[00:03:12]   hey friends my name is Aaron Ciotti and I'm scrambling to get ready for this live stream welcome to Sunday Q&A that was the end of the the end of my prop testing for 2in 2S tiny

[00:03:34]   whoops and I'm shocked I'm shocked at at which ones I think perform the best I think it's because the motors that I'm running on this thing are pretty big but 2in tiny whoops are kind of big

[00:03:52]   like the the the frames that are available are heavy as hell and so we kind of might as well run big old motors on them and so we're going to talk about that today we're going to talk about the

[00:04:07]   four main prop options for 2in tiny whoops and what my sort of impressions are on each of them so that should be fun this is also a Q&A live stream as they all are and

[00:04:23]   oh I forgot to put mailbag in the title it's a mailbag live stream hold on I'm fixing the title right now mail bag there we go and we're going to fly a bunch of

[00:04:40]   batteries as well speaking of I got to get those on the charger I've got a bunch of 2S batteries on the charger here here's a top tip for you BT 3.0 when you plug it into the charger

[00:04:57]   don't plug it all the way in the charger is not like pushing a ton of voltage into it and it fits really tight in the tooth ster so don't just don't push them all the

[00:05:08]   way in there because otherwise you're going to put too you're going to put a bunch of stress here when you're unplugging it from the Quad anyway because it fits a little too tight

[00:05:19]   but that's what she said so it'll be fine no don't plug them in all the way cuz otherwise you're going to destroy them and you shouldn't do that all right throwing a couple of one ass

[00:05:34]   batteries on the charger here bunch of 260s I've been flying these 260s a lot lately I'm pretty impressed by them I mean you don't get three minutes of runtime but I mean two

[00:05:46]   and a half 2 minutes and 40 that's pretty good and they're significantly lighter so nothing wrong with that I'm kind of digging them I I wrote them off you do get less power with them they

[00:06:02]   they sag to the point where like you don't really get full power when you really Hammer Full Throttle on these higher RPM builds but like you get enough power it's enough you get

[00:06:15]   plenty Stop Being Greedy you can be greedy it's fine day seven I'm making a new folder in here day 7 of 04 tiny whoop testing that's the file I just copied over there from the

[00:06:40]    from the Quad itself and then we'll grab the F we'll grab the file from the goggles and what maybe we'll do no I can't do that I don't have a way of I was going to say I'll fly the 1.6 inch

[00:06:58]   prop to us rig inside the house but you guys don't have a way of watching that so that's kind of that that that I would have to like DV you'd have to just watch me Stevie Wonder and then I would

[00:07:11]   DVR it and then I would put the thing in the thing and that's just kind of silly in the chat bad was first yanuk was next Motocross pickles I don't know if that's actually what it means but that's

[00:07:26]   what I'm going to call them now Michael kajas yes I King dingling Gusto FPV Islander nuron Johnny cat space b spiff Matthew Wagner Islander FPV lster BMF Spade danzel the terrible asander Robert

[00:07:40]   Pope CM 11783 what's that about notice Douglas 6 Uriel Northern Tier Ben Anderson four little pigs ler doubles FPV nuron choni and higgy 47 cxb FPV eat your veg Gusto chonan Brandon's

[00:08:03]   baked beans brand Anderson Craig chonan notice lots of repeats here I think I got everybody if I didn't get you better look next time or you can just type CiottiFPV in your chat message if you

[00:08:23]   do that it'll light up an orange for me you can do that with each other if you type someone's name and you spell it correctly and you put the spaces in the right places I didn't mean that to rhyme

[00:08:34]    for that person it'll light up an orange you can even do it for yourself if you want to see what it looks like King dingling tagged me and said how are your 2023 s props mine are a

[00:08:46]   little looser than the older 2023 is I had one fly off HappyModel 113s four stories in the air on my 2ins Rocket Race yikes I've been pretty Blown Away by all of these 2in props in terms of how they

[00:09:03]   fit on these HappyModel 1103 Motors they're kind of all perfect what's interesting though is that they when I push them all the way down against the motor I can't get the prop popper in

[00:09:17]   there I have to just grab the propeller and then grab the motor and just brute force them apart don't twist the propeller when you're doing that understand that the majority

[00:09:34]   of these tiny little Motors the the connection point between the motor shaft and the bell is no stronger than an 0702 most of these tiny little motors have a 1.5 mm motor

[00:09:52]   shaft that is not splined and it's not knurled and so it's not all that strong and the the connection point between the motor shaft and the bell is a laser weld

[00:10:06]   which it's lets go pretty easily and the the easiest way that you can wreck that is to rotate the propeller when you're when you're trying to get it off of the motor

[00:10:18]    it is I know that makes it a lot easier to get the propeller off and sometimes the propellers will get jammed on the motor so hard that that's the only way of doing

[00:10:32]   it that right there is the reason that you need to have a 1.5 millim drill bit's actually a 1.47 millim drill bit which I sell over on my Etsy store this drill bit will properly size the

[00:10:49]   inner diameter of your 1.5 mm props so that they go onto and off the motors without ruining them it's super super super important once you break that laser weld or once you

[00:11:05]   fatigue that laser weld that motor does not have very long to live the best thing that you can possibly do is use the prop popper the the prop popper has a set of forks

[00:11:19]   my favorite one is the Clone popper from Tiny whoop it has a set of forks and it has a pin you drive the forks underneath the propeller in between in between the propeller and the motor Bell and then

[00:11:32]   the pin pushes down on the motor shaft and so the only Force that's being applied is the forks coming upwards and pulling the propeller off it doesn't put any Force into the connection between

[00:11:46]   the motor shaft and the motor Bell sometimes though it's impossible to wedge the forks so it's really important to push the propeller all the way down on the motor if you don't if the

[00:12:00]   propeller is sitting up on the Bell the the motor these motor shafts are not all that strong and the higher the propeller the longer the lever trying to bend that motor shaft so the best way to make the

[00:12:15]   motor shaft not Bend which is the most common failure Point is to push the propeller all the way down the other thing that does is when the propeller is all the way down if this is the motor

[00:12:26]   Bell if the propeller is all the way down here when gets hit the The Hub of the propeller is actually going to push against the motor Bell as opposed to if the propeller is

[00:12:39]   up even a little bit's dumps all of that Force into the motor shaft itself and so pushing the props all the way down is really really important but again the problem with doing that is

[00:12:51]   that if you haven't drilled that propeller out and it's not and it doesn't have the perfect inner diameter which most of them don't you can push that so hard down against the the motor Bell that it

[00:13:07]   becomes almost impossible sometimes impossible to get the forks of the prop popper in there the reason that I like the Clone popper so much is that the forks are the thinnest and so

[00:13:22]   there's the best chance of getting these Forks in there be be advised that you can absolutely break the forks on this clone popper I've broken one already I was really

[00:13:38]   abusing it though I I had a prop that was stuck on a on a toothpick rig I hadn't drilled that prop out and I was just really cranking on this thing and then it broke one of the Little Forks

[00:13:49]   off so if you're ever like really putting a ton of force in this you got to into this the Clone popper you got to stop the other prop pullers that are out there that don't have super thin

[00:14:02]   Forks those are the ones that you can use on the really stubborn props but by that point like you're kind of screwed but by the point that you push a propeller onto a motor too hard you've

[00:14:14]   actually already hurt that laser weld because when you're pushing the propeller on really hard the there's the bell and then there's the motor shaft and not many motors have a c clip on top

[00:14:27]   and so you're trying to just you're trying to break that motor the harder you push the propeller on the more you're trying to push that motor shaft down through the

[00:14:36]   Bell the reason why brute forcing so I was just flying these I finally got my GemFan 2009 by 3es and so as an example let me I haven't taken one of these off

[00:14:52]   yet so I don't want to spin this if I spin this since the motor shaft and the bell are not knurled they're not splined if I spin it I can put a shitload of force on that connection between on that

[00:15:05]   laser Weld and again if I fatigue that laser weld it's game over the reason that you can just pull and just Brute Force pull the damn thing is because there's a c clip on the bottom and so if

[00:15:18]   you pull on the motor shaft like this that c clip is pushing up against the washers there is a little bit of a gap though th this is where like none of this is a good idea like pushing

[00:15:33]   propellers on and removing propellers from these little motors with a lot of force is bad top to bottom because there's a little bit of a gap between that c clip and the washers and so if

[00:15:47]   I pull this hard enough and slip that motor shaft it'll close that c clip Up Against The Gap but in theory as I start to pull it's if you're going to put too much force into the into the motor shaft this

[00:16:06]   is the way to do it and again rotating these props really does a number on that laser Weld and so let me act before I mean I was just to brute force it straight off just grab

[00:16:21]   the propeller I do like a little Ninja Turtles thing and then here's an important bit don't put your f finger into the into the hole with the motor leads you'll break the motor leads off

[00:16:34]   go in the in the other go in the other holes I don't know how else to say it [@$#%] you go in these and Ninja Turtles that and then Ninja Turtle the prop and try to pull it

[00:16:51]   straight off that's on there pretty good I was in a hurry and I just mashed these propellers on I didn't I didn't feel like I was I had to push them on too hard

[00:17:05]   but maybe I did once you push a propeller on too hard like you're you're in it there there's not especially if you can't get a prop popper in there ah there we go okay so I just I was able to just brute

[00:17:21]   force that one off let me check the rest yep cool I just wasn't pulling hard enough again though oh boy this one is on there the the solution to all of this is a 1 1.47 mm

[00:17:43]   and99 millimeter drill bit if you use these on your tiny whooop props you will those drill bits are $5 on my website these motors are at least 10 bucks each sometimes you have to buy four of these

[00:17:57]   that's $40 it's a $40 mistake you could pay five bucks or 10 bucks for both or you can eventually pay $40 I guarantee you that you will ruin a tiny whoop motor by ramming a propeller onto it too

[00:18:11]   hard at some point and that's going to cost you at least $10 so just buy the the goddamn drill bits from me now start using them it doesn't take long to drill these props out you don't switch

[00:18:25]   Tiny props out all that often and save yourself time and money you'll never get the time back that it takes you to reorder and repair and you might lose the whole rig

