big ass oscillation what was that about not so tough now are you oh my God Teddy oh whoa so this is on a little 260 Mah lava

[02:21:05]   battery which shaves like a gram this rig is 18 grams oh man I'm getting some oscillation on these Batteries Now woo man it feels great a gram lighter the tune that was on here was I guess

[02:21:31]   very safe I don't guess but if Chris tuned it like this oh dog why you got to rip your toys all up I guess Chris tuned it to be super S I guess the thought process

[02:21:51]   during the tuning was like keep it Ultra Ultra Ultra safe I don't know it's a tiny whoop like whatever you can just go into the OSD bring the tune back down you'd be

[02:22:03]   good to go oh yikes oh come on now why do I have such I have a super hard time with this Gap this chair this double chair Gap here I think it I seriously think it's like a mental thing because like

[02:22:23]   whenever I come up to it I'm like don't [@$#%] it up this time you jackass it is kind of a small Gap though maybe I don't know oh don't crash into the plants let me just fly for a minute

[02:22:49]   come on now oh I almost hit that new move that I figured out the other night see if I can get it get off of there get off of there ah trying to do it too

[02:23:13]   big man it is that is hard to do no oh man I just full throttled this thing to the ground that was awful ah getting worse ah so that antenna is sitting up real high which is going to make the

[02:23:44]   the low elevation pass damn near impossible let's try it again though okay that was just me being a buffoon oh Teddy well then damn okay okay can

[02:24:11]    I noticed it the other night the I think this lava lamp is shot I've had this one for a long ass time I need to get a replacement lava top part I'm bummed I can't get the the

[02:24:27]   tune more aggressive on this but it's a it's a vast improvement from where it was okay here we go actually I'm going to just back it off another

[02:24:46]   touch back down to 1.3 1.0 what was that about oh oh God that looks so cool oh my God it looks so good dropping down into that I really like those newbie drone Gates as a as a hanging

[02:25:20]   Cube all I did was just put like velcro in the corners like see a little velcro strip there and then velcro between them and then it's the perfect it's

[02:25:38]   the perfect size for these for these ceiling tiles see it and then there's the vrx oh god oh I Ain GNA be able to get that out fart I kind of over rotated it [Laughter] what are you going to

[02:26:27]   do oh he made quite the noise on that one [Laughter] [@$#%] I can't fly cuz I'm laughing so hard oh [@$#%] ohoh [Laughter] boy oh God he's so pissed off why is he so

[02:27:14]   pissed off at the wandering whoop oh God he hates the wondering whoop so much more than minehe's knocking it out of the air now he's only ever knocked a tiny

[02:27:38]   whoop out of the air like one [Laughter] time I can't fly cuz I'm Happ so hard oh my stomach hurts so bad oh [@$#%] oh my God he's being completely insane tonight what has gotten into

[02:28:01]   him what do you have against the wandering whoop you little [@$#%] no I'm cornered come on bring that [@$#%] on bro come on bring It come and get some all right I think I got one more

[02:28:25]   battery oh man my stomach hurts so [Laughter] bad he hates it he [@$#%] hates it bro he hates the wondering move wny do you hate it oh what did the wandering [@$#%] do to you

[02:28:48]   buddy Jesus oh man I got two batteries left I'm just going to run one [Laughter] though oh my God that is just hysterical I wonder if it's the ex oh I bet you it's the LEDs this thing has the extra

[02:29:08]   LEDs on it that's the only that's the only [Laughter] difference oh [@$#%] all right's what was that crash crash recovery acted real weird there oh nope not winded up

[02:30:00]   easy oh what I was thinking the other day I wonder if I can make a path back so there's I want to do oh get over I want to do more back here oh God it's hard though oh that is

[02:30:26]   doable oh and it's cool looking oh uhoh uhoh oh no oh it's back it's fine everything's fine everything's fine I also want to do this more oh that is this tiny little Gap

