[00:02:23]   hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti I should have let that run I'm going headon against all the bikers again and it's just too cool looking C

[00:02:35]   fpv.one I love you guys you're the best that was some insta 360g go flat color profile footage that's why it's not saturated at all flight footage from the Sunny

[00:02:51]   King Criterium USA cycling race on Saturday and then on Sunday I actually filmed a wedding as well so this was a crazy weekend I missed you guys yesterday but I was out twerking yo

[00:03:08]    making some art so they say and it was great it was it was awesome the the cycling race was this is the third one that I've done in a row and

[00:03:24]    much of the same to be honest which is a good thing like no prises no no bad uh I don't know what it's same thing as the last couple of years it was it was a

[00:03:40]   blast everybody's mind was completely blown all the people in the TV truck were like holy hell how does this guy do this what is what what do you eat for breakfast who are you what the

[00:03:50]   hell it was awesome couple of guys were a couple of guys that were actually local in Al Alabama that are in the the video production world were like dudee man I I any anytime

[00:04:04]   anybody talks to me about drones I always bring you up like I I end up talking about you all the time it's amazing what you do super kind awesome people

[00:04:15]    and I I just had an absolute blast it's super super super fun all of that flight footage was from this one which is the AOS c 25 this is the guy that I fly the most at those events because it's a

[00:04:31]   little bit more efficient mainly because the entire outside of the the the propeller blade here is is unobstructed there's no carbon fiber struts whatsoever out here because of

[00:04:48]   that though this is super fragile so I figure fly this thing God forbid I crash it and break it qav goes up in the air which is a little bit less efficient I believe because it's got a support out

[00:05:01]   here this support is why it's so strong if I crash this and blow it up and I put this up in the air if I crash this which I have a couple of times it's not going to explode like the AOS so if I

[00:05:16]   flew this all the time I would never fly this because if I crash this it's this is incredibly strong like when you take this thing from the corners like this and try to bend it's like a

[00:05:28]   brick whereas if if I were to actually put some Force into this I would snap this duct right off I I broke the the bottom plate of this on the very first crash into the grass when I was

[00:05:42]   first building this and tuning it from about 5et up replaced it luckily I i' bought an extra top and bottom plate I replaced it and then on the second Crash from

[00:05:55]   like 8T up into the grass again it broke both the bottom and the top plate this was last year when I was first building these two things these are my sub 250 gr live streaming rigs

[00:06:10]   companies hired me come hired me to come out and fly live if they have a live stream going and they want Drone footage that they can pipe into the TV truck and then switch in and out of and they

[00:06:22]   work phenomenal I I I've I've given a lot of thought to what the best setup would be to do this and comply with the faas the main rule is that there can't be any externally spinning objects that

[00:06:35]   could cause lacerations and these are really the the best way that I've figured out how to do that I would love it if there was something even better than these because these are only 2 and 1 half in

[00:06:49]   propellers I would love to be able to have a 3-in rig to do this for the better efficiency and more power but there's just really no way to keep those under 250 gram the other way that

[00:07:03]   I've looked at quite a bit to do this is with the The Pusher style rigs the fox whoops the calog what I don't like about those is that they use a an AIO both of these guys use 20x 20 stacks and I'm

[00:07:19]   just way more comfortable with a proper 20 by2 stack when flying it around people at these cycling races I'm usually chasing the Le lers and those bicycles that they ride have

[00:07:34]   really skinny tires and they're really really really lightweight like they they they make those bikes so light that they're like about to break at any given time so if I go down when I'm

[00:07:46]   chasing the leader with one of these and one of the other Riders runs this over I'm not convinced that they won't go over the handlebars even if they don't go over the handlebars those guys are

[00:07:56]   like shoulder-to-shoulder so if somebody sees SE it go down and swerves a little bit he's going into somebody else and if that's the be that that so it's called the pelaton is the word that they use

[00:08:08]   for the big group of riders if somebody goes down in the front of the pelaton that was you were looking at a hundred men's cyclists at at this recent event so you're looking

[00:08:21]   at the potential of like 20 30 40 people going over the handlebars and for some of these guys this is their career and they get hurt when they crash so God forbid like I'm look I'm not

[00:08:32]   going to be the person that causes somebody to break an ankle or something and it ruins their their job for the next year or maybe indefinitely right like when when people

[00:08:42]   are at the top of their game if they get seriously injured that's sometimes it for them and I'm just I'm not going to be that guy so I do I I'm really really really sensitive to keeping

[00:08:55]   these things as safe as possible and flying as safe as possible right like I there there's a lot of stuff that I would I would love to do like I particularly like I would love to be

[00:09:04]   chasing these guys and throw it up over them and then drop it down in front of them but like look it's not about me it's about them and I'm not there to show off as a pilot

[00:09:18]   I'm there to give the director what the director wants and to show the competitors in a way that the static cameras kind of can't so that's that

[00:09:33]   uh the in very sad news today so that event is called The Sunny King Criterium and it's used to be put on by ACC America Criterium cup I don't know what happened to ACC but the the

[00:09:51]   organization that now put on that event is called USC United States cycling I believe it is there was also NCL the national cycling League that is the organization that

[00:10:06]   flew me down to Miami Beach last year Denver I think Salt Lake City Utah was under ACC but Miami Beach and Denver Miami Beach and Denver and then they also did an event here in

[00:10:20]   Atlanta but they did it right at the foot of the airport so I couldn't fly NCL announced today that they're canceling their entire season this year which really really sucks I was

[00:10:34]   really looking forward to doing Miami Beach and Denver again Maggie was going to come with me to Miami Beach we were going to make like a whole thing out of it I was super

[00:10:47]   super super super excited about that so I am really bummed out by that and I had to do my taxes today so today sucked but that blows and it's the the word around the sort of campfire and the

[00:11:02]   cycling Community is this is kind of it for NCL like they've said that they'll come back stronger and better in 2025 but like how do you do that how do you cancel how do you how do

[00:11:12]   you cancel your entire second season of your existence and then come back what I mean so it's I think the NCL is no more so that really sucks man because that I

[00:11:25]   I those events are incredibly fun and quite honestly I make good money from him so that sucks in a lot of different ways hold on hold on hold on hold on hold

[00:11:37]   on there we go there we go sorry friends microphone is too far away you couldn't hear me nobody said nothing I wouldn't known if you'd said anything because I haven't been reading the chat Timmons is

[00:11:48]   first Steven woodrift is next some guy FPV danilla the terrible not applicable fitties 135 David 4f tongue out FPV Northern Tier doubles FPV Bob Bruce Matt Norton Steven Woodruff safe Zone FPV FPV

[00:11:59]   toast J D stav hockey rounds Ethan W Cloud Hopper four little pigs B FPV Scotty Scott parkour guy Douglas otwell sleepy CBR Jeremy just Jeremy o parkour guy wake and bake Q silver FPV

[00:12:12]   Nathan Otis boow Weber metal dirt skin kilo zebra dead chicken danzel the terrible Layman board Brian Chambers quadam hatrick Curtis Hayes metal dirt skin I'm G to leave it there if you want

[00:12:23]   the gangest of gangli to read your name you got to come into the chat early if you want to talk to me type CiottiFPV in your message it'll light up an orange you can do that with each other if you

[00:12:31]   want to get stav's attention in your message type stav and for him his name will light up on orange so that's how you do it for me as well you can also do a super chat if you want to support

[00:12:41]   this completely crowdfunded thing that I've got going on it's tough to do FPV full time I would love your support join the patreon that's the way that you can get the most benefits and

[00:12:52]   support me with the evil overlords that run these companies taking the least percentage there's an Etsy store where you can buy some fun stuff there's a whole bunch of affiliate links

[00:13:03]   it's all over on Ciotti fpv.one of the Bridesmaids is the editor of the fella that hired me to fly pride and the Lululemon event the previous weekend and another foot

[00:13:42]   race and so in this case it's different because she's one of the brid mids she can explain to everybody involved what FPV is and it's a little noisy but it's going to it's

[00:13:53]   going to be okay and I'm not going to smash into anybody's face and Y Yad y I would not recommend that you try to book wedding gigs though if nothing else because weddings wedding gigs suck

[00:14:10]   top to bottom there it's too high pressure there's a mega chance of Bridezilla or wedding coordinator Zilla just don't have anything to do with weddings unless you

[00:14:24]   absolutely have to in general as a general life rule so I don't recommend that you try to squeeze FPV into weddings even though there is like for photography for example

[00:14:35]   weddings are the way that you make good money because people spend tons of money on their weddings but it's just not a scenario that's great for FPV there's too many people walking around

[00:14:45]    you can't like really announce to everyone like this is what FPV is don't look right at it act natural don't reach your fingers into it there's little kids running around so

[00:14:58]   it's super super sketchy if if you're going to fly a wedding please be like super overprepared top to bottom including how good you are as a pilot I know that sounds shitty for me

[00:15:10]   to say but like I'm just being honest here it's a scenario where if something goes wrong the stakes are really high and it's the scenario where a lot can go wrong really quickly

[00:15:21]   because of everything that I just mentioned so if you even remotely think if if you get the opportunity to fly a wedding and you and there's like a 0.01% chance that you're like man

[00:15:31]   am I good enough turn down the job again sorry if that sounds like me being a prick but you don't want you don't want the wedding heat believe me it's just not it's just not a good

[00:15:46]   thing say no you it's but all that being said weddings are gorgeous and you don't have to work all that hard like you just sort of point the camera at the the beautiful room that they've set up

[00:16:03]   to have dinner in at the beautiful pagota that they've set up to do the to do the ceremony in typically and it just looks awesome and this was one of those it was I did not have to work very hard

[00:16:22]    the the hard work that I had to do was trying to predict what little kids would just go running at the Drone and reaching their fingers towards the damn thing and stuff so but

[00:16:36]   that was really fun I I had a blast doing that this would be the third I think wedding that I did the first one that I did was the one for Bravo TV for the TV show family Karma and then

[00:16:50]    I did another one for just a random client late last year I guess it was and then this one so that was my Sunday got a little bit more sunburn but it actually doesn't

[00:17:05]   look too bad I got nailed on Saturday I think that's all I really have to say about these unless you guys have some questions eventually I'll let me get a little bit caught up on chat

[00:17:16]   here Stephen woodriff says I bought a pack of BT 2.0 leads only to find that they come with 22 AWG wire I also got an a30 connector with 20 AWG wire can't believe the difference two wire gauges

[00:17:28]   made I've not really paid much attention to wire gauges on Tiny whoops that's interesting I'm gonna pay a little bit more attention now stav says greetings

[00:17:44]    TSA parkour guys inside joke from Joshua's live stream parkour guy sayshe also says these streams always help me get through my forklifting job and I learned so much from them keep it

[00:17:55]   up my dude thank you man don't stab anything with that forklift or do stab something but get it on video because that's gnarly Layman board says what's up hatrick says message you on Discord

[00:18:07]   sent you the link for the god analog video same question how how how was it done it's upscaling it's the there's Mo FPV has been talking about it a good amount so hop over to

[00:18:19]   his channel you'll see it looks exactly like it there's there's some fancy program that does AI based upscaling and it makes analog video look exactly like what that was so I

[00:18:31]   don't know whoever that is posting the video is making a big deal out of some magical camera that's not a magical camera that's I'm almost sure that that is AI

[00:18:40]   upscaling if you watch M fpb's stuff with the AI upscaling in it you'll say it looks exactly like it Curtis hay says now we need seatt FV to do Sicilian Impressions Metson says it's ironic you

[00:18:51]   said you revamping video descriptions I'm now seeing a YouTube redesign where I can't see them at all all awesome maybe I won't waste my time what's up carbon cage how are you big