[00:18:38]   you know if the motor shaft slips when you're on top of a building that you can't get access to that was a $100 mistake that didn't make much sense did it oh boy I will say this I have a

[00:18:54]   much harder time with the prop popper on the bigger Motors on the smaller Motors 0702 0802 102 this works pretty good all the way up on these like 1102s it's becomes a lot more difficult

[00:19:09]   but interestingly with the bigger motor with the bigger Motors it's easier to grip the motor with these three fingers so I can get more Force to pull these things off but again the

[00:19:25]   solution to this issue and the real solution to the issue is the prop manufacturers opening up the inner diameter a little bit the problem is the motor manufacturers are all over the place

[00:19:43]   with the the width of their motor shafts and so if the prop manufacturers open up the the inner diameter of the propeller holes there's going to be Motors that these props fit too Loosely on and the

[00:19:57]   prop fitting too loose is much more of a pain in the ass than the prop being too tight this is another kind of thing so the the .99 mm drip drill bit is like Kind of Perfect the

[00:20:13]   1.47 mil drill bit you're going to have depending on the specific motor that you run this could be a little bit too small but that's easy if it is too small so here's the here's what you do

[00:20:32]   you put it through the propeller and you twist it the first time you give it a little twist you run the propeller all the way down to the base you twist it and you pull the prop

[00:20:43]   back out it'll it should be pretty easy you'll be able to feel when you run different propellers down these you'll be able to feel the inner diameter of the prop if it if it's really tough

[00:20:55]   to get it going on there that's a smaller inner diameter like 1.44 1.43 if it goes on there pretty easy and you don't feel like you're taking hardly any material off it's like 1.45

[00:21:07]   146 and then you're going to test fit's on the motor if you have to push it really hard don't bury it pull it back off and then instead of spinning this thing you're just going to push the

[00:21:20]   propeller on and then you're going to pull it straight off without spinning it and you'll see like a little cloud white it takes more of the the material off when you just pull it straight out of there

[00:21:34]   and then what you might do is run it down again and that little process of pulling it straight out that removes a good amount of material if you do that like two or three times you'll notice

[00:21:46]   that it's fits better on the on the motor shaft you just have to do this you just have to do this a bunch of times and then and you'll kind of figure it out you'll you'll figure out you know

[00:21:59]   for the specific Motors that you're running and then the specific props that you like how many times you have to go on and off the drill bit to get it just right and then when you go

[00:22:10]   to pull the propellers off you'll get to see how hard that is and so it's kind of annoying but this process is way better than just ruining Motors over and over and over

[00:22:25]   again and again you will absolutely ruin some tiny whoop Motors from doing this because that laser weld between the motor shaft in the Bell is just not all that strong this is the cam this is

[00:22:43]   the aiio and canopy from the Mobula 704 I ruined the HappyModel 1102 10,000 KV Motors on this thing within one single taking propellers off putting propellers back on cycle I

[00:23:04]   got a bunch of hair in the props I removed the propellers they were incredibly difficult to remove these HQ 45mm triblade ultral lights the inner diameter is very small since this was a

[00:23:19]   bind and fly it came with the props installed on the motors so at the factory someone pushed these propellers onto these motors really hard and that fatigued the that connection

[00:23:34]   between the motor shaft and the bell and then in order for me to get these off I couldn't get the prop popper in there and then I couldn't brute force it off either so I had to twist the propeller

[00:23:48]   to get it to let go of the motor shaft and in the process of doing that it broke that laser weld on one of these motors and on the very next battery that I flew like a h halfway through the

[00:23:59]   battery it wouldn't take off anymore because the motor shaft was spinning on the Bell so this is really really important if you want to not have to replace $10 Motors or in some cases buy

[00:24:12]   a whole new set of motors for $40 SE fpb.cc with a link to the Etsy store that has the 1.47 mm and99 mm drill bits also have these things I I just have to get the listing up this is called a pin Vie

[00:24:32]   you can certainly just buy your own but I have a bunch of pin visic that I'm going to be putting up on the Etsy store hopefully in the next day or so so that you can have this awesome little

[00:24:43]   tool sitting on your desk that gives you something to hold on to and then you run the props on one side or the other super super nice to have so there you go there's a nice rant

[00:24:55]   about motor shafts how are your shafts feeling chat I don't understand what's going with this computer I hit I hit things on the on the stream deck and it just like top to bottom on this computer all of a

[00:25:14]   sudden when when audio needs to play it there's this huge gap like if I hit play on Spotify I get nothing for a couple of seconds and then the audio just like just jumps in and it and it

[00:25:27]   does it all over that let's try this again it always works the second time it's like it has to RAM it's like the it's as if the ram has slowed down or so I don't know computers are the goddamn

[00:25:48]   worst I I it just it makes me want to jump off a building I did another pyro drone order because I forgot to get these hurricane GemFan hurricane 2009

[00:26:02]   by3 Tri blades that I thought were going to be the propeller for the 2in Mobula 7/ mobula 8 now 04 this is there is no such thing as a mobula 804 there's just the Mobula 704 but I

[00:26:23]   frame and motor swapped it and I just happened to frame and motor swap it into the same frame and Motors that HappyModel builds their previous generation Mobula 8 with so this is basically a mobula

[00:26:38]   804 at this point but if you search for Mobula 804 you won't find it and so I specifically did this other pyro drone order to get these propellers so that I could test all four

[00:26:55]   of these 2in propellers that I thought would be a good match for tiny whoops and they are all four of them are decent but there are two that really perform better than the others in

[00:27:12]   this configuration we're going to kind of talk about that because these are fairly big beefy Motors and this is a fairly big beefy frame if you were if you were able to find a lighter weight

[00:27:28]   2inch whoop frame and run smaller Motors like 102s 1102s the situation might change but this is a pretty damn good setup here if you're going to do a 2in 04 build but you're going to take a look at my

[00:27:44]   mailbag first so th this is the main thing that I got in this order GemFan hurricane 2009 x3s I also grabbed another of my favorite 65mm tiny whoop frames which is the Newbie drone

[00:27:57]   cockroach V3 this is the this is the Jade white color they have three colors for this Frame black white and Jade white Jade white is just the the semi-opaque

[00:28:13]   see-through color in case you were wondering the white is like fully opaque bright white Jade white is like this transparent and then Black is Black so I snagged another one of these

[00:28:30]    Pyon has my favorite cop batteries and I had one of them fail on me so I snagged two of them these are tattoo rline 4S 1050s good runtime but they're also nice and lightweight I really like the

[00:28:49]   way that cine whoops fly on 4S 850s but dragging around a GoPro Hero 12 and it's just it's pretty hard on that 4S 850 I really like the way it flies on that but it's just I'm asking a

[00:29:07]   little bit too much and the run time is not all that great so I got three radio Master xr1 receivers because now that I have Nomad it makes sense to start getting dualband receivers

[00:29:28]   these are pretty cool this is fairly this is a fairly new receiver and I absolutely love what they've done here they made the antenna dual band right on the end so you don't

[00:29:40]   have to like try to find a spot for two or even four antennas in your builds you can Pro I should be able to run this on the the normal mounts that I use that just kind of grab the ears of the

[00:29:56]   900 megahertz length antennas not the ears the the sticks the antenna bit I don't know it'll fit in most antenna mounts how about that get back in there you dirty rat

[00:30:09]   bastard and then the little actual receiver pdb is like Crossfire Nano sized so these should be super easy to put in your builds if you're going to go

[00:30:23]   Nomad so this is pretty exciting I'm loving that these exist I I I have one of the diversity 20x20 receivers that radio Master sells and I'll put that

[00:30:38]   on something but I like these a lot this will be way easier to package and just like hide away and not have it be a pain in the ass this is a clear Mobula 6

[00:30:53]   2024 canopy I'm going to try these with the fxt cameras I have one of these in the Smoke color I don't know we'll see and then last but not least this is kind of interesting I actually had one of these

[00:31:12]   a long time ago and I think I sold it or gave it away this is a menace RC Bandicoot 5.8 linear patch antenna it has no polarization what whatsoever and that's kind of cool this should

[00:31:33]   be the best patch antenna to run with tiny whoops because tiny whoops typically are on whip antennas the modified whip antennas or the ort microv vs and all three of those antennas are

[00:31:52]   linear they don't have any polarization and so this should be the best possible tiny whoop antenna I don't really think it matters because you're flying tiny whoop so close to

[00:32:03]   yourself but I I was not I did not have enough stuff in my cart to get free shipping and I added this and then I got the free shipping which basically covered the cost of this I don't like

[00:32:18]   that it's blue but whatever function over formyou should definitely always always go for function over form even when it doesn't matter because you're just

[00:32:35]   flying around the house some foam and a sticker there you guys go that's what I got for you today oh my God also a mystery box showed up I have absolutely so this came from Franklin Park

[00:33:03]   Illinois shipping Department I have no idea what the deal is with this box but it has four MEPS King 1103 11,000 KV Motors that are unfortunately direct

[00:33:26]   solder it's got a hglrc Zeus Nano VTX a set of geman hurricane 2015 by blades in Gray a BetaFPV meteor 85 frame a BetaFPV micro Light canopy elrs BetaFPV elrs flat antenna

[00:34:05]   receiver the one that had all the the the issues with range an ant Nano camera analog camera and a MPS SZ f411 AIO 1S 15 amp this is like a full build

[00:34:28]   but it's kind of a it's a direct solder motor build which on Tiny whoops is super annoying because a lot of times the the the motors themselves won't fit through the holes

[00:34:43]   in the frame and so you have to like you have to build it with the frame with the motors threaded through the frame and it's just in it's just infuriating to kind of do it that way

[00:35:02]   I I have no idea what this is I have no idea who sent this to me there's no there's no info whatsoever it's feels like somebody sent this to

[00:35:13]   me expecting me to do this for them as a build this would be like probably a two or three hour build because of the madness of direct soldering these little Motors while they're threaded through

[00:35:27]   the frame and that's going to cost somebody like $160 to $240 in labor which is absolutely insane this is why I don't really offer to do builds for people because you end up paying like