[02:31:01]   though hold on down here wa now how do I get into that cleanly come up over here I got to get the elevation under control oh farts come on now in there and then where there's another

[02:31:22]   Gap over PS5 Gap that's not that's pretty tight there too this is impossible over here I think this is the biggest Gap this is the Mazda 2 piston connecting rod Gap and then

[02:31:38]    you just do that nice you do a throttle blip up so you do a single throttle blip to get the elevation and then let it pitch back and then fire it out over the TV

[02:31:51]   oh but the TV is high it's hard to clear the TV no no that's just stupid let's get this better get the elevation there we go that's the move oh and did you see I got a low battery

[02:32:16]   warning even though I'm Flying Without OSD because of the cool little setup and now if I want I can flip the OSD back on look at the battery 3.33 344 342 good time to stop minute and 40 what happen

[02:32:30]   these these these two 60 Mah batteries are of varying degrees of beaten to death all right last one this is actually the last one we'll get a little bit of Teddy a little bit of

[02:32:48]   freestyle nope this batter battery is dead that was the last battery just as planned thanks for hanging friends bird person say says tonight's tune session was super helpful don't always

[02:32:59]   rewatch the streams with this one for sure thanks you're certainly welcome man sorry I I know I missed a ton of chat comments tonight come on back on Friday ask any questions that you had

[02:33:11]   and and we'll dive in for sure but tonight was all about the wandering whoop and there was a lot of there was a lot of stuff to get done setting up back up from scratch take

[02:33:21]   some time and then tuning it from scratch took some time as well and it was a it was admittedly it was a bit of an excuse to try some some tiny whoop tuning things that I've been wanting

[02:33:34]   to kind of screw around with I don't want to send this out with a tune that's so Razor's Edge that the next person starts beating up the props and it's and it's unflyable I

[02:33:47]   don't know if this is going to go to somebody that knows how to tune or whatever and so I wanted to make sure that I got the filtering as dialed as I could the pids as dialed as I could

[02:33:58]   but at the same time I wanted this to fly as closely as possible to like one of my builds as as I could and basically what I'm saying there is that I wanted it to fly as

[02:34:10]   close as possible to like a dialed in tiny whoop when that first battery that we flew the prop was was pretty gnarly and it was very loose it did not feel anything like pretty much all of

[02:34:27]   my builds any of my builds I should say and so and I know we did an awful lot but it's a it's a really good platform to do that hopefully the next person that gets this

[02:34:40]    is blown away by how good it flies and they're like wow what's the the magical secret sauce Moon traveler 0702 32,000 KV Motors awesome these are the new HQ ultralight props 1.2x

[02:34:56]   0.9 by3 I would actually rather this have the old school more pitchy HQ ultralight props they would they would actually help a little bit with the tune potentially because they make a

[02:35:11]   little bit more thrust but they're still super lightweight I just don't have a set of those in pink at the moment I have some on the way I have a little bit more time with this so I I I might

[02:35:26]   I don't know we'll see I think that led still works right I didn't break the the last remaining LED did I I think I saw it flashing yep I didn't break the last remaining led the other three are broken

[02:35:38]   though but very cool huge thank you to Jesse Perkins for sending this over and thank you to custom Andor Nightwing for building this and this was a blast I hope you guys

[02:35:52]   got a lot out of it again I know that I missed your a ton of comments I do apologize for that come on back Friday at 7 o'clock Eastern time and it'll be a normal stream where I answer absolutely

[02:36:03]   everybody that tags me C fpv.one my Etsy store pin Vis are going to be up there soon book a one-on-one session with me through Fiverr or just just message me somewhere all

[02:36:29]   my contact info is on the website I love you bye here's some more 5in flying at a very cool local spot pretty famous local spot here in Atlanta actually with for some reason I

[02:36:45]   had the the camera set up vertical I don't understand why weird love you guys bye see you Friday he n n n a he