[00:19:04]   and little stepen wff says are there any onboard analog DVR systems there used to be but it was an entire 20x20 board so it was kind of heavy and then like you got to find space for it and

[00:19:19]   it's just like to hell with it so I don't think anybody makes them anymore but runcam used to make one and I want to say ehen used to make one as well the ehen one was not drilled

[00:19:32]   for any kind of mounting so you would just VHB it I I did that for a while on some micro at some point but Striker says how you doing I'm great CMYK says evening gangly gang and C FPV

[00:19:44]   Jeremy overreach is how I want to say it overes I think it is says I have the V3 Mobula 6 hd0 okay with serial ear would you recommend upgrading the motors from the 19,000 KV to the new 28,000 KV I'd

[00:20:03]   get the 2024 Edition but they're sold out everywhere Jeremy absolutely with with tiny whoops especially with 65 MIM tiny whoop 65mm motor to motor tiny whoops which is a 1.2 in propeller

[00:20:16]   KV is everything the most KV you can possibly get is is in my opinion what you want I'm a huge fan of 32,000 and 36,000 KV I believe that they are both sold out though over on Tiny

[00:20:31]   woop.com so look around and just basically get the highest KV 0 72s that you can find the the new 28,000 KV HappyModel 0 72s are fantastic but you might over on Tiny woop.com you might be able

[00:20:47]   to find an 0702 30,000 KV in stock if so get that it's made by HappyModel anyway check for their 32,000 if they're in stock get them check for their 36,000 if they're in stock get them I'm pretty

[00:20:59]   sure they're not in stock so just get as high as high of a KV as you possibly can if it's too high of a KV you can motor limit's down in BetaFlight if you buy too low of a KV you

[00:21:08]   can't motor motor Limit Up in BetaFlight so you always want to go higher rather than lower Cisco FPV says last time you were saying you couldn't remove the WalkSnail OSD if you go into the

[00:21:18]   menu and turn off the goggle icon it goes away go it's doesn't it doesn't get rid of all of it I don't think you go into the menu and turn off the goggle icon it goes away turn off

[00:21:36]   the oh okay I think I know what you mean we're going to be flying WalkSnail today so I will do that and then I will output from these and we will see if it does in fact go

[00:21:51]   away even if I can get it to I I I would love to get it to go away just in general but even if I can get it to go away I don't know if I would I don't know if I would trust

[00:22:07]   walks snail goggle icon show hide well that certainly looks like it gets rid of all the OSD the hell all right so we'll try that I have it turned off we will try that I would like to do

[00:22:30]   that for the for when I output video to the screens at the place that has the RC drifting so that's awesome good call dude thank you for that Ethan W says finish the big motor Tooth

[00:22:45]   Fairy 2 3 and half inch with WalkSnail it's so py even with a big 6s and 3-in props I posed some pictures of the micro join tab on Discord if you want to see friends 3-in props man you

[00:22:57]   don't need three and a half three and a half inch rigs like unless you're up at like 350 gr they're too floaty do 3 in 3 inch is better qil FPV media says can anyone join the bike race I

[00:23:10]   assume so but I mean those are like worldclass athletes that you're looking at like a lot of those guys like that's their career they're they're but anybody can can probably join I

[00:23:24]   I have no idea how it works I I'm I've gotten a little bit into interested in in the cycling stuff after being in their world a little bit doing a bunch of events two years ago last year but

[00:23:37]    I I I I I don't know that much I would search I would Google search American Criterium cup or US cycling and I'm sure it won't take too long to find it on the Google machine

[00:23:53]   strer says there are no Motors that are good for 3 and a half inch anymore except for the brother hobby 1504.7 which has ass durability and xn no 1804 which are probably going to be

[00:24:03]   discontinued soon I don't know about that there's also a t-motor 1604 and a t-motor 1804 there's the FPV cycle 16 mm motor which is really nachy but it's a big power motor

[00:24:21]    there's another 1504 I think there's even a 1505 lately I've been kind of thinking that there's an awful lot of Motors that that sort of work for 3.5 in to be totally honest

[00:24:34]    and I've been kind of wanting more Motors that are better suited for 3in although you can use most of those motors for 3in so it's I don't know strer says why I'm switching 3in to

[00:24:46]   3.5 t-motor 1404 4600 or such an insane motor is too that that t-motor 1404 is is one of my favorite micro Motors of all time those are actually what are on both of these rigs

[00:24:58]   and I mean so the the one thing I did forget to talk about with Saturday is that the wind was nuts like I swear to god dude they hold these events at places that are windy as hell

[00:25:13]   just to screw with me there must have been like 30 m an hour of wind at one point like I the the biker Cruise the the sorry the cyclists cruise at about 25 to 35 miles an hour and then they can

[00:25:29]   Sprint up to like 40 or 45 and they'll do like little mini Sprints to as a part of their kind of strategy and whatnot there is a lot of strategy in in cycle racing because

[00:25:43]   when they draft each other they use like 30% less energy and The Meta is conserving energy because these races are like 45 minutes or 60 Minutes long and so it's a really really really

[00:25:57]   big deal and there were points where the wind would kick up and I would be chasing them and it would just like I just like almost stop and I would and a couple times it happened when I

[00:26:10]   was live I would have to like kind of cover it up and just nose down and kind of drop altitude and surf into it but man the wind was nuts and then like Denver at like 8,000 ft above sea

[00:26:24]   level the air is really thin but man these t-motor 404s on frames that are like not aerodynamic right like it looks aerodynamic when you look at it like this but this is when it's hovering I'm

[00:26:37]   flying this thing up like this and look at all that surface area right so the the t-motor 1404 is man they just Jam they they're a really really really impressive motor all that being said I

[00:26:50]   was also really impressed in the two batteries that I got with it with the rexis build which is on luminer another another big boy 3 and 1 half in or 3-in motor luminer Cinema 1504 Motors I

[00:27:05]   was actually really really really impressed by those I'm looking forward to getting that rig rebuilt I think I'm going to get a speedy be stack I think I'm going to get the 20x20 Speedy be

[00:27:15]   stack for it because it's really cheap and everybody see everybody seems to be having really good luck with them not exploding and that's what I really care about so I was going to get the

[00:27:27]   t-motor 20x 20 stack but then I heard a couple people mention that they they're not having luck with those anymore and they're they're blowing up on them so I mean are the Speedy be 20 X20

[00:27:38]   Stacks still like are are they still amazing initially I was just like no there's no way there's no way that a stack that cheap is going to be decent stay away from them but then like more

[00:27:50]   and more and more people were likethis is absurd this stack just won't die and I was expecting at some point there' be a ton of people like they finally all are blowing up but that day has

[00:28:04]   not come so what's the deal what have you guys heard I I've yet to hear more than a couple of people say that they've blown them up I know a lot of people have the 30 by

[00:28:16]   30s I need to know about the 20 x 20s so anybody that has specific actual info on the 20 by2 is being durable please let me know in the chat tag me in the chat c type c

[00:28:26]   FPV scrolling back up in the chat to get caught up YouTube did the thing blah blah blah blah blah where the hell was I where was I there we go ster says off top off topic but have you ever been

[00:28:56]   to the Florida Keys Ciotti pretty nice place down here I think I have I've been to Florida a bunch my parents used to bring me down there to Disney World all the time Disneyland Disney World

[00:29:07]   whatever the Disney is down there I've been to Universal Studios down there and more recently my parents take five or six months when it's cold in New Jersey and they drive their

[00:29:20]   amazing RV down to Florida among other places but they spend most of their time in Florida and they'll invite me and Maggie most years to come down and hang out with them so I'm in Florida bit I don't

[00:29:33]   I don't know if I've ever the keys but Florida's very nice unfortunately there's a lot of dumb asses in it but in that live there but if you can avoid them it's a it's a great place to hang

[00:29:45]   out other than the scorching heat and alligators and mosquitoes kilo zebra says I know you don't have any special info but if you heard anything about the high k702 availability nothing

[00:29:55]   whatsoever we bleeding tiny sites have been out of stock for a while anything over 28,500 none whatsoever I I I'm not a big enough content creator to have anybody tell me

[00:30:07]   anything ahead of time even if they did I wouldn't be able to say anything so 661 says did you catch the Boke Bo qu what's boq B bouquet oh at the wedding no I didn't stay that long I

[00:30:25]   got in and out I I was in and out of there within two hours Stephen woodriff says when were 16 X6 Stacks used while ago but I you can probably still find them I want to make a tiny toothpick I

[00:30:40]   don't know if it's viable if all the tech is old they're Mo most of them are older the other problem is is none of them are none of them are were durable they they were all kind of a

[00:30:53]   mess and they were a nightmare to work on like you think 20 x 20 and 30 gauge wires is a pain in the ass 16 by 16 sucked I did two builds with 16x 16 Stacks one of them got run over by a car on the

[00:31:12]   maiden both of them sucked the the build was awful and so I I would not I would not go down that road AIO is plus I think a 16 by6 stack is going to way more than a 25x 25 AIO so just get an AO I

[00:31:33]   can't believe I those words just came out of my mouth but parkour guy says what would you recommend for Ultra durable Warehouse build over raw power or amazing flight characteristics such

[00:31:43]   as open prop cockro framan 65 bito no Firefly Nano no hell no you I mean durability with open propellers the with with a tiny whoop like they don't those two things don't go together you got to

[00:31:58]   have ducts cockroach frame for sure cockroach 65 V3 frame I I just recently did the indestructible 65mm build that's probably where I would go go like two or three streams back

[00:32:17]   and you can watch me build it and fly it and rip it around that that that's what I think I would do or just a Mobula 6 2024 to be honest it's so lightweight it's going to be incredibly durable

[00:32:29]   the durability comes from one of the ways you can get durability is to go really lightweight so that's the thing that the Cockroach that the Mobula 624 does really really well it's

[00:32:39]   like 17 point something grams you can pretty easily get it down to like 171 172 and they're they're really really durable you will eventually bend the motor shafts which is why I did the

[00:32:51]   the indestructible build which has a one and a half mil shaft so check that stream out we talked all about durability in there Cloud Hopper says what's with all the shortages with all

[00:33:02]   the whoop Parts these days it's not just whoop Parts it's FPV Parts in general right like these these manufacturers can make a lot more money with military contracts than with us

[00:33:12]   little Birds and there's also massive chip shortages in in the computer world that we deal with so it's not just tiny whoop parts I mean it we're we're coming out

[00:33:26]   of tiny whoop season right so the the winter every year is Tiny whoop season because nobody wants to go outside and so the the demand skyrockets in October November December January

[00:33:39]   February now that it's getting nice outside hopefully we'll see the parts come in stock a little bit and stay in stock a little bit better cbfv says nothing like drinking as soon as

[00:33:55]   you're going to talk are you using freestyle or ducted props for those builds when you say those builds what are those builds CB FPV tag me again ask me that whole

[00:34:11]   question but instead of saying those builds say something else a the ham says what's up hope you're well I am hope you are as well brother Le Leu root I think that's Leu root

[00:34:26]   FPV says what video what video system do you use for Live Events and how do you keep your range in check at the moment I'm still using old school DJI which I really really do like

[00:34:41]   most of these live streams go out in 720 this was the first big cycling live stream that actually went out in 1080 which is why they wanted me to try out 03 unfortunately the rig that I

[00:34:53]   built for 03 caught on fire the day before the event so ended up just flying the old school stuff what I like about the old school DJI system is how good it is in low light and that it

[00:35:06]   just works there's no there's not a lot of settings it looks good enough that the flying that we're doing with these is the star of the show the video quality is not the

[00:35:19]   star of the show when this thing is sitting 6 in off the shoulder of a cyclist going 35 40 miles an hour and there's a big trail of them in front of him nobody's looking at the image and