[00:35:42]   $500 all said and done for a tiny whoop which is absolutely ridiculous so I don't know what I don't know what this is I I don't know who sent this to me this this aiio is

[00:35:56]   also a plug bug based aiio so these motors won't really these motors are not a good match for it so if you sent me this please message me and let me know why you sent this to me because I certainly did

[00:36:12]   not agree to do this build for anyone if I had I would have had a conversation with you about Parts other than these because this is a strange assortment of Parts here

[00:36:31]    mpsk King did email me a while back about reviewing one of their one of their bining flies and since they've changed their all of their policies that were super shitty from last year and the year

[00:36:47]   before I said yes but I certainly did not say yes to a two to thre hour build using a whole bunch of not their parts so I don't I I have no idea what the deal is here I'm just going to

[00:37:03]   leave this in the Box until someone contacts me about what on Earth this is so I'm a little I'm admittedly a little bit confused by this so if this was you please get in

[00:37:23]   touch with me please do okay all right so I'm just going to put this like over here somewhere I guess I I'm I don't know I don't know what the deal is with that that was I'm

[00:37:41]   I'm super confused by that I'm most confused by the selection of parts that are in there I'm like there's a really weird part setup in this that like I did not I mean it's not a bad parts

[00:37:59]   setup though I mean like they're 1102 like the motors are are pretty close it's they're direct solder which is a nightmare and that AIO does doesn't seem to really have any

[00:38:13]   pads for direct solder that I could see although I wasn't I actually didn't look on the bottom I just saw the I just saw the the plug headers I sorry I didn't look on the top I just

[00:38:29]   saw the plug headers and was like now there there are no motor pads to solder to I mean there there are the tiny little through holes but you can't really solder to those they're

[00:38:47]   they're infinitely small so this is this is this is interesting sorry they're 1103 Motors they're 1103 11,000 KV Motors so it's and 2in props and stuff so it's a

[00:39:03]   super interesting combo but it's is it's also analog which is which is kind of weird a 2in rig in my opinion is really for carrying the HD systems if you're going to do an analog outdoor 2S tiny

[00:39:21]   whoop it might as well be a 75mm rig they have all the power to weight ratio that you'll ever need so let me know if if that was you that sent it to me and let me

[00:39:32]   know why bad says props for props to the great thumbnail thank you dude ESP spander says gang the gang hi CiottiFPV four little pigs says morning neon says hi mate continue my investigations

[00:39:43]   on 04 Jello noticed a big reduction by switching from 2023 s to 2015 parenthesis more balanced props typically filtering seems to play a big role too properly balanced

[00:39:58]   propellers will always have the biggest impact on Jello specifically also almost as important are well-balanced Motors these tiny little Motors are very hard to get the balancing mud on to

[00:40:19]   dynamically balance them at the factory and so there are tiny whoop Motors that are significantly well balanced than than others and there is no data on that whatsoever so you just have to

[00:40:34]   buy a bunch of different Motors and just kind of try them out if you get to that point but propellers are the best place to start with Jello fresh set of propellers and then just different

[00:40:45]   propellers from different manufacturers that is the very first thing and that and that should be like where 80% of your effort goes if you're dealing with a Jello issue

[00:40:57]   um filtering Jello is caused by physical vibration and so if you have too much filtering it could be causing delay in the pit Loop that can that can cause some oscillations usually those

[00:41:18]   oscillations are too slow to really show up as Jello the easy way to kind of look at that is to just take the master multip lier and move it down a bunch because the only way that you're going

[00:41:32]   to have these oscillations not the only way but like the main way that your pit Loop is going to be causing these oscillations is if it's an over if your pit Loop is overactive I guess even better than

[00:41:45]   that would be instead of pulling the master multiplier down pull the P gain slider down quick oscillations are caused by too much P gain and not enough D gain

[00:41:58]   and so if you either push the Dain slider up or pull the P Andi gain slider down that is going to effectively add a bunch more damping and damping is what chills out those those fast op

[00:42:12]   oscillations so because if you're pull if if you just pull the master multiplier down that could if it if it if it doesn't have enough Dain and it's oscillating fast all the master

[00:42:25]   multiplier coming down is going to do is make the oscillations happen slower usually that will take care of jello cuz Jello is caused by faster oscillations but now that I really think about it an

[00:42:38]   even better way of taking the filtering and the pit Loop out of the equation as to where the hell the jell is coming from is going to be to push the Dain slider if you have any headro

[00:42:50]   in the tune or back off the second slider the P Andi gain slider and so if you take that P Andi slider and you move it from like 1.0 down to8 that should kill any PID related

[00:43:06]   vibrations and totally rule out filtering or any of that jazz I think I saw Brandon's baked beans in the chat do you agree Brandon one of the things that I hear from people that helps Jello is going

[00:43:23]   from 48k to 96 what's happening there is 96k has so much less motor breaking that any fast oscillations that were there from an overtuned pit Loop go away because you've taken away so much

[00:43:44]   of the ability for these motors to slow down and so you've effectively made the tune a lot worse you've you've kind of taken that M Master multiplier and moved it down a bunch by going from 48k to

[00:43:57]   96 it's going to give you a rig that flies much worse because the lack of motor breaking sucks and so I really don't recommend that that that's putting like a weird Band-Aid like next

[00:44:10]   to the head wound and being like see it's St like like if the head wound is like this you put the Band-Aid like like there and you're like see it's bleeding less like no no no no put put

[00:44:23]   the Band-Aid Center the Band-Aid on the head wound higgy 47 says y I got out of the hobby a year or so ago had the DJI V2 goggles which do you recommend now you have to match up the goggles with

[00:44:45]   whatever the video system that you're going to go with so if you're going to go with the' 04 system you got to get the goggles 3 or the goggles 2 if you're going to go with an 03 air

[00:44:56]   unit you can go with the your existing V2 goggles or the goggles 2 probably or the goggles three as well if you go WalkSnail you got to get WalkSnail goggles if you go HD

[00:45:12]   zero you got to get HD zero goggles so you you it's you got to match the goggles with the the VTX and the video system that you go with eat your veg says yoyo CiottiFPV and peeps

[00:45:27]   Craig says howdy gangly gang yanic says happy Sunday Funday what would the Ultimate Freestyle 2in 2S tiny whoop look is that remains to be seen is is is my reply to that the only 2S tiny whoop

[00:45:45]   combination of parts that I've ever flown is this right here it's pretty goddamn good though but there's way way way more testing to be done want to test the the hglrc frame I

[00:46:02]   want to test smaller Motors these 113s are this is a big motor look at this right so there's a super handy little Stater volume calculator here's the here's the link to this in the chat

[00:46:20]    and so if we go 0702 0802 these are the most common motor sizes right so 0702 for 65mm 1S analog and digital tiny whoops 0802 for 75mm rigs either 1S or 2S with

[00:46:46]   analog 102 for 75mm 2S digital rigs or 1102s they run really well as well and then on this 2-in build I've got 113s so one of the really easy ways to look at and compare motor

[00:47:11]   sizes as you go up right like so we know that a 65mm 1S tiny whoop lightweight tiny whooop 07 02s are perfect there's like three people that prefer 802s

[00:47:27]    702 is the way to go so we know that 702 is perfect for 65 for 75 we're kind of split between 802 102 and 1102 so what you can do here the the you've got surface and you've got volume you can

[00:47:43]   look at the jumps between these so let's just focus on the volume right so from 65 to 75 the jump is from 77 to 101 right you take another jump from analog 75 up to digital 75 and the jump

[00:48:02]   is from 101 to 157 call it 160 at the most 190 look at this look how big this jump is up to 2 in 1103 is a big ass motor we've got like a 80 we've got like a 20 to 30 millimeter jump in

[00:48:25]   volume here we've got a this is a pretty big jump up to 1102 up to a 90 mm jump here from 802 to 1102 or 102 and then we've got a 100 MIM jump all the way up to

[00:48:42]   1103 1103 is a great motor size right so we talk a lot about the ratio of width to height with Stater with Staters and you for freestyle you want to be 3 to one for C whoops you want to be

[00:49:00]   four or five or six to one and so on 11:03 3 6912 so a little bit less than a little bit less than 4:1 right like I think it's like 3.6 to1 is the ratio of width to height on an 1103 that's awesome that

[00:49:23]   is a great ratio of width to height that's a motor that you can freestyle hard and it's not going to overheat and it's going to give you very consistent performance very good runtime

[00:49:36]   and these motors are are this is them they they have all of those attributes these these HappyModel 1103 11000 are awesome and they very well may be the best motors for a 2-in tiny whoop but

[00:49:52]   they are a big motor this is a big heavy motor that's a big jump in here's another way that you can you can here's a better way to actually look at this come to think of it right here's a

[00:50:06]   better way 0702 awesome for 1.2 in props 0802 and 102 awesome for 40 mm 1.6 in props 1102 awesome for 45 mm props 1103 2in props right and so I i' I've definitely noticed that 102s on the

[00:50:31]   45mm props are not quite as good as 1102 so that's a nice that's a much nicer way to kind of Step this up each each little chunk here make sense and so

[00:50:48]    here's the other thing we've got and here's my little segue into the the main subject of the live stream tonight the propeller options for these 2in tiny whoops are very

[00:51:04]   split GemFan has hurricane 20820 2.0 in 08 Ines of pitch 08 pitch is pretty low pitch and these are by blades and then they've also got 2009 2.0 in9 inches of pitch Tri

[00:51:30]   blades these are very lightweight very low pitch 2in props these are just like in terms of their weight their construction these are very similar to all of the propellers that we run on

[00:51:49]   other tiny whoops the the HQ ultralight 45s the 40s the the GemFan 1610s the GemFan 1219 s's the 1210s the the HQ ultralight 1.2 in props right on 65mm motor to motor and 75mm motor to

[00:52:13]   motor tiny whoops all of the propeller options that we've got are super lightweight and fairly low pitch and that's what these guys are this is not a lightweight

[00:52:27]   super high RPM build this is a big fat chunky frame and these are big old chunky Motors and I had really high hopes for both both of these propellers but neither one of them has enough

[00:52:43]   pitch and they just don't suit this build if if we can get a lighter weight frame and maybe drop down to like an 1102 propeller that's where these lighter weight 2in

[00:53:00]   props are going to shine this current setup is not that and on this setup these two other GemFan props which are more of an OP these aren't these are much less none of these

[00:53:15]   are tiny whoop props tiny whoop specific props but these are much less of a tiny whoop prop than these are the reason that I say that none of these are tiny whoop

[00:53:27]   props is because a tiny whoop prop is designed to run around a duct and so what they do is they flatten out also called bullnose the tip of the propeller an on an open prop build they

[00:53:49]   don't do that they they shape the outside tip of the propeller much more like this so that it will mix the high and low pressure zones on the top and the bottom of the propeller

[00:54:04]   much more cleanly and so all of these 2in props are optimized for open prop frames right just like a regular frame with an arm and no guard around it that's not the end of the world

[00:54:22]   but these heavier props the the ends of the propellers are rounded off even more and when I noticed that I was like I really hope that these lighter weight propellers are going to work but it

[00:54:34]   it doesn't like I said it's not the end of the world these two propellers these are the GemFan 125 I'm sorry 205 20 2.0 in 1.5 in of pitch and then by blades and then

[00:54:55]   these Tri blades are geman 2023 s Tri blades more pitchy and more blades on this exact setup these 2015s it's actually goes in order of pitch the 208s are the

[00:55:18]   worst the 2009's are a little bit better the 2015s are significantly better and then the 2023 s's are the best I think a big part of that reason is that these 113s are a big powerful

[00:55:39]   beefy ass motor and if you mix a beefy powerful grunty motor with a propeller that is a little bit too low of a pitch or a byblade versus a triblade if the motor doesn't have

[00:55:57]   enough KV the lower pitch prop won't feel nearly as good this if if this motor was like 15,000 KV instead of 11,000 KV I think that these 2015s would really shine but at 11,000 KV 10

[00:56:18]   1103 these 20203 s's absolutely blast like and the the motor is grunty enough to be able to speed speed them up and slow them down quick enough where the response time is great the thrust is

[00:56:33]   great too too much torque from a motor too much Stater volume with not enough RPM gives you a very weird kind of flight experience it's can it can spin Up and Slow the

[00:56:55]   propeller down very quickly so the response time is there but it doesn't make enough thrust so it's a it's a very interesting flight experience where it's has this

[00:57:10]   instantaneous hit of movement but then it doesn't have enough thrust to really keep pushing and so when you do a really fast stick movement you'll get a beautiful like mind reading initial

[00:57:27]   reaction but then it's almost kind of can't keep up with the the the rotation that you're asking from it at full deflection at full stick when you're in the plastic and it's weird it can

[00:57:42]   almost cause like a weird bounceback effect because it's super interesting it's nowhere near as bad as too small of a motor on too big of a propeller if the

[00:57:59]   propeller is too heavy or too pitchy and the motor is too small the react the the response time suffers and when you make a quick stick input it slowly attacks and it doesn't have that like super

[00:58:13]   locked in like mind reading feel it feels lazy and that causes all kinds of issues and so that situation is way worse that situation In fairness is more efficient you've got the lightest

[00:58:27]   possible motor on there so that's what like the long range guys will do a lot of the time they'll run a motor that's a little bit too small for the propeller this is why DJI rigs fly the way that

[00:58:37]   they do it's why they get such crazy run one of the reasons they get such crazy runtime but it's why they sit down into prop wash and they can't handle the prop wash and stuff right

[00:58:48]    and so that's the flight experience with these motors on these super low pitch props 2008 2009 I'm hoping that with the hglrc frame which I'm going to try on here whenever I can either find

[00:59:05]   the one that I know that I have in this house or break down and order one I'm hoping that frame is going to be significantly lighter than this HappyModel frame and at that point I'm

[00:59:15]   going to try out a smaller motor I already have I have another one of these hglrc frames with an RC and power 103 motor this this is 1103 this is 10:3 we'll see we'll see how this is I I I

[00:59:33]   don't think these motors are going to suit this Frame I feel like these 113s are the perfect motor for the weight of this Frame but this will be the first kind of data point that I get in terms

[00:59:44]   of on a 2in rig 1103 versus 103 I also want to try some 1102s but I'm only going to try the 1102s on a lighter weight frame that this this HappyModel 2in frame is is Beefy as

[01:00:00]   [@$#%] like overly heavy I think and so more testing is needed to have any idea of what the best not that there really is best right there's just different some I'm

[01:00:18]   somebody that flies pretty aggressive freestyle and so for me and I demand a lot of durability and I crash a lot and so for me this might be the perfect build if

[01:00:30]   you don't crash as much if you value runtime more over flight characteristics there's a whole there's a number of different things that might make this not the perfect build for you or you or

[01:00:40]   you or you or you or you or you one of the big things that I try to do and one of the reasons that I'm so hardcore about staying long long form content on this YouTube channel is is

[01:00:56]   that there legitimately is no best there is just different and I prefer not to just [@$#%] videos out that say like every single new binden fly is the best thing on earth and you need to buy

[01:01:12]   it right now I want to have these discussions and to educate all of you so that you can figure out what the perfect build is for you I absolutely will work one-on-one with you through my five

[01:01:26]   or just contact me and we'll schedule it and I will walk you down a path and ask you a whole bunch of questions and I can come pretty damn close to suggesting the perfect rig for how you fly where

[01:01:38]   you fly what you do with your footage what kind of runtime you want right all these things who your favorite pilot is which tells me like how you want to fly how long you've been

[01:01:52]   flying but in these live streams i t try to talk about the advantages of this that and the other and show you guys as much flight footage as I can of one setup versus another setup so that you

[01:02:03]   can see like okay that's that's the response time that I'm looking for that's the the locked in sort of look that I want for my footage so there's that good question

[01:02:17]   dude but lots I need to do lots more testing to be even remotely comfortable saying like what an Ultimate Freestyle 2in 2S tiny would be all that being said though

[01:02:30]   again oh Canon you rat bastard you all that being said this this Mobula 804 that I've kind of built here is damn good and I think anybody like I've been doing this long enough where I can

[01:02:50]   usually get pretty close on the first try I think most people would be super happy with the way this thing flies it's really really good I just I have a funny feeling that it's a little

[01:03:04]   too heavy I I have a funny feeling that we could get the weight down a little bit when I try to shoot the gaps in the bushes with this it's significantly more difficult than the 1.6 in 75 M

[01:03:16]   motor to motor setup if you live somewhere that's super windy or you're planning on flying in the wind I I I can almost guarantee you this is going to be the way to go it's heavier it's

[01:03:28]   got more thrust and those are two things that really help when flying in the wind if you're not in Chicago the the 1.6 in 75 M motor to motor setup and if you want to shoot tiny

[01:03:44]   little gaps and have something that you can even fly inside this is outrageously good I'm looking forward to putting more batteries through that I was I was I was going to put a bunch of

[01:03:55]   matters through it today but it just time got away for me Dino FPV says DJI 04 light had a very light crash today in my 2S Mobula 8 build it bent the 04 board and killed it

[01:04:09]   must have cracked one of the silicone chips on the bottom so be careful of any Flex how do you have a 2S Mobula 8 build typically what kills the 04 lights is a canopy a essentially improperly

[01:04:30]   designed canopies I have crashed the ever loving [@$#%] out of this Mobula 704 with the HappyModel canopy and everything is fine I have hundreds already of crashes in this when

[01:04:49]   it was on the other frame and it's completely fine probably because this canopy design keeps the keeps the the supports for the canopy here very far away from the the 04 light board the

[01:05:10]   canopy is also kind of lightweight so it's a little bit sort of movable but that's super important I think a lot of people are breaking 04 04 vtx's because they're putting

[01:05:26]   TPU canopies on them and TPU is just really really really soft and so then you've got the camera slamming down into the VTX and that'll break anything this is a problem that tiny

[01:05:39]   whoop Racers have with the AOS the the cameras slam down into the AIO and blow the AIO up that's a super common thing so it's really important that you run a canopy that's strong enough to

[01:05:51]   keep the camera from smashing into the aiio the VTX also I think it's important to run screws that are long enough because that the longer the screws that you run here the more solid the like the pillars

[01:06:10]   are to support the VTX and the AIO in the next day or two on my Etsy store I will have m1.2 by4 screws the this Mobula 7 canopy comes with m1.2 by12 screws which are just barely long enough but the m1.2

[01:06:37]   by14 screws are going to be better because they're going to go so that on the frame you've got that plastic that plastic post right and so if you only run the screw a little bit into that

[01:06:48]   plastic post it's going to be able to bend that whole plastic post the M12 by 14s they go all the way down and I think they push into that bottom so the the frame will have like a flat plastic

[01:07:01]   piece and then the tube is on top I think the m12x 14s are going into that bottom piece because when you screw them down you get them kind of buried and it becomes way harder to tighten it

[01:07:13]   at the very bottom and I and it's a it's like a self tapping style screw with the real fine point and so I think that fine point is driving itself self into that nice solid bottom piece

[01:07:28]   because when I when I go to move this around like it is super solid there's a little bit of movement I guess but like this is very very solid here of course it's not going to focus because

[01:07:45]   there's only like 7,000 things for it to focus there you go there's of course a little bit of movement because we're we're screwing into plastic but not much see what I'm saying and I'm pushing

[01:07:57]   pretty hard like that's me really pushing on it some of the movement you see you're seeing is actually the frame the the the ducts flexing so this is important you don't want this to

[01:08:08]   be flopping all over the place this is the Mobula 7 V3 frame and again I've got those screws going all the way down into that plastic post in there to make that

[01:08:23]   structure as solid as possible I've not broken one of these 04s yet and I said I've crashed them a lot maybe they'll break the next time I fly I don't know but this is you know

[01:08:38]   this is something that I kind of figured out when the WalkSnail lights started breaking I looked at like Unfortunately they they would just die like at random seemingly they

[01:08:51]   weren't really dying in crashes but I did take a bunch of time to like look at how it's mounted and be like well how I mean I'm going to do whatever I possibly can to make this not happen and

[01:09:04]   unfortunately nothing seems to help so I don't know take that with a great assault I guess Craig says spaces in the right spaces Craig also says how about a really thin flat blade screwdriver to