[00:35:32]   going well it's a little it's a little desaturated the the magentas are coming through a little too much I forgot to breathe there I like the the the feedback is Holy all day long all day

[00:35:57]   long so they all of the spectators get to see me fly too because they output the the live stream onto a massive Monitor and all day long people that have seen it on the monitor that then hear me come

[00:36:13]   into land come over and go dude holy that's you oh my God that's insane how do you do that is that VR how fast does it go how high does it go I'm going to kill myself

[00:36:29]   I should probably not scream that but not a single person complains about the quality that being said in the two batteries that I got before that rexis caught on fire I was really

[00:36:44]   impressed by the 03 system and I'm kind of excited to get it going for whatever the next event is if there is I I I I don't know with NC

[00:36:58]    shutting down canceling this season this might be the only event that I get to fly this year we'll see hopefully not but so that's what I use and then how do you keep your range in check

[00:37:13]   for me the best way is just to like fly and pay attention to the pixelation like DJI as it starts to get to the edge of its range will start to get the pixels will get bigger and blockier and then

[00:37:26]   you'll start to lose frames as well you can technically glance down at the megabits per second but it's pretty obvious it's pretty obvious on on digital in general when it's getting

[00:37:37]   towards the end of its range and at that point it's just a quick thought process of like am I behind a building is that what's doing it and do I have the quad like rotated in a way

[00:37:50]   where the antenna is so th this one the antenna is up loud and proud so pretty much at any time if I'm no down the antenna is the highest point if I've flattened out for some reason and I'm if

[00:38:04]   if you guys are where I'm flying from and if I've flattened out and I'm starting to back up like this and the head of the antenna is has a bunch of carbon fiber between my goggles and

[00:38:15]   the quad it's that's just like a quick thought process that I go through of like where's my antenna on this rig the antenna is not as high so that's a thought process that happens a

[00:38:27]   lot of like am I too flat because as you can see head of the antenna now it's got It's Gone behind the battery so if I'm perfectly faced towards myself and hovering and I

[00:38:37]   start to get pixelation I just put the nose down and that that puts the antenna back up with no garbage in between me and it so it's just after you fly enough after you fly

[00:38:53]   enough and you push range enough it's just kind of something that you don't even really think about you just sort of do it's just in the back of your head when when the video

[00:39:04]   starts to block out you you really quickly troubleshoot in your head am I too far am I behind a building is my antenna not clear or is my antenna being blocked by something on the quad and you

[00:39:15]   just kind of troubleshoot it real quick and usually it goes away I've been flying an awful long time and I've been dealing with it for ever and so for me it's super easy but those are

[00:39:29]   the those are the three main things that you want to work into your head and think about every single time that your video kind of goes to hell because that's sort of the quick

[00:39:38]   troubleshoot that you need to do to kind of figure it out the easy button when it happens is to put the nose down because if you have your first of all build your

[00:39:48]   quads right get your antenna at a 45 degree angle off the back up as high as you realistically can right that's the first big step putting your antenna inside here is the worst thing you can

[00:40:00]   possibly do you never want your you want to get your antenna as far away from carbon fiber as possible so that's the first big big big thing but then the real easy button when you're flying is

[00:40:09]   just to put the nose down if the nose is already down put it down more it's going to get if you've got the antenna where it should be it's going to get the antenna more and more clear of your

[00:40:18]   battery of your carbon fiber of everything so that's the the quickest thing you can do is just pitch forward but hopefully you're not pitching forward into a wall or or if

[00:40:28]   you're behind a building hopefully you're not pitching forward deeper behind that building right so there does need to be like a quick troubleshoot that your brain goes

[00:40:38]   through but just keep flying keep paying attention to it and eventually you won't even think about it I'm going to put these back on the Shelf where they belong because it's something

[00:40:49]   that as you fly more and more you'll you'll want to push the edge of range more and more and so it's something naturally as you become a more seasoned pilot it just becomes a thing

[00:41:05]    parkour guy says 1605 oh my God 3600 KV is amazing for 3.5 inch it is indeed unfortunately it's got the silly two bolt mounting which I really don't like so I don't usually mention those

[00:41:17]   Motors I've heard so many people complain about how fragile those Motors are unfortunately Striker says I would have gotten the Pacer 1804 if I could find 4S KV don't they have a 3500

[00:41:35]   KV Pacer 1804 2400 they've got 3,800 KV 3,800 KV is a for oh that's the 16004 I thought they had a here we go we go this to their website oh look at that to

[00:42:03]   Infinity okay I was going to start bitching Aon about their website 3400 KV 3400 KV is a 4S KV little bit low for 4S but if you pair it with a pitchy 3in or 3 and a half inch prop

[00:42:18]   it'll make plenty of power the xnova 1804 is only 3500 KV that 100 KV difference is small enough that it's and the the the the KV that they stamp on these motors and the KV that the

[00:42:30]   motors actually make are always different so two Motors that are 100 KV different they might as well be the same KV because the one might be high the other one might be low it's just

[00:42:43]    Metson says the aax 1504 that was the one I ordered some of those still waiting on them from China let us know how they are aax is a really interesting company really really interesting

[00:42:59]    Motor Company Q silver media says Avada 2 avat 2 work better for the bike race job pros and cons the avat 2 would get me thrown in federal prison at for the bike race jobs it is way way way way way

[00:43:16]   over 250 grams if there was no FAA or if the FAA got their head out of their ass about the 250 gram Rule and made it a real number like 600 or

[00:43:30]   800 the avat 2 would be probably the best possible solution mainly because it can look straight down but also because of the runtime the problem with it would be the controller

[00:43:46]   situation right You can't get a good controller for it the controller options are not terrible but they're not good either but the fact that the damn thing can look straight down that would be a

[00:44:00]   game changer they typically will bring me on for FPV and then they'll have another DJI pilot there with a mavic I don't know how the hell the mavic pilots justify taking a

[00:44:15]   7inch propped 600 700 800 gram rig up in the air over crowds of people but that ain't I'm playing by the rules you can do whatever the you want bro good luck in federal

[00:44:30]   prison I'm being they won't actually put him in federal federal prison but the findes that you guys know so the the IAT 2 would be absolute best case scenario in theory I

[00:44:45]   don't know the the the DJI stuff still kind of worries me a little bit but I'm incredibly and the the image quality of the avat 2 is absolutely Next Level it blows away any of the GoPros that are

[00:44:56]   currently available so that would be wild but it's would be completely ille it would be total it would be a huge risk you can and with with something like that

[00:45:09]   you can't even like lie right like I could technically take one of the cine whoops and put it up in the air all day long and God forbid something happens just keep like a tiny

[00:45:20]   whoop one ass battery in my pocket and if something happens just be like oh this is the battery I was fine with it's a 7 gram battery and that makes it 249.99 gram right like I could kind of

[00:45:34]   get away with that with one of these like with a NADA like there's nothing you could do you can't do that it is what it is it's a pre-built rig right there's you're you're in it

[00:45:46]   like if if somebody takes a picture of the Avada flying and then you get reported and they send that picture in of you flying the Avada over a crowd you're done or if the live stream

[00:45:58]   gets out there right like any number of things could happen so that that that would be I'm not willing to do it Striker says I think the 16 mm FPV cycle has a little too high of a KV at

[00:46:09]   4100 no such thing as too high of a KV you just motor limit's down and the T t-motor 1804 has to low of a KV at 3,400 it feels like 3400 is too low but it's actually not believe it or not

[00:46:21]   that's what the xn noas are the xn noas are 3500 KV and they rail 1604 is not bad indeed it isn't it's a great motor mainly what I was considering at 3,800 KV you can't go wrong with any

[00:46:35]   three of those Motors you'll be really happy with all three of those Motors the 16004 is probably your safest bet the t-motor 1804 will rail but you'll have to put it on a high pitch propeller all

[00:46:49]   the time which is not bad and then the FP cycle is is going to absolutely blast that motor is going to make all the power in the world the only worry is that it's so nachy that it might create

[00:47:02]   Jell-O or be hard to tune but it's going to make so much power it's also going to be a heavier motor but all three of those Motors are you will not be disappointed with any of those Motors

[00:47:16]   YouTube just did the thing scrolling back up there it is CMYK says my 20 x2s are holding up wildly trying to kill them lately LOL that's what I keep hearing I don't understand they're so cheap I'm

[00:47:35]   pretty sure I'm going to go with the speb 20 X20 strier says for 3 in what do you think is better 1404 or Pacer 1604 not better just different the 1404 is going to be lighter but it's going to

[00:47:45]   overheat more so if you really Hammer the throttle you can overheat the 144s Pacer is going to stay much cooler but it's going to be significantly heavier so no there's

[00:47:56]   no better they're just two different Motors Curtis Hayes says Speedy B I use a 20 x 20 with no issues I've had USB pop off on larger but I put some hot glue on it now parkour guy says that

[00:48:11]   stack is God it's taken about a year including being in a tree for a week being rained on Turnal mode a whole battery trying to get it out also it's been submerged and was fine I don't know

[00:48:21]   how they did it man FPV toast says I've got a 20 X2 Speedy be stack on my 3inch it hasn't blown up on me yet Cisco FPV says I've got a speed be 20 x 20 and two 30 x3s they have all been

[00:48:33]   great Bluetooth configuration is great for field workor that's another reason why I want to do the Speedy be stack of course you can just add external Bluetooth but who the hell's

[00:48:43]   going to do that at the at the event at the race on Saturday I had to bring my laptop because I looked up the wind and I saw that it was going to be absurdly windy and

[00:48:57]    I I just I I brought the laptop so that I could get into BetaFlight and move the pids around and I'm glad that I did but having Speedy be on board and I I do have the little Speedy

[00:49:10]   be USB plug-in thing but like the way that those rigs are built there's really not room for that thing to get in there so I'd have to take the damn things apart and I ain't doing that so

[00:49:22]   man having Speedy be on board would be really really handy you you wouldn't use it all the time but when you use it's really really nice Douglas otwell says pdb 20x20 has been good to me lost an

[00:49:34]   OSD on one or two that's interesting super I'm assuming that's one of the legs popping up on the on the OSD because the OSD chips are pretty robust super 62 says I have a 20x 20 Speedy be

[00:49:52]   in my 3 and 1 12 inch whoop running xn no 1804 is 35 3400 KV for us flies is mad have dozens of packs no issues Striker says I feel like Aaron should play a super villain in a movie he seems

[00:50:05]   perfect for it om fpb is in the house what's up dude he says did you have an assistant on Saturday I did not I I thought that they would have a PA for me because we've talked about it

[00:50:16]   in the past but they did not and it was totally fine it's with an assistant it's nice cuz I can stay up the air a little bit more but it's not much more and it and it is nice to take a a

[00:50:32]   little bit of a breather so it was the last year Patrick came with me and it was so much fun oh my God it was just it's was it was like the peanut gallery with

[00:50:47]   the two of us and then he's an actual FPV pilot so he knows the things that he can do that'll help me and then like he can it's was just like absolute best

[00:50:59]   case scenario ever and it was so much fun and most of these events I I I will have a PA there but this was it was totally fine like when when I realized they didn't have one for me I

[00:51:14]   was like all right I'll be fine and then it was it was totally cool I probably missed I don't know four or five opportunities to chase them one extra time but in the TV truck you know

[00:51:29]   they've got a dozen cameras to pick from so if I'm not in the up in the air it's not the end of the world they just take to take another camera and it's like I said it's

[00:51:40]   really nice to take a little break it is I don't do it but like you wouldn't believe it is it is exhausting on a whole other level flying back to back to back to back to back to back to back to