[01:09:20]   pry off carefully the propeller which is on too close I've never found a screwdriver the the forks on this clone popper are like as thin as you can go before it becomes too

[01:09:39]    too thin and you end up bending or breaking the metal also when you're trying to get these props off the guards are in the way and so it's hard to get anything

[01:09:52]   in there but the the for on that clone popper are thinner than any thin blade screwdriver that I have even like Precision weha screwdrivers that are flat blades the the Clone popper is the forks

[01:10:11]   are very skinny I've tried so many different ways to get props off and over the years and the Clone popper is absolutely the best the the forks are just right I've thought about sharpening the ends

[01:10:27]   of the forks but again the I think that it would work once and then it would just bend it or break it they're already kind of just right I think Yanik says that's what she said prop

[01:10:45]   conversation always e your veg says PayPal dude I made a quick video for you to link in the email it shows the conical Dremel bit for modifying cockroach frames

[01:10:57]   nice Carolyn Barnett sent $122 thank you so much saysfor thefrom the UK Aaron please watch this quick video I made let's see quick little link to it in

[01:11:16]   here thank you dude that link now there's a space here points of measure no that ain't it that ain't it let's take that all the way out no oh wait what am I doing I'm putting

[01:11:40]   it in here put it directly in the URL bar oh nope it's wanting to search for it what do I need to search for on YouTube to find that to find that video eat your veg thank you very much

[01:11:56]   dude super kind of you to support the madness C fpv.one thing I rely on you beautiful bastards to keep this going and lots of ways that you can get spend a couple of dollars and get lots of like

[01:12:15]   really really really good info patreon is the best way that you can support me and you get the most in return but there's also a ton of affiliate links use someone's affiliate links when you

[01:12:24]   do if they're not mine someone else's it's totally cool best way to support people for free Craig says I push on props using a small Phillips screwdriver in the prop hole to avoid overseeding the prop it

[01:12:42]   stops when the tip of the Phillips hits the motor shaft which is just enough So when you buy a clone popper Jesse includes two little plastic things that look like this for

[01:12:59]   doing exactly that and you can slide them on the bottom of the propeller and then you push your propeller down and it makes sure that the prop doesn't go all the way down against the motorb Bell

[01:13:11]   I don't use them because I specifically want the propeller to push I want the Hub of the propeller to push all the way down against the motor Bell so that when that propeller side loads that the motor

[01:13:24]   shaft doesn't have to take all of the energy some of the energy is is being taken up by the The Hub of the prop pushing against the the motor Bell and I know that it works

[01:13:38]   because after a whole bunch of crashes the prop will have slid up a little bit so I know that the motor shaft is flexing a little bit and that's allowing the prop to just bump up bump

[01:13:52]   up bump up bump up bump up bump up just fraction of a millimeter at a time and so there's that what's up little boo oh my God you're returning my hot glue gun thank you I think that's

[01:14:05]   the first time that either of you kids have ever given me something back the guy says with his dad's Precision tipped Lindstrom Sweden pliers to the right

[01:14:26]   desk I get it now I'm sorry Dad I'm sorry I got a [@$#%] bunch of my dad's tools I not that many but hold on I got a [@$#%] bunch of my dad's Tools in here it's fun to buy tools

[01:14:45]   though at this point like my dad offers to send me some of his tools and I'm just like no man I want to buy something shiny and fancy buying like a fancy shiny tool like I don't like

[01:15:00]   working on these [@$#%] things but like if I've just bought like a nice tool it's takes the sting off a little bit and it's like well at least I get to use these $40 MIP drivers

[01:15:14]   Jesus there's got it how can I not I'm sure there's I'm actually pretty proud of myself I don't I don't think I have that many they're probably all out in the garage I know I have more than just this

[01:15:32]   one this is the best one though man this is the these are I do not regret stealing these from my father Lindstrom 7890 7890 these are unbelievably good Lind

[01:16:02]   strum 7890 let's see oh my God oh my God man I hope he stole these from work because [@$#%] I feel bad now oh my God boy are these nice I will I will absolutely say that for

[01:16:35]   $47 is is pretty nuts but man are these nice these are what I use to get the C Clips off I mean these are what I use for any kind of precision work but these are specifically what I use

[01:16:52]   for getting the C Clips off these Jaws are like strong as hell they're expensive because this metal is strong as hell I've never had needlenose pliers like these that are are this

[01:17:13]    thin at the tip that don't just bend all up the first time you put any amount of force into them so they're using they're using a nice metal they probably it's probably tool

[01:17:26]   steel high performance steel alloy they say but it's tough hardened 42 to 46 HRC so there you go if you want to spend 47 $48 on a pair of needle-nose pliers that's how to do

[01:17:46]   it Jesus Lindstrom and look how look how nice this Lindstrom stuff is look at that that nice white oh that is just delicious ooh that blue come on oo that yellow looks

[01:18:16]   terrible maybe not if you like yellow it's you're going to like it buy tools that are the color that you prefer they might suck but what I what I really dig are the the Weller

[01:18:40]   tools because they're in that Weller blue these are the the Flush Cutters that I have and they're I'm not going to say that they're any better than like the red the red and black

[01:18:54]   Flush Cutters that you can get for like $5 on Amazon but they're they're the Weller blue and I do not regret buying these instead of the $5 ones oh look they got okay they got a

[01:19:13]   bunch Weller's got a bunch of maybe these are good probably fine 30 bucks they better be look that guy's using them for a capacitor they must be

[01:19:28]   good moving on Uriel says those battery welders Can you spot weld the new axis they would be I don't know what that word is great cfpv I don't know anything about

[01:19:46]   making batteries so I don't know anything about battery welders it's too sketchy for me and batteries are too cheap for us to buy pre-made so I'm not the guy to ask about that

[01:19:57]   Brandon says have you done an analog to us yet I can't recall a bunch like two to three months ago I did a bunch of analog 2S rigs they are

[01:20:13]   unbelievable just like the most fun things to fly out in front of your house Mobula 7 V3 frame this one has t-motor 102 18,000 motor limited down like 80% GemFan

[01:20:36]   1610s X12 AIO will take 2S and it's doing a damn good job BT 3.0 going through the back of the frame here super slick whatever camera and canopy you want and then the the real magic

[01:20:55]   button are these little tiny whoop 2S 300mah BT 3.0 batteries crazy lightweight crazy power not too much power but just like unbelievable and then the other one that I have that I actually like even

[01:21:14]   better is the same builds but HappyModel tiny whoop hex 802 19,000 K Motors still motor limited down to 80% this one's even lighter weight and these motors make plenty of

[01:21:32]   power the the 102 rig you can feel that it's heavier it does make a little bit more power but you don't need it the this 802 build is just insane and it's like stupidly lightweight really

[01:21:46]   really really fun these are two of my favorite rigs right now going through the garden and [@$#%] they're so lightweight they just like carve in through the little tiny gaps these

[01:21:57]   these set the bar really high for all the rest of these 2S rigs but that's okay that makes me very picky about these 04 builds which is a good thing but 2S 75 analog is

[01:22:17]   phenomenal the only problem at the moment is those 2S 300mah tiny whoop batteries with the BT 3.0 lead have been sold out for a while telha

[01:22:28]   says do you change your rates Expo when you change from 75 to 2.5 5 in nope never ever ever ever change your rates throttle Expo absolutely throttle Expo has to change between every single

[01:22:44]   rig you even kind of need to change it every different location that you fly but your rates should never change between any of your rigs that is a that is a way of not having the

[01:23:00]   that is the best way to make it harder for yourself to get better at flying basically because when the rates change it's a massive adjustment period that you have to go through every single time

[01:23:14]   you fly one rig to the next rig to the next rig getting used to those rates Morton upshot says we hear mailbag audio okay so you don't have the weird Gap in the beginning of the audio let

[01:23:28]   let me try it again it it'll probably be fine this time but let me just see nope see for me when I push the mailbag button I get no audio the video starts and then it goes and then it even

[01:23:43]   went like and it and it hiccuped a bunch if you guys aren't getting that then I'm fine I don't care if I get the weird Gap but I don't want that weird Gap to go out in the live stream somebody tag me

[01:23:53]   again and tell me if you got that if you got the audio perfectly from the beginning of that mailbag thing by the way I stole that from Mighty Car Mods go subscribe to them here it's the best

[01:24:02]   car and off-roading and rotary channel in the whole wide world Craig says the Cockroach v3.1 frames do you get PP or PC plastic whichever one's lighter I think it's

[01:24:16]   PP I think I'm a fan of PPS rather than PCS whichever one doesn't give you the purple option I'm pretty sure it's PP it doesn't say on here but the the purple frame is the heavier

[01:24:36]   plastic what did I just step on ah a little stick okay den of the turble says paint it paint what the tiny whoop frame that paint would last one battery with how often I crash if you want to paint a

[01:24:57]   frame you dye it you can dye frames buy some Rit dye from the store take a pan that you hate boil some water dump the Rit dye in put the frame you can even you can even

[01:25:10]   dye propellers you just have to remember that dying things is an additive is an additive process so if you've got like something that's blue and then you dye it

[01:25:25]   red it's going to come out like brown not purple dying is different than like monitors it's not like a proper RGB experience so it's a little bit weird Denzel the turbo says

[01:25:40]    I I painted my micro V white bits orange to match looking good equals flying good very cool take a picture of that I want to see that that sounds cool branderson says I did a build with

[01:25:51]   t-motor 1103 11000 and all the issues yes but like you said big it up they can handle it and Roar on what kind of a build I didn't even know I haven't even really looked at at the at the 113s that

[01:26:08]   are available but they're probably aren't many with motor plugs and I'm trying to stay with motor plugs Bob noxious is in the house what's up homie if you guys are not subscribed to him

[01:26:19]   on Instagram and Facebook you're missing out he's an awesome dude going through an awesome Journey just kicking life's ass in the balls Peno fre how you been dude he says

[01:26:33]    can you or anyone else here confirm if the tiny whoop 450 M or 550 M 1S batteries fits in the air 75 frame yes they will both fit the 4 the 450 will definitely fit I