[00:51:56]   back batteries for like 3 hours like two or three hours especially in a scenario where you're flying around like top tier kind of athletes right like this isn't just like around in a

[00:52:11]   parking lot like la la la la flying 50 batteries in a row this is like high stress like don't crash in front of this pelaton and have 20 Riders go over the

[00:52:23]   handlebars and just to do that over and over and over again with wind with the crowd right on the other side of the railing right it is it is Mega and it's funny like I always real like

[00:52:38]   like on the the the first like hour of the drive home the the adrenaline just completely dumps out of me and it's just like oh I'm just in the car like and I I always stop and get some disgusting

[00:52:54]   fast food and that and that boosts me back up but man it's is every every after every single one of these events I'm like staggered at how mentally drained I am from just concentrating

[00:53:07]   so hard for for so long so this is actually kind of nice I would still obviously have preferred to have Patrick there but it was different it was it was different to to

[00:53:23]   not have anybody it was also kind of a lower key event this this this year there was another bigger event in Cali I don't know if it's was a bigger event but there was another cycling race

[00:53:34]   in California going on at the same time so certain people were not at this event CU they were in the California event and it was just like sort of more chill a lot of times these events are

[00:53:44]   very serious which is great but this was this was a little bit more laidback which was neat parkour guy says could my warehouse's robot forklift and computer system be

[00:54:02]   causing my Els Mobula 6 to fail safe it's very random and I never fail safe elsewhere my lq flashes the whole time 10 to 40 feet away that would be my guess it's would make a lot of

[00:54:14]   sense that they're on 2.4 gig because that's like what routers and a lot of that kind of stuff uses so they're probably on 2.4 just blasting I don't know what to tell you to

[00:54:32]   maybe try going down to a lower bit rate going down to like 100 or maybe even 50 of course up your power you probably have already done that I don't know if there's anything else

[00:54:48]   you can do interesting Salam says tiny whoop recommendations I started FPV with DJ Avada gear which I still have Salam easiest thing you can do is to get when it comes into stock the happy

[00:55:03]   model Mobula 6 2024 it's just so good right out of the box and then just fly it just fly the hell out of it and then hang around here and we talk about upgrades but to be honest that thing really

[00:55:18]   doesn't need upgrades it is just unbelievable right out of the box you will have something that is like 95% as good as what I fly and fly the hell out of it

[00:55:34]    parkour guy says check out Speedy B's USB plug-in Bluetooth module that's what I have it doesn't install inside the Drone uses any drone USB port like a PC no extra weight plus you can charge your

[00:55:45]   phone off a Leo yep that's what I've got but the way that these frames are built it's just won't fit in there metalon says standing offer I will fly out in Tech for you at one of those

[00:55:57]   races I got airline miles I can burn nice dude nice man I have a hard time remembering I've had a bunch of people offer me that I have a really tough time remembering who offered when they

[00:56:09]   offered so if you hear me talking about a cycling race remind me that's the only way I don't have another one on the books right now this might be my only event of 2024 I hope to

[00:56:25]   hell that it's not because I love flying these events and I was really hoping to go the other direction with this and get more of this kind of work but at the moment

[00:56:35]    this is the only one of the year which makes me sad Jeremy says do you use different rates when flying a whoop versus flying other quads I do not and I don't recommend that anyone do your

[00:56:48]   rates are the one thing that affects your muscle memory the absolute most and the one thing that you can do to get better as a pilot quicker and more consistently so that you don't

[00:57:02]   plateau is to have every single thing that you fly feel as similar as possible best case scenario is to fly the exact same thing forever you build two or three or four completely identical Rigs

[00:57:19]   and that's all you fly if you want to get good that is the best thing that you can possibly do to get good that's kind of boring right there's there's so much cool Variety in FPV

[00:57:34]   so at the very least for God's sakes leave your rates pick a rate pick a set of rates that works on everything and run that rate set on absolutely everything one of the most difficult

[00:57:47]   things to do is to adapt you change a rig and you spend like two or three batteries adapting and getting used to that rig and then you can start to fly good but then you switch to another rig

[00:57:59]   and you have to adapt again and that's going to happen when you go from a tiny when you go from a 65 to a 75 you're going to have to adjust then you go up to a 5 in rig you're going have to

[00:58:07]   adjust Big Time Richard me thanks for the subscription buddy so do not run different rates on any of your rigs Leo root says do you use the DJI smart remote to relay the video into

[00:58:22]   the TV Tru yes sorry I forgot to mention that DJI Smart Remote is what takes so you plug USB into your goggles that goes down to the smart controller and then that outputs to HDMI to the TV

[00:58:35]   truck you can also do this with a pi if you can find one in stock and then do it yourself or you can get something called the cosmo streamer which is a pre-built P so couple different

[00:58:48]   ways to do it back when I built these things there was only the one way to do it which was the smart controller which Joshua Bardwell very kindly sold me for a lot less than it than he

[00:59:00]   could have probably gotten for it on eBay and just we're caught up on chat couple of shout outs from some beautiful people that have joined the patreon Caleb thank you for joining the

[00:59:12]   patreon you are now a member of the gangli gang of all the gangs in the Gangland who else is watching Fallout on Amazon Prime I know someone is I

[00:59:29]   am I got two more episodes left but I think I'm gonna stop watching it and start watching it with aelia but I don't know zelia's 13 might be a little young for it's doesn't it's mainly

[00:59:44]   just violence though it's there's not like overtly sexual stuff in it so I I think it's okay because violence is all over Tik Tok so what the hell

[00:59:56]   you think 13's too young for it for for Fallout I don't know we'll see I haven't I I I watched I wasn't paying I even if even if I don't watch it with aelia I don't think I'm gonna

[01:00:12]   watch it with Maggie I don't think she'll like it I'm going to rewatch it because I started watching it this last week when I was working really hard on that rexis build so I wasn't really

[01:00:23]   paying attention like I I got the I got the G of it but I I want to like actually sit down and enjoy it so I'm going to rewatch it but I I think I I might I think I might

[01:00:36]   watched it those we'll see Jeremy over Jeremy o says in that case do you use Expo on your throttle absolutely at this point I use Expo on everything on these rigs to chase I only use a

[01:00:52]   little bit of Expo because I use a huge range of cruising throttle when when they sit up on their seats and they're really conserving energy when when the whole pelaton sits up on their seats and

[01:01:05]   nobody's attacking these guys will only be going like 25 30 miles hour it doesn't happen often but it does happen and when when they do that I have to really back off like I have to really

[01:01:16]   pitch back and I end up having to drop elevation too because otherwise I'll just looking up at the sky and then when these guys attack and they Sprint I am like in it dude dude I'm like 70%

[01:01:27]   throttle to catch up and then keep up with these guys they're really really really fast so in that case where you're using a big there's a massive variability in your cruising throttle

[01:01:41]   you actually don't really want Expo I so I just run a little bit of it because still like 80% of the time I'm at about 40% throttle so it still does help and then when I'm going really fast

[01:01:54]   it does technically hurt me a little bit but I'm only running like 0.1 or. 2 I think of Expo and that's just not much it's not making much of an S curve it's still pretty linear so it helps

[01:02:06]   me out when it helps me out the majority of the time when they're cruising normal 25 35ish and that's when I can really be super technical like I I I really love to just drop down right on

[01:02:19]   top of their helmets and just be right there it's just such a cool View and so when I do that that's when it's in that like nice butter Zone where it's nice and smooth and I can move the

[01:02:28]   throttle up and down a little bit without seeing visually seeing the quad moving and then every once in a while when they Hammer I'm not on top of them like when they're pushing and

[01:02:39]   they're attacking I'm up I'm like 10 feet up I want to give them space and I'm like so deep into the throttle that I'm like these motors are going to start getting hot I like the battery's

[01:02:49]   going to start sagging God knows right like when you're really pouring the throttle on like that's the time when something's going to blow up so you want to give yourself some some leeway in

[01:02:58]   that situation so it works really really well my dad says give away a frame we can do that let me get through these let me get through these patreon shout outs though Trey

[01:03:12]   Dove also joining the patreon welcome to the gangly gang my friend these are going back from like a week ago I apologize I haven't done these sooner friends Joey Murray welcome to the

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[01:04:01]   at here got a little when you join the patreon you can type in whatever name you want sha nres decided to type in shitstorm for his name so welcome shitstorm you're you're now a member of

[01:04:25]   the Gang L gang thank you for your support fly tribe magazine they had joined previously shout out to them there I also put them on the on the opening screen there welld deserved

[01:04:38]   they've been a mega supporter and I and I super appreciate it Damon Fredericks welcome to the gangly gang thank you for support my friend mab welcome thank you

[01:04:51]   dude and it looks like I've got a looks like a couple more pin Vis have sold I got to get those shipped out I'm behind guys I I I was just completely out of action all weekend and then like

[01:05:04]   Wednesday Thursday Friday I was hammered on the rexis build so I'm way behind if you haven't heard from me I'll get back to you this week for sure Mega FPV welcome to the gangly gang thank you for

[01:05:13]   the support and what else we got going here am I caught up I might be caught up come on what's Happening Here can you please there we go am I caught up I think I'm caught up wow look at all this

[01:05:40]   garbage email I might not be caught up there's too much garbage email for me to sort through God damn where did all this trash email come from let's do a quick frame giveaway if

[01:05:50]   you want to win a newbie drone cockroach 65 V3 frame coupon code which is it's a $5 discount that's what the frame cost you go on newbie drones website you add this cockroach 65 V3 frame to your cart in

[01:06:07]   whichever flavor you want and then you put the coupon code in it removes that amount of money if you add enough stuff to your cart you can get free shipping you can get get a completely

[01:06:16]   free frame or you can just pay for shipping and get a frame for the cost of shipping that's how it works if you type frame into the chat everybody else stop typing into the chat for a minute

[01:06:29]   one minute and if you want to win a frame type the word frame into the chat and then I'll pull a list and we'll do a quick we'll do one we'll do one quick well we'll do two we'll do two

[01:06:42]   quick frame giveaways everybody else hold your comments for one minute get this ready here all right cool Morton upot says fallout depends on your thoughts of a 13-year-old

[01:06:57]   knowing that there is nothing visible but it's referenced I know they they did they did mention it a couple times so far and I was like but I mean Tick Tock right like

[01:07:14]   it's awful it's just awful and every single kid is just on there 24 hours a day at this point so I don't know know I don't know Jeremy says I'm a bit confused is throttle considered separate from

[01:07:33]   rates does that change per quad to me throttle is considered different from rates for me rates are pitch roll ya'all so that's it can I get a channel says just came to boost analytics thank

[01:07:49]   you dude Jeremy says and everyone in chat thanks for answering all my questions I really appreciate it you got it my man parkour guys says my fin Bice just came love your envelope

[01:07:57]   packaging thank you dude enjoy it all right cool everybody's typing frame and I'm going to come in here to participants and I'm going to Adam Wesson got in just the last second there

[01:08:12]   I'm going to copy that and then I'm going to paste it in here and I'm going to submit's that's it you had your chance you had your chance friends it's now or never here we go is that

[01:08:28]   working hold on it was hell oh hell oh hell there it is ready here we go oh wait the microphone's over here now Scotty Scott's on the bottom in the middle ant bbtc is on the left there

[01:08:48]   he's hanging in parkour guy hard left he's hanging in Adam Weston just got blown away Cloud hoppers on the top right he's still there Scotty Scott still there nope oh oh wow look at that

[01:08:56]   cloudhopper wins congratulations brother Cloud Hopper you need to message me I only know you as Cloud Hopper right now or Cloud hoper as I mistyped it you need to message me somewhere all