[01:26:51]   can almost guarantee you the 550 will fit as well but I know that the 450 will notice has why does no one make a 902 because the because we haven't demanded that they make it yet also

[01:27:10]   like it there's really nothing that that would be for the the jump from 802 to 102 is like completely fine 702 is a thing because 802 was a little bit too big for when the 65mm rigs got smaller

[01:27:30]    but the jump from 802 to 102 is not so drastic that we need something in between 903 would be better than 902 but I don't think we need that either Dave S says makes me wonder what a four

[01:27:46]   blade would do on it now four blades are too heavy and so the response time goes to hell and they're also very inefficient so a four blade on a tiny whoop is not a great idea two blades are

[01:28:02]   the best on Tiny whoops because the biggest problem with tiny whoops is that as propellers get smaller and smaller they get much less efficient and a by blade is the most efficient possible

[01:28:15]   propeller well a single blade is the most efficient but those are kind of a pain in the ass you got to put like some kind of a weight on the other side so that they're in balance and it's just a

[01:28:25]   nightmare so by blades are the kings of efficiency and so with the smallest possible prop size the size of the propeller is the least efficient so for me I always want to try to go by blades

[01:28:39]   on Tiny whoops it's just a matter of is there a byblade available that's well balanced and pitchy enough to make enough power with the motors that we have available to us so quad

[01:28:53]   blades are not a good idea because they become very heavy which kills the response time and they're not efficient they're the least the more blades the less efficiency and so you've

[01:29:04]   got the least efficient number of blades on the least efficient propeller size there are a bunch of four blades available and they they all suck they they're they're

[01:29:15]   pretty it's kind of unbelievable how bad they are when when you run them there's there aren't any like brand new four blades available because the prop manufacturers have realized that

[01:29:28]   it's not the answer and so if you're going to compare a four blade you have to compare it to some of the older try and buy blades but even then it the the performance is just bad on them

[01:29:39]   they're they're just really rough the only possible reason to run a four blade on a tiny whoop is if you have a set of Motors that is way too low of a KV and you just you can't afford to change

[01:29:51]   the motors out but but you're going to spend like 10 bucks on a set of four blades just save 30 bucks more and then replace the motors with something better and you're going to get a much

[01:30:03]   better flight experience level one drone says what about the HQ d2x 1.9 by4 so we just talked about quad blades not being the answer but I would love to have some 2in HQ props in the mix here the problem

[01:30:24]   is none of the ones that are lightweight enough have a prop hole in the in the hub that's opened on the top these do but a quad blade is going to really hurt efficiency it looks like

[01:30:41]   these are nice and lightweight though which is which is kind of nice next order I do I'll probably snag a set of these just to see but a quad blade on a tiny whoop is is kind of

[01:30:52]   rough I do these are bull nose though that's kind of cool see I'll snag a set of these and try them but I I I've had so much experience with quad blades just

[01:31:04]   absolutely killing efficiency that I I I'm willing to bet these are not the answer they're the main problem with quad blades is they're just too heavy but the other problem is that the tips

[01:31:18]   of the propellers get even closer together the more blades and the tips of the propellers are where you get like a little tip Vortex and if the next propeller comes through into that

[01:31:29]   turbulent air that's what really hammers efficiency to hell so I don't know it for a fact but I try to stay away from quad blades Johnny cat says too much Stater volume like driving a diesel that's a

[01:31:45]   that's actually a really good analogy it's like driving a diesel that red lines at like 2,000 RPM you have like all this torque down low but then you don't have any of the any of the

[01:31:59]   high-speed fun Mah draw with a $5 Super Chat thank you brother he says thanks for the company while soldering off to race practice you guys have a nice day I hope I read this in time

[01:32:10]   for you to hear it if not thank you anyway brother and great YouTube name that's a really fun YouTube name one of the best I've seen in a while Johnny Cat we got that Brandon says

[01:32:20]   hglrc 85 mimer is 10.1 gram HappyModel is 11.3 ah man see that's not and then you're going to have Brent is that with or without oh plus rubber band see Rubber and rubber bands

[01:32:42]   are heavy so the hglrc frame really isn't going to be any lighter with the rubber band factored in than the HappyModel frame that's a shame 2in tiny whoops have been like not

[01:33:01]   popular at all and so there aren't many frame options and so they're behind like the the old the the 2 three foury old 65mm frames were junk they were heavy as hell and they weren't very durable

[01:33:18]   but lots of people fly 65mm tiny whoops and so the frames have had some good N D 75mm tiny whoops are less popular than 65 but they've been popular enough that some frames have come out that have

[01:33:34]   been decent not as good as the 65mm frames though 2in tiny whoops are another level of even less popularity and even less development and so the frames suck the the 2-in tiny whoop

[01:33:50]   frames are not great this this HappyModel frame it seems like is the second best apparently this Frame is fragile here where the guards meet the ducts I've not broken one yet but I've only been flying

[01:34:08]   2in tiny whoops for a couple of weeks now what I like about this Frame is that it's nice and solid I think it's too solid though I I I with the 65mm frames and in

[01:34:23]   particular they're wobbly as [@$#%] now but they're super lightweight and the they blackbox fine and they tune totally fine the I I think these 2in frames need to go through that same thing I

[01:34:39]   don't know if they will though because I don't know if a lot of people are going to build and buy 2in tiny whoops and so this might be about as good as it gets the hglrc frame is apparently more

[01:34:52]   durable than this with the rubber band it uses a rubber band to hold the batteries in which is super annoying in my opinion and I bet you with the rubber band weight added and it's going to weigh the

[01:35:06]   same as this so I don't think that 2in tiny whoops are going to be a good match with smaller Motors I have a feeling that these 103s or these HappyModel 1103

[01:35:24]   might be the right choice I wonder if YouTube will crash first or if Canon's Stupid software will crash first place your bets place your bets render says the all metal one

[01:35:40]   has even skinnier Forks I think do you have them both render because Patrick has the all metal prop popper and it and I've checked it out and I thought it was the ex it looked like the exact same thing

[01:35:58]   as the as the Clone popper here same mold or or same whatever do you have them both to compare them if the all metal one has skinnier Forks than the Clone poer I'll buy one of those all

[01:36:10]   metal ones I didn't buy it because after I checked Patrick's out I was like oh great they use the same Forks each veg says I'll post in Discord General I also became a patron today Carolina is

[01:36:22]   my M by the way mark thank you for the support over on patreon brother very cool of you whoever just did a wee bed order and use my affiliate link thank you very

[01:36:32]   much let me make sure that your I didn't see a patreon email come through let me make sure it's not sitting in in my spam folder boy I've had a hard time with my spam

[01:36:51]   folder oh man here's a here's a very specific God damn it I don't know what for the longest time macmail has done a really good job with not putting stuff in the junk

[01:37:11]   folder that didn't belong all of a sudden lately it's been a disaster I just found a personal email sent to me from a human being about an FPV event in

[01:37:28]   Europe sitting in this junk folder which is just the [@$#%] worst if you guys have been emailing look email is is one of the worst ways to get in touch with me if you email me and

[01:37:42]   you don't hear back from me this is why also because I get absolutely hammered in my email so cfp.net touch with me Instagram is the best Discord is probably the second best

[01:37:58]   Facebook Messenger don't use Facebook so there's that if you've emailed me and you haven't heard back I apologize but like I said it's the worst possible way to get in touch with

[01:38:19]   me I went through a bunch of these the other night and it looks it's actually not oh there was a Ukraine chick that wanted to hook up with me I'm sure that was

[01:38:33]   legit ah Royal Male Dispatch Center apparently I've got a an improper address I'm sure that's legit oh more Russian girls hold on oh no I don't want you

[01:38:57]   to I don't care about your web designing okay YouTube shopping affiliate program I'm glad that went to junk oh my God a $3 million donation is headed my way hold on guys let me just

[01:39:13]   send this Iranian Prince my info real quick all right well my junk folder is now fully cleared out I think it automatically dumps things after a while so if you haven't heard back from me

[01:39:30]   don't email me I am a couple days behind on my email though In fairness for the record so just just be patient it's tough to stay up on all of these different things always feel free to contact me

[01:39:51]   but never expect a respond within like if it's been more than a week feel free to like bug me somewhere else but there it is there it is there it is okay cool eat your veg thank

[01:40:07]   you for joining the patreon brother very cool of you boy I got a lot of emails today holy hell all right we're good Mah draw thank you again for the the Super Chat notice says let's talk

[01:40:25]   about tools for a bit I'm looking for a fine but strong Clipper of some kind for cleaning up TPU prints I used I use these Weller Flush Cutters that were like 15 bucks that we looked at before

[01:40:39]    they're not the best though there there's a set of red and black Flush Cutters that's literally like $5 that they'll fall apart but they're only $5 so it's kind of doesn't

[01:40:52]   matter I don't think that these are any better my experience with these Flush Cutters is that you end up using them to cut something that's too hard and you [@$#%] them up anyway so it doesn't make a

[01:41:05]   whole lot of sense here we go go ahead and crash Canon so I can restart you again I don't see the point in spending a lot of money in these unless you're you're going to be careful with

[01:41:16]   them and not you're not supposed to cut like is it copper I think there's there's a metal that [@$#%] up the the edges on these Flush Cutters and I'm not I'm not careful enough to not

[01:41:32]   just crank on these things and so I don't find it for me it's not a great idea to get like a $50 set of those because I'll just end up jacking them up zarad says what do you think is

[01:41:46]   the small size drone that could realistically use an 04 Pro exactly what I've been building 75mm motor to motor 1.6 in prop I see some no-name drones as small as 1.4 in 3s that's a

[01:41:59]   terrible idea but should I believe that's possible I'm at some point my BetaFPV order from January will get here and in that order is a is their new 1S Matrix

[01:42:16]   AIO and I will be building a 65 millimet 1S RC drift car chasing 04 build with no props in view I don't recommend that anyone else do that encoding overloaded wny is Colonel

[01:42:33]   task taking up 200% of the CPU why can't I do anything about this why can't I get info or anything God damn it running Spotlight Diagnostics what oh it's YouTube that's going to [@$#%]