[01:09:11]   my contact info is over on c fpv.one a cockroach 65 coupon code my name is blahy blah my email address is blahy bling and then I'll reply back with the with the coupon code for you

[01:09:29]   we're going to hit play again and everything is all out of order Adam Wesson's on the bottom left he's still here Slow Cal's on the bottom right he's still there right next to stav Jay Hines

[01:09:42]   as well parkour guy off on the left again it's going to be it's parkour guy maybe why is it not there it goes parkour guy congratulations same deal message me tell meit's parkour guy p

[01:09:53]   a r k o u r guy congratulations friends we'll do another one or two on what on Wednesday can you what there we go thanks for the reminder father speaking of reminders today is Monday

[01:10:12]   April 15th two days before my 43rd birthday it'll be fine met says this reminds me check the cfpv reacts channel on Discord for what I just bought where the hell is

[01:10:37]   Discord do I not there it is where's the reacts thing where did I even put it there I put it ah the screaming goat is at Barnes and Noble nice

[01:10:56]   that's it that's the one man Evan and Kon Evan and Caitlyn I used to watch them a long time ago doing the Furby robot dog is just ridiculous oh I think I started

[01:11:11]   watching that just because Caitlyn's cute but then I was like man these guys make some good content all right what else is happening over here no no let's get out of there

[01:11:21]    okay we got to do the thing that's in the thing Stephen Woodruff says happy government payday all right here we go do we have enough time oh we got tons of time beautiful so I've

[01:11:36]   got three different sets of 102s RC and power 22,000 I flate Zing 22,000 and flywoo 23,500 all on 1610 byblade propellers all on meteor 60 meteor 75

[01:12:03]   airframes Let's test them I I have not backto backed them but I have flown them all and so far I can't really tell a difference I I I don't think there's a significant enough difference between

[01:12:20]   them to say like definitely get this one but that's what I'm kind of hoping to get out of this test here today so I've got four batteries that I'm pulling off the charger right now as I smack the

[01:12:34]   microphone the fly Woos are technically the higher KV right 23,500 KV but the KV numbers that these manufacturers put on the motors do not perfectly mirror the the actual KV that

[01:12:50]   you get from from those Motors I'm going to show that right now with well no we're not going to really look at that so they they measure KV without a propeller on it's an unloaded test

[01:13:05]   I'm not going to pull I'll pull one propeller off each one of these so we're going to test motor number four on either one of these rigs and I'm going to show

[01:13:16]   you that the the KV of the motors do not match up with the KV stamped on the motors do not match up with the actual KV that the motors turn it's a really good indication it's the best

[01:13:33]   indication that we've got but if you've looked at any amount of actual motor testing by Ryan harell or Chris Rosser you'll have seen that the they test the rated KV versus actual KV and

[01:13:47]   it's always off so it doesn't really it doesn't really matter as much as running the actual motor so let's do that real quick let let's put the RC and power rig into BetaFlight we're

[01:14:04]   going to spin it up in the motors tab the four batteries fresh off the charger are over here this battery has been sitting charged for a couple of days so this is the one that we're going

[01:14:16]   to use in BetaFlight here because I don't want to throw off the testing with those other ones so plugging it in we're going to launch BetaFlight that's going to take a

[01:14:26]   minute Morton upshot says I was going to suggest that you have Maggie plug plug you in without telling you which to blind test it is 11:15 she has been asleep for hours by now probably but

[01:14:37]   that's okay look they're they're they're so similar to one another like if it's if it's obvious great if not that's fine too right this isn't like this isn't like a hyp

[01:14:55]   this testing doesn't matter that's what I'm trying to say without saying it but if there's one of them that really jumps out awesome let's let's all buy that one but I don't necessarily think there

[01:15:05]   will be I think they're all pretty similar what I have noticed in flying them is that the zings sound like you'll hear it they just like they just make noise they don't

[01:15:15]   sound good so let's not buy the zings probably but we'll still back to back them all right here we go so we're going to take take a look at the ESC RPM ratings here we go plug it in the

[01:15:31]   battery and I'm going to spin up the UN the non-proper motor first ready it's motor 4 and so just look at the RPM here ready 78,000 yep 78,000 is the highest number that I saw now I'm going to spin up one

[01:15:54]   of the loaded Motors 52,000 52,000 really really consistent wow really consistent that's super impressive do me a favor somebody type those numbers into the chat let's do it again on another rig

[01:16:12]   now we're going to test the zings somebody type those two numbers in the chat for me please because I've already forgotten them if you have to rewind please rewind this is not a

[01:16:26]   perfectly this is not a perfect test this is a different AIO that I'm plugging this into but this is as good as we can do trying to do this quick I should say all right ready Let's test this guy

[01:16:45]   out here's the unloaded motor 84,000 and here are the loaded Motors 52,000 52,000 okay remember when I said that this is worthless so those are the iflight sing Motors somebody type those into

[01:17:08]   the chat please and now we're going to fly these two Rigs and then I'm going to pull one of them apart they're going to fly exactly the same I'm going to pull the center

[01:17:18]   section off of one of them probably The iflight Zing one and I'm going to put it into the frame that's got the flywoo Motors and then we'll do that same test on this and then we'll fly this

[01:17:31]   but just from what we just did I can tell you that it doesn't make any difference buy the 102s that are in stock from the place that you're ordering from if you're ordering from newbie drone it's

[01:17:44]   going to be the I flights I flight zings if you're ordering from pyro drone or get FPV or race day quads it's going to be the RC and Powers but if if if in a loaded test it's not making at

[01:17:58]   least a little bit more it's not going to make a difference the RC and power motors probably are a little bit lighter though that's going to make a little bit of a difference if

[01:18:08]   you're doing an order at newbie drone and you need a set of 102s just get the I FL zings I think but let's put them up in the air fly a battery on each and see it's not that test is not the

[01:18:22]   only thing that matters it's just the thing that matters the most so let's do it anyway and then we can say that we've done it what I mean what am I putting these on for I

[01:18:39]   need a transmitter I need to figure out which module I need stuff's all put away and packed up nicely in my case from weekend Crossfire modulesI am done with Crossfire bro the

[01:18:55]   these these dual band elrs modules cannot come out soon enough I had so many micro fail safes on CrossFire this weekend I don't know what the hell was going on it always came back but

[01:19:13]   Jesus I've not had I not had this many micro fail safes in the entire time that I've flown FPV it's was weird man really really really weird I'm just done with it man I've been done with TBS for a

[01:19:28]   long time I don't like the company I don't like their to cools for school attitude I don't like trappy he treat he treated Joshua like total a long time ago and never really

[01:19:38]   apologized for it done done with TBS that too cool for school like come on now relax you're not that cool bro we're flying toy helicopters for Christ sakes leave it here we go friends

[01:20:03]   RC and power up first right L board says when you're in a high noise environment you get those I was not it was not a high noise environment in in either case the

[01:20:21]   wedding was was in the middle of the field it was just in the middle of the woods I had like line of sight at like 400t away it was so weird so so so weird TBS gear the main thing that I've

[01:20:37]   noticed with their gear over the last seven years is that every time you put Power to TBS gear it like loses a bit of its performance and my TBS gear is getting older and so it's had power put to it a

[01:20:53]   bunch of times and it's so true for their vtx's like you power up their vtx's 100 times and they're like one mowatt it's ridiculous but I don't know I guess that applies to all

[01:21:03]   their gear it's not electronic should not work that way but I don't know maybe they're just pushing them to their absolute limit quadam says maybe the sunflare from the weekend could be

[01:21:15]   aliens that's it aliens that's the one turn this vrx off turn this one on look at that man no OSD what the hell whoever that was that told me about that earlier God thank you swamp gas we

[01:21:35]   balloon that's it oh oh oh what it is so so you can get a clean output that's what it is sorry I I knew about this you can get a clean output but then you're

[01:21:51]   Flying Blind that's what it is on on DJI you can get a you can get your OSD in the goggles but then have the clean output as well I don't I don't I don't really want to fly blind like that

[01:22:06]   that's a little sketchy I mean with tiny whoops it doesn't really matter but flying professionally without knowing the battery voltage that's not a good idea I I would have to set up like

[01:22:17]   a really accurate timer on the on the transmitter no what I would do is get the figure out how to get the transmitter to read out the voltage and whatnot but that's annoying who the hell

[01:22:32]   wants to do that is this the wrong module I think it is or the thing's been on the ground so long it's in Wi-Fi mode it's in Wi-Fi mode farts all right here we

[01:22:51]   go okay let's try this again come on little fella bind I think I did have the right module on here but the thing was in Wi-Fi mode I know you're overheating

[01:23:03]   just just hang on a second just hang on come on bind you bastard bind bind bind come on please there's some air flow all right okay RC and Power 102 is first these are

[01:23:29]   the ones that everybody says are God they're not God this performance sucks like why is this battery at 3.7 already and this performance doesn't suck it's just

[01:23:42]   not look the look look at that micro look at all these little fail safes what elrs has been doing this to me lately too see that that was a huge fail safe there it all what's weird is it only

[01:24:01]   does it on y'all it's so weird you see it snapping there there it is look at it oh boy I'm doing smooth yaw movements if you see it snap see and now it's fine it's so weird

[01:24:20]   like the first when I as soon as I start I wonder if elrs is like hunting around for doesn't elrs hunt around for for a good Channel I wonder if if it is now found a good Channel what I

[01:24:37]   mean w this battery just all right this doesn't count this battery sucks what the hell all right I got to put more batteries on this charger I'm considering throwing this

[01:24:50]   battery away instead I'm just going to write a red x on it that's my reminder to pay more attention to that battery I'll fly it a couple more times and if it continues to be a

[01:25:06]   sandwich like it is right now it's getting thrown away okay so we're going to grab another one of these batteries and we're just going to reset real

[01:25:19]   quick all right let's try this for real this time I need to get more of these 450 BT 2.0 batteries cmk says the flight feed is staring you guys were saying that last time there's nothing I can do about

[01:25:37]   that just stop Flying WalkSnail on the streams I guess start finding more analog there we go that's a little bit better but I mean like everybody made these RC and oh God stopthe

[01:25:53]   what is the deal with this the little micro fail safe thing is really annoying these aren't bad oh you scumbag really oh come on oh no I mean these motors aren't

[01:26:19]   bad but they're not good they're they're not as good from they're not as good as the beta fpd 112s why is there no video at all now oh my God what is happening

[01:26:37]   why I just unplugged and replugged the Elgato hd60s let me unplug and replug the goggles what the okay encoding overloaded consider what okay when did

[01:27:15]   that when did that die hold on the VTX is getting really hot I got to cool it down a little bit has nothing to do with that though the goggles are working fine with the feed

[01:27:32]   from the Quad more micro fail safes all over the place yep there's another one now it's fine wow okay walks s just the bed okay when did that

[01:28:01]   start right after I landed it huh what the wny won't it I'm going to blame this cable I think it is not quad related this is either the WalkSnail cable or the

[01:28:35]   hd60s okay I guess we're not doing any more testing I guess maybe the cable the bed this cable has been a little bit flaky so I guess it finally died all the way

[01:29:01]   I am blowing on the quad okay it's gone well that's not going terribly well now I can't get the bt2.0 plug unplugged there we go OBS sees the hd60s

[01:29:36]   plus wow okay that's incredibly disappointing well the the hd60 is not it doesn't have any lights on it or anything weird no it's just de it just it's just dead either the cable

[01:30:11]   died or the hd60 died or maybe the the WalkSnail goggles are not wanting to outp let me power cycle the WalkSnail goggles maybe they're I don't know let's see

[01:30:26]   see all right they're coming back up you guys would not believe how quickly you can dump the temperature on your digital vtx's by blowing on them it goes down like a couple degrees a second it's

[01:30:44]   incredible there we go okay I I guess I needed to power cycle to walk snow goggles that's weird oh you piece of that was the cable I think it's a separate issue all right here's the iflight Zing

[01:30:59]   rig with a fresh battery no oh come on now oh I forgot to put the propeller wck on it user error okay it'll work way better with a fourth propeller don't help me

[01:31:21]   troubleshoot guys it makes me want to kill a child feels exactly the same it doesn't even sound bad I I swore last time I flew this it didn't oh why it feels exactly the same

[01:31:48]    it might be a little bit heavier with these motors but I can't tell I don't understand why so many people were likethe RC and power 102s are are God's gift to Motors they're they're

[01:32:05]   they're they're not I mean like there's nothing wrong with them but they're not God's gift to anything they're a 22,000 KB 102 like they're o rejection it's you just sit on Full

[01:32:43]   Throttle and just wait just all right hold on let's go go back to the RC and power rig now well no hold on let's do a fresh battery on this all right so this is a known good battery here

[01:33:05]   that I just ran down good we're going to fly a fresh battery on this I just realized that I I recycled the RC and power battery I'm just going to do a couple of Full Throttle blasts and then I'm

[01:33:17]   going to switch the battery over all right here we go Jun Loco I don't know man you got to ask YouTube that I have no idea I have no control ready all right that's the I flate zings

[01:33:47]   you could hear it right you can listen you can hear how high they spin up now if these motors are more powerful they'll spin up higher I have that specific pitch in my head I'm like

[01:33:59]   playing it over and over again that's what it sounded like now let's see RC in power come on come on come on come on come on come on walk now come on you can do it there we

[01:34:16]   go it's the same you can hear that right guys they're both 22 ,000 KV if you can get the RC and power motors get them cuz I think they're a little bit

[01:34:32]   lighter and they're better looking maybe the ey fls you can get them in black but no the the there's no difference between these and the zings going back to the zings same

[01:35:00]   battery okay sorry if I was a little short with you there Jun loo you're just like the third or fourth person to say that and it's just it's an I don't it pisses me off

[01:35:18]   that YouTube can't get their straightened out apologize if I took that out on you no these fly exactly the same man the rcan power isn't some magical fairy

[01:35:45]   motor ah okay that's good it's that's nice because we can get either motor and it's fine what I mean like this is good news this is good news that one of these motors is

[01:36:02]   not drastically more powerful than the other I'm going to pull the well I haven't tested the fly yet 661 so but no they're not neither one is faster than the other you'd be able

[01:36:27]   to hear it motor testing is is pretty easy when you can hear the motors because the when you go Full Throttle they'll wind up and if it's going to make more power it's going to go instead

[01:36:40]   of it's just going to go up a little bit and pitch I've been a musician since I was like N9 years old so I have a I have a pretty decent ear for pitch and notes so

[01:36:54]    I can tell like immediately when when a motor is winding up higher and that's just that's a dead giveaway it's just one of the really really really easy ways to tell if a motor

[01:37:06]   is going to make more power or if it's a higher KV or whatever it's what happens every single time another one of these 72s comes in that's a higher or a lower KV I can just I can hear it I can

[01:37:17]   hear that it winds up a little bit higher I'm trying to think of which of these I'm going to pull apart I'm going to pull the one apart with The iflight Zing Motors because I think

[01:37:29]   that they're a little bit heavier and there's just no reason to not run a slightly there's no reason not to run the the slightly lighter motor so that these I flate zings are

[01:37:44]   officially for sale I don't need three sets of 102s and you just saw they're completely fine this is not me trying to sell these motors by lying to you I I'm more interested in the testing

[01:38:01]   than recouping my $40 whole dollars or whatever it was that I paid for these motors so real quick like if you're ever interested in testing Motors or propellers here's how you do

[01:38:16]   it you buy a couple of extra frames and you bolt all the motors down to all different frames and then all you have to do is unplug the four Motors unscrew the four canopy bolts take the whole Center

[01:38:32]   section out and drop it into one of the other frames as you're about to watch me do that is the quickest way to head-to-head stuff and it's important to be quick with this because in my

[01:38:46]   brain right now is the flight feel and if too much time goes by I will forget that and it'll be a worse comparison point so you want to be as quick as possible that's why having

[01:39:02]   two identical rigs built is kind of sort of the best way the problem with that is how shitty the quality control is in the world of FPV components so two identical rigs are

[01:39:16]   anything but identical usually they're pretty damn identical but man it's a it's tough they're they're they're really not actually identical but they're usually close enough there's

[01:39:28]   so much variance in all this stuff that it's tough but I do my level best this is the best testing setup that I've found usually I can I can tell a difference quite frankly when I can't

[01:39:48]   tell a difference it's not bad news it's just like cool it doesn't matter which one get either one they both perform totally fine or not they both perform like don't get either one but you

[01:40:00]   know what I'm saying it's okay there one of the one of the things that's really cool about like diving deep on this stuff and putting the time in to research individual components is

[01:40:21]   every once in a while file you will find that unicorn component that is really cheap really durable and really good right powerful whatever clean fast whatever but

[01:40:41]   that's pretty rare usually there is not that unicorn usually stuff performs as advertised which is why doing this testing of like testing three different

[01:40:56]   102s it's always like oh like like I get excited because there might be that unicorn and that feels good when there is but when I don't find that unicorn a lot of times it's like well that

[01:41:08]   was a waste of time not at all that was not a waste of time at all in fact that's a better situation is a better situation that you guys can buy any of these motors and have get 102

[01:41:22]   22,000 AV worth of power it's actually way more annoying when there in when there is that unicorn because then all you guys go out and buy it and it goes out of stock for two months and

[01:41:34]   then when it comes back in it gets discontinued or lit on fire some and there we go well no I got to plug these in but that's how quick you can

[01:41:46]    have a have your test bed kind of change and these frames are cheap right and you're going to break them at some point so it's good to have extra frames so do itdo

[01:42:02]   it do some head-to-head testing friends it's fun it's actually a really good exercise to do too because you can really like it really forces you to tap into like a different set of brain muscles in

[01:42:20]   terms of like what you're thinking about and what you're feeling for when you're flying all that being said Beware the placebo it is very strong if there's any chance that you don't feel a

[01:42:38]   difference between the two things that you're testing you're not feeling a difference between the two things you're testing the placebo is going well you stupid son of a you spent 50 some

[01:42:49]   dollars on these motors you godamn better feel a difference you must be an idiot if you can't feel a difference Ciotti felt the difference n don't hold yourself up to anybody else here we go flywoo let's

[01:43:06]   give him a listen this battery looks physically beat up so that's not good nothing is on I plugged the quad in but nothing is on I'm going to get caught up on the

[01:43:24]    oh good call coal Powers looking at the OSD for the RPM thank you dude oh I pulled the I pulled the propeller off of this one well it's okay I pulled the wrong propeller off anyway

[01:43:38]   it's fine let's fly it and then we'll and we'll test it I have another battery on the charger right now oh the other battery is at 4.33 let's just fly this real quick on this banged up

[01:43:47]   battery and I'll see if I can hear that pitch being different transmitter what are you doing you going to turn on for me or you going to just be a

[01:43:55]   jerk oh the motors are not spinning the right direction forgot about that part that's the other part that's the other part that that you got to do is you got to put them into de BetaFlight and get the

[01:44:13]   motor spin in the right direction but the pitch that I heard on the ground was pretty damn similar to what I heard on those other two so it's probably the same but we'll

[01:44:24]   see connecting BetaFlight here we go the sound of our people motor Direction wizard yes go motor one is props in that's wrong motor two props out that's right motor three props out

[01:44:47]   motor four props in that's wrong reverse it stop Motors everybody's making thrust here we go double check out out out and out we're good all

[01:45:02]   right disconnect unplug here we are okay I'm just gonna nope I'm going to take the battery that's fresh off the charger it's stupid not to here we

[01:45:15]   go and I'm going to throw one of these other batteries back onto the charger to get it ah perfect that one's at 4 25 it'll probably be up to full Voltage in a minute and then I will put it in beta

[01:45:29]   flight and we'll do that RPM test in BetaFlight and then we will have tested all three of these 102s as unscientifically as possible that's not true this is a I don't know

[01:45:47]   80% accurate test to get that extra 20% is a complete waste of time in my opinion here we go same now a little bit less I think let's get an RPM reading from the OSD real quick all I got to do is disarm

[01:46:18]   44766 I think these might be making a little bit less power oh my guess would be the the magnets are not as thick or they're not as strong or something a little toe shot there for

[01:46:36]   it let's go upstairs with it boy man these the like you would think that up here these things would really shine but they don't the 65mm rigs are just so much better not I

[01:47:00]   mean yes these are carrying around WalkSnail but I don't know man I I expected so much more from 75mm and it just like kind of constantly lets me

[01:47:16]   down it's totally flyable though and I mean if you want one rig to fly outside and inside I don't know I would still do a 65 but oh God why me oh man that weight I could not get it

[01:47:50]   to stop charging for that the base on that little Jib Jab ah what I was trying to do what I was trying to do was this that's what I was trying to do that is cool looking let's get that

[01:48:20]   again oh I love it I love that give me more okay how did that RPM how did that RPM compare this is now dead 4.33 kind of close hold on let me put a bunch of these batteries on here check

[01:48:48]   the voltages 4.29 4.02 so for the record if you fly a battery down to 3.5 volts and you come in and then it bounces all the way back up to like 3.9 or

[01:49:13]   3.8 if it bounces up to 3.8 I'm cool if it bounces up to like 3.9 or four that is a battery that is either either that battery is done or you've got a rig that is sagging the out of your

[01:49:30]   batteries and you need and so either you're just okay with that or look into a battery try to find a battery with more Mah or that might be also be a sign to go up to a bigger

[01:49:42]   motor a motor that gets too hot is going to saturate and just eat more amps than it needs to so pay attention to that first thing to consider though is is the is the the battery just shot but

[01:50:00]   if you have a bunch of batteries that are doing that something else is going on let's plug it into BetaFlight do you guys have those RPM numbers handy can somebody scroll back

[01:50:08]   up and chat and look for them real quick while I get this plugged into beater flight bl550 with a $5 Super Chat thank you dude he says what are your thoughts on hd0 freestyle V2 VTX

[01:50:23]   I cannot I want to love hd0 I can't that VTX is awful heavy and awful expensive and the video quality is not great the latency is awesome but I would rather just run analog for a lot

[01:50:38]   less money it's not hd0 is not better enough than analog to justify the incredible increase in cost especially if you already have analog stuff which I do

[01:50:54]   if I was coming into the hobby fresh I guess then it would be hd0 although it is still an awful lot more expensive here we go wait no I got to get the battery plugged

[01:51:05]   in let's compare this to the other one unloaded motor and then the loaded Motors I don't remember any of those numbers hopefully you guys do here we go understand the risks this is the

[01:51:19]   unloaded motor 85,000 I think I remember that and then the loaded down ones 52,000 yep 52,000 they're all the same my friends all the same all the 102s are the Same by the ones that are

[01:51:39]   the coolest color the the flywoo 23,500 are gold and purple the RC and powers are are light blue and pink or orange the zings are black buy the ones that are either in stock or are your favorite color buy

[01:52:03]   the ones that are your favorite color cuz you deserve your rigs to look good let's put this prop back on here and we're going to fly the flywoo rig and then we're going to fly the RC and power

[01:52:15]   rig so that we have kind of back to back these two cuz that's what I said I was going to do and damn it I'm going to do it I'm going to going to take a completely fresh battery

[01:52:24]   here and that'll be the last thing we do tonight my friends I no I'm gonna get caught up on chat too but let me go over to the RC and power