[01:43:06]   the bed there there it is Google's using up 300% of the CPU oh my God I can't do that Diagnostics thing it's going to take 10,000 Days h

[01:43:24]   let me try something let me try something what if I do that will that make Colonel task go away nope Colonel stat still go Dam so it's YouTube that's about to [@$#%] to bed that's an interesting way to

[01:43:42]   to figure that out so YouTube's going to crash in a minute oh my God finished can the Diagnostics you rat bastard just give it a couple seconds YouTube will [@$#%] the bed and we'll be

[01:44:03]   back so I'm doing that rig specifically to chase these little RC drift cars it's going to destroy a bunch of my batteries I'm going to get shitty runtime on it

[01:44:16]   but the the little RC drift cars change directions pretty quick and the only way to stick with with them is to have something that's infinitely lightweight I don't recommend anybody

[01:44:27]   else do that build but I'm going to do it and there are a bunch of 1S 65mm 04 builds out there that folks like Nick Burns have been testing and they're a mess they don't fly very good

[01:44:43]   and the battery run time is awful and so we already kind of know that but it's 2S 1.6 in prop is the way to go for sure come on webcam utility please there we

[01:45:12]   go colonel colonel task is still banging away at 220% this is ridiculous come on YouTube crash you dick what if I just refresh this YouTube live streaming window will that help

[01:45:37]   usually it doesn't maybe it did this time nope doesn't help and now it won't restart YouTube crashed like all the way for me before when I was watching Bardwell stream and it wouldn't come back up it

[01:45:51]   was super strange oh boy everything is bad Boondock Striker says my uncle's a watch maker I took I took his real glass Loop a million times better than plastic Loops oh my God I can't imagine a real glass

[01:46:06]   Loop that would be delightful all right the stream is just going to suck now I guess the stream is going to suck until YouTube inevitably crashes so just give it a minute it's always does audio should

[01:46:22]   be fine and this is basically an audio stream Denzel the terrible says I'm an idiot because I avoid using my expensive MIP drivers because they're too nice I know exactly what you mean

[01:46:38]   brand Anderson says but not 85mm s right but I heard you 85 for the digital but an analog will let you thrash harder not fearing hurting the 04 vtx's I that was at

[01:46:50]   426 when you say but not 85mm right I don't I I I'm sure that I said something at 425 that that was in reference to but I don't know what that was so you got to give me more to go off of big whoop

[01:47:02]   says as you don't ship outside the US can you tell us where you get m1.2 by 12 screws eBay and don't get M12 by 12 get m1.2 by 14 and are they SL do they need to be self-tapping the only ones that you're

[01:47:19]   going to find are self-tapping Mort upshot says it's in syn here thank you for that yes sound was fine all right good so the so the mailbag is playing fine it's just for me it's a mess rock

[01:47:29]   crawler says I heard it from the start but it did glitch once in the middle that's annoying Stone FB says I got the hiccup Denzel the turbo says paint the blue patch antenna oh oh oh right

[01:47:40]   right right right right I could totally paint it I won't but I totally could can you please crash YouTube I know that you're going to crash just [@$#%] do it dude

[01:47:53]   oh my God [@$#%] ification is real Professor bi biohazard says have you tried the HQ ultr light 35mm by blades yep quite a bit bunch of live streams on those props they're great

[01:48:24]   they're some of my favorites Yanik says can you save an already bought 75 Pro frame for a 2S analog gig no the the 75 Pro will only hold 1S batteries maybe X12 plus 1102 22,000 in a 3D

[01:48:42]   printed battery holder you could do a 3D printed battery holder but then the batteries are going to hang down really low and it's going to hurt performance oh man this is a

[01:48:53]   this is really [@$#%] in the bed now there it goes okay no the the other problem with the 75 Pro frame is it's awful heavy the the Mobula 7 V3 frame is is is the way to

[01:49:11]   go Talha says what does your 04 light 75mm build way it is 20 gram lighter than the 2in build it's insane I forget what the actual number is I put a patreon post up about

[01:49:30]   it with 1610 propellers it's 33.8 gram and then the 2in rig with my new favorite propellers which are the 2023 s's I wish these motors were just a little bit higher KV because I really

[01:49:48]   want to make these geman 2015s work the by blades I just I also like the way that the by blades kind of fly better that's a high right this is a high left I got another

[01:50:01]   high left I need a high right there it is the Mobula 804 is 47.4 gam such a difference such a massive difference in weight between these two but luckily on the 2in rig these 1103

[01:50:22]   Motors make mad power and it flies really really good it's just for like real close in tight like Garden flying it feels big and it feels heavy and so I'm really

[01:50:42]   digging for me this is awesome for like going somewhere if I if I like go to downtown Atlanta and I want to fly around this is goingon to be awesome for that this will be fine for that

[01:50:53]    but this is more of like an indoor outdoor kind of setup this is outdoor only with the big ass props if I could only have one of these it would absolutely be the the 75

[01:51:06]   millimeter motor to motor 1.6 in prop rig but I'm super intrigued by this 2in rig almost so I was the the my plan was to pick between these two and just have

[01:51:28]   one but I'm so so curious about like taking this to downtown Atlanta and just diving every single building blasting all over the place that I I might buy a third 04

[01:51:45]   light air unit for the 65mm drift car chasing rig I really don't want to do that but man like this 1.6 in prop rig is just so good for for indoor outdoor around the garden front of the house

[01:52:06]   back of the house but then this is just so good for pushing into the wind it's a bit excessive but like I can kind of justify it if especially if I keep doing edits and

[01:52:23]   then you guys keep supporting the edits and joining my patreon and stuff Shameless plug is has there ever been a more Shameless plug but I don't know we'll we'll we'll see what I

[01:52:39]   might do what I totally could do is just like keep this Frame and motor and prop combo together unplug the motors pull the central canopy off and then I've got like this AIO camera canopy

[01:52:56]   that I can take and drop into whichever frame that I want that's something that I already do a lot like I have a bunch of frames with motors and props just ready to go and if there's a a

[01:53:10]   specific use for that setup I can pull the C unplug the motors pull the central stack off and just drop it between one frame and the next so that might be what I do the the problem

[01:53:24]   with doing that is this so this is the Mobula 704 BNF AO camera canopy setup it's XT30 I don't necessarily want to change it to

[01:53:38]   bt2.0 and it's like together and it's here the the 65mm 1S rig it has to use that specific AIO and so so it's like more work I mean I I guess it's not that bad because

[01:53:55]   the the VTX is on plugs so I could pretty easily just like unplug this but it's a different camera I don't know we'll see I don't know I am like the tiny whoop guy so it

[01:54:10]   that makes me feel a little bit better about having so many different builds but I I would I would rather have less builds than more I'll just say that Bean says I got

[01:54:23]   a set of Flush Cutters that are ruined and I use them to cut hard things that those are my my red and black ones are all out in the garage cuz they're all ruined and a nice one

[01:54:32]   that I won't cut steel with okay so it's steel good to know steel bran Anderson says I asked earlier if you built a 2S analog yet and I'm at 85 oh no and I probably won't the

[01:54:48]   only reason to go up to 85mm as far as I'm concerned concerned is to deal with the extra weight of a digital system an 885mm the the the 75mm 2S analog rigs the power to weight ratio is so good

[01:55:04]   that like you could fly those in 50 miles hour of wind and they'd be like I don't give a [@$#%] because they're also smaller and lighter and more aerodynamic right when we tack on eight or nine

[01:55:18]   grams of payload in a digital system now so here's here's the the full range right 65mm rigs too small definitely too small for the extra weight of a digital VTX camera setup

[01:55:35]   right 75 MIM rigs as small as you possibly want to go for the extra weight of HD stuff 2-in rigs easily carries the the digital the digital payload right 65mm rigs rip with analog

[01:55:57]   75mm 2S rigs with analog like plenty right no need to keep going make sense James Thomas says 3D printed battery holders are too heavy TPU is is just is it's just heavy it's

[01:56:14]   heavy stuff Badger it also drops the battery down lower than I want it I I like to have the battery tucked up as as tight as possible one of the reasons why tiny whoops fly the way they do is that

[01:56:26]   everything is centralized all the mass is right in the center so the yaw performance which is the hardest AIS is actually pretty decent on Tiny whoops if you start to spread the weight out on a

[01:56:38]   tiny whoop up down left right it's going to really affect the way that they fly and they're already sort of the worst flying rigs cuz the propellers are so small and the least efficient so

[01:56:51]    stuff like I I try to stay away from Badger FPV says don't buy now wait until they release the BNF and then you can review it they don't send the me at least they

[01:57:04]   don't send me the the' 04 on the BNF's the the maybe like the the big popular channels maybe they get the 04 light included but I I actually doubt it's just too much money you know

[01:57:20]   like G RC doesn't have enough money to buy 50 04 light air units and send them out to all the reviewers so that and luckily the 04 has the plug headers and so they just send they send

[01:57:34]   everything but the 04 BetaFPV and HappyModel at least do that I don't know if the other companies have money to spare but I really doubt it ah look at that orange micro V very

[01:57:48]   cool to match the Orange Motors awesome oh here's here's each your Veges here's each your Veges Dremel attachment specific little Dremel attachment so there's like the

[01:58:09]   drill bit the drill bit totally works and you can do it by hand but it creates all kinds of little pieces of plastic that you then have to go in there and get out I don't have a Dremel attachment

[01:58:20]   that's conical like this but if you do that's going to be awesome the the Dremel attachment is you could actually I could probably use any Dremel attachment because the the the Dremel is

[01:58:33]   going to put a bunch of heat into the plastic and so you could probably use like the drill bit to wallow it out and then just touch it with the Dremel to like melt those little tiny pieces of

[01:58:43]   plastic down or just use it to do the whole thing which which is what each your veg is doing here very cool very very cool awesome I dig it I'm going to try next next one that I do I'm going

[01:59:05]   to try that on because I'm sure I have a Dremel attachment somewhere that'll that'll kind of get in there and just create that heat it is

[01:59:20]   502 let's fly a couple of batteries and then shut this down it looks like the godamn camera softw has [@$#%] to bed again that's okay we will just use tiny whoop video for the remainder of the