[01:52:36]   rig no let's stick with the the flywoo rig and then we'll do the RC and power rig here we go you guys don't mind watching me fly I assume here we

[01:53:04]   go ah ah twice let me through you oh get you some hey oh that almost got stuck in my hair oh God what a unbelievable

[01:53:33]   rejection that was like my whole High School your boy's on fire night what it is I was flying those those big heavy rigs I was flying those big heavy sub 250

[01:53:49]   Rigs and so I'm like I'm out of that like ultra light 655 mm tiny mode oh God that sounded awful all right flew that down to 3.7 let's go right over to the RC and power rig with this

[01:54:10]   4.34 volt battery and it's going to be exactly the same maybe maybe not RCN power going up 16bit says it combines the blurriness of digital with the breakup of analog the

[01:54:30]   worst of Both Worlds I don't understand HD Z I think that's one of the best descriptions I've ever heard of it looks exactly the same doesn't it friends I know this this maybe this has

[01:54:52]   a little bit more maybe this has a little bit more stank I'm not sure but maybe stop it get out of there stop it my goodness oh live stream on Wednesday

[01:55:27]   is going to be 6: to8 because it's my birthday don't miss it's going to be a real Extravaganza that's not going to be a real Extravaganza oh

[01:55:46]   oh that was a hard hit baby that was a big nasty slam seems to have survived though I got I don't know I don't know what happened there I got a little bit off and I ended up full throttling

[01:56:09]   it into the ground ah I knew I wasn't going to be to settle it down oh man I love that I really love that I got come up with a name for this oh boy so that's the problem with

[01:56:35]   doing that is that it opens the door for just full throttling into the bottom of the coffee table I'm going to call this the simulator flick I think and I'm going to mess it all up

[01:56:53]   yikes hopefully that didn't hit any buttons that mattered so that's the RC and power rig real quick because I need to dump this battery down I'm going to swap back over to the flywoo

[01:57:10]   rig and there we go come on plug in come on come on come on come on come on come on there it goes here we go nah man it's exactly the same shame on flywoo

[01:57:41]   for marking these a higher KV than they actually are maybe they might actually be the higher KV I doubt it a rejected oh you bastard ah there it was almost G gross that doesn't

[01:58:12]   count oh screw you stop clinking me oh you where did you what come on oh what if I what if I had gone through that oh man that's the next move we got to hit all right hold on so in

[01:58:40]   order to line this up oh boy if I can hit this there's no better pilot on Earth I'm never going to be able to do it so to here's how you line it up though right through there keep it

[01:58:55]   straight Ah that's unrecoverable oh no here we go try it again leave me alone no no see man that's I'm going to get it but it's not going to be tonight not going to be with this rig

[01:59:37]   either Jesus getting some good crash smash stress testing in though that's a big throw to get it out of here oh there it was there that was it come

[01:59:57]   down oh no that's a big oh boy down here like this oh that's tough to get it that high fire tonight come on now this is the best I've flown these rigs all I got to do is fly big stuff outside

[02:00:22]   and then I can fly the fat rigs inside but but and it's a big butt it's a big fat butt watch this a big fat one coming at you here we go watch this my friends watch this this

[02:00:46]   is what you really want what's about to happen you it what's coming this is the Mobula 6 2024 with a couple of simple mods at

[02:01:07]   17.1 grams and a BetaFPV lava battery watch this get a load of this my friends oh my God these goddamn goggles are so much nicer oh fat sharks are just delightful oh my god get over there let me go thank

[02:01:46]   you oh come on now you can't tell me that you that you want to FL what is with the video why is it flashing like this hold on oh my God what a difference oh my God this is so much better this

[02:02:06]   is the rig that had that weird video going on didn't it I think it was on the camera side I think it's the the wires going into the camera I'm just poking them with a stick

[02:02:17]   right now that's probably going to fix it all right now probably fine that's how you fix analog you poke it with a stick look now it's fine same

[02:02:35]   rates much cheaper right this rig costs less than half as much oh oh no no this is so much more fun sorry but it is like this is just you can just do everything it's

[02:03:00]   nutty it's just come on this is what you want why do you need the better video quality what's the point nobody's going to watch your footage anyway watch they don't watch

[02:03:19]   mine and what do you think like what what's the comment that you want to get right damn you're such a good pilot or damn your video looks so good right you do you want to be the star of

[02:03:37]   the show do you want your gear to be the start of the show start of the show did you see how hard that changed Direction on that Matty flip holy Christ

[02:03:55]   ah what if I just like nailed that new move oh wait let me try the let me try the Sim flick oh my God I can flick it to the other side of the building ah get me in

[02:04:16]   there my God oh that was almost it you slimy son of a you man it's hard to see it happens so quick it's hard to even see if I'm doing

[02:04:35]   it pretty sure I haven't done it yet though a that's it though oh you fartbag bastard if you're seeing Jello every once in a while these motors are hammered ass we did a live stream where I durability

[02:04:59]   tested this rig and man it took a lot of abuse but the motors are are worse for the wear for sure damn it this is hard this is really really difficult wa FPV lava battery holding up

[02:05:22]   good 2 and A2 minutes h i I just tried to force it I tried to force it in the hole friends never force it you guys know that one last try before the battery's done lava battery 3 minutes and 8

[02:05:47]   seconds it's a folded self 300mah just like all the other ones ones go figure we're going to hit that trick tonight my friends I hate to break it to anybody that wants to get some sleep

[02:06:01]   but Teddy's Teddy's a in bed with aelia here we go oh what was that whoa God o easy easy when the battery is full the hover point is significantly lower

[02:06:25]   ready this is the one oh that was almost the one not quite oh that's it though that's it that's the move in two phases so I just have to line up see what I'm doing see how I'm lining it up

[02:06:40]   here I don't have to fly through this I can just line it up down low and setting this Tower dive Matty flip reverse dive nonsense from down low is a lot easier right so line them up line up the round

[02:06:53]   gate and the and the tower approach and throw it's if if I go into it slow enough I don't need to add an extra throttle blip to kill the forward momentum to keep it

[02:07:08]   off the door but it kind of helps to there's just so many things to hit there's a goddamn drum set there there there's the chairs a hard 12inch Tom hit on that one we

[02:07:41]   go ah the dive is hard man there it is you sons of suck it TRC oh that's the I think that's the hardest thing that we've done down here oh I was trying to do

[02:08:09]   this oh boy oh that was just delicious let's do it again oh I thought we're I thought I was going to get it again I was like no way twice in a row no

[02:08:28]   way ah it's so hard to Matty flip into the reverse dive thing it's really hard I don't know if I'll ever be able to do that consistently there's just so much going

[02:08:41]   on ah and the the exit is hands down the hardest part it is just so hard to get it out of there blindly in between the bass drum here and this this is a you jerk off this is a really small

[02:08:58]   Gap right here that is that's tough no and then I also have to like keep it off the ground right it can't hit the ground or it gets all upset that was oh that was almost it but

[02:09:20]   there was award pause where I kind it was kind of forcing it I don't really if IID hit that I wouldn't have considered that clean no an old beat up tiny whoop folded cell

[02:09:44]   300 that ran for 3 minutes and 10 but if I go high KV I'll lose all my run time nope that's right fat shark goggles beep I love it when you beep keep beeping and I will definitely not smash you into a

[02:10:03]   thousand bits it got that one last beep in just as a final little you all right how was that everybody happy good live stream I've got to I've got to get caught up on chat there's probably a

[02:10:27]   bunch of really good chat messages up there let's do that and then we will part ways for the evening buy whatever 102s are your favorite color next time we're going to

[02:10:40]   check out 1003s we'll put the RC and power 103s up against the RC and Power 102s and we can also take a look at the BetaFPV 1102s on the bigger no what no these are the iflight

[02:11:10]   motors sorry BetaFPV 1102s on the meteor 75 fat ass Pro frame bl550 with a $2 Super Chat thank you homie says what's your go-to analog 20 X20 VTX on a 3-in quad the not the rush I don't like the

[02:11:28]   rush 20 x2s I don't have one I have all old analog vtx's that are not sold anymore I don't know anything about the new boys that's satisfying I don't know anything about like the current

[02:11:44]   generation of analog vtx's but I do know that I've had three of the Rush 20 X20 vtx's and they've all sucked the bag of dicks their output power is very low for what they are and they're just

[02:11:59]   they're just no good so don't get those which is crazy because the all the other Rush vtx's seem to be totally fine oh boy that's tough to do there it is got it

[02:12:23]    the RC and power 103s are probably going to be the best on this big fat frame So eventually they'll end up on this but I do want to try them on the smaller frames first

[02:12:35]    even though I shouldn't but I will if you want to reinforce a Mobula 7 V4 frame here's where you should put E6000 this is where I find the Mobula 7 V4 frames break eventually they're very

[02:12:57]   durable but if you put some E6000 in these little spots here that's the piece of plastic that I keep breaking on them this piece of plastic here that holds the bottom of

[02:13:08]   the battery so just put a little bit of E6000 there on the parts where that connects and it'll make it a lot stronger there you go where have you guys broken your

[02:13:23]   mobula 7 V4 frames Co power s looks like a stripper spinning tassels around that's what I was going for I'll be honest I was shooting for that exactly 3.8 there we go that battery is good to

[02:13:42]   sit 4.14 I'll let that one charge up and I'll fly it tomorrow maybe let me get caught up on Chad and then we will part ways look here's where all you guys tried to help me troubleshoot and made

[02:13:57]   me even angrier Kil zebra says for what it's worth Els doesn't so much choose a channel it jumps between channels and a deterministic but unique order based on your bind phrase and packet rate

[02:14:10]   settings good to know thank you dude Euro FPV asks a while ago like an hour ago have you tried or heard anything about the sub 250 102 2100 KV Motors I have not and it's a

[02:14:33]   little bit lower of a k like I don't want to go below 22,000 is too low as it is so I don't know they're probably not going to make more power than these so I I I'm not going to get I'm not

[02:14:44]   going to spend 50 60 more dollars Jay hin says dumb question if I upgrade my motor on a Mobula 6 old do I need to double check the motor rotation and bet FL absolutely

[02:14:56]   absolutely Frank Nicholas says 78k versus 52k Loaded thank you dude got that got that okay here we go and C power says if you get a new HDMI cable find a coiled one they tend to take a bit more

[02:15:26]   flexing the problem with all these cables is the the plug the plug does not lock into the goggles quite good enough TH this Cable's been fine though that was weird I had the power cycle the walk

[02:15:38]   snail that was super weird Denzel terrible says I help SE troubleshoot because he hates it's gives me joy j l says why is the video Co power says both quads OSD report 46,000 Max ESC RPM

[02:15:53]   parkour guy says my lack of experience and your experience from years are exactly why I support you to test these I really thought the RC and power motors were God me too man I heard from so

[02:16:02]   many people that I trust that the RC and power motors perform like they have a higher KV and Yad y y and then last week when I put them on and flew them I was like no these are exactly the same as

[02:16:13]   all the other ones but I was like okay I haven't head-to-head them I'll head tohe head them next week and here we are it makes a lot of sense though that they would not be God

[02:16:23]   Motors because you make a motor that's 102 and then you make it 22 is, KV it's and I'm also not convinced that there's not one company making all of these motors and RC and power says

[02:16:37]   Hey make our Bell look like this pink and pink and teal and then flywoo says make our Bell look like this but gold and purple and then Zing says make our Bell look like this

[02:16:49]   black r power how about Orange you want some orange perfect we were just thinking what would be cool a bright orange motor I'm not a fan of orange I just offended the out of everybody that