[01:59:37]   live stream I'm going to fly the wandering whoop again because I'm trying to get enough decent flight footage from it to do a nice little edit with it and submit the the footage

[01:59:53]   to Jesse the wandering whoop is a cockroach V3 frame 0702 32,000 KV Motors the HQ 1.2 in .9 pitch Tri blades and then it's just a Mobula 6

[02:00:17]   2024 here we go friends oh there's the other 300 MH battery I left it in the I left it in the hoop and there's the camera shutting all the way off way to go Canon way to just

[02:00:30]   fail at everything boot Grace it says and apparently the goggle batteries is dead go goggle battery is dead not goggle batteries hang on a second hang

[02:00:50]   on just ever meet one of these people that like gives everyone the finger all the time what's that about if that's any of you I mean it's not the end of the world but like

[02:01:21]   you know what's the philosophy behind that do you just hate everyone or is it just one of those things that like you started doing and then you never thought about it and then

[02:01:36]   you just keep doing it all right here we go oh my God I had a funny rainbow question mark on the nope there we go now the memory card's memory

[02:01:56]   carding we're going to go straight upstairs what is what is happening here why is this like this oh God I just went right into it no no no no oh no oh yes we got it that shag carpet is

[02:02:15]   lava or shag rug is lava huzzah oh that was a good one no that was not wow I got that recovery in there though ehy oh God that was awkward oh God no

[02:02:44]   overcorrected where's the dog wait see see this dog's botched haircut I showed it the other night where is he I think he's in think he's in the bathroom or the

[02:03:11]   bedroom oh that was a hell of a recovery oh God I don't hit that lamp very often oh no oh no you no oh oh god oh I was trying to really like lay that out and let it hang inverted I got it

[02:03:54]   wrong a little bit bit of prop wash there that's okay for whatever reason I haven't been able to get this thing tuned as good as as my other

[02:04:11]   stuff could have could have something to do with the canopy I guess I'm used to the old school Mobula 6 canopy which is really stiff and it really does stiffen the frame up quite a bit

[02:04:29]   might have a couple power Loops in there that I can use that wasn't terrible 2 minutes and 30 batter's bouncing back up to probably 3.7 oh that was a hard hit that bent

[02:04:40]   this Els antenna down like a son of a [@$#%] this Mobula 6 banana hammock canopy is it's all right it holds the camera level which is really really nice something that the

[02:04:57]   that's a 260mah battery too by the way something that the the BetaFPV banana hammock canopy can't say but you do have to run a camera in it that has the holes in the corners

[02:05:10]   like the new fxt camera so you're you're way more limited in in camera selections so fiew says have you flown the new BetaFPV 75 Pro with 04 yet nope and I probably won't 1S 75 1S is not

[02:05:26]   enough for analog 75s let alone digital 75s I have about a thousand live streams trying to make WalkSnail light digital work on 1S 75mm Rigs and it's just not enough 1S is for 65 mil 2 s's for

[02:05:49]   75 mil the end oh no oh no I hit myself oh no I hit the ceiling this thing's got power I just grazed the symbol on that one no that was close I was probably like an millimeter away from the from

[02:06:17]   the mirror on that one okay let's just calm it down oh boy I said let me just calm it down and then I did like two of the biggest tricks in

[02:06:29]   here oh God that looks so cool ah I didn't give it enough enough of a throttle blip to get through that hanging Cube oh my God why does that look so good oh I got a good run going don't

[02:06:51]   [@$#%] it up don't overthink it no no why do I always do the dumbest why is it always the dumbest crashes what is happening here what what is

[02:07:10]   the what is this situation that I find myself in what how is this oh I bet you it's hanging from the I bet you it's hanging on the the micro antenna it sure is the micro

[02:07:33]   antenna can act like a little hook sometimes it's super funny cuz like the micro is it's got little that little hooker part and so sometimes it'll it'll it'll

[02:07:49]   hook sometimes it likes to hook somebody's asking for me to fly a race a newbie drone race battery after this gladly all right more bashing ah rejected

[02:08:23]   no the Piston Gap is a [@$#%] oh I hit the back of the TV son of a [@$#%] uhoh uhoh oh no oh no no no let me out no why won't you come out of there is it in the corner oh it's

[02:09:03]   getting out should be it no come on man don't make me walk four feet [@$#%] off oh you dirty rat ho cxb says what settings or firmware will help WalkSnail smearing in goggle

[02:09:36]   view moving to DJI 04 that is just something that WalkSnail does damn it that would have been a sick little double Matty flip one big one small there's unfortunately not

[02:10:00]   a whole lot you can do put it on the most recent like the the old firmware ain't going to be any better that's for sure so most recent firmware and

[02:10:14]   then if it's too much of an issue for you the 04 is is the way to go the the WalkSnail light VT TX is so fragile that it's it'll break sooner than later anyway and so there's

[02:10:31]   that I'm going to run another 260 but this time on the Newbie drone race 3.1 hummingbird crazy Ultra lightweight ridiculous rig you guys will see the the difference in video

[02:10:48]   quality here pretty quickly that is because newbie drone uses a specific oh oh I forgot how fast this is it's also there's there's more up tilt newbie drone does not use the

[02:11:03]   normal OSD chip they use a much smaller OSD chip so that they have more space on the board God it's so fast but the tradeoff is that the video quality is much worse and

[02:11:19]   I I think that the camera has rotated in the in the mount so when I hover look how off center that line is so this is going to be hard to fly because the camera is not level in this Mount

[02:11:33]   but I will try my best absolutely ridiculous power to weight ratio with this rig for hardcore Racers this is the one for freestyle and for me I don't know I I

[02:11:52]   you know analog already looks not that great this is this is a bit much in terms of video quality or lack thereof I should say I can't do any technical moves because the camera is so off you can

[02:12:09]   actually see it look at the right duct and look at the left duct there's so much more of the left duct showing and so the the camera is has rotated in the mount let me try to

[02:12:25]   kind of fix that a little bit here which will last for like one or two crashes and then it'll go right back to being crooked in some other

[02:12:36]   way that's a little bit better like I said for hardcore Racers you're either going to spend like 3 or 4 hours custom doing all this crazy Ultra lightweight [@$#%] or you

[02:12:58]   can just buy this thing for like not a lot of money but the trade-off there is going to be the image quality but I guess for racing that matters a lot less a lot of times the gates are like LED lit so

[02:13:16]   they're like super I mean you can see here like I can see this gate I can see see these Gates totally fine it's a fairly big opening but like for freestyle I want to

[02:13:27]   shoot smaller gaps than this right like and I want the video to look good too and the camera has already rotated I can already feel it like I want to shoot down under here I want to shoot

[02:13:39]   the the [@$#%] the Mazda 2 piston Gap I can't do anything with the camera rotated though because when I level The Horizon the goddamn thing slides sideways cuz the camera is not

[02:14:00]   level well there's the TV flip I don't I don't love flying this rig the camera rotating all the time and then it's just not a freestyle rig I kind of can't see where I'm going

[02:14:18]   it's a Master Class power to weight ratio that's for sure but other than that it's kind of tough kind of tough last battery friends it's going to be a 300 MH battery in the

[02:14:35]   wandering whoop thanks for hanging out hope you guys have an excellent rest of your weekend and I'm glad you're here every single one of you I really am

[02:14:51]    the the weird OSD stuff is the CAC from where it's young people what can I say young people going to young people oh my God that looks so good oh that was a big one I couldn't

[02:15:17]   decide what to do so I just sometimes I I literally can't decide what to do so I'll just fly straight and sometimes it works usually it doesn't that was one of those times

[02:15:32]   yikes no no no oh I got lucky slow it down no trying to get a really good like 30se second run in here but I'm not a 30- second run kind of guy no oh what a recovery though thank

[02:16:19]   you crash recovery get out of there no what a [@$#%] Dopey little crashthat was hot [@$#%] no woo no ohthe the giant power Loop is being a [@$#%] lately I don't I don't I

[02:17:16]   can't remember the last time I hit one of them all right well I mean I don't really consider that to be hitting it CU I crashed afterwards but that is so suck it tbec no why would I try such a weird

[02:17:33]   like I've never done it before kind of thing no the power Loop through these through these quad Gates is unbelievably difficult oh my God I almost put it in my chin

[02:17:59]   hair wo W nope I missed it no I was looking at where I wanted to go not where I was and Little Boo left the door open so now there's a little Gap in between here oh these 300 mhh batteries are the

[02:18:41]   truth all right probably like 30 more seconds of absolute tiny whoop torture no oh this coffee table is so low can you stop that there it is one last second mirror

[02:19:14]   flip come on we got to get a good one oh that was a pretty good one followed by absolute and utter failure sneak up on it let's sneak up on it oh God

[02:19:27]   no decent mirror flip 3 minutes and 51 seconds good Lord BR Bean says next time you're stuck under the couch try leaning forward a little and then y'all roll

[02:19:45]   walk it out of there might work I've never had any luck with anything other than oh I can't show you because Canon sucks a bag of donkey dicks the only thing I've had luck with is

[02:19:59]   what you see me do which is to like slam the roll to get it to like like kind of oy Wy itself out of there I don't I've tried I I at one point I thought that y'all was was the answer to

[02:20:17]   getting it out from under the couch but I've I have not I I've it was just like a onetime thing denel the turble says if I was a hacker I would hack SE fpvs betaf

[02:20:28]   flight to put send it on the craft name top did Center's osds and then denilla says Ciotti F would extremely love it and extremely hate it so much thanks for hanging out

[02:20:41]   my friends my name is Aaron Ciotti everybody calls me Ciotti thank you for hanging out I'll see you again tomorrow night at 10 o'clock and be good until

[02:20:55]   then I wish I could like actually say goodbye to you but the Canon utility [@$#%] is broken so by here's the here's the oh here's the goggle here's the goggle DVR from the

[02:21:12]   battery that I flew on those hurricane 2009 props love you bye oh by the way I ran this in 100 frames a second at high shutter speed to really show you guys how flip Booky

[02:21:30]   it can be I forgot to talk about that but that's why it's kind of stuttery all right love you by n n a get