[02:17:03]   loves orange parkour guy says would you ever test 102 as on an analog build love to see how not having walk sale improves I have I've run the flywoo 102s on the analog Jungle Gym Bashers

[02:17:15]   and as we found out tonight the flywoo 102s are pretty much exactly the same as the other on they're too heavy the the analog builds are light enough where a 102 is a needless amount of extra motor

[02:17:30]   weight and the KV is not high enough on the jungle gy Bashers the 802 is perfect because you've got six less grams from no WalkSnail so they're not going to get as hot because they're not dragging

[02:17:45]   around all that extra weight so you're going to benefit from and then your your benefit is that the motor is lighter weight so the weight on the ends of the arms is significantly significantly

[02:17:55]   lighter that helps the pit Loop it helps the general flight performance the snappiness and then 802s you can get in a higher KV and you can actually use if if we could get these 102s in 25,000

[02:18:08]   27,000 30,000 KV they would rail but nobody makes them in those higher KVs so we're limited and so what I'm now doing what I'm now left to do is try bigger stator sizes the beta

[02:18:24]   FPV 1102 the RCN power 103 at some point the VCI 0803 I placed an order and they said we're at a stock until the middle of May I was like could have told me that on the

[02:18:45]   website but I like VCI so they get it pass but I wish somebody made a higher KV 102 Cole power says did you say that the WalkSnail rigs are running by blades they are if so wouldn't you

[02:19:02]   want Tri blades for such a low KV you would think so but every single time I try the tri blades they perform worse than the by blades both on 1.2 in and 1.6 in props there's just something

[02:19:17]   magic about the GemFan by blades that they they perform better they're better balanced and they make more thrust I've done this a bunch of times and I've tried all of the tri blades other than

[02:19:30]   the AIS because they're just way too fragile and the the the 1.6 in by blades are God in 1.2 in World we've got the two brand new Tri blades that are phenomenal but they really

[02:19:48]   don't make more power do the the GemFan 1219 s's do make a little bit more power than the than the than the by blades but not much there's something about the tiny whoop by blades that it's

[02:20:02]    I think it's just because they're light they're they're very lightweight and they're very efficient and they spin up and down really quick and we're running really high KV Motors

[02:20:11]   so that's going to benefit that but I've done it over and over and over again I've tried the the the 16008 Tri blades from GemFan those perform the best I've tried the

[02:20:24]   old school I actually have them sitting right here because I was just testing them here's the 16008 here's the 1635 from geman HQ doesn't make any props any any tiny woop props with a 1 and a half

[02:20:38]   millimeter motor shaft so can't test any of theirs but none of the other Tri blades and I've also done the quad blades they're even worse so it's super

[02:20:48]   annoying Coal Power says I would laugh so hard if you landed on your keyboard and it somehow fix the stream stuttering L board says do if removing a diode from a

[02:20:59]   Vista if it does power on from being blown out will it work as a fixed if I don't I I I know for a sure that I don't know the answer to that question I don't I'm not totally

[02:21:14]   sure of what you're asking but I'm sure that I don't know the answer to what you're asking soap Legend says happy early birthday have a good one thank you very much

[02:21:24]   Brandon's big bean says oh that's right Brandon has the same exact birthday is May we're we're we're not the same age though right you weren't born in 81 like I was were you Brandon

[02:21:34]   that would be too weird Cole power says unleash the Ted Monster wish I could he's upstairs sleeping or just staring at hisia while she sleeps Jun Loco says the woke snail video glitch more

[02:21:45]   than glitches more than the analog feed that's weird man I don't I I have no idea BL thank you again for the Super Chat C pow says looks like a stripper spinning tassels around parkour guy says

[02:22:00]   what's the point of 102 I don't know seems it's heavier and had less power what kind of rig would you freestyle with these I don't know hope these weren't a wasteful

[02:22:11]   purchase we are the same age that's weird I have heard a bunch of people say that 102 is a worthless motor size I think that's a bit much because these rigs fly okay I'm not

[02:22:31]   happy with the way they fly but a lot of people would be a lot of people would be to look the the rotor Riot Vision 20 is this it's a little bit heavier because it's got a stupid 3D printed

[02:22:44]   canopy but the rotor Riot Vision 20 is this and when that thing came out everybody went bananas oh my God this is the best flying tiny whoop ever blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

[02:22:57]   so plenty of people love 102s I just have impossible standards and I want these to fly better than they do and I think that they can if we find if somebody will make 102s in a higher

[02:23:12]   KV I think that's it I think 102 is a motor size that is just at the moment limited by motor manufacturers not getting it and not understanding that if they just make higher KV Motors

[02:23:30]   we can motor limit them in BetaFlight and then it doesn't like I get the only thing I can think of is that they're worried that if they make a higher KV motor it's going to burn and

[02:23:44]   then people are going to be like oh RC and power is 102s suck other than that it's driving me insane that nobody's making a higher KV motor all that being said I think that 803 is a better motor

[02:23:59]   size when you look at when you look at the current Motors that we've settled on as the best Motors in each particular propeller size 5 in we've got 227s and 236s the ratio of height to

[02:24:18]   width on those two Motors is 3 to1 1 and 4:1 shrink all the way 11:04 4 612 3:1 basically 11:04 I'm sorry 1404 4 8 12 16 so 3 and 1 half to one right ratio of width to height three and A2

[02:24:40]   one 5in Motors 3: 1 4 to one 0702 is going all the way down to a t the smallest tiny whoop 07 02s 2 468 3 and 1/2 to 1 3 and 1/2 to 1 102 2 4681 5 to one that's a cop motor these

[02:25:02]   kind of fly like cop Motors it's not the end of the world we look at like 204s 4 8 12 16 20 5 to1 204s fly great on three and a half inch props even 4 inch props but the smaller the rig

[02:25:21]   gets the more you need to dial the motors in perfectly so I think 102s a 102s just need higher KV that's all there is to it that would fix most of the problems with 102s but I also think

[02:25:33]   that it's too wide of a motor and it's not tall of a motor 803 it's actually the VCI is actually not an 803 it's an 8026 or an 8028 so let's say it's an 802 and A2 basically 2 and A2 five 7 and A2 that's

[02:25:51]   basically eight that's pretty damn close to 3 to 1 3 to one right that's why I'm so excited about the 803 if it was an actual 803 H right 3698 it's kind of two and a half to one

[02:26:06]   that's getting a little narrow you don't want a motor that's too narrow and Too Tall because then it gets too hot so that could potentially be one of the issues with the 102 is it's just too

[02:26:18]   wide but the the big problem is 22,000 KV is not enough we do not have if someone was would to would produce a 1 and a half millim motor shaft really lightweight really

[02:26:31]   pitchy trib blad prop that would help but that doesn't exist right now it does with the AIS but they just explode so I don't even test them because it's just unrealistic if I were to if I test them

[02:26:46]   it's like damn this is the this is it this propeller is the greatest all right let me go fly F them every time I crash they're going to explode and it's just like what's I don't even want

[02:26:54]   to know I'm pretty sure that they will be great cuz I have tested them before but I've stopped testing them because they're just unrealistic to run unless you never crash and in that case why

[02:27:06]   even fly Cole power says so what you're saying is someone needs to make an 0903 AT like 50,000 KV an 0903 at 30,000 KV and then we motor limit's down or letter rip that would

[02:27:23]   be it I think that would be the one I would be totally happy though with a 30,000 KV 102 that would be absolutely fine but it's not going to happen it just isn't Euro FPV with the last

[02:27:38]   comment of the night he says would the 102 be better for a 2in toothpick style maybe because different propeller options if the this 102 22,000 KV if you pair it with a

[02:28:00]   lightweight propeller that has a good amount of pitch it's going to perform well the the problem that we're having here is that this is the only prop option and this

[02:28:11]   propeller needs to be spun faster so if you go from 1.6 in up to 2 in that's going to help the problem though is that the GemFan 2in byblade propellers are pretty heavy so at 2 in there there

[02:28:28]   are some other 2in props that are interesting I haven't paid super close attention real quick I'm kind of curious now I'm only going to check pyro drone because they have a great propeller

[02:28:44]   selection but look around at all of the 2in propellers so these G F hurricanes this is a great propeller but look at it you can just see it's a big thick heavy beefy prop and this is a

[02:28:59]   tiny little motor so that's not a great this is going to be a much better match this propeller might although this is really low pitch 08 pitch this is a 1610 this is a more pitchy 1.6 inch prop

[02:29:16]   but this is probably the propeller that you would want to pair with the 102 and the pitch numbers are not everything all the rest of these props are going to be too heavy this is only a 1 mm motor

[02:29:27]   shaft cuz HQ is completely out of touch with reality there's a one and a half inch version but it looks like the top of the propeller is closed again HQ is completely out of touch with

[02:29:41]   reality don't buy this propeller no no you're good you're good the the these these motor shafts on these propellers are nice and short so snag snag a couple of sets of these

[02:29:55]    and a couple of sets of these what what's it say the pitch see the pitch is still are you really not even going to tell us what the pitch is pitch is 1.5 there we go these propellers

[02:30:07]   might be good these are the one these are the best ones so far rest of these are way too this is 65 millimet that's 2.5 inch know that's it the rest of these props are way too

[02:30:24]   heavy so with either these GemFan 208s or these HQ 51x tws these motors would would probably come alive a lot more the problem's going to be a 2-in rig is going to get significantly heavier than

[02:30:42]   this so you're you're you're going to potentially be fighting a losing War but if you can get it light enough these motors would probably be a better match these motors almost certainly are

[02:30:56]   a better match on those propellers although they might not be those propellers are going to be bigger heavier more draggy and that might be too much for these motors we might be

[02:31:07]   maxing out these motors it's really hard to know a lot of this testing I'm doing is there's not many people testing this there's a bunch of people flying it but but 99% of

[02:31:18]   people they fly this and they go ah it's so great it's the best thing I've ever flown everything is the best thing they've ever flown that's just worthless that's just but I get it because it's

[02:31:28]   really hard to tell it's is genuinely difficult to tell the difference between this stuff and there's not many people that have been flying micros for eight plus years seven plus years so

[02:31:43]    I don't know the search continues My Friends by whichever 102s you like the color of best cuz they all fly the same my name is Aaron Ciotti and that's my prle

[02:32:00]   advice www.pv.com has a million ways that you can support me the only way that I can do this as good as I do it is that you beautiful people support me if you have $3 a month throw it my way over on

[02:32:16]   patreon you will get a ton of benefits you will love my nuts and we will keep hanging out together see you guys on Wednesday at 6 o'clock remember six o'clock on

[02:32:31]   Wednesday is is when the live stream is going to go up and I expect you to be there because it's my birthday damn it my birthday present is you coming to the live stream and hanging out don't not

[02:32:42]   get me anything I'll be very upset here's some more flying from the no no no here's some here's some flying from the wedding hold on let me give you guys a

[02:33:02]    good let me give you guys a good one hold on this is the the the mix of this flight footage with the song that's going to play in the outro is going to

[02:33:25]   be shocking here's also a little bit of a look into like the creative process of come fly around a wedding you don't get shot lists with FPV you get like come out and do

[02:33:57]   something cool that we can then edit in so you gotta like you got to think about what the hell can I do here that an editor can actually use unless you don't care if you're just in it for the

[02:34:10]   paycheck whatever come wiggle around but then you you won't get hired back when that happens so don't do that and then people will never bring FPV on set again don't do that

[02:34:30]   either give you guys this one this is the first battery I flew be good my friends see you Wednesday come on there we go so the first thing you're going to see is an idea that I had of like

[02:34:57]   showing these pictures that they had up but the the reflections on the pictures you'll see there was just no reason and I just scrapped it and said to hell with it but there you go

[02:35:09]   love you bye n a